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Jul 17, 2016 7:24 AM
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Well the segment of Alisha this episode after meeting the others is quite similar to the OVA.

Rest of the episode is what I liked with the character focus. Alisha still has some PTSD moments as well. Sorey already developed some trust with Alisha too. What a bro. Lunarre scares me this episode D: feels like he's even stronger than before. Beautiful ending imo.
Jul 17, 2016 7:48 AM
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yea its really good i enjoy this show alot :D
Jul 17, 2016 8:00 AM
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I love all the changes they did!

Alisha begging the seraphim and describing the situation in "the world below" instead of being clueless about pretty much everything.

Alisha suffering from her PTSD which gives her as a person and the fate of the world more weight

The fight against Mr. Foxy which was awesome. In this version Sorey truly puts up a fight and I loved it.

Mason didn't die. I thought his death in the game was a little bit out of place and unnecessary.

Overall they managed to tie a good amount of characterization and backstory for Alisha into a better version of the meeting with Sorey. A really solid set up for what awaits us in Ladylake and from what I've heard the great changes continue there.
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Jul 17, 2016 8:13 AM
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The show is pretty good so far, but I'm really concerned if they conclude the story with only 12 episodes. I mean even with 26 episodes, Tales of Abyss felt extremely rushed during it's 2nd half of the show.
Jul 17, 2016 8:19 AM
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That was a great episode. The exposition is so well done, you can follow what's going on effortlessly. Really awesome.
Jul 17, 2016 8:19 AM
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I'm shocked. I thought I would see Maizen die for the third time. Once in the game, another in the ova, and another in this episode.

Anyway, I hope the pace picks up soon enough. Still, good episode.
Jul 17, 2016 8:22 AM
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hiruman said:
The show is pretty good so far, but I'm really concerned if they conclude the story with only 12 episodes. I mean even with 26 episodes, Tales of Abyss felt extremely rushed during it's 2nd half of the show.


The thing is, this is going to be 25 episodes split cour.
Jul 17, 2016 8:40 AM
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Good episode, Interesting that normal humans can't see Seraphim. Though if they lived together in the past then something must have happened that impede's the human ability to see Seraphim.

Alisha still suffering from the previous events, Sad the Seraphim didn't wanna help her :(
I liked the little part where Alisha told Sorey to stop hinting that the Seraphim were here, Shows how much she believes in those celestial records despite claiming that everything was just a fantasy .

The fox-guy showed up, That was quite random. How did he even find the place and know where to look for Alisha?

The ending scene was absolutely stunning, "So this is the world" , It looked beautiful.
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Jul 17, 2016 8:48 AM
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Holy shit, this episode was perfect 10/10+.

That action scene was so intense and bad ass.

And Mason! He wasn't eaten!

And is this Mikleo's 'tsundere' moment?



Very happy about this episode.


Inb4 Fai tells us how Ufotable is somehow bad at everything and Silver link is better.
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Well..it was less boring than in the game, mainly because of the changes.
But like in the game Mikleo made the episode for me, i want moarr
Jul 17, 2016 9:02 AM
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this thread is about 2nd episode right ??
Jul 17, 2016 9:11 AM

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this thread is about 2nd episode right ??


Well there was Prologue, which some call episode 0 and some call it episode 1. Then there was episode 1 and this is 2. This is for the latest episode.
Jul 17, 2016 9:34 AM

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Okay, pacing is a tad slow but in that case I'm feeling like it's a good thing, at least so far. I'm just hoping that this doesn't lead to pacing issues down the line, as so often seems to happen when something starts slow.
Jul 17, 2016 9:40 AM

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So Im guessing Sorey is pulling that sacred sword out, huh?
Jul 17, 2016 10:00 AM

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So Im guessing Sorey is pulling that sacred sword out, huh?

It'd be a shocker if he didn't.

Another good episode.
Jul 17, 2016 10:04 AM

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So this episode finished the rest of the OVA if I'm not mistaken, but I like the changes they made in this compared to the OVA. The fight seemed a lot more intense and badass in this version. And thankfully Mason didn't die because these guys probably would have started celebrating with fireworks again lol. Can't wait to see the continuation of their journey. Like the person above me said, it would be a shocker if Sorey didn't pull the sword out.

Frozenkex said:
Inb4 Fai tells us how Ufotable is somehow bad at everything and Silver link is better.

Lol I got a nice laugh from this.
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Jul 17, 2016 10:06 AM

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Ugh, the bug scene made me really uncomfortable. Anime looks pretty good so far, I love the visuals of it, plus the MC seem cool.

Ending is epic.
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Jul 17, 2016 10:14 AM

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_Hans_ said:
So Im guessing Sorey is pulling that sacred sword out, huh?


I mean, it'd only be natural right? Our mc gotta be the chosen one. More entertainment for us.

Still waiting for that diversion from the game...
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Well ... its alright, its good enough to keep watching at least!

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Inb4 Fai tells us how Ufotable is somehow bad at everything and Silver link is better.


Im already preparing the pop-corn
Jul 17, 2016 10:27 AM

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Well ... its alright, its good enough to keep watching at least!

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Inb4 Fai tells us how Ufotable is somehow bad at everything and Silver link is better.


Im already preparing the pop-corn


Yeah I feel the same about this too
Jul 17, 2016 10:57 AM
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Another good episode.

The action scene was so badass!
Jul 17, 2016 11:12 AM

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This episode was quite similar yet different from the OVA. I liked how they did it though^^ We got to see more development in Alisha and that she's not just a character with how coping with the tragedy she experienced. It was also nice seeing that she truly does believe in the Seraphim (and even in the end, she said she feels their presence! Yay!). Also, old Gramps and the rest of the Seraphim seems to have taken a liking to her. ^^

The fight scene was also done differently than the OVA but, again, I like the change. The graphics were stunning as well. Seems like the bad guy is looking for Alisha!

By the end, Sorey and Milkeo know that she's no ordinary knight and that the Hyuoma is most likely looking for her. I'd like to see a confrontation of him and Alisha to see her fighting skills once again! Both Sorey and Mikleo go search for her. I'm excited to see how their journey goes!
Jul 17, 2016 11:40 AM

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Nice ep. I really like the changes they have made so far
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Fappa said:
I love all the changes they did!

Alisha begging the seraphim and describing the situation in "the world below" instead of being clueless about pretty much everything.

Alisha suffering from her PTSD which gives her as a person and the fate of the world more weight

The fight against Mr. Foxy which was awesome. In this version Sorey truly puts up a fight and I loved it.

Mason didn't die. I thought his death in the game was a little bit out of place and unnecessary.

Overall they managed to tie a good amount of characterization and backstory for Alisha into a better version of the meeting with Sorey. A really solid set up for what awaits us in Ladylake and from what I've heard the great changes continue there.


This. All this. I love every little change they've made. Mason dying was not handled well in the game nor in the OVA. It was too sudden and had little to no impact overall, so it just felt unnecessary. Cutting it out entirely in favor of a "beat-up but healed"scenario was much better.

Alisha already has 10x the characterization in the anime that she does in the game. She was just so clueless at the start and it was frustrating. This episode + the prologue episode 0 have done a ton of good in helping this world down below Esyria develop a sense of danger that the game never did a good job of developing.

Can't wait for the LadyLake events to take place and for Lailah to join the party, which hopefully they will get to next episode. But I wouldn't be surprised if it ended in the church when
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Jul 17, 2016 12:02 PM

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Madlib said:
_Hans_ said:
So Im guessing Sorey is pulling that sacred sword out, huh?

It'd be a shocker if he didn't.

Another good episode.


Well considering that the synopsis already said he does I think it's a safe bet.
Jul 17, 2016 12:04 PM

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And the plot finally starts. Alisha leaves Elysia and Sorey and Mikleo are going to participate in that event of the sword. That fight again the fox dude was badass.

Props to the old seraph, by the previous episode he seemed to be a close minded individual, but he was cool in this episode.

Wonder how this will turn. 100% sure Sorey will be the Shepherd.
Jul 17, 2016 12:05 PM

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IceFireMan73 said:
Madlib said:

It'd be a shocker if he didn't.

Another good episode.


Well considering that the synopsis already said he does I think it's a safe bet.


Damn, it really does. Someone at MAL Rewrite needs to get on that pronto. Sure, it may be 100% obvious that he pulls the sword out anyway, but for it to be in the synopsis is still really unfitting imo.
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Jul 17, 2016 12:08 PM

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Gureito changes.

The OVA left me scratching my head in confusion more than once as too little was explained and many of the characters' reactions were clashing severly with the seriousness of the events befalling them. There's Mikleo x Sorey bait sprinkled everywhere throughout the episode and my inner fujoshi loves it, but even without the shipping goggles on it's not hard to find their bromance endearing (the little skits at the end of each episode are a true blessing, btw).
Alisha is beffitingly disturbed as opposed to amused upon realizing the fabled village where Seraphim allegedly live is completely empty, and overall she -as well as everyone else- responds much more organically to her new environment. She beseechs the Seraphim to come forward to help and goes through a period of doubt and despair when her prayers remain unanswered, and yet she never writes off Sorey's weird behaviour as that of some kind of delusional fool who spent too much time on his own and is now conjuring imaginary friends up his butt. It's also wholly satisfying to see her slowly come to the realization that she is surrounded by the presence of the Elysia's inhabitants, because it explains why she keeps having faith in the Shepherd's advent -as she leaves determined as ever to go back to the Capital in time for the Sacred Blade Fest. Actually, her faith in the existence of higher beings might even be part of the reason why she's somewhat able to sense them in the first place.

Of course the Mason situation needs no explanation: the poor sod whose untimely and unceremonious death was mourned with fucking fireworks in the OVA actually gets to live! And that's not even mentionning how much prettier the Hyouma v. Mikleo and Sorey fight scene was.

If the game was half as disappointing as the original OVA seemed to suggest and if ufotable keep cleaning up and improving on the messier parts of the source material, then I'm confident thatt if not a great fantasy anime, it will at least turn out be a pretty damn good one, and an excellent adaptation in its own right.
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Jul 17, 2016 12:24 PM

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i thought it would be the same thing like in the OVA but actually it wasn't and i really like it a lot especially that freaking action scene. DAMN!!! sasuga ufotable~~

and i like how they ended the episode. the soundtrack was so great. rare to hear that kind of sountrack in anime tbh xD

and now, the real shit begin in the next episode xD
looking foward to it :D
Jul 17, 2016 12:28 PM

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Oh, so Mason didn't die in this version. Lunarre's fight was amazing! =O
I had high expectations and even so I'm enjoying this anime even more than I thought I would. Hope it keeps like this =D
Jul 17, 2016 12:30 PM

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So Arthur is getting Excalibur next week, huh?

Tbh, this suffers the same problem ufoubw had. That is there is no Emotion. Alisha's scenes should've felt, dunno, sad and emotional, but there were 0 feelz.
Jul 17, 2016 12:34 PM

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Ufotable has done it again with the amazing animation. The story progression is going pretty well. Looking forward to the next episode for sure.

Jul 17, 2016 12:48 PM

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Holy fucking shit, that fighting scene was amazing. Need more of that high quality stuff.
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hiruman said:
The show is pretty good so far, but I'm really concerned if they conclude the story with only 12 episodes. I mean even with 26 episodes, Tales of Abyss felt extremely rushed during it's 2nd half of the show.
I feel the same way. :/ Perhaps there may be a second season though.
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hiruman said:
The show is pretty good so far, but I'm really concerned if they conclude the story with only 12 episodes. I mean even with 26 episodes, Tales of Abyss felt extremely rushed during it's 2nd half of the show.
I feel the same way. :/ Perhaps there may be a second season though.

It's going to be a split-cour so we're going to have 25+ eps. It seems they're going to make lots of changes throughout the series like this ep so i'm pretty sure they will be able to conclude it with 25 eps.
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Thank god they changed that hilariously awkward Mason scene.
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It was great just like the ova and i liked the changes although i wanted that fireworks-like scene lol
Sleeping alisha is cute lol
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Thank god they changed that hilariously awkward Mason scene.


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antonn said:
Thank god they changed that hilariously awkward Mason scene.



Both MikleoxSorey watching that slowly happen mid-fight and not doing anything, then the fireworks show immediately following it, as if he never existed.
Jul 17, 2016 1:21 PM

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Alisha with her hair down look stunning.

So I guess the story is finally about to get moving now that the major players are starting up. Also leave it to Ufo to have a 2 minute fight scene that looks absolutely gorgeous and feel like how a fight would go in a fantasy setting.
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Jul 17, 2016 1:24 PM

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I want to see mikileo funny faces
Jul 17, 2016 1:26 PM

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I like this anime My favourite so far is Alisha I like her a lot I hope I see more of her. I also like Sorey and Mikleo. I admit this episode start slow But Its awesome overally for me.

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DragonSlayer_19 said:



Both MikleoxSorey watching that slowly happen mid-fight and not doing anything, then the fireworks show immediately following it, as if he never existed.


Lol yeah right but the fireworks show looked beautiful though . The subs were a just a bit off lol mikleo saying she can't seem me instead of "see" but nothing bad overall
Jul 17, 2016 1:50 PM

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Definitely better then the game so far, Alisha might have gotten more character development in these 3 episodes then she did in the entire game.

Liked the short fight with Lunarre as well and the animation is just so beautiful all around.

Also warming up to the opening almost like it as much as the games opening now.
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I am really loving the changes! I'm really glad Mason didn't die, that always made me feel sick with him being eaten whole...
The skits are also such a cute way to do previews. I actually watch them for a change. Also, I'm hoping that Alisha joins the questing. She is so much more likeable in the series so far.
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Story-wise this is certainly far better than the game so far, even if its just baby steps in terms of taking out some very awkward things.

Alas those alterations can't exactly fix the cookie-cutter annoying bro MCs. They continue being just as annoying as in the game. Really makes me wish Alisha was the sole protag and Sorey never existed. And while scenes are better in terms of changes from the game, the overall lore is still a shaky generic mess and the badguys are still unbearably typical and one dimensional "HEHEHEHEHE" type of creeps. I guess there are some things you just can't fix about Zestria if ever.

The CGI backgrounds literally make me feel bad. In few moments where you have actually drawn backgrounds it looks great. And then it transitions into awful CGI ground and WHYY. Seriously it baffles me on why they need to make every rock and building a cgi object. It looks horrible.

Directing wise it wasa bit better than previous episodes but the show still does not have anything creative in terms of cinematography. Its very "plain" looking show.

The fights are still bearable albeit the fight this episode is way worse in terms of choreography when compared to the prologue fight. This was very safe and typical Ufo style of "let's throw random sfx explosions on the screen" kind of action that feels kind of dull and tries to overwhelm you with explosions and bright flashes at the screen. The only decent shot was where the MC hit the evil-guy in the gut and pushed him backward into the stone. That had a nice bit of impact. But everything else was quite meh even for ufo standards so far.

An okay episode overall, still weighed down by the mediocrity of Zestria and the safeness of Ufo's approach towards everything they do nowadays. 3/5.
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Its turning out really well, getting better after every episode.

Hope it keeps up. Need to finish the game some day, so much stuff in the backlog T-T
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Finally glad we are getting on with the story, i still prefer the special and prequel though because they have tons more content and the series left a lot of and changed a few things, although there were parts i liked.

1 part bugs me though, hyouma = Hellion and didn't see the devour scene instead he was saved this time. Oh and the fact that the battle happen AFTER Alisha left the village.

Also to my understanding it will be a split cour? good cause i felt 12 was way too short.
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1 part bugs me though, hyouma = Hellion

CR/Funi/whoever are using the names from the localized game, same with the name of the town from Izuchi to Elysia, among others.
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Holy shit! Those changes though...I was surprised when Alisha asked for help from the seraphims because in the game, she was pretty much quiet and clueless throughout that part.

Also, Mason managed to get away? Hmm....

Next episode, I'm going to go in blind because this is where I stopped playing the game. I just felt bored I guess.

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