| And I mean really blatant in its misogyny, like rape glorification, humilation, women as cattle, slavery, over the top sexist stereotypes and blatantly unlikable characters. ...Ahem, Just in case, I of course don't approve of what I listed. |
| i want to name those rapey/abusive male lead shoujo, but they are woman targetted shows, soo... i am a man, but i offended how those male MC treated woman... like holy shit... vampire knight later part after anime end can take the cake tho... |
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| I'd say a three-way tie between SAO, Guilty Crown, and NGNL. |
| @SuperRed More sexist than misogynistic and on both sides: Darling in the Franxx. The mecha's model and all of episode 8 can explain why. King's Game: Throughout the murderous game, High school of the Dead |
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| That's like 90% of hentai (and I'm being generous that 10% isn't any of those). Beyond that, I'm not going to list any non-hentai just so someone can compile a list of shows to be "offended" by. |
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CJ_Kiyoruki said: @SuperRed More sexist than misogynistic and on both sides: Darling in the Franxx. The mecha's model and all of episode 8 can explain why. King's Game: Throughout the murderous game, High school of the Dead Isn't HOTD the really stupid zombie apocalypse anime that you aren't supposed to take seriously? |
dipItFooJun 9, 2020 2:23 AM
| @SuperRed I really don't know if it was intentional, satirical, or supposed to be a joke. I hope it was a joke. |
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| Diabolik Lovers is worse than the majority of hentai in that it unironically presents rapists as alluring to a demographic of teenage girls. |
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jarring said: it's porn... it's intended to be like that... what do you expect?no one here has heard of la blue girl? it was famous in the 90s. it's got: sexcraft, ninja gangbangs, tentacle rape, sexcamps, porn studios, yuri, futanari ninja "magic"(before futanari was a thing), virgin prophecies, and more, you name it, it practically has it all. you can practically feel the misogyny vibrate off the pages. it is honestly the most perfect example of misogyny i've ever seen. |
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Bakuman has some really weird moments , I know there's even a female mangaka but... |
Kuma said: i want to name those rapey/abusive male lead shoujo, but they are woman targetted shows, soo... i am a man, but i offended how those male MC treated woman... like holy shit... vampire knight later part after anime end can take the cake tho... Pretty much this. I know a lot of women get off on this, but it still disgusts me when I watch it. Isn't that the sad truth. The most efficient way to not come across as a creep is not by not being a creep, but simply by looking good while you're being one :>. |
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| Outside of Hentai territory the answer that immediately came to mind was Violence Jack's second OVA. Like they had an entire colony of women who's only purpose was to get sexually assaulted on multiple occasions. |
| Berserk, granted idgaf bc the manga is still amazing. Just about every woman other than Casca, Schierke, and Farnesse is rape fodder. Actually nvm, Casca was rape fodder too LOL Also, lets not forget about Farnese and rapehorse... |
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| Devils Line just pulled off 'I thought silence was concent' and had like 3 rapey scenes in 2 episodes so far so I'd say that might be a candidate. |
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| Diabolik lovers, I think that was the title xD It's about sadistic vampires who treat a girl like shit, abuse her drinking her blood when and where they want, the girl wants to run away but can't, etc... It's an otome, the girl is fragile and stupid. That anime is repulsive, really. |
| Last I checked only the guys got raped and it was only 2 guys who got raped as a whole. The best friend of the MC and then that guy who was going to rape Natsuko but in the end he got raped by her instead |
dipItFooJun 9, 2020 2:48 AM
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Kerylon said: Berserk, granted idgaf bc the manga is still amazing. Just about every woman other than Casca, Schierke, and Farnesse is rape fodder. Actually nvm, Casca was rape fodder too LOL Also, lets not forget about Farnese and rapehorse... |
dipItFooJun 9, 2020 2:49 AM
| @Deknijff Definitely sure that dude tried to rape Natsuko first. But all of a sudden she reveals herself as an evil b**** and the tables turn? |
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| Kuzu no Honkai is the only one that pops into my mind |
| U can find stuff like that in many many shows but because I just finished sao abriged for the 2299292th time Asuna having a maxed out cooking skill even tho she is a front line fighter |
CJ_Kiyoruki said: yeah I said he was gonna rape her first but then she went all insane and scared him off but raped him a bit later in that lab looking place. After that he then ran off to the bathroom being afraid for his life @Deknijff Definitely sure that dude tried to rape Natsuko first. But all of a sudden she reveals herself as an evil b**** and the tables turn? |
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| Diabolik Lovers takes the cake in anime but it's tamer than some Otome games. |
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| School days? All females in this anime are utterly disgusting bitches who fall in love with utterly disgusting scumbag just because screenwriters wanted so. |
| this may be surprising to many but clannad. |
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| Gotta go with stuff like Sukisho that completely denies the existence of the female gender. I believe it was in this podcast where some female anime journalists/critics stated that they viewed "No, I'M going to make lunch for him!" harem shows like Shuffle! as more sexist and problematic than straight-up T&A fests like Ikki-Tousen. Take that however you will. |
| Definitely Aoki Honoo. Just straight up misogyny all the way, you should all watch it, it's made by the same guy who directed LoGH. |
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| Basically every hentai is sexist. How can people watch that mysogynistic shit anyways? |
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| I would agree on a lot of shoujo anime being misogynist or just heavily fetishized. Ao Haru Ride and Ookami Shoujo to Kuro Ouji come to mind. Painfully stupid female protagonists and abusive love interests that for whatever reason MCs fawn over, despite them mostly behaving like trash, then having a short likable moment or a 'backstory' that is somehow supposed to justify them being douches. School days also portrays women in an awful way, all of them are whores, psychos or incredibly stupid, or all of these at once. But then again, it's not just women in it but the whole thing that sucks ass. CJ_Kiyoruki said: More sexist than misogynistic and on both sides: Darling in the Franxx. The mecha's model and all of episode 8 can explain why. What's sexist in FranXX, like seriously? Making a joke on doggy style is sexist? Towards whom, and how? Sex is not sexist, and the anime doesn't ever really get into any stereotypes or gender roles, heck, the whole society is still largely a mystery in FranXX, and the anime has interesting characters of both genders. It's not at all sexist. I wouldn't say it's really sexist either. Sexualization itself is not really necessarily sexist, and really, the whole thing is exaggerated in all aspects, it's mostly a parody of zombie apocalypse. It's pretty mediocre, sure, and so is the characterization (of all characters, not just women there was just little effort), but I wouldn't call it sexist just because the girls have big tits lol. |
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| Idk, I thought misogyny was defined as something pretty much expressing contempt for women, not just stuff like this: SuperRed said: And I mean really blatant in its misogyny, like rape glorification, humilation, women as cattle, slavery, over the top sexist stereotypes and blatantly unlikable characters Like I can't help but ask myself, "Why the hell is blatantly unlikable characters on the list?" - really, how is having unlikable female characters a misogynyst concept? Are female characters not allowed to be written as unlikable, even though unlikable females do exist as much as unlikable males or unlikable anybody? And that's putting aside that the first four sound like subcategories for different types of S&M type stuff as soon as I hear them, rather than something necessarily rooted in gender portrayals or viewing women negatively or whatever. Like, stuff like DearS features alien slave girls on leashes and it's pretty hard for me to think that it's born out of contempt for women and not just sexualizing that concept, and I just don't see how that can reasonably considered a real problem. Not like I'm going to go around treating every woman I interact with as that sort of equivalent just because I fuckin' like that series and I would very much be annoyed by such insinuations because it's simply projecting aspects of my character onto me just because I have the audacity to fetishize stuff like that sometimes. Meh. Idk, when I scroll through threads like this on AD lately I can't help but worry people are being way too haphazard in the concepts they're considering sexist or misogynyst and yet, I have this lingering worry that if I speak up about those concerns, I'll just get dogpiled with namecalling and such because that's how a lot of it seems to play out. I don't fucking hate women, I just don't see the issue with characterizing them or portraying them in ways that aren't fucking railroaded into pre-approved portrayals or constructs. That goes for literally everybody regardless of culture or gender or age or any other variables like this so if I'm misogynyst for viewing things like that then I might as well just be an outright misanthrope because I apply that way of thinking to fuckin' everything. I mean, I don't and likely will never consider myself a misanthrope, but at least it'd be a much more fair label to hurl out in this case. But just, what's the point? I feel like I'll just get accused of being a fucking neo-nazi or something by a lot of people on this board right now if I express concerns with stuff like this being called misogynistic constructs, or like I'm pro hating women or something whenever I just see things like this and think that it's a bit of a reach to say a lot of this stuff is the direct product of a creator hating women or the series advocating it. Just fuck it all, though. The villain lady in KLK is rape-y and unlikable, so I'll extremely halfheartedly and lazily and insincerely go with that and pull my hat out. |
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xShinigami3125 said: U can find stuff like that in many many shows but because I just finished sao abriged for the 2299292th time Asuna having a maxed out cooking skill even tho she is a front line fighter her cooking skills is not from the game, but from her real life... the game is her escapism... |
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| @Imaishi I'm mainly referring to some stuff from episode 8, and I also said it was sexist on both sides, men and women. Women are frail beings who need to be protected by their big macho male partners? Zero 2 doesn't need to be protected, but that's because she doesn't entirely count as a woman? I'm pretty sure in episode 1, Dr. Franxx gropes one of the female officers and that's comedy? And I'm not referring to the doggy aspect of the mecha. As for HOTD, I sort of count it. There's not really an equal aspect of the fanservice, and although many of the women claim to have a sense of self-defense, they still cower behind main male when something big happens. |
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| Diabolik Lovers. Fetishizing Stockholm Syndrome and relishing in delight at the thought of a girl being raped, beaten, bled dry, drowned and locked in a prison is about as degrading as it gets. |
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| Death Note the most misogynistic anime I have ever seen. The women are pawns. Fanservice. No women in Death Note rise above. All the women are foolish and all the men are super geniuses. Not even Dragon Ball managed to be so bad about it. I also think I Me My Strawberry Eggs is sexist. It tries to make comments about gender that are just... ug. And if I were to pick one where the sexism is not really obvious Oremonogatari and Love Live would be good contenders. I think by comparison, stuff like Diabolik Lovers is harmless when you compare it to the likes of Oremonogatari. Diabolik Lovers is more about a preditor-prey thing they aren't human. if anything, speciesist. whatever. Diabolik Lovers is built on the premise of powerplay. I pass it off as a submissive sex fantasy. Where Oremonogatari isn't that. It is very submissive. Very demure girl. very much exactly perfect girl. |
Energetic-NovaApr 15, 2018 8:55 PM
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Imaishi said: School days also portrays women in an awful way, all of them are whores, psychos or incredibly stupid, or all of these at once. But then again, it's not just women in it but the whole thing that sucks ass. UrbanSpaceman said: School days? All females in this anime are utterly disgusting bitches who fall in love with utterly disgusting scumbag just because screenwriters wanted so. I'm glad I'm not alone in this regard. Yes, this the first example I would go with. |
S-quare22 said: Basically every hentai is sexist. How can people watch that mysogynistic shit anyways? A lot of it is funny. I don't know how people get off to it though. But they do. My husband says it is taboo factor. And then I realized, he was correct. When I think about things that turn me on, it is often because they are "bad". But since I edge towards the innocent side of that and tend to like smokers, people who kill their rapist, and characters who leave arranged marriages.... ummmmm I would say my edge factor isn't as high as a lot of people who watch a lot of hentai. To me, hentai like Black Widow are full of lawlz. And yeah I would say same with Devilman. It is so over the top, I just laugh. |
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Energetic-Nova said: Death Note the most misogynistic anime I have ever seen. The women are pawns. Fanservice. No women in Death Note rise above. All the women are foolish and all the men are super geniuses. Not even Dragon Ball managed to be so bad about it. Don't you remember Naomi Misora? Wasn't she one of the more formidable, practical characters in the show? |
Energetic-Nova said: Where Oremonogatari isn't that. It is very submissive. Very demure girl. very much exactly perfect girl. what? no it isn't.. the whole deal series is about the imperfect man who astonishing by direct approach of a girl... submasive? the last arc is about the girl want more where the male is complitely clueless... |
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