Etotama Episode 12 Discussion

DMind said:
I'm happy with the ending and conclusion and how they explained Nya-tan and Chu-tan's past :)

I never thought I'd see Chu-tan act so dere (so she has a cute adorable side to her XD), immediately I thought "it feels kinda out of character for her" and then they admitted it XD

So in the beginning when Nya-tan and Chu-tan were still friends it seems that Chu-tan was building up a lot of pressure and negative emotions but kept it deep inside and only Nya-tan started to notice. So Nya-tan decides to travel around the world solving problems before they even began (she killed a dragon serpent and a chimera...) hoping that it might take off some of the pressure from Chu-tan which kinda worked but Chu-tan was lonely without Nya-tan so she still wasn't getting better. In the end Nya-tan decides to save Chu-tan by perfecting Etotama Kagura Senguu and using it to destroy Chu-tan's etotama? (so basically kill her before she loses control) Which is why Chu-tan felt betrayed, however now it seems she found another way to save her by purifying it and without destroying it.

The fight in the beginning was intense and epic, easily one of the best battles in the entire show, though I felt like it kinda jumped into the middle of the battle (with no intro) but still it was enjoyable and I honestly have never seen CG used in anime in such a way as this (so props to them for that).

Also did that last scene after the credits hinted on a continuation to the story? :O It might be awhile if they do plan to make a season 2 but something tells me there likely won't be a season 2 considering how this anime did in this anime season (seriously this show is really underrated).

Overall I give it an 8/10, was sitting on a 7.5/10 for a while but after some consideration and with how they handled the final episode I feel it deserves an 8 :P

zetsu_shoren said:
you know what
fuck THAT ending

the show was self-aware, but that excuse won't save such a crappily chosen ending

FUCK THAT SHIT

all of a sudden, the story continues and becomes pure drama

FUCK THAT SHIT

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DlynK said:


Holy carp, you're so rude.. :o

What did you expect from this comedy-centric anime?


EDIT: Okay I'm stunned.
I just saw your list... and the notes you give to animes.
Especially slice of life.
Why the hell are you looking then rating at categories of animes that you don't like?
Do you really watch these animes?

bkim999 said:
I get what you are saying regarding Chuu-tan's past about going beserk, but that leaves me a little confuse on something. In the episode, they said that Chu-tan was genuine to a fault (somehow meaning Chuu-tan went as far as accepting her negativity), and that to serve as a example to the others she remained a strong and unyielding leader. The anime said that those two things was what caused her to "not escape the evil within her, and be trapped, not unable to move". I couldn't exactly get that. Can anyone explain?

Basically (in better detail):
I sort of get how being strong and unyielding can build stress and that Nyaa-tan was trying to help but it only made it worse (going around the world to help Chuu-tan, but it made Chuu-tan lonely).

However, genuine to fault means always being honest, sincere, open/communicative, and true to what you believe to point that your being insensitive to others because of it. Yet, Chuu-tan wasn't like insensitive to others (listening to others probs and such). Nyaa-tan said that by being upfront and direct Chuu-tan accepted the negativity that pile within her (which I don't get).

How can both of those factors (unyielding leadership and genuine to a fault) combine lead to accepting negative emotions and having them piled up? (connection to the question I said earlier)

DMind said:


I get what you're saying as well and I think this is the case: Chu-tan was genuine to a fault, she was completely honest about her feelings and won't throw away even the negative emotions and accepted them fully.

I think this was when perhaps even before she became an Eto-shin or at least when she's still new to it, it was the time during the flashback with Shaa-tan when Chu-tan was in a miko outfit (or something like a miko outfit) and she was crying to Shaa-tan saying she's weak but Shaa-tan told her that she wasn't and that her honest heart was her best feature as well as her biggest weakness.

It was after that, that Chu-tan started acting as a strong and unyielding leader. She became someone she's not for the sake of everyone else and for the peace and balance of the nation. However she was still genuine to a fault which was why the pressure and negative emotions that she still remained true to but hid away was building up within her causing her Sol/Lull to slowly become unstable.

Which made what Takeru said at the end that is supposed to be like the 'moral of the story' about "going out of character" more sense. Basically sometimes we just gotta let it all out and be true to ourselves, Chu-tan got too serious and kept it all in which resulted in this whole mess.

The ending of the show basically ended with everyone being like "you're not alone anymore" and "we will work together to bring peace and balance to the nation" unlike before when they kept piling the responsibility and work mostly to Chu-tan.

Hmm honestly I never thought about that and now I think I might give it an 8.5 cause of this :P

DesuTronic said:
Everyone is giving "extra points" for enjoyment. Isn't watching anime supposed to be all about enjoyment? Or is everyone watching anime for something else?