A mayoral candidate for the far-right, anti-immigrant NPD party promised to get rid of Arabic numerals if elected, German media reported Friday. Otfried Best, who is hoping to become mayor of Völklingen, near the French border, was asked by a member of Die Partei, a satirical party, during a debate earlier this week what he thought of Arabic numerals used in the town, Stern magazine reported. “Mr. Best … I find it alarming that in Völklingen many house numbers are displayed in Arabic numerals. How would you like to take action against this creeping foreigner infiltration?” asked the Die Partei politician. The audience cheered and laughed, but Stern reported that Best gave a serious answer: “You just wait until I am mayor. I will change that. Then there will be normal numbers.” http://www.politico.eu/article/far-right-german-candidate-promises-to-get-rid-of-arabic-numerals/ Does anyone from the Germanic Countries Theedish Lands know Germanic Theedish Runic Numbers? |
| Want to completely rid yourself of foreign influence? Revert to pre-neolithic Germany, considering Europe received farming from Sumerians/middle easterners. Idiotic xenophobia at its best. |
| Bet more than 50% of the world don't know that numerals used in Western countries are Arabic numbers and the numbers we Arabs use are Indian numbers lol. |
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| Roman numerals are more A E S T H E T I C anyway. MAL staff needs to change all numbers on the site to Roman numerals NOW REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE |
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spuukiebuugi said: They're actually originating form India and those have become universally accepted. There's a such thing as Arabic numerals? I thought written numerals (not spoken) were almost universal. PO1SON said: The Arabs just copied them and changed their Designs a bit.Bet more than 50% of the world don't know that numerals used in Western countries are Arabic numbers and the numbers we Arabs use are Indian numbers lol. Lost_Viking said: How are a Bunch of plain vanilla Letters more æsthetic? Roman numerals are more A E S T H E T I C anyway. MAL staff needs to change all numbers on the site to Roman numerals NOW NudeBear said: If Farming doesn't count, then mere Existing wouldn't count, since at one Point or other, we originated from elsewhere. Oh and according to some Legends, we're one of the Descendants of Ashkenaz, a Descendant of Noah.Want to completely rid yourself of foreign influence? Revert to pre-neolithic Germany, considering Europe received farming from Sumerians/middle easterners. I find that Proposal as ridiculous as you, however, I don't mind or even welcome when alternative Number Systems are also getting taught in School, especially when it's about the actual, native Culture. The Study of Runes should become a Part of Classes in Germanic Countries. |
| Can't wait to do equations with roman numerals. |
| Please define normal numbers? Then again the question was asked by a satirical party which probably led to his satirical answer. |
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| Nigga I don't want to learn no Runic numbers |
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I SWEAR TO ALLAH ITS ONLY THESE LITTLE SUBSET OF NUMBERS THAT HAVE BEEN RADICALIZED TAKING THE SQUARE IS NOT A MATH OF PEACE!!!!!!! OUTOUTOUT!!! |
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pretty sure current arabic numbers is inspired from persia which originated from india...  |
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| This is retarded don't vote for this person maths important |
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| Lol, it seems Europe wants the dark ages back if these people get elected. |
| Doesn't the al in alcohol, algebra and so on come from islam. Get rid. |
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JonyJC said: Pfft, Roman Numbers. These work as well:Can't wait to do equations with roman numerals.  And they are even much more logical than the current Numerals. Comic_Sans said: Go learn Roman Numbers, then, since you're half-French.Nigga I don't want to learn no Runic numbers Kuma said: That's a more accurate Depiction. In General, the Numbers are either referred to as Arabic Numerals or Hindu-Arabic Numerals. pretty sure current arabic numbers is inspired from persia which originated from india... hazerddex said: It's not like such a Proposal would even pass, even if he were to be elected.This is retarded don't vote for this person maths important |
PO1SON said: Bet more than 50% of the world don't know that numerals used in Western countries are Arabic numbers and the numbers we Arabs use are Indian numbers lol. While I do know that most of the people use Arabic numbers, but do you really use Indian numbers? Lol I thought it was only used in our country Tho in our country, Indian numbers are taught in Hindi schools only. In English schools, we also use Arabic numbers. |
| but they re indian tho so np I guess swirlydragon said: While I do know that most of the people use Arabic numbers, but do you really use Indian numbers? Lol I thought it was only used in our country "Arabic" numerals are Hindu numerals, they are called Arabic because they were introduced to Europe by Arabs. |
Noboru said: I'm terrible at Roman numbers lolGo learn Roman Numbers, then, since you're half-French. |
Nico- said: Conversations with people pinging/quoting me to argue about some old post I wrote years ago will not be entertained@Comic_Sans oh no y arnt ppl dieing i need more ppl dieing rly gud plot avansement jus liek tokyo ghoul if erbudy dies amirite |
| Let's just keep using the modern numbers we already use in mathematics, OK? I am more flexible when it's about changing greek variables though. |
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Insertanamehere said: "Arabic" numerals are Hindu numerals, they are called Arabic because they were introduced to Europe by Arabs. These are Indian/Hindu numerals. The one depicted at the lower side  |
swirlydragonSep 2, 2017 5:42 AM
Comic_Sans said: But they're easy!Noboru said: I'm terrible at Roman numbers lolGo learn Roman Numbers, then, since you're half-French. I + I = II V + I = VI X - I = IX M - C = CM D + C + C + C + L + X + X + X + V + I + I I= DCCCLXXXVIII You just have to calculate a bit more, but you should be used to that from counting Numbers in French :p |
swirlydragon said: PO1SON said: Bet more than 50% of the world don't know that numerals used in Western countries are Arabic numbers and the numbers we Arabs use are Indian numbers lol. While I do know that most of the people use Arabic numbers, but do you really use Indian numbers? Lol I thought it was only used in our country Tho in our country, Indian numbers are taught in Hindi schools only. In English schools, we also use Arabic numbers. The numbers we Arabs use are based off Indian numbers;  We use these numbers mostly in school until High School then we switch to the normal numbers 1,2,3, etc. but usually before that we use ١,٢,٣,etc. |
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Noboru said: Kuma said: That's a more accurate Depiction. In General, the Numbers are either referred to as Arabic Numerals or Hindu-Arabic Numerals. pretty sure current arabic numbers is inspired from persia which originated from india... misleading, decimal indian numbering already introduced in western before islam is a thing... it does however, not appeal to mayority... it was not until renaissance era, decimal numbering become common which in fact does inspired by arabs world numbering... swirlydragon said: Insertanamehere said: "Arabic" numerals are Hindu numerals, they are called Arabic because they were introduced to Europe by Arabs. These are Indian/Hindu numerals. The one depicted at the lower side most numbering that known spreading trough ancient civilization was pre-nagari old sanskrit numbering (thanks to silk road)...  yeah. i had to fucking learn this in my history clases... it has it's variety trough indian history alone, let alone other civilization... i forgot to taking photo the developmetn my country numbering, damn... |
KumaSep 2, 2017 5:51 AM
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PO1SON said: The numbers we Arabs use are based off Indian numbers; We use these numbers mostly in school until High School then we switch to the normal numbers 1,2,3, etc. but usually before that we use ١,٢,٣,etc. Oh I see Interesting. Never knew about it. I guess you learn new things on the internet everyday :) |
Kuma said: So we had the Decimal System before it came from the Arabs? I learnt something new today, lolmisleading, decimal indian numbering already introduced in western before islam is a thing... it does however, not appeal to mayority... it was not until renaissance era, decimal numbering become common which in fact does inspired by arabs world numbering... In any Case, if Arabic Numerals used by Arabs can be called Arabic Numerals, then we can call our Numerals Modern/International Numerals. Case closed. Btw.: It's interesting how the Names for the Numbers show that the Indo-European Languages are related: http://www.zompist.com/euro.htm |
Noboru said: because surprise surprise surprise, you guys shared language roots as well ancestor... Btw.: It's interesting how the Names for the Numbers show that the Indo-European Languages are related: http://www.zompist.com/euro.htm https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Language_family there is even special diciple under antrophology to learn such a thing called ethnolinguistic... it's dying discipline tho because too few people learn it... my university great linguistic professors was die in 2002 and nobody can replaced it ever since... |
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Kuma said: Noboru said: That's a more accurate Depiction. In General, the Numbers are either referred to as Arabic Numerals or Hindu-Arabic Numerals. misleading, decimal indian numbering already introduced in western before islam is a thing... it does however, not appeal to mayority... it was not until renaissance era, decimal numbering become common which in fact does inspired by arabs world numbering... You've got a source of this? I study the history of mathematics quite a bit, and everything I've learned point toward Europe using Roman numerals until the transmission of Hindu-Arabic numerals through Islamic Spain in the 9th and 10th centuries. Also, decimal numerals didn't spread out of India until after the system was finalized by the invention of zero by Brahmagupta in 630 AD. Of course, the Chinese independently used a decimal system earlier, but I've seen nowhere that anyone in Europe used one before. |
| Lmao, NDP getting rekt by some parody party. Always a joy. But sadly the NPD isn't the most dangerous far-right party at the moment. They are more like a joke anyway. |
| I probably regret this post by now. |
| It's important not to use decimal numerals and the Hindu-Arabic system interchangeably because "decimal numerals" simply means a base 10 number system. We have 10 fingers so base 10 number systems were pretty common among antiquity; the Egyptians, Greeks, Romans, Jews, and Chinese all used it. Some were developed independently (the Chinese) and others were not (Romans). "Decimals" also refers to the representation of non-integer extensions used in Hindu-Arabic. As far as I know Europe had a decimal (base ten) number system before Arabic numerals, but they were introduced to decimal fractions (among other innovations) through Hindu-Arabic numerals. Codex Albendensis was a historical record compiled by Spanish monks and it was the first European mention of Hindu-Arabic numerals in Europe. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Codex_Vigilanus So Fijure is right. Fibonacci created a standardized method for Hindu-Arabic numerals, but it wasn't until the invention of the printing press that it became widely practiced in Europe. |
PO1SON said: Bet more than 50% of the world don't know that numerals used in Western countries are Arabic numbers and the numbers we Arabs use are Indian numbers lol. No .. not all the arabs use the indian numbers .. the middle east use the indian numbers but the arab maghreb use the normal numbers like in the U.S or in europe .. |
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NudeBear said: It's important not to use decimal numerals and the Hindu-Arabic system interchangeably because "decimal numerals" simply means a base 10 number system. We have 10 fingers so base 10 number systems were pretty common among antiquity; the Egyptians, Greeks, Romans, Jews, and Chinese all used it. Some were developed independently (the Chinese) and others were not (Romans). "Decimals" also refers to the representation of non-integer extensions used in Hindu-Arabic. As far as I know Europe had a decimal (base ten) number system before Arabic numerals, but they were introduced to decimal fractions (among other innovations) through Hindu-Arabic numerals. Codex Albendensis was a historical record compiled by Spanish monks and it was the first European mention of Hindu-Arabic numerals in Europe. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Codex_Vigilanus So Fijure is right. Fibonacci created a standardized method for Hindu-Arabic numerals, but it wasn't until the invention of the printing press that it became widely practiced in Europe. Ah yes, the distinction between decimal and Hindu-Arabic is important. The true innovations of the Hindu-Arabic systems was representations of non-intergers and the use of zero as well as negative numbers as pioneered by Brahmagupta, and also the addition of complex algebra by Al-Khwarizmi in the ninth century. It is logical that most civilizations would use the base-ten system, though it is of note that the ancient Mayans performed highly complex calculations using a base-twenty system, and civilizations in Europe used a duodecimal (base-12) system for things like monetary systems and calendars before the decimal age. Thanks for your comment though, wasn't actually aware of the Codex Vigilanus, I only vaguely knew that the numerical system was transferred through Islamic Spain. |
Xtronic said: PO1SON said: Bet more than 50% of the world don't know that numerals used in Western countries are Arabic numbers and the numbers we Arabs use are Indian numbers lol. No .. not all the arabs use the indian numbers .. the middle east use the indian numbers but the arab maghreb use the normal numbers like in the U.S or in europe .. well yeah I clearly didn't say All Arabs but sorry if it was implied that way lol. But in Middle East where I am we usually use the Indian numbers, although I don't cause I find the normal ones easier personally. |
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Kuma said: It's from the Similarities as those that they believe that there was a common Ancestor among those Languages. Through the Comparison of the Names of the Gods, they have also derived a possible "Sky Father" as the once most revered God of the Indo-Europeans/Indo-Germanics. I thought, the Subject was called comparative Linguistics, like studying translated Works. Nothing works better than something that is translated in every possible Language like the Bible or the Lord's Prayer. Here are about 100 Translations of it: https://archive.org/details/ourlordsprayerin00apos there is even special diciple under antrophology to learn such a thing called ethnolinguistic... it's dying discipline tho because too few people learn it... my university great linguistic professors was die in 2002 and nobody can replaced it ever since... NudeBear said: How is the Roman Number System a Base 10 one?It's important not to use decimal numerals and the Hindu-Arabic system interchangeably because "decimal numerals" simply means a base 10 number system. We have 10 fingers so base 10 number systems were pretty common among antiquity; the Egyptians, Greeks, Romans, Jews, and Chinese all used it. Some were developed independently (the Chinese) and others were not (Romans). Fijure said: That's why we still have Words like "dozen" in our Languages and why Numbers from 1 to 12 have unique Names. Just a bit odd that New Modern English counts 1er Digits before 10er Digits only from 13 till 19 and then reverses the Order. It is logical that most civilizations would use the base-ten system, though it is of note that the ancient Mayans performed highly complex calculations using a base-twenty system, and civilizations in Europe used a duodecimal (base-12) system for things like monetary systems and calendars before the decimal age. |
NoboruSep 2, 2017 1:34 PM
Noboru said: Comic_Sans said: But they're easy!I'm terrible at Roman numbers lol I + I = II V + I = VI X - I = IX M - C = CM D + C + C + C + L + X + X + X + V + I + I I= DCCCLXXXVIII You just have to calculate a bit more, but you should be used to that from counting Numbers in French :p That's just addition though. It gets odd with multiplication http://www.phy6.org/outreach/edu/roman.htm |
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Fijure said: Kuma said: misleading, decimal indian numbering already introduced in western before islam is a thing... it does however, not appeal to mayority... it was not until renaissance era, decimal numbering become common which in fact does inspired by arabs world numbering... You've got a source of this? I study the history of mathematics quite a bit, and everything I've learned point toward Europe using Roman numerals until the transmission of Hindu-Arabic numerals through Islamic Spain in the 9th and 10th centuries. Also, decimal numerals didn't spread out of India until after the system was finalized by the invention of zero by Brahmagupta in 630 AD. Of course, the Chinese independently used a decimal system earlier, but I've seen nowhere that anyone in Europe used one before. http://www.archimedes-lab.org/numeral.html this is as far as i can search.. it was given as part on silk road course by my professors, so numbering is not it's main theme... just one influence of silk road... europe is not my speciality... so correct me if i am wrong.. 0 does compilated it and codes it established by brahmagupta, but the using number 0 it self might older than we tough... https://www.livescience.com/27853-who-invented-zero.html also our earliest inscription already using 0 numbers (it was simply dot, like arabic one) that was influenced by indian numberings* ... https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kedukan_Bukit_inscription https://www.southeastasianarchaeology.com/2015/05/18/earliest-known-inscription-of-0-is-cambodian/ i don't think they are invented those symbolon it's own, it's obvious how many indian influence in it... and by 6th century, it's already goes to indo-china.. *it was pallava/tamil (south india) numbering, not nagari/pre-nagari (north india) numbering which the one become base of modern numbering symbol... it does also 10 based but complitely different symbol... Noboru said: Kuma said: It's from the Similarities as those that they believe that there was a common Ancestor among those Languages. Through the Comparison of the Names of the Gods, they have also derived a possible "Sky Father" as the once most revered God of the Indo-Europeans/Indo-Germanics. I thought, the Subject was called comparative Linguistics, like studying translated Works. Nothing works better than something that is translated in every possible Language like the Bible or the Lord's Prayer. Here are about 100 Translations of it: https://archive.org/details/ourlordsprayerin00aposthere is even special diciple under antrophology to learn such a thing called ethnolinguistic... it's dying discipline tho because too few people learn it... my university great linguistic professors was die in 2002 and nobody can replaced it ever since... pretty sure the more compilated field about it is this https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ethnolinguistics i am by no means expert in here (especially europe)... but for my geographic area, (which has really diverse language because we are part of silk road), it was amusing study field... we has our own mothe rlanguage (autronesia language) and influenced by indian also chinese language... |
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Kuma said: Ethnolinguistics is more about how the Ethnicies view their World based on their Language, while (historical) comparative Linguistics compares the Languages. At least, that's how I understood it from the Wiki-Entries and from what the Words mean.pretty sure the more compilated field about it is this https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ethnolinguistics i am by no means expert in here (especially europe)... but for my geographic area, (which has really diverse language because we are part of silk road), it was amusing study field... we has our own mothe rlanguage (autronesia language) and influenced by indian also chinese language... @traed: That was a Joke. But wow, didn't know how the Roman multiplied. Didn't they only use 3 Times the same Character in a Row? |
Noboru said: Kuma said: Ethnolinguistics is more about how the Ethnicies view their World based on their Language, while (historical) comparative Linguistics compares the Languages. At least, that's how I understood it from the Wiki-Entries and from what the Words mean.pretty sure the more compilated field about it is this https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ethnolinguistics i am by no means expert in here (especially europe)... but for my geographic area, (which has really diverse language because we are part of silk road), it was amusing study field... we has our own mothe rlanguage (autronesia language) and influenced by indian also chinese language... i don't know what words in english, but if we learn linguistic literature, like HK kern A. weber, ETC, it was on antrophology linguistic classes... |
"If taking responsibility for a mistake that cannot be undone means death, it's not that hard to die. At least, not as hard as to live on." |
Kuma said: How are those Authors called with their full Names or respectively: what Titles from them do you have in Mind?i don't know what words in english, but if we learn linguistic literature, like HK kern A. weber, ETC, it was on antrophology linguistic classes... |
| Uh what doesnt that mean removing 1 2 3 |
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Noboru said: Kuma said: Ethnolinguistics is more about how the Ethnicies view their World based on their Language, while (historical) comparative Linguistics compares the Languages. At least, that's how I understood it from the Wiki-Entries and from what the Words mean.pretty sure the more compilated field about it is this https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ethnolinguistics i am by no means expert in here (especially europe)... but for my geographic area, (which has really diverse language because we are part of silk road), it was amusing study field... we has our own mothe rlanguage (autronesia language) and influenced by indian also chinese language... @traed: That was a Joke. But wow, didn't know how the Roman multiplied. Didn't they only use 3 Times the same Character in a Row? For most numbers yeah but for example 4,0000- 4,9999 have MMMM in them and various numbers you can write multiple ways such as 4 being IV or IIII and 5,000 can be written as MMMMM or V (with a bar over it) or IƆƆ or ↁ. I think it was different when using an abacus to do the calculations I assume to make it easier then they write it out different once it's calculated http://tuomas.salste.net/doc/roman/numeri-romani.html The Russian Peasant multiplication method is the exact same method. I actually like doing it that way occasionally. The Egyptians did something similar but different   There also is a method that was used in India ( though I more often ear it called Japanese but the Japanese say it's Indian). I cant quite confirm it's origin though. NudeBear said: It's important not to use decimal numerals and the Hindu-Arabic system interchangeably because "decimal numerals" simply means a base 10 number system. We have 10 fingers so base 10 number systems were pretty common among antiquity; the Egyptians, Greeks, Romans, Jews, and Chinese all used it. Some were developed independently (the Chinese) and others were not (Romans). "Decimals" also refers to the representation of non-integer extensions used in Hindu-Arabic. As far as I know Europe had a decimal (base ten) number system before Arabic numerals, but they were introduced to decimal fractions (among other innovations) through Hindu-Arabic numerals. Codex Albendensis was a historical record compiled by Spanish monks and it was the first European mention of Hindu-Arabic numerals in Europe. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Codex_Vigilanus So Fijure is right. Fibonacci created a standardized method for Hindu-Arabic numerals, but it wasn't until the invention of the printing press that it became widely practiced in Europe. But the Romans numerals had numerals by 5s in them. How is that base 10 not base 5? |
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Noboru said: Kuma said: How are those Authors called with their full Names or respectively: what Titles from them do you have in Mind?i don't know what words in english, but if we learn linguistic literature, like HK kern A. weber, ETC, it was on antrophology linguistic classes... johan hendrik casper kern... his works learn to explain why malaya language used as lingua franca for most austronesian people and how the first indian influence com to my country... |
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| @traed : Ah thanks; I wasn't sure how the Romans counted above the thousands. Those Math Examples from the Egypt Method work faster for me in the Head with the conventional Way: 17 * 25 = 20 * 25 - 3 * 25 = 500 - 75 = 425 1075 / 25 = 1000 / 25 + 75 / 25 = 40 + 3 = 43 The Indian or Japanese Method is too artistic. @Kuma: Thanks. Do you study something related to Anthropology and/or Linguistics or was/is it a Subject at your current School? |
NoboruSep 4, 2017 4:14 AM
Noboru said: i am currently a collage student in historical degree... and anthropology/linguistic (currently taking kawi/sanskrit/old java and dutch course) is one of discipline i have to learn (tho not specialized it, the main purpose is still history)...@Kuma: Thanks. Do you study something related to Anthropology and/or Linguistics or was/is it a Subject at your current School? |
KumaSep 4, 2017 4:24 AM
"If taking responsibility for a mistake that cannot be undone means death, it's not that hard to die. At least, not as hard as to live on." |
Kuma said: Sounds pretty interesting. So that explains how you knew about stuff like the history of our numerals ^^i am currently a collage student in historical degree... and anthropology/linguistic (currently taking kawi/sanskrit/old java and dutch course) is one of discipline i have to learn (tho not specialized it, the main purpose is still history)... I know of Sanskrit, but I didn't know that Javanese was also fairly old, especially when another South-East-Asian Language like Tagalog doesn't seem to have older Inscriptions than a few Centuries ago. I thought, only China, Korea and Japan had old Inscriptions in South-East-Asia. |
Noboru said: Kuma said: Sounds pretty interesting. So that explains how you knew about stuff like the history of our numerals ^^i am currently a collage student in historical degree... and anthropology/linguistic (currently taking kawi/sanskrit/old java and dutch course) is one of discipline i have to learn (tho not specialized it, the main purpose is still history)... I know of Sanskrit, but I didn't know that Javanese was also fairly old, especially when another South-East-Asian Language like Tagalog doesn't seem to have older Inscriptions than a few Centuries ago. I thought, only China, Korea and Japan had old Inscriptions in South-East-Asia. the problem is our language (or austronesia in general) don't have (proven) writing system (yet) and all of them mainly borrowed from india at very least the writing system (lot of our oldest inscription also using malaya language which is native to austronesian)... the language it self probably very old considering the original folklore (without indian influence) that they has (like tankuban perahu folklore can be dated to 50000 BP)... |
"If taking responsibility for a mistake that cannot be undone means death, it's not that hard to die. At least, not as hard as to live on." |
Kuma said: What does BP mean? 50 000 before Christ? If yes, that's pretty old! Sure it's the same Language and not a proto- or pre- one?the problem is our language (or austronesia in general) don't have (proven) writing system (yet) and all of them mainly borrowed from india at very least the writing system (lot of our oldest inscription also using malaya language which is native to austronesian)... the language it self probably very old considering the original folklore (without indian influence) that they has (like tankuban perahu folklore can be dated to 50000 BP)... |
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