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| One thing Trigger has always been good at is filtering out all the generic-cookie-cutter anime fans and normies that populate the community. With just the first 2 episodes, this anime has come out swinging with bold ideas. The way the mechs are piloted is entirely unique and only something Trigger could have come up with and I love it! Yeah, its sexual. So what? Its an interesting take on the genre. I don't get why that's a negative thing. Based on their previous work, did anyone really expect this to be normal? Anyone who is legitimately turned off from this show because it has sexual themes is a real prude. |
| This show can definitely be good, they just need to start implementing an actual large scale plot or I can see this show devolve into something that it really shouldn't be |
| “I love heroes, but I don't want to be one. Do you even know what a hero is!? For example, you have some meat. Pirates will feast on the meat, but the hero will distribute it among the people! I want to eat the meat!” - Monkey D. Luffy |
| The whole premise is too simple. Too sketchy. There's have to be a catch. They force some themes, including "it's gotta be male x female pair" and "we're doing it for the adults", obviously too much. emergencybacon said: The way the mechs are piloted is entirely unique and only something Trigger could have come up with and I love it! Um, and what's so unique about it? |
shanimebib said: red-tomato said: nobody told me this was going to be a teenage love story -.- I know, right? I thought it will be more about sex education after the first episode but now they threw in teenage romance in it. wait,what? sex education!? well, it would be nice to see a hentai made by a studio such as Trigger |
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emergencybacon said: One thing Trigger has always been good at is filtering out all the generic-cookie-cutter anime fans and normies that populate the community. With just the first 2 episodes, this anime has come out swinging with bold ideas. The way the mechs are piloted is entirely unique and only something Trigger could have come up with and I love it! Yeah, its sexual. So what? Its an interesting take on the genre. I don't get why that's a negative thing. Based on their previous work, did anyone really expect this to be normal? Anyone who is legitimately turned off from this show because it has sexual themes is a real prude. Worth noting that the manga (which can be found online) makes a lot of material clear. It clears up a lot of the backstory, we get to see what zero-two really looks like: Further, we learn that before his accident, Hiro was actually the group leader, and it was his pairing with Naomi that caused him to fail. As the group leader he blames himself, and seeing as being a parasite was his sole purpose in life, he retreats into himself and runs away. He's effectively a more stable Shinji Ikari. In the scene in episode 1 immediately when the aircraft flies over, we also get to see that immediately afterwards Ichigo came out and berated him for his lack of spine, and told him to "stop being so stubborn and stay with us." It's also far more obvious that the Klaxosaurs are machines, not organic beings. |
| I made a spreadsheet to list the staff in each episodes: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1PPYvS31bM12bjSsQtY5DDiFaYQPfNXE4CSxahLjec8c I'll update it with OP and ED (and eps 2) later, but I just want to say Trigger has yet working on their own episode. Few exception like Imaishi and Sushio in episode 1, but I want to say the production mostly happens at A-1. And Trigger doesn't really have anything to say on the decision like how the piloting style were etc. They only requested with the design and submit it to the Director Atsushi Nishigori to be approved. So not much creative decision like deciding where the story goes, character's personality, etc. I think it has been said many times. This is a good in-depth explanation on the production flow of episoddle 1, and the series itself in general. https://blog.sakugabooru.com/2018/01/18/darling-in-the-franxx-introduction-and-episode-1/ Also, staff for upcoming episode has been leaked, and still produced by A-1 with Hiroyuki Imaishi providing the action storyboard: DarliFra 3 Storyboard & Episode Director: Toshifumi Akai Action Storyboard: Hiroyuki Imaishi AD: Megumi Kouno KAs: Megumi Kouno, soty, miso, Masayuki Nonaka, Hamaguchi, Isuta Meister, Isao Hayashi, Kazuhiro Miwa, Sakiko Uda, Satoshi Yamaguchi, Noriyuki Imaoka, Kyoushirou Ezawa, Shuu Sugita, Naoya Takahashi, Kazutaka Sugiyama Taishi Kawakami You may know Akai's name from the music video Shelter, where he's the director and storyboard artist. And Megumi Kouno's handling the character design and all key animation. And all the names in episode 3 cannot be underestimated either. They might produce quality thay beyond Trigger's usual tv production. |
kyuudereJan 21, 2018 8:53 PM
| The way the two pilots work together -- the natural progression for Japanese mecha anime. Hiro's definitely a bottom. |
red-tomato said: shanimebib said: I know, right? I thought it will be more about sex education after the first episode but now they threw in teenage romance in it. wait,what? sex education!? well, it would be nice to see a hentai made by a studio such as Trigger You know once they started mentioning pistil and all it became obvious where it would be heading. Why else would they use such words? Anyways, someone joked earlier about the guy being on the position of the girl but that won't work because they have different bodysuits. Only the girls' get connected to the FRANXXX system and the guys sync with their female partners and not the other way around. |
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| thot detected definitely |
-Stray said: Frodock42 said: That did not happen though. I remembered watching them both lose the mock fight. Half of your argument has not had time to occur in the show yet. Don't judge this episode on what your cynicism says this episode will lead to. Not yet at least. Well yeah, thanks for pointing out the obvious Einstein. So you wanted to make a stupid point on purpose? |
Manga says otherwise: She's more like the nagging childhood friend and would-be-girlfriend (if Zero-Two hadn't come along first). |
firemagnet said: She's more like the nagging childhood friend and would-be-girlfriend (if Zero-Two hadn't come along first). Be it drama, mecha, romcom I can name a lot of anime right now where the guy gets taken away by or falls for a girl showing up in his life right from the top of my head over someone who had always been there for him. But I refrain from mentioning them because that would be giving away spoilers. I cannot, however, recall an anime where it happens the other way around. I mean the main purpose of the new girl appearing out of nowhere to become the main interest is extremely overused in anime. I don't see that as a problem with FranXXX because it's something I have accepted to expect in anime in general. The only real interest for me right now is to see if this turns into something sociopolitical or not. I will give this anime a few more episodes as the characters don't impress me at all. Characters are the most important thing to me when I enjoy an anime. I have already stroke off half of the cast. But it's just two episodes so there's chance for improvement. I mean even this guy redeemed himself a bit by the end of the anime. |
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firemagnet said: Manga says otherwise: She's more like the nagging childhood friend and would-be-girlfriend (if Zero-Two hadn't come along first). thanks for the explanation she's kinda like annoying-childhood-friend type that sticks around the MC I dislike her, the moment she offer to be partner for hiro she's already had a partner, why would she still bother partner with hiro I feel bad for gorou, why she wouldn't partner with hiro back then |
bilun said: I feel bad for gorou, why she wouldn't partner with hiro back then Why would you feel bad for the other guy? He obviously doesn't give a damn. He's the happy-go-lucky, open-minded, nice-guy-to-the-boot in the group. |
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AdrianRubinsky said: Hey Doc, how does your mecha works? Doc: The mecha is powered by Hi-ERo particles love so we can fight the evil Penguins Kyouryuu. They are just remaking Kenzen Robo Daimidaler with a drama twist. Which is a shame, because there is good animation, Zero Two character is interesting and the OST is amazing. I will keep my expectations so low that, if it was a thermostat, it would be enough to freeze hell, because my bet is that we are heading for some cringeworthy kids drama. How does this show even have 7.9 or so rating? So many plebs overrating the most basic shows that you need to be 13 and with mental issues to enjoy this show.. But that is indeed the fan base of it... Doggy style cockpit just makes me wanna drop this crap, just one more episode...... |
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| I feel bad for them because this is far from what I call "Trigger show". The nature of the production is inherently more A-1 than Trigger, with lots of Gainax connection here and there. |
Cour_Victor said: Bawse said: How does this show even have 7.9 or so rating? So many plebs overrating the most basic shows that you need to be 13 and with mental issues to enjoy this show.. But that is indeed the fan base of it... Doggy style cockpit just makes me wanna drop this crap, just one more episode...... Trigger shows start out with 8.2 because they have a dedicated core on MAL, kind of like the Gintama fans. Nah. It's more an A-1 pics show. Just look at all these characters who are basically from other A-1 pics shows. Also, Trigger only ever produced 2 shows with score above 8. Gintama has it's shits together better. So, the comparison is moot. |
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| That was a LOT of honey O_O |
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shanimebib said: red-tomato said: wait,what? sex education!? well, it would be nice to see a hentai made by a studio such as Trigger You know once they started mentioning pistil and all it became obvious where it would be heading. Why else would they use such words? Anyways, someone joked earlier about the guy being on the position of the girl but that won't work because they have different bodysuits. Only the girls' get connected to the FRANXXX system and the guys sync with their female partners and not the other way around. so its a Trigger trademark then? xD I remember there also being an underlying theme in Kill La Kill about feminism? I haven't watched it yet so pls no spoilers it would be cool though to have the male get connected to the FRANXX system rather than the female.the male's faces would fit better with the design of the mecha imo |
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firemagnet said: Manga says otherwise: She's more like the nagging childhood friend and would-be-girlfriend (if Zero-Two hadn't come along first). Well I also saw this in first episode. |
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red-tomato said: I remember there also being an underlying theme in Kill La Kill about feminism? I haven't watched it yet so pls no spoilers A g string suit grants power in exchange of blood causing the protagonist a lot of shame from all the ogling. It's mainly tackling with a girl's feeling on puberty The fan ownership on franxx ("it's like eva and this anime and this one etc haven't you watched them bruh") is annoying and generally bad for discussion despite the anime not being subtle about anything. There is also this overanalyzing of the mock battle where people try to figure what hiro thinks and even bring up the manga, yet if you stick to the anime you are told partners must trust each other and Hiro is mainly a guy lacking in self worth so he's bound to fail since he's still in the brooding stage. Zorome is just a permutation on feelings of inadequacy, just like every other dude (the glasses cuck and the fat guy asking if he sucks). |
FondenteJan 22, 2018 4:33 AM
Alexandep said: The whole premise is too simple. Too sketchy. There's have to be a catch. They force some themes, including "it's gotta be male x female pair" and "we're doing it for the adults", obviously too much. emergencybacon said: The way the mechs are piloted is entirely unique and only something Trigger could have come up with and I love it! Um, and what's so unique about it? For me, the way the male and female pair are positioned is really interesting. It definitely has sexual themes to it. I feel that the MC and Ichigo's issue when piloting the mech could be a metaphor for ED. After being "dominated" by Zero Two, its just not the same for him and he can not focus on anything else. I thought it was all pretty obvious; I can't think of another show that has done mechs like this. |
| An interesting detail... When showing the Synchro levels on a screen (during the test of all the Mechas) the most unpaired was the fatty's one (way different than the others) |
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firemagnet said: Pit93 said: Damn, you've got some sick views. Well i'm happy to be insane by your standards, because i disagree with your entire "assessment". I'm going to agree with you, @pit93. Faederwulf calling the characters sluts because they're "used goods" according to the him and "not a virgin" is something that I find to be very disturbing. Moreover, it evinces his views on women as a whole, views that are profoundly disrespectful and demeaning. Such views imply that he sees women as something to claim and control, and that choice, particularly sexual choice, on their part is something to be feared. Further, he is then projecting his own morals onto the show and expecting the show, which was made by another culture, to hold true to them. That is one of the weakest, most selfish, and most disturbing reasons I can think of to not to watch a show, and it basically renders his entire argument invalid.  |
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| Events are predictable...I knew Hiro & Ichigo wouldn't be able to pilot that thing! LOL @ the "Doggy style cockpit pilot"...I was very facepalmed! 4/5. |
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shanimebib said: Heavens_Kairyu said: Apparently the translation would be more of "awful" or "that was terrible", with no obvious direction, so it could be towards herself or Hiro. I know CR makes mistakes here and there but "You were awful" is the more or less the correct translation here which will depend on one's interpretation. For me it seemed like she was referring herself with the "YOU" and not him. MomoSinX said: Wow, I completely missed that frame, those 3 girls look like they are 002 clones or something... (if they are girls that is xD) Obviously they are girls. There are 4 boys and 4 girls there. One cannot be careful enough of traps these days xD. |
I'LL NEVER UNDERSTAND WHY PEOPLE COMPLAIN.. LOOK AT THAT FUCKING BOOTY OMFG BEST DISTRACTION EVER NEVER FUCKING CHANGE JAPAN NEVER FUCKING CHANGE |
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| It's pretty apparent that the whole piloting is a metaphor for having sex/having a partner. I really like Ichigo, it's too bad that she was upset in the end after trying so hard. I wish Hiro gets some character development because so far he seems like your typical self-insert harem protagonist. Anyway even though the doggy style allusion makes me uncomfortable, whatever, I liked the episode and the theme of having a compatible partner. I hope that during the two-cour we will be able to explore the characters in depth. On a side note I wonder if they will bring up the topic of same sex relationships since so far we know that you can 'pilot' only with a partner of the other sex. |
DanaeJan 22, 2018 7:30 AM
AdrianRubinsky said: DuskSymphony said: Maybe she's in the pilot seat while Hiro is in the doggy position? There's something going on in her franxx that's different from all the others. Let's hope they make it happen. This could be funny. DarlingXXX is far beyond salvation with its shallow Aldnoah Zero mk2 attempt at NOT writing characters/a story (I lost hope either when dullard lead monologue'd or 'Klaxosaur') but this may at the very least redeem the anime 'girls ride doggy style to highlight ARSE' trashy fanwank. The writing is nowhere near subtle or smart enough to competently symbolise teenage sexual repression (also, how do the boys not have erect cockpits 24/7, given their view?)... but the sexually impotent "you're awful" lead getting rode by his lick-happy slutty nypmho mysterious anime waifu? Now, THAT would be entertaining. PS: At least Trigger make it look prettier. Just a pity seemingly A-1's entire Aldnoah staff were used, going on the overall 'quality'. |
AironicallyHumanJan 22, 2018 11:27 AM
 ME PILOT? THIS THING? |
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| Now that's how you should Pilot a mech. |
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| I think this anime needs 5/6 episodes rule. Tomatsu Haruka revealed that her character will start showing other sides soon. If it doesn't change my impression, I will drop it. Particularly because the three characters that were focused in these two episodes didn't sync with me. |
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| For those that think otherwise- 02(Zero Two) Never kissed any of her previous partners..She even states to Hiro that a kiss is a very special thing. The reason she kissed Hiro is because she had found her Darling which relates to the Jian Bird part of the story that is brought up at the beginning of the first episode. This all also connects with the true meaning of the Strelizia and how only Hiro was able to bring out its true form with her. Even the Lyrics to KISS of DEATH convey this |
ArcusSoulJan 22, 2018 4:12 PM
ArcusSoul said: For those that think otherwise- 02(Zero Two) never kissed any of her previous partners..She even states to Hiro that a kiss is a very special thing. The reason she kissed Hiro is because she had found her Darling which relates to the Jian Bird part of the story that is brought up at the beginning of the first episode. This all also connects with the true meaning of the Strelizia and how only Hiro was able to bring out its true form with her. Even the Lyrics to KISS of DEATH convey this That's deep, bro. That aside, how did the horny licker know that an impotent dullard is her one and only? Is this also related to birds? You have to question a girl's taste when her first reaction to a good-for-nothing, erectile dysfunctional bore is to make him her "darling", tbh. ...unless she is drawn to him as a sadist, of course. I'm all for her and friend zoned girl joining up; abusing him physically and psychologically. "You're awful" as a doggy style position performance grade would make any masochist swoon with delight. |
AironicallyHumanJan 22, 2018 11:49 AM
| This is going to be 24 episodes long, so maybe, hopefully, there's something more to its symbolism and themes than puerile sexual metaphors, fanservice that defies the laws of physics and anatomy and recycled teenage drama. What a huge meh of an episode. |
| So the whole anime is a metaphor for sex huh? Okay, I'll bite. Lets see where this goes A-1 and Trigger. Hiro and Zero Two are the bird pair. He can't pilot without her. I want to see them more the side cast isn't really doing it for me in the same way. They all seem painfully generic. Hiro does too but I hope his development is done well. |
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| beats the jaegers from pacific rim. But yeah when it comes to bonding, linking and two people needing something to become whole we've seen it upteen times even in the newish trails of cold steel or the latest xenoblade chronicles 2. neither of which delve into sexual and teenage themes whatsoever... ahem i have to say, he was a little cruel "a kiss is something special", 'i felt nothing'. subtle dude. subtle. pretty sure she was calling herself awful; she's the leader, she's the one with the highest scores and she couldn't bring his ability out whereas a horned girl whose only been around 5 minutes managed it fine. |
 This chart is pretty interesting regarding the compatibility of partners [and the FranXX initiation] because what we see on screen is kinda contradictory. (I mirrored it to see the names better.) Gorou and Ichigo are in pretty good sync but it seemed like it put a bit of seemengly painful stress on Ichigo. We didn't see them interact much yet. Miku and Zorome are also pretty neatly synced but Miku had the horniest reaction. I think Zorome is a bad influence on Miku though, with how he baited her into that test run against Ichigo and Hiro. Speaking of these two, Ichigo seemed to have had a worse time with Hiro. Kokoro and Futoshi seems to be way off sync but they seemed to have the smoothest transition. Weird. They also look like they are on super good terms with each other. Ikuno and Mitsutru are off sync as well but Ikuno seemed to be in a lot of pain, way more than Ichigo. We pretty much saw zero interaction with them so far. Mitsuru does seem to be the second biggest asshole after Zorome. I know everyone is probably supposed to be 100% synced during the end of it but it's interesting how each pair handles it. I wonder if it has something to do with each others' trust level or something. Also a random thing, I just noticed it now but everyones names are wordplay with their numbers which is cool. |
MomoSinX said: Interesting catch, this could also be used to explain how Hiro seems to be incompatible with anyone but Zero Two. In episode one's flash back, Hiro and Naomi weren't able to connect at all, and with Ichigo they connected almost instantly as shown by the display on Ichigo's helmet monitor thing. This chart is pretty interesting regarding the compatibility of partners [and the FranXX initiation] because what we see on screen is kinda contradictory. (I mirrored it to see the names better.) Gorou and Ichigo are in pretty good sync but it seemed like it put a bit of seemengly painful stress on Ichigo. We didn't see them interact much yet. Miku and Zorome are also pretty neatly synced but Miku had the horniest reaction. I think Zorome is a bad influence on Miku though, with how he baited her into that test run against Ichigo and Hiro. Speaking of these two, Ichigo seemed to have had a worse time with Hiro. Kokoro and Futoshi seems to be way off sync but they seemed to have the smoothest transition. Weird. They also look like they are on super good terms with each other. Ikuno and Mitsutru are off sync as well but Ikuno seemed to be in a lot of pain, way more than Ichigo. We pretty much saw zero interaction with them so far. Mitsuru does seem to be the second biggest asshole after Zorome. I know everyone is probably supposed to be 100% synced during the end of it but it's interesting how each pair handles it. I wonder if it has something to do with each others' trust level or something. Also a random thing, I just noticed it now but everyones names are wordplay with their numbers which is cool. And APE seems to consider him to be a 'special specimen', so that might play into the issues as well. |
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AironicallyHuman said: ArcusSoul said: For those that think otherwise- 02(Zero Two) never kissed any of her previous partners..She even states to Hiro that a kiss is a very special thing. The reason she kissed Hiro is because she had found her Darling which relates to the Jian Bird part of the story that is brought up at the beginning of the first episode. This all also connects with the true meaning of the Strelizia and how only Hiro was able to bring out its true form with her. Even the Lyrics to KISS of DEATH convey this That's deep, bro. That aside, how did the horny licker know that an impotent dullard is her one and only? Is this also related to birds? You have to question a girl's taste when her first reaction to a good-for-nothing, erectile dysfunctional bore is to make him her "darling", tbh. ...unless she is drawn to him as a sadist, of course. I'm all for her and friend zoned girl joining up; abusing him physically and psychologically. "You're awful" as a doggy style position performance grade would make any masochist swoon with delight. Zero Two stated she has always been alone her whole life twice within the first episode..she is treated like either like a monster or someone who needs to restricted which is shown when her previous partner came to collect her and with how he acts towards her.. and her previous partner/s meant nothing to her which is shown in full when he died at the end of the first ep that she didn't care.. When she met Hiro she takes interest in him because he wasn't afraid of her horn and even tried to save her because he thought she was drowning. She felt similarities to him in the sense they both felt they didn't have a place to belong. He treats her like a normal girl.. plus it is worth mentioning Hiro chose to pilot along side her at the end to fight with her This next part was posted by another person comment from Haruka Tomatsu (Zero Two's seiyuu) 本当にいろんな表情を持ってるし、心の傷や、苦しい過去を持っている女の子なんだけど、ヒロと出会って心境の変化があったり、心の波がすごく激しいので、演じてて楽しいですね。あとフランクスに乗ると人格が変わって、ヒロより男前になるので、ヒロがヒロインみたいな感じになるんですよ(笑)。 Actually, Zero-Two is a character with many different faces. She is a girl with manyscars on her heart and a painful past. However, thanks to meeting Hiro her heart starts to change and she starts opening up. Also, her personality changes when she pilots a Franxx. She is very gallant and manly so Hiro is like the heroine. |
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