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Nov 19, 2017 5:20 AM

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Sorry, but we really can't be normal. Normalcy is an illusion you have when you don't really know a person. In reality, every person is unique.



That's a lie, no one truly unique, not wholly, not completely. No we all overlap, and that overlap forms normalcy. To say normalcy is a fake is to claim society doesn't exist.

There would be nothing left if you would seek overlap between all humans. Sure, there is always a lot of overlap between some specific people, that's why stuff like lolicon or NTR can be commercially viable.

Also, society does not exist. It's an illusion created by generalizing a lot of people. In reality, each of us is alone.
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Coz it hurts our pride that they aren't and we are :((( /s



"... Because when you live in this world of my closed eyes...
... Being alone is very lonely..."
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flannan said:
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That's a lie, no one truly unique, not wholly, not completely. No we all overlap, and that overlap forms normalcy. To say normalcy is a fake is to claim society doesn't exist.

There would be nothing left if you would seek overlap between all humans. Sure, there is always a lot of overlap between some specific people, that's why stuff like lolicon or NTR can be commercially viable.

Also, society does not exist. It's an illusion created by generalizing a lot of people. In reality, each of us is alone.



aren't you cheery, I am not going to bother, nihilism is for people who have given up on living.


come, you sweet hour of death
Nov 19, 2017 5:34 AM

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TheRandom said:
flannan said:

There would be nothing left if you would seek overlap between all humans. Sure, there is always a lot of overlap between some specific people, that's why stuff like lolicon or NTR can be commercially viable.

Also, society does not exist. It's an illusion created by generalizing a lot of people. In reality, each of us is alone.



aren't you cheery, I am not going to bother, nihilism is for people who have given up on living.

Nihilism has nothing to do with this. I just dislike your idea that humans should all be the same, and we aren't allowed to be different.
Not only is it unrealistic and hurtful to the people who can't conform to your expectations, it would be just plain boring.
Nov 19, 2017 5:41 AM

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romagia said:
so they can relate with her obviously xD
This

Though if I were an otaku neckbeard virgin I would probably prefer an experienced waifu over a virgin because that would mean she would be able to teach me lots of things
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@Comic_Sans oh no y arnt ppl dieing i need more ppl dieing rly gud plot avansement jus liek tokyo ghoul if erbudy dies amirite
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Nov 19, 2017 5:43 AM

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Hmm.. Since I'm one of those girls that care so much about virginity, I think it's:

For short answer: either because of cultural or religion.. Or both..

Long answer: from where I came from, it's both. Yes, I'm Christian and I still believe about sin. If a woman is not virgin anymore, it will make people think the guy ate a candy that have been licked by someone else. I'm not a native so I don't think I can truly put it in words but, let's just say it's about beliefs.

And I don't think that people don't care about the male one is a virgin or not, it's just that there's no way to proof it. Unlike when a woman is not virgin anymore, since there will be some kind of "sign".. Or that's what I heard tho..


But in anime... I don't really think much about it tho.. :/


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Well, if virginity is really that important, I must become an excellent wife.. Debating selling my virginity on the interwebs though, heard it made some good money. Sounds like a lucrative deal.

Edit: But to react to the topic. I really don't get all this stuff about a woman having to be pure for a man upon marriage. Usually the man has fucked around too so like.. That's just an ugly double standard. Why does the value of a woman get downgraded upon a dick being inserted in her while said dick keeps its value? Hmm.. Must be conservative views being at play.
Nov 19, 2017 5:47 AM

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what is 'so much'?
I do see the appeal of it in a general sense but I'm not obsessed with it like japanese idol fans.
I probably regret this post by now.
Nov 19, 2017 5:47 AM

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Well I can understand the virgin thing but what I don't understand is how they make a big deal about their first kiss, like I'd understand if it was elemtary schoolers but when adults and people in highschool get pissed off when someone takes your first kiss or drinks out of the same straw as you I think there's a problem.

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Nov 19, 2017 6:19 AM

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I'd rather my girl not being a virgin when I have sex because I'd be scared of causing her pain by breaking her hymen.
Nov 19, 2017 6:27 AM

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Pureness is very appealing in multiple reasons that not everyone can see I guess. Personally I find it appealing because pureness when broken is super cute
But I still find it funny how important pureness is for some people
like my friend who said Hecate was pure despite having raped Yuji xD

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Hmm.. Since I'm one of those girls that care so much about virginity, I think it's:

For short answer: either because of cultural or religion.. Or both..

Long answer: from where I came from, it's both. Yes, I'm Christian and I still believe about sin. If a woman is not virgin anymore, it will make people think the guy ate a candy that have been licked by someone else. I'm not a native so I don't think I can truly put it in words but, let's just say it's about beliefs.

And I don't think that people don't care about the male one is a virgin or not, it's just that there's no way to proof it. Unlike when a woman is not virgin anymore, since there will be some kind of "sign".. Or that's what I heard tho..

But in anime... I don't really think much about it tho.. :/

But the real question is here for me: why is this still only about the virginity of a woman nowadays? Why isn't that important for guys, too?

From my point of view, to speak of the more extreme cases, it's very uncomfortable being hit on by those fuckboys or someone in general, who isn't so serious about relationship and sexuality aspects questions and would have just an one-night-stand with you. Maybe it's not wrong for others, but I'm very put off by that. ^^"

For me, as a personal-not religious reason, faithfulness and loyality are very important to me. IR as well as in fictional romances. I just dislike characters, who treat others as their fuck / sexual object. At least for major characters. I'm very chill with minors, who aren't involved in any important romances there. XD

Tho, what I have written before, just to avoid possible misunderstandings:
It's absolutely alright, if there is an ex-partner or something with a really nice story behind them, but I speak of plots like "wanted to sleep around, but falls in love with protagonist, of all possible characters" and alike, which have kind of a bitter after taste. They are just not enjoyable as a romance to me. ^^"
Tho I guess, the Japanese seem to be more conservative in general, if even one ex-partner is too much.


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Pureness is very appealing in multiple reasons that not everyone can see I guess. Personally I find it appealing because pureness when broken is super cute

Naah, I think that's very cringey, if a character is older than 6,7 and still asks: how is it done? XD
Virginity and being unbelievable dumb to live shouldn't go hand in hand. xD (okay, regarding the time period, you know, but definitely not for 21th century characters)
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Bwoah: your ideal girl should not be virin.
If she is your ideal girl and you got togeother then she shoud not be a virgin reason --->you.
But if you coudn't get her then that is your fault in the first place, and let's face it more than one man will go for the same girl, because they think of her as an ideal girl, and if that is the case it's the man's job to make sure that he get's the girl, don't wait for miracles ... Flipping skirt, panty-shot, boob grabbing acccitents are limited to the 2D plain, they won't happen, don't wait for it. (Or for a sudden 20 minutes of Best Girl emotional supportive speech from maid, because that will not happen either.


huh ...
And don't get me started on love doesn't know limits, and hughe age differences can happen between the participants (not: this is only one aspect that I tought of right now, there are others... a lot), and if the girl is older then why should she wait for you that long? Doesn't she have the freedom to try dating ?? (talking about a case like:girl is ~35 boy is 20-25) If you think about the this example alone then: the age of adulthood in my country is 18. so when the girl is 18 the boy is at maximum 8. That's a NO-NO . so by the time the boy is 18 the girl is already 28. Yeah sure she can wait, but how the hell did she know that she has to wait another 10-15 years? Life is not a fairy tale, you have to live it.
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To be the first and be sure maybe she's not a girl who slept with a lot of men. Each people got their jugement about how many a girl slept with men. Some men don care how many and other yes or they hav le a max they can accept.
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flannan said:
Isterio said:
Do you really want to discuss the psychological reasoning behind this phenomenon or you just want to troll?

Psychological reasoning, please. Trolling is boring.

Isterio said:
I could go into Freud and Nietsche territory and explain their pov on the matter, but I personally don´t agree with all their assesments and they were both somewhat insane.

Freud isn't very popular with modern psychologists. Apparently, he was a perverted old man who pulled his theories out of thin air.
I a not actually familiar with Nietsche's works.


Freud is more outdated than bad. He also had a very narrow definitive mindset on the world he pretended to exclude himself of. Also his approach towards the psychology between family members leaves the suspicion that he was indulging in his incest fetish rather than actually analyzing interpersonal relationships.

But back to the topic at hand.

Why do people care about a girl's virginity so much?

First of all, this demand is an emotioanlly motivated response not a rational one.
It´s based on instinct and therefore biology.

Non virginal girls can have several attractive attributes towards a sexual relationship without the intention to have kids.

The girl is more experienced, therefore probably can enjoy sex more and make the experience more enjoyable for the partner in question.
More experience means also that she knows potentially better how to stimulate her partner more effectively. aka she´s good fuck.

Hence why "sluts" are prefered for casual relationships without commitment.

However from a biological pov males want to spread their genes as succesful as possible. Females have a guarantee that their genes are theirs when they birth a child. Males don´t have such a guarantee.

A "virgin" guarantees that it´s their genes that get inherited into the next generation. So far for the biological reasoning behind this primitive instinctive behaviour. I put virgin in " " because there is no foolproof guarantee that said girl is a virgin even if her hymen is intact. You can actually pay pricey operations to stich it up nowadays.

Now to the psychological results of this predetemined behaviour: Having your genes continue is a priviliege within the animal kingdom, not a guarantee. Many animals even use underhanded tactics to achieve said goal and all use violence. Meaning that being the first to penetrate a virgin is assosiated at least subconsciously with privilege. Despite having no rational reasoning in modern society. This ofc gets enhanced through cultural upbringing, but all in the end stems from the same source.
Another potential motivation is privilege in association with quality & power. Only the powerful (regardless of form) get to have privileges in form of the best quality goods, in the most basic sense food and mating partners.

Now Otaku are within the hierarchy of society the bottom feeders.
If they could get real girls , they wouldn´t resort to 2D girls. Mind you this only extends to those who do have a sexdrive and not asexual Otaku. I have not enoguh knowledge on the topic, but they´re so far and few between that they are a small minority, despite what anyone wants to sell as truth. Anyone who jerked off to 2D girls is attracted to the female form, because the 2D girls are nothing foreign but an idealized version of actual girls that sometimes can´t exist.

And no, what they describe as "preference" is a consequence of inabilities. The inability to impress girls, or even just talk to them or fellow human beings in general.
In a sense those are privileges that they don´t posses.
But within the confines of their own mind they can blend out reality. We all do this. This isn´t meant as an insult. Avoiding uncomfortable parts of reality is a protective mechanism. Imagine someone would constantly grief the death of their loved ones. Said person would be driven to suicide within a year.
But back on topic.

Because Otaku are denied many of societies privileges they create an illusion within their mind that enables them privileges others don´t have as a substitute. Said illusion is non-confrontational because no competition exists aside from other Otaku who try to avoid conflict too aside from verbal and even then, mostly only behind the veil of anonymity.

A simple example of said concept from daily life would be: Shiro get´s praised for X talent. Kuro doesn´t have X talent, get´s no praise and is jealous, but he tells himself that he has Y talent so it´s fine.

To amplify the quality of said privilege the waifu is preferably a virgin, so that in the individual fantasy of said Otaku he can be the one to deflower said idealized waifu. She´s already too perfect to be real, which is a privilege in itself, but if she´s also a virgin he gets a second layer of privilege.

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Maneki-Mew said:
Meira_Eve said:
Hmm.. Since I'm one of those girls that care so much about virginity, I think it's:

For short answer: either because of cultural or religion.. Or both..

Long answer: from where I came from, it's both. Yes, I'm Christian and I still believe about sin. If a woman is not virgin anymore, it will make people think the guy ate a candy that have been licked by someone else. I'm not a native so I don't think I can truly put it in words but, let's just say it's about beliefs.

And I don't think that people don't care about the male one is a virgin or not, it's just that there's no way to proof it. Unlike when a woman is not virgin anymore, since there will be some kind of "sign".. Or that's what I heard tho..

But in anime... I don't really think much about it tho.. :/

But the real question is here for me: why is this still only about the virginity of a woman nowadays? Why isn't that important for guys, too?

From my point of view, to speak of the more extreme cases, it's very uncomfortable being hit on by those fuckboys or someone in general, who isn't so serious about relationship and sexuality aspects questions and would have just an one-night-stand with you. Maybe it's not wrong for others, but I'm very put off by that. ^^"

For me, as a personal-not religious reason, faithfulness and loyality are very important to me. IR as well as in fictional romances. I just dislike characters, who treat others as their fuck / sexual object. At least for major characters. I'm very chill with minors, who aren't involved in any important romances there. XD

Tho, what I have written before, just to avoid possible misunderstandings:
It's absolutely alright, if there is an ex-partner or something with a really nice story behind them, but I speak of plots like "wanted to sleep around, but falls in love with protagonist, of all possible characters" and alike, which have kind of a bitter after taste. They are just not enjoyable as a romance to me. ^^"
Tho I guess, the Japanese seem to be more conservative in general, if even one ex-partner is too much.




Let's see.. To be honest, I'm curious about that too.. But i guess it doesn't really matter for guys because unlike girls their virginity is not some kind of special prize...? I mean, IRL, no one can really tell whether a guy is a virgin or not... I guess.. Lol XD


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@Meira_Eve If you wanna think of your hymen as "a candy" and "a special prize for men", then be my guest. The original sin, wiminz are evil, yada yada.

And no, unless the guy is a brute or brings a doc to check, there's not necessarily any "sign".
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Isterio said:
flannan said:

Psychological reasoning, please. Trolling is boring.


Freud isn't very popular with modern psychologists. Apparently, he was a perverted old man who pulled his theories out of thin air.
I a not actually familiar with Nietsche's works.


Freud is more outdated than bad. He also had a very narrow definitive mindset on the world he pretended to exclude himself of. Also his approach towards the psychology between family members leaves the suspicion that he was indulging in his incest fetish rather than actually analyzing interpersonal relationships.

But back to the topic at hand.

Why do people care about a girl's virginity so much?

First of all, this demand is an emotioanlly motivated response not a rational one.
It´s based on instinct and therefore biology.

Non virginal girls can have several attractive attributes towards a sexual relationship without the intention to have kids.

The girl is more experienced, therefore probably can enjoy sex more and make the experience more enjoyable for the partner in question.
More experience means also that she knows potentially better how to stimulate her partner more effectively. aka she´s good fuck.

Hence why "sluts" are prefered for casual relationships without commitment.

However from a biological pov males want to spread their genes as succesful as possible. Females have a guarantee that their genes are theirs when they birth a child. Males don´t have such a guarantee.

A "virgin" guarantees that it´s their genes that get inherited into the next generation. So far for the biological reasoning behind this primitive instinctive behaviour. I put virgin in " " because there is no foolproof guarantee that said girl is a virgin even if her hymen is intact. You can actually pay pricey operations to stich it up nowadays.

Now to the psychological results of this predetemined behaviour: Having your genes continue is a priviliege within the animal kingdom, not a guarantee. Many animals even use underhanded tactics to achieve said goal and all use violence. Meaning that being the first to penetrate a virgin is assosiated at least subconsciously with privilege. Despite having no rational reasoning in modern society. This ofc gets enhanced through cultural upbringing, but all in the end stems from the same source.
Another potential motivation is privilege in association with quality & power. Only the powerful (regardless of form) get to have privileges in form of the best quality goods, in the most basic sense food and mating partners.

Now Otaku are within the hierarchy of society the bottom feeders.
If they could get real girls , they wouldn´t resort to 2D girls. Mind you this only extends to those who do have a sexdrive and not asexual Otaku. I have not enoguh knowledge on the topic, but they´re so far and few between that they are a small minority, despite what anyone wants to sell as truth. Anyone who jerked off to 2D girls is attracted to the female form, because the 2D girls are nothing foreign but an idealized version of actual girls that sometimes can´t exist.

And no, what they describe as "preference" is a consequence of inabilities. The inability to impress girls, or even just talk to them or fellow human beings in general.
In a sense those are privileges that they don´t posses.
But within the confines of their own mind they can blend out reality. We all do this. This isn´t meant as an insult. Avoiding uncomfortable parts of reality is a protective mechanism. Imagine someone would constantly grief the death of their loved ones. Said person would be driven to suicide within a year.
But back on topic.

Because Otaku are denied many of societies privileges they create an illusion within their mind that enables them privileges others don´t have as a substitute. Said illusion is non-confrontational because no competition exists aside from other Otaku who try to avoid conflict too aside from verbal and even then, mostly only behind the veil of anonymity.

A simple example of said concept from daily life would be: Shiro get´s praised for X talent. Kuro doesn´t have X talent, get´s no praise and is jealous, but he tells himself that he has Y talent so it´s fine.

To amplify the quality of said privilege the waifu is preferably a virgin, so that in the individual fantasy of said Otaku he can be the one to deflower said idealized waifu. She´s already too perfect to be real, which is a privilege in itself, but if she´s also a virgin he gets a second layer of privilege.


Well What do you think about that kind of peple?

I really like them to be fair, but hey that is just my opinion.
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Its not because they are "small"? if they already "taste" a "better" one and they will leave the men someday.
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Well What do you think about that kind of peple?

I really like them to be fair, but hey that is just my opinion.


I don´t care about them. I think it´s sad if they can´t change it due to biological detriments, but those are handicapped people. I laugh about those that don´t want to change due to comfort.
The world has far bigger far worse problems. Social anxciety is incompareable to not having food with a functional sexdrive and peoples skillz.

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Its not because they are "small"? if they already "taste" a "better" one and they will leave the men someday.


While this is true not all former virgins like to eat "Pizza" all the time.
Cook something new, use new ingredients and eventually you´ll not be too hungry anymore and only occasionally eat at home while getting appetite from elsewhere. Or you get a new Taco to eat fishsauce out of.
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Isterio said:
Bourmegar said:


Well What do you think about that kind of peple?

I really like them to be fair, but hey that is just my opinion.


I don´t care about them. I think it´s sad if they can´t change it due to biological detriments, but those are handicapped people. I laugh about those that don´t want to change due to comfort and further I don´t care.
The world has far bigger far worse problems. Social anxciety is incompareable to not having food with a functional sexdrive and peoples skillz.

Well I would just say "get a life" towards to those who don't want to change and I will laugh when they go incel.

I am also a person who has an Handicap (light autism not in DNA).

And yh it is sad to see good (or at least compitent) ppl not being able to provide for their loved ones dezpite giving it their all...
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Well I would just say "get a life" towards to those who don't want to change and I will laugh when they go incel.

I am also a person who has an Handicap (light autism not in DNA).

And yh it is sad to see good (or at least compitent) ppl not being able to provide for their loved ones dezpite giving it their all...


My fathers best friend has a retarded, crippled son. I know him for over 20 years and he remained the same since then. In a sense living alone to him is the only privilege he´ll ever have considering his condition. For him I feel sad.

As far as the autistic spectrum goes I can´t tell. I knew dyslexial people who were better with words than I was Satoshi Taijiri and several other autists are far more succesful than I´ll ever be.

I don´t feel sorry for the minor ones because they can and often do something about it and even profit. Unlike basement Otaku who jerk off too 2d porn and buy body pillows. A concept so foreign to me that I´m either thoroughly amused or disgusted when I encounter it.
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According to old gender roles, women are supposed to stick to one man and she is viewed as "used up" like a condom or another object once her virginity is lost. For men it's the other way around, you increase you status as a man by attracting and having sex with multiple women. Also, men easily get inferiority complex if they are less experienced than women.

It's always been a universal thing though, certainly not unique to Japan.
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Ah. You are free to like what you want and want what you want. I really enjoyed following this all the way to the final conclusion. The conclusion that the lowest of the low basement otaku's idealized woman fantasy mentality must be changed, for some inexplicable reason. Makes me think some egos are rather fragile to be scorned by the lowest of the low.
Reminds me of that old joke about someone dreaming bout me and apologizing to me in real life. Forgot how it went unfortunately.
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Well, if virginity is really that important, I must become an excellent wife.. Debating selling my virginity on the interwebs though, heard it made some good money. Sounds like a lucrative deal.

Edit: But to react to the topic. I really don't get all this stuff about a woman having to be pure for a man upon marriage. Usually the man has fucked around too so like.. That's just an ugly double standard. Why does the value of a woman get downgraded upon a dick being inserted in her while said dick keeps its value? Hmm.. Must be conservative views being at play.
Well it's like you said.

You can make a living playing video games badly on streaming websites if you've got tits.

Not so much if you don't.

As for the thread I think that once we remove all the things society has indoctrinated us with and boil things down to animal instincts it's probably because we like the smell of blood.
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Is a "possession" sort of thing. Virginity means she is "unclaimed". Taking her virginity is akin to "claiming" her as yours.

It's similar to how in certain animal species the males fight each other for the right to mate with all the females.

Most males naturaly strive to be the winners. That a girl is not a virgin means another male already "won", and then the drive to win is lost.

At least, that's my interpretation behind the eternal virginity craze.
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Being "Pure" is apparently very important to Japs...

Non-Virgin females are automatically treated as whores, bitches, and dirty.

This is very similar to the old Christian traditionalist mindset too...

There's a reason why a bride wears white.

White symbolizes purity and virginity.

SOME Christians are still obsessed over this actually...that's why "fornication" is viewed as a "sin" a very immoral sin actually.

Funny enough, they don't care so much if a male is a virgin...but a female MUST be a virgin until marriage.

It's a control thing.

And just goes to show how backwards religion and "traditional thinking" truly is.
Well, adultery is a sin and getting divorced is a sin so it would be impossible for a male to relieve himself of his virginity without causing a girl to commit a sin.
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Maneki-Mew said:
Meira_Eve said:
Hmm.. Since I'm one of those girls that care so much about virginity, I think it's:

For short answer: either because of cultural or religion.. Or both..

Long answer: from where I came from, it's both. Yes, I'm Christian and I still believe about sin. If a woman is not virgin anymore, it will make people think the guy ate a candy that have been licked by someone else. I'm not a native so I don't think I can truly put it in words but, let's just say it's about beliefs.

And I don't think that people don't care about the male one is a virgin or not, it's just that there's no way to proof it. Unlike when a woman is not virgin anymore, since there will be some kind of "sign".. Or that's what I heard tho..

But in anime... I don't really think much about it tho.. :/

But the real question is here for me: why is this still only about the virginity of a woman nowadays? Why isn't that important for guys, too?

Because a key that opens any lock is a Master Key but a lock that opens to any key is an useless lock.
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Because a key that opens any lock is a Master Key but a lock that opens to any key is an useless lock.

Eww, I don't want keys, which were in a dozen of locks. :o

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flannan said:
TheRandom said:



aren't you cheery, I am not going to bother, nihilism is for people who have given up on living.

Nihilism has nothing to do with this. I just dislike your idea that humans should all be the same, and we aren't allowed to be different.
Not only is it unrealistic and hurtful to the people who can't conform to your expectations, it would be just plain boring.
What a load of bull, it's normal to not kill people for absolutely no reason, which means normalcy exists, at the very least, to some extent, if you think what he said doesn't fall under non-normalcy that's fine but to deny its existence is just silly.
(And sometimes it's also used as a synonym for "decent" or "moral")
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romagia said:
so they can relate with her obviously xD
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Cacchione said:
romagia said:
so they can relate with her obviously xD
If this site had an upvote feature, by God would I use it on this comment.
Might be more of a "I wanna be the best she's ever had" thing, especially with those japanese micropenises, that must cause quite some confidence issues.
Japan's also more of a "pure" society in general (from what I've heard), with holding hands being considered very intimate till pretty recently and kissing being considered "going to fast" when done after 1-2 months of dating.
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It's just a fetish I guess. I personally prefer someone sexually experienced and more forward and aggressive. Purity isn't really my thing, but I guess that's all there is to it you know? It's just some peoples thing.

There's also that I don't really think the topic of sex and human sexuality should be as shunned and taboo as it is. But in the minds of some, if you've had sex you've been "ruined." Or something, idk. So I guess it would also depend on your ideas regarding sex.

But yea, don't worry about it too much. It's just a kink. There are tons of MUCH weirder kinks out there.
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Well, I am not interested in Virgins to the point of liking NTR in this community. Which I guess is a no-no and makes me a monster. Look at the fans on our own website and how much they hate a dramatic premise like NTR. lol. They suck.

Yet they watch Harems.

-_-

I think mostly the yaoi fanbase indulges in the most romance and porn containing non-virgins and people who have had more than one romance in their lives. Maybe it made me a healthier fan somehow. Some stories may require cute virgins and cherry boys- but most of the time, I cant help but think....this story would be better with someone who knew what they were doing.
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It's a girl's purity, if it's taken away, it is like dirtying a clean towel, especially if it's by someone else, if it's by someone who himself is dirty. It is a girl's innocence, it's something you want to protect. For some people even they don't want to take away the virginity of their own girlfriends; that's how serious it is. Especially if you're loyal and you really care about a girl, you wouldn't want that taken away from her. Some guys don't really care about that, and it pisses off the guys who do, sometimes.
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It's not only a cultural or religious influence but also a biological one.
From what I know, a man can have sex with as many women as he wants, it's not like he'll get pregnant. A woman though gets to be pregnant for around 9 months.
I'm sure you know where I'm aiming here, right @flannan?

So it's a normal reaction to want your partner to not have been with other men.
What you're against (or what you should be against) is a violent or denigrating response towards "impurity".
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Fantasies are nice because they're not real, is that something I have to tell you now? A harem wouldn't work in real life. NTR wouldn't work at a fundamental level either. Mind break or even rape don't work the same way they work in doujinshi/hentai either.




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Energetic-Nova said:
Well, I am not interested in Virgins to the point of liking NTR in this community. Which I guess is a no-no and makes me a monster. Look at the fans on our own website and how much they hate a dramatic premise like NTR. lol. They suck.

Yet they watch Harems.

-_-

I think mostly the yaoi fanbase indulges in the most romance and porn containing non-virgins and people who have had more than one romance in their lives. Maybe it made me a healthier fan somehow. Some stories may require cute virgins and cherry boys- but most of the time, I cant help but think....this story would be better with someone who knew what they were doing.

Well if we had that then it wouldn't be a romcom about awkwardness but more of a romance which is kinda a rarity in Anime it seems.

And harem is just a romcom x5 with only best girl winning and yet there is only 1 show that went NTR with it but that show ids Schooldays.......

I don't care if the girl in a series is a virgin or not, I just don't really get why some ppl Demand that but hey this thread gave some good answers to my Question.
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Energetic-Nova said:
Well, I am not interested in Virgins to the point of liking NTR in this community. Which I guess is a no-no and makes me a monster. Look at the fans on our own website and how much they hate a dramatic premise like NTR. lol. They suck.

Yet they watch Harems.

-_-

I think mostly the yaoi fanbase indulges in the most romance and porn containing non-virgins and people who have had more than one romance in their lives. Maybe it made me a healthier fan somehow. Some stories may require cute virgins and cherry boys- but most of the time, I cant help but think....this story would be better with someone who knew what they were doing.

Well if we had that then it wouldn't be a romcom about awkwardness but more of a romance which is kinda a rarity in Anime it seems.

And harem is just a romcom x5 with only best girl winning and yet there is only 1 show that went NTR with it but that show ids Schooldays.......

I don't care if the girl in a series is a virgin or not, I just don't really get why some ppl Demand that but hey this thread gave some good answers to my Question.


I like School Days though. :/

*sigh*

Could it be done better? Sure sure. But.... Yeah I admit it, I like really dramatic relationships not caused by some girl being tsundere but caused by other things. Like... someone being a sluuuut. Or school rumors. Or number of other things.
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Because they idolize purity for historical/cultural/religious reasons and also want to believe they're the girl's first and last partner, etc

I think it's ridiculously unreasonable and constrictive for the girls to try to force some standard like that upon them. Like what if their first relationship turns out poorly and they break up? Do they have to be single for the rest of their lives then? That's fucking stupid

I seriously couldn't care less if a girl is a virgin or not. I mean if she's literally sleeping around with several guys at the same time that might be a problem with her character but other than that no


I agree with this statement in its entirety
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[Massive SPOILER for Revolutionary Girl Utena]

If anyone is questioning what OP is talking about, i'll just quote some replies from the discussion of episode 33 of Utena, when you-kwon-what happens. Maybe it'll help

Not necessarily saying that those guys still think like that (i hope not), this is from years ago.

@Clebardman felt like quoting you

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It's not only a cultural or religious influence but also a biological one.
From what I know, a man can have sex with as many women as he wants, it's not like he'll get pregnant. A woman though gets to be pregnant for around 9 months.
I'm sure you know where I'm aiming here, right @flannan?

So it's a normal reaction to want your partner to not have been with other men.
What you're against (or what you should be against) is a violent or denigrating response towards "impurity".
@Energetic-Nova
Fantasies are nice because they're not real, is that something I have to tell you now? A harem wouldn't work in real life. NTR wouldn't work at a fundamental level either. Mind break or even rape don't work the same way they work in doujinshi/hentai either.


All NTR is:
"To be taken away by sleeping with"
It is just cheating. Or girlfriend/boyfriend stealing. NOTHING ELSE. And not for nothing but... doesn't that happen more in real life than someone having a poly-everyone likes this guy situation? Usually.... some people end up screwing around... and then... there is drama. which is great.

I like good stories that are dramatic. it would make for a great dramatic romance.

And Mind break is found in some of the best series in anime. Neon Genesis Evangelion being one.
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HaXXspetten said:
Because they idolize purity for historical/cultural/religious reasons and also want to believe they're the girl's first and last partner, etc

I think it's ridiculously unreasonable and constrictive for the girls to try to force some standard like that upon them. Like what if their first relationship turns out poorly and they break up? Do they have to be single for the rest of their lives then? That's fucking stupid

I seriously couldn't care less if a girl is a virgin or not. I mean if she's literally sleeping around with several guys at the same time that might be a problem with her character but other than that no

Or maybe she is in an open Relationship with a guy, you know that kind of Relationship where both lovers allow each other to have sex with others as long as it's just sex.

I really do Agree with you here.
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[Massive SPOILER for Revolutionary Girl Utena]

If anyone is questioning what OP is talking about, i'll just quote some replys from the discussion of episode 33 of Utena, when you-kwon-what happens. Maybe it'll help

Not necessarily saying that those guys still think like that (i hope not), this is from years ago.

@Clebardman felt like quoting you



Yup...

I admit though, I do like Manga Shinji more.... because
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@iscum I remember reading that shit. TBH it's pretty symptomatic of the anime community, wich is probably the cringiest concentration of twenty-something yo Elliot Rodgers virgin fanboys there is. Sadly the whole community is in denial about this, and a good portion of those who aren't assholes still prefer to turn a blind eye on it and get ultra-triggered when the subject is brought up, feeling attacked somehow.

You can also credit that mentality for turning the hilarious 80's perverted ecchi comedies into some lame-ass prudish battle harem wish-fulfillment shlock, and that's a shame, eeeew.
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iscum said:
[Massive SPOILER for Revolutionary Girl Utena]

If anyone is questioning what OP is talking about, i'll just quote some replys from the discussion of episode 33 of Utena, when you-kwon-what happens. Maybe it'll help

Not necessarily saying that those guys still think like that (i hope not), this is from years ago.

@Clebardman felt like quoting you



Yup...

I admit though, I do like Manga Shinji more.... because


Dunno, i've never been mad at Shinji for wanking. If anything i felt really uncomfortable, and then sad for him. It was painful to watch. He was at his lowest, and felt even worse after doing it
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Energetic-Nova said:


Yup...

I admit though, I do like Manga Shinji more.... because


Dunno, i've never been mad at Shinji for wanking. If anything i felt really uncomfortable, and then sad for him. It was painful to watch. He was at his lowest, and felt even worse after doing it


>.>

Another point in the direction of manga Shinji. His lowest points were:
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Some chick sold her virginity for 3 Million dollars. Wish I could be set for life by spreading my legs once but nah i gotta do 6-8 years of school plus payoff dat Loan Debt
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