Re:Zero kara Hajimeru Isekai Seikatsu Episode 19 Discussion

Farabeuf said:
it's a weird feeling to finish a Re:Zero episode and feeling good and upbeat about it.

kidlat020 said:


nice plot hole detection!

Subaru basically lied that his cellphone is a metia in their world, so why did Crusch never mentioned about him lying about that rather important detail?

lensjehhh said:
Tbh i dont understand the plot about the whale killing the best swordmen

How does everyone remember it? i thought that when the white whale killed someone, everyone forgets that person

Mickdrew said:
Pretty average episode for the most part - considering this was just a build up episode

The last few minutes were really good, though

Mentar said:
Just to make sure that the simple sweeping "hater" defense is deployed: I still enjoy the show quite a bit, and I am delighted to see Subaru returned to a constructive mode. There is actual story progress, and no more time wasted torturing Subaru. Fine! I buy! Still - I feel compelled to contradict our group of hardcore fans who insist on how extraordinary this show is for its "realistic" depiction of Subaru.

I remember that after episode 17, when I voiced my disapproval for devolving Subaru into a screaming ragdoll, many people explained to me with indignant reproach in their voices that Subaru was so broken that it was impossible to act any different than he did. That everyone would react like this. And then, all it takes was 10 friggen minutes - the second half of episode 18 - in which a kind girl comforted Subaru, got him to view things in a different perspective, and encouraged him, and Subaru flips from Zero to Hero like magic.

Not only does he turn from buffoon to Sherlock Holmes (e.g. how he "deduced" that it was Crusch's intention to kill the White Whale based on his earlier observations of wagon movements - this was utterly breathtaking), he also tries extremely complicated maneauvers, like playing the interests of the various parties against each other, with them "walking in" on each other at just the right time... that's the very same guy that was completely clueless in the prior iteration!

Impossible? No, certainly not. Realistic? *cough* welllllll....

The show has got its strengths, but for my taste, the author is waaaay too fixated on letting Subaru alternate between extremes. I'm almost certain that our Sherlock is going to turn back into Suffaru again fairly soon. A bit less flashiness would be much more in my opinion. But alas. We'll see.

Lord_Thantus said:
This was an interesting bit of world building we just saw. The way certain factions work are a bit clearer, and we can finally see that this White Whale has been a big thing that's been happening for a while. Even to the point that they have their own "mock survival group" thing with the soldiers who lost people to the whale.

Which brings up a big question. Why do they remember these victims? I think something sinister is happening here. I'd say it puts these deaths (or maybe the cause of them) in to question.

Can't wait for the next episode.

kidlat020 said:


nice plot hole detection!

Subaru basically lied that his cellphone is a metia in their world, so why did Crusch never mentioned about him lying about that rather important detail?

Yuzuryn said:


Don't bother with Jkay. Majority of their issues with this episode were explained. They're just shitposting at this point, honestly.

Subaru Out Smarts Political Leaders
>He uses what he learned in other loops in order to do so and has an advantage due to no one knowing about the cellphone. Maybe a bit too well, although it has been shown that Subaru is a bit self aware and perceptive in a way especially in the first few episodes where he negotiated at the Loot House.

Subaru Charges Out Head First In Front Of Trained Soldiers

>Subaru stated to Crusch that he would be the bait as /he/ as the Witch's scent aka what the Whale and Mabeasts are after. So Subaru has to charge out first and while the whale is chasing them, the others attack it. By doing this, it minimizes the possible deaths in the upcoming battle as the Whale will be too focused on Subaru to do maximum damage.

See how all their points start falling apart? All the buzzwords and constant dislike for the show? Yeah, shitposting. Do they have good points sometimes? Yeah, I guess so. But notice their condescending nature with this show? They mock everything this show has to offer and anyone defending it. Don't bother rip

Buck_Wade said:
I don't think you have any idea about therapy. Complaining, being honest with yourself, etc, REALLY helps in those cases.

shiraha said:


trivia :

subaru's ringtone is actually from an old japanese anime called "A dog of Flanders"

Mentar said:


What are you talking about? Rem is not doing "therapy" here, and based on your earlier comments you are most definitely unqualified to smart-aleck about it. Stop pretending, please, willya?

Subaru is flip-flopping between completely and utterly broken and amazingly capable and smart, and no, based on my life experience, a 10-minute soothing pep talk is not sufficient to credibly explain it. If your life experience says otherwise and you are satisfied with the development, more power to you. I'll get back to it the next time Subaru turns into a screaming ragdoll, and without knowing the source, I'm fairly certain that this won't be too far away.

Mentar said:
But this is exactly my point: If you indicate that you can sympathize with Subaru for being down on your knees in your life, then I'm sure you'll agree that you wouldn't be able to just turn around completely in one day, with only a kind understanding voice giving you courage?

In case I wasn't clear before: OF COURSE I would expect Rem's initiative to be effective, and to significant help him. But only _to a degree_, since things like this take time. Or, in other words, someone who is completely broken and down on his knees should not be performing an amazing tapdance the morning after. He should be happy enough if he were on his feet again. THIS is a bit much for me to swallow.

ExoticBankai said:
The end feel like a big reference to Jurassic Park

Tony_SansNom said:


Not necessarily.

ExoticBankai said:
The end feel like a big reference to Jurassic Park

Shinjisus said:
I have a question. Is there an explanation afterwards of why the old guy can remember her wife?

TitanAnteus said:

Maybe the whole forgetting thing isn't even related to the white whale but is related to Subaru's curse?

You're jumping to conclusions.

JuNex03 said:
So Crusch can detect lies, I'm thinking maybe Subaru could use this to tell her about his powers/origins/who he really is? He can give her a note/list of things to question him and it would go like this:

1.) Are you from another world? - No - Crusch detects lie
2.) Do you have the power to Return from Death? - No
3.) Is it true that you have already died numerous times just to revive again so that you can prevent horrible things from happening? - No

JuNex03 said:
So Crusch can detect lies, I'm thinking maybe Subaru could use this to tell her about his powers/origins/who he really is? He can give her a note/list of things to question him and it would go like this:

1.) Are you from another world? - No - Crusch detects lie
2.) Do you have the power to Return from Death? - No
3.) Is it true that you have already died numerous times just to revive again so that you can prevent horrible things from happening? - No

NitroKageAki said:


Uh, after ep 17 I'm pretty sure it's clear by now that the witch's conscious about what Subaru's doing.

Buck_Wade said:


I'm not so sure about that, because if the witch was 100% aware of what he's doing then he wouldn't even be able to use Return by death to his advantage.

It would go like this:
Subaru - "I need to lure the whale to me so that everyone else will be able to attack it from behind, I know! Rem I have the power to -"
Witch of Envy - "Wot? This motherfukas at it again? Meh he'll just use it to lure some shitty Mabeast again."
Subaru - "Why the fuck isn't it working?"

By my understanding it may not be as active as first thought. Maybe its only set like programmatically. Like

If (MyBitchSubaru.IsTalking = True) {

If CheckIfMyBitchisTalkingBoutHisPowersandShit (Discussion.text, SubjectMatter) = Kill {
Removethebitch'sheart
}

}

Function CheckIfMyBitchisTalkingBoutHisPowersandShit (Discussion, Subject){
<Insert Criteria Here>
Return (result)
}

Lol

JuNex03 said:


Well so far we don't know jack about why the Witch bought him, or even if it really was her, into the fantasy world.

willingscapegoat said:
Why do I have a feeling that this will only be a brief reprieve from the despair? All in all, a nice episode. I guess it's nice not to have my heart in a vice grip every once in a while.

Jorge24 said:
When did the ground dragon and Subaru first meet? From what episode?

JuNex03 said:


"Wouldn't even be able to use to his advantage..."? It isn't like she can prevent him from trying... It's for the viewer's sake that Subaru says more than otherwise would be allowed to. His intention has to be conveyed, and it seems better this way...

Buck_Wade said:


True, but if it was me I'd test it. Since he can already use it to lure stuff then that means he can also test it and see whether or not its 100% monitoring him lol

Kitcha said:
From a writer's perspective, I find it hard to imagine Subaru dying after putting a whole episode into developing his relationship with Rem, and now all of this.

With that being said, I feel so anxious thinking about what despair will strike next. We still don't know why everybody forgot about the bandana-guy and Rem in Subaru's former life - my guess would be it's connected to the whale's mist. If that's the case, these upcoming episodes can grow pretty horrible (especially since poor Subaru didn't seem to get effected by it).

AllGamer said:
Not sure if anyone noticed... but at the end of the episode, the "white" whale was highlighted with GREEN...

is that a hint for the next episode they are attacking the wrong whale?


That being said, is finally good to see Subaru back on his normal self

Now I'm sure this short lived victory will not last long from the roller-coaster emotion rides from episode 1 until now.

I'm sure the author will have yet more despair waiting for us in the next few chapters, even if they do manage to end the "white" / green whale, they still have that crazy cult to deal with.

Kitsu-nee said:
Just a build-up episode, nothing special, but I'm glad that plot is moving forward. Wonder if it's Subaru's last "return by death" in this arc? Hopefully everything goes smoothly this time!

Scene with cellphone's alarm was very climatic, loved it.