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Yeah it was. It could be just new sword made by Obsidian. From preview: |
 I'm watching anime since 2012. I also play games, sometimes. Don't bother me if you want to 'become friends' or things like that. It's tiresome. I know you just want to collect some meaningless numbers. Thought: How many people sparked H. Charlotta just for blue pot? |
It is Antartarcticite's sword. When Antarc was fighting the lunarians, their grenade-like traps wrapped the sword and deformed it into its current condition. When Phos is running towards the lunarians with her new arms, you can even see that she is using it. I don't have screenshots from the anime, but here is the page in the manga when it happened: |
| The final part of Phos's pursuit in an attempt to save Antarctica is very sad. How bad we got to see Phos, all shattered in the master's arms. The Seleniuses have become really smart, who knows how they will respond to this evolution of the wicked, Phos and companions. Really great the graphics and sound, I did not think that it came to combine minerals with metal, Phos's character, is taking on a really complex and strange composition. Touching the ending. |
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| @Apsidelos Thanks for pointing this out, I didn't notice that it changed shape. @daftpunkliker some cuts from anime: |
I'm watching anime since 2012. I also play games, sometimes. Don't bother me if you want to 'become friends' or things like that. It's tiresome. I know you just want to collect some meaningless numbers. Thought: How many people sparked H. Charlotta just for blue pot? |
| It seems that the ice flows are conspiring to stop Antarticite though. So Phos has now also lost her arms as well then. The masters reaction at seeing Pho's though was priceless. Antarticite really tries to take all responsibility by herself huh. So the chord shore was where they were all born at then. The skies sure cleared at an inopportune time though. The luna's were smart to launch simultaneous attacks on both the school and at Pho's and Antarticite. Its funny how Pho's new limbs resulted in her being trapped in a gold block though. Well Pho's gained a new set of arms but Antacticite was lost defending her. The ending theme though was appropriate as it sounded like a mourning one. |
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Has anyone thought of how the insides of the main Lunarians/Tsukijin looks like either lotus root or chikuwabu? And I've said it before, but it's worth repeating: These characters have the nicest asses of any asexual character ever! And now, a screenshot that shows both. ^_^ Edit: Oh yeah, I forgot this: Phos' new arms remind me of someone... Many replies below, so spoilers to reduce length. † I'm using feminine pronouns for Phos because while I understand that the gem-people are asexual, they do seem to have gender. Phos is quite a bit more feminine than masculine, so female pronouns it is. Antarcticite is slightly more masculine, so male pronouns for him. Reply to @Zantius: Reply to @daftpunkliker: Reply to @Smudy: Reply to @Chimerared: Reply to @Inugirlz: Reply to @MistLiigh: Reply to @Ikitsune8: |
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| Antarc blocked by the ice and loses phos arms, the Lunarians show up and she taken :'( The gold really love phos, her connection must be special. |
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kyoudai said: MistLiigh said: I haven't read the manga (that might change though if we don't get a season 2 announcement soon after the season ends), but it's becoming painfully clear that one of if not the primary theme of this show is about the dangers of not being able to accept oneself and trying to forcefully change. Phos is becoming stronger, but at what cost? Based on that preview, I'm going to go with "everything that made her unique and lovable." I think along with that is the theme of "how much can you change and still remain the same?" The way the inclusions work, the mind (and soul, if they have one) is not centered in the brain but instead spread throughout the whole body. By losing and replacing parts piecemeal, Phos is slowly losing chunks of herself,† her memory, her identity, and what makes her Phos instead of a different chunk of phosphophyllite. The more she loses, the more she becomes Not-Phos. Each time she loses a part, it's like a partial lobotomy for humans. And at what point is she more Not-Phos than Phos? Can she also replace her torso and still be Phos? What about her head? I didn't watch the preview (preferring to read ahead in the manga instead), but it seems that this is a theme we're going to be faced with next week. Yes, something like the classic Ship of Theseus: if over the years you gradually replace every piece of a boat until not even a single nail is left from the original ship, is it still the same ship, and if not, then at what point did it stop being the same ship? Only here, instead of a ship it's a living thing and, more importantly, its memories. |
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| It annoys the hell out of me at how unknown and underrated this show is because it is beautiful, funny, awesome, has dark moments, has nice moments, but still no one talks about it! Whatever, at least I know of it and am enjoying the shit out of it! |
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TheFreycook said: It annoys the hell out of me at how unknown and underrated this show is because it is beautiful, funny, awesome, has dark moments, has nice moments, but still no one talks about it! Whatever, at least I know of it and am enjoying the shit out of it! Yeah, this definitely needs more people talking about it. |
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TheFreycook said: It annoys the hell out of me at how unknown and underrated this show is because it is beautiful, funny, awesome, has dark moments, has nice moments, but still no one talks about it! Whatever, at least I know of it and am enjoying the shit out of it! You took the words right out of my mouth. I couldn't agree more. Why is this "gem" (lol pun) of a show so under the radar? I just don't understand. Is it because it's filled with androgynous genderless (yet beautiful) beings, and not some beefy muscle cakes and/or curvy T&A? Is it because this kind of story doesn't scream "bad arse" or "smexy" or "lol gag comedy"? This episode was breathtaking. Things turned even more serious, and loss of Antarcticite (sp?) was heartfelt. Aww, I'm gonna miss that cool gem. Additionally, poor Phos... I think she always means well, despite her antics, but she's just too weak and fragile to be successful, even with new set of legs and arms. However, hopefully it would mean she would mature and learn from all this... and maybe even become strong too. |
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kyoudai said: † I'm using feminine pronouns for Phos because while I understand that the gem-people are asexual, they do seem to have gender. Phos is quite a bit more feminine than masculine, so female pronouns it is. Antarcticite is slightly more masculine, so male pronouns for him. Maybe it's just a weird stubborn feeling I personally have, but I can't stop seeing Phos as a boy. To me he seems like a tomboy, which in real life would make him a boyish girl. But since they're asexual, there's no point in even having the girl part. Hence my views. Antarcticite definitely comes off as a boy. Dia a girl and Bort a boy or again, an extreme tomboy. |
| What a sad episode. Poor Antarcticite... |
| didn't sensei shoot two strings of sorts toward the lunarians ?? what was that ? |
| this episode was amazing knew this show was gonna be a keeper if it kept it up, score keeps bumping up to guess more people are coming around to it now. Phos really can't catch a break with just being cursed bad luck and those around her will always end up suffering not to mention how useless she must feel after all of this without being blamed. |
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Inugirlz said: kyoudai said: † I'm using feminine pronouns for Phos because while I understand that the gem-people are asexual, they do seem to have gender. Phos is quite a bit more feminine than masculine, so female pronouns it is. Antarcticite is slightly more masculine, so male pronouns for him. Maybe it's just a weird stubborn feeling I personally have, but I can't stop seeing Phos as a boy. To me he seems like a tomboy, which in real life would make him a boyish girl. But since they're asexual, there's no point in even having the girl part. Hence my views. Antarcticite definitely comes off as a boy. Dia a girl and Bort a boy or again, an extreme tomboy. I would mostly agree with you, and I can see what you mean about Phos being a tomboy. Since they are asexual, Phos should have only one gender representation (masculine or feminine), whereas "tomboy" implies masculine behavior by a female. Maybe instead of being tomboyish, Phos's gender is more similar to that of a prepubescent child, neither feminine nor masculine, since sexual differentiation hasn't really kicked in, and has simply no gender expression at all. (Phos is the youngest one. Maybe still young enough to be their equivalent of prepubescent, if they have one.) Along the same lines, I totally see Red Beryl as otokonoko/femboy. ^_^ But whereas Phos has no or very little gender expression, Red Beryl has an abundance of it. Phos does use "boku" as the first-person pronoun, somewhat implying male or tomboy. If I had read the manga before starting the anime, I might feel very differently about all of them, but I think their voices really influenced how I see them. The hairstyle has a bit to do with it too, so perhaps next week I will see Phos as more of a boy or tomboy than I have to this point. Most of the others (Yellow, Zircon, etc.) are slightly more feminine (perhaps in catering to the audience's tastes), with the exception of Rutile, who I see — at the risk of stereotyping — as a "butch lesbian" type: flannel shirts, Doc Marten boots, very short hair, drives a Jeep. (No offense intended to lesbians or Jeep drivers.) Though again, lesbian implies that the character is female, but Rutile is asexual. And Euclase, I'm not quite sure of, but probably the most androgynous of all of them. Perhaps what it comes down to is that we have no accurate way to describe their gender expression in the absence of physical sex. We often describe gender expression as being contradictory to their sex: "tomboy", "femboy", "butch". Without sex, those terms become mostly meaningless. If they were humans with sexual differentiation, Red Beryl would be too feminine to be a girl, and Bort would be too masculine to be a boy. They're the embodiment of exaggerated femininity and masculinity, respectively. On a spectrum with feminine on the left and masculine on the right, I see them more or less in this order: Red Beryl > (feminine archetype) > Dia > Amethyst > Phos ⪆ (totally androgynous) ⪅ Euclase < Cinnabar < Jade < Antarcticite < Rutile < Sensei ≈ (masculine archetype) < Bort ⪆ : more feminine or approximately equal to ⪅ : more masculine or approximately equal to ≈ : approximately equal to In general, I'm just glad to see a wide variety of gender representation in an anime. It's unusual, but refreshing — and appreciated. Especially unusual since they aren't particularly sexualized… other than those short shorts and amazing butts. (Which I also appreciate. ^_~) hehe |
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Broken Phos was repaired with a technique Kintsugi for Japanese tea ceremony.  OtakuCalendarJapan.com for Houseki no Kuni |
VarunaBles said: Chimerared said: I'm sure it is but that doesn't take away anything from what I said, in fact it only reinforces it, there's been no growth in eight episodes of a twelve episode series. Don't get me wrong, I still like this story and I still like Phos and that's why I currently have this anime at an 8/10 but it's getting more and more frustrating. Whatever Phos changes into it better start happening soon and it better be worth it. Just know that this isn't the type of series that let's it's protagonist off just because he becomes stronger and more mature. In fact, Phos maturing is the reason why the plot begins to get darker and darker. He has to deal with the side effects. This is obvious if you've watched the preview.  This is OBVIOUS if you watch the preview. Yea, that one fucking frame out of the entire preview REALLY gave it all away there. SO OBVIOUS, it clearly all makes sense now. |
| Good to see 8 episodes in and people are still bitching about which gender people are referring to them as like its fucking triggered snowflake paradise here. Rather than just not complain about what word anyone choses to use since they have no gender so word choice doesn't matter, it always has to turn into some massive debate. IT DOESNT MATTER! THEY HAVE NO GENDER! THEY'RE NOT REAL! EITHER WORD WORKS! On a related note, good to see 8 episodes in and people are still bitching about the rating of the show too. It went from almost to 6 to almost an 8 before the show is even close to over...and that's still not good enough for you people? Are you going to keep whining until it's a 9.9? It's already rated higher than 2/3 of the shows on here and it's not good enough? Are you going to protest the MAL admins until they raise the scale to 15/10 for this show? My goodness, of course an enjoyable show this season doesn't come without the caveat of a bunch of MAL whiners ruining it in the episode threads every week. Ugh, now that that rant is over, I'm convinced after this episode that "Sensei" probably isn't 100% a good guy, and is most definitely hiding something. He's always seemed a tad sketchy, but the way the Lunarians seemed to almost worship him there seemed odd, and when he saved Phos with his tattered robes, he was rocking some serious villainy vibes. |
BlackstarFallen said: I felt nothing on what happened to Antarcticite. His fight was pretty cool though. He did his best. Phos tried to save him with all that gold on her, but she couldn't do anything. Oh well. Her uselessness putting others in danger is getting annoying. She is just a bad luck magnet who should stay away from the others so she can't cause them more pain. Ugh! I can't take this anymore with the "he", "him" and "his" And yes I know they're genderless But c'mon we a male character (Sensei), the gems looks 100% females You've made me create a topic for this https://myanimelist.net/forum/?topicid=1687221&show=0 |
LairucremNov 28, 2017 12:35 AM
| Most intense episode yet! and Phos really went all out anger and rampage because Antarcticite has fallen! Looks like Phos is the most Hybrid of them all huh...golden arms? lolz 5/5. |
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Jonesy974 said: This is OBVIOUS if you watch the preview. Yea, that one fucking frame out of the entire preview REALLY gave it all away there. SO OBVIOUS, it clearly all makes sense now. Oh? What evidence do you have to the contrary, then? Phos just lost his first real mentor and partner, it has been shown clearly that the gems hate losing partners. They're sensitive about that. Add the fact that the show is clearly heading for a darker storyline and simply showing post-winter arc Phos's face is enough to clue in people. Or at least I thought it would but that seems to not be the case lol. Perhaps I should've mentioned that "Spring" was the title of the next episode even though it's Winter right now, hinting at.........well hopefully you get what I'm saying or else I'd be even more disappointed. XD This is all besides the fact that the manga exists and I could just simply spout spoilers. |
VarunaBlesNov 28, 2017 12:58 AM
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Jonesy974 said: This is OBVIOUS if you watch the preview. Yea, that one fucking frame out of the entire preview REALLY gave it all away there. SO OBVIOUS, it clearly all makes sense now. It's 1-2 seconds, not just a frame. They also post the frame on their official Twitter, so it should be pretty damn obvious. Also another one for the next episode, taken from the episode summary page from the official site. |
| This was such a great episode. I'm glad that this show is animated in CG, because that gold is beautiful. The way that this show has slowly been slipping into this darkness is phenomenal. At one point of watching the show, I just stopped and said, this is dark. I was almost shocked since it had progressed so much from the tone of the beginning. Tragedy after tragedy happens, and yet it keeps going getting darker still. With the way the show is going, I can't see a happy ending, but I still hope one is in sight. Pho's character progression is amazing, although for the past few episodes its almost as if Cinnabar is all but forgotten. |
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| -the beginning of the dive sequence was pretty sick -phos h i t s t h e d a 🅱🅱🅱🅱🅱🅱 -the chord shore is actually pretty cool in concept -uh oh -antarcticite using her saw as a fuckin assault snowboard is pretty cool -on second thought, these new lunarian designs are pretty great, so i guess episode 6 wasn't a total garbage dump -hey it's a fez cube -ouch, seems like everyone phos becomes partners with just can't get a break, although this is the first time that any of them have actually been harvested -yeah i still don't get why bingo bongo agreed to let phos join in on the winter shift anyway So I didn't really appreciate the new designs for Lunarians until literally halfway through this episode. It wasn't until I saw the grenadier tentacles that I realized that the pretty much every Lunarian shown before episode 6 was the exact same type, and both of the new Lunarians are pretty cool. Aside from that, the episode had a pretty decent action sequence with Antarcticite using the saw as a snowboard to outmaneuver the Lunarians. The little diving sequence at the beginning was also pretty nice. I didn't really think that Phos using her new arms for the first time was too notable other than maybe the recoil damage inflicted to Phos. I didn't really enjoy it too much because it wasn't too visually spectacular, but I also didn't really hate it. It seems like from the preview that she'll use the new arms more, so I'll be waiting to see how they continue that. In any case this was a pretty average episode for the show. |
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 I didn't really enjoy it too much because it wasn't too visually spectacular Phos emerging from a lotus flower cocoon, using kintsugi to repair her fractures as she ran, and then falling to earth like a gold-winged Icarus: wasn't too visually spectacular We'll have to agree to disagree on that one. :P EDIT: Here's a clip of the big final scene: https://streamable.com/ci5xp Just for reference. :) |
sorathecrowNov 28, 2017 9:41 PM
sorathecrow said: I didn't really enjoy it too much because it wasn't too visually spectacular Phos emerging from a lotus flower cocoon, using kintsugi to repair her fractures as she ran, and then falling to earth like a gold-winged Icarus: wasn't too visually spectacular We'll have to agree to disagree on that one. :P EDIT: Here's a clip of the big final scene: https://streamable.com/ci5xp Just for reference. :) It was actually nice but not perfect because they mixed drawings in few moments which normally wouldn't be bad but in this case it just doesn't match maybe these don't look bad as static images but as animation these 2 little moments for me weren't that great. |
HakaminahNov 28, 2017 10:27 PM
I'm watching anime since 2012. I also play games, sometimes. Don't bother me if you want to 'become friends' or things like that. It's tiresome. I know you just want to collect some meaningless numbers. Thought: How many people sparked H. Charlotta just for blue pot? |
Hakaminah said: It was actually nice but not perfect because they didn't used their standard cgi all the time, it looks like they mixed drawings a little. They've mixed 2D and 3D since episode 1. In fact, close ups as a general rule are 2D in this series. Sources: https://twitter.com/Yuyucow/status/916816271290912769 https://blog.sakugabooru.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/11/delicate-senpai-ownage.jpg https://blog.sakugabooru.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/11/good-phos-that-im-pretty-sure-nishida-herself-drew.jpg Some unique motion scenes are done in 2D as well, since it would be harder to capture certain effects in 3D. Example: https://www.sakugabooru.com/post/show/41315 They even do full action segments in 2D, seamlessly switching to 3D. Here's a scene from Aculeatus destroying the Lunarians that were holding him hostage: https://www.sakugabooru.com/post/show/41314 Note how it goes from 2D Aculeatus tentacles owning 2D Lunarians, to a tentacle backhanding part of 3D Phos's face off. So I'm not sure what point you're making--the hybrid nature of the series is a strength, rather than a weakness, and one that it's demonstrated consistently. |
sorathecrow said: Hakaminah said: It was actually nice but not perfect because they didn't used their standard cgi all the time, it looks like they mixed drawings a little. -0- Edited my post later to avoid this kind of comments but I guess it's too late. I'm aware that they were doing this often but as I added it later to my comment it doesn't match the overall of that scene. It was too distracting. |
I'm watching anime since 2012. I also play games, sometimes. Don't bother me if you want to 'become friends' or things like that. It's tiresome. I know you just want to collect some meaningless numbers. Thought: How many people sparked H. Charlotta just for blue pot? |
| This was so sad... Now I got a hole to fill in my heart. |
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| I'm sick of Phos! If she would have just taken her ass to sleep like everyone else, Antar would still be alive. |
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| Best gif. Lost arms, don't care. |
LoneWolf said: @Josh makes me sad to call myself Canadian. |
John_Titor_ said: How much of the animation is CG? I've heard people state that it is fully-CG, but is it? It looks terrific, and I can't really imagine this show in the traditional 2D style. SakugaBlog did an article about this, actually! A lot of the closeups you see are full or partial 2D, and most of the facial expressions are 2D. Here's the link: https://blog.sakugabooru.com/2017/11/15/land-of-the-lustrous-houseki-no-kuni-production-notes-1-6/ |
I love the fact that he/she seems to be crying :( Never thought that I'd be this sad for a character that only appeared in two episodes. |
| Phos = gold blob/cube As soon as the sun came out.... double lunarian attack! That was pretty epic. |
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| The episode was amazing (but seeing Sensei like that was quite saddening too). |
| While the episode title was almost a giveaway, I still hoped Antarcticite could be saved at the very last moment! That hush and Phos's scream just won't leave my head!  This episode was beyond incredible. Usually it's not that easy to get me moved for a character who just appeared for an episode yet the amazing development made me feel the emotion behind it! Some Gem of the season! Bumping my rating to a 9/10! |
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| As to be expected, there have to be an attack just in the moment when they were more vulnerable, in Phos case, making that said 'change' or i rather said 'evolution' to be more of a pressing matter. I feel so sad having lost Antar. What the hell happened with Sensei and those lunarians? I thought he was completely unapproachable. The scene was so similar to that dream of his. |
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| This was actually really painful to watch. Beautiful, masterful and amazingly well done, but painful nonetheless. |
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