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| I see some of the older post here wishing for takumi to be alive but guys cmon it aint going to happen. If it does happen it will be as a kabane/ biba bioweapon cause there is no way a normal human would survive a shot like that. Sad to see him go :( that cliffhanger thou. |
| It's time boyz and girlz! Plot device where somehow Ikoma removes his neckpiece thingey, goes full Kabane yet still retains his humanity and will probably be able to control a Kabane Colony and ends up fighting a genetically modified Mumei. Called it. But still, what an episode, I had a feeling things would go bad, but this bad with 2 episodes left? This better not be a cliffhanger. |
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| Everything feels forced. Biba is still the shittiest villain ever. Story had such a great set up and we're following it with a trash-tier villain that wants revenge on his father. How boring. Zzzz. The episode was okay, but it's just meh now. Xenlai said: Disappointed. Biba is as plain as a loli chest and Ikoma as weak as a loli punch. "Let's destroy humanity because my daddy abandoned me 10 years ago". Jeez what a character, I'm so thrilled. Was expecting this show to be about humanity against all odds. You know, fun stuff. Instead we get humanity against Literally my exact thoughts when this 'villain' got introduced lol. |
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| Lmao. Someone literally made a "what if MC dies" thread a couple days ago. Welp. Pretty good episode, just more building towards a big finale. I hope Ikoma didn't actually die. Biba can die any time now, I'm waiting. |
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Phoebe3315 said: BlazeWho said: Hmm? I understand being mad at chibi, but why Jacob? He's still enjoying the series quite a bit though the cliches (mainly the mind control drug) bothered him, which is understandable. I know they have advanced technology and stuff, but the mind controlling still felt slightly out of place. Although I'd prefer it to get explained somewhat, it won't really bother me as long as it seems like it only works on Mumei. As Mumei has spent a lot of her life with Biba, it's not too hard to believe he has a way to control her to some extent with drugs considering how much she grew to like him.Fuck chibi cough cough fuck Jacob cough cough Are these guys anime bloggers? |
| Well, that was depressing. And with Takumi's death and Ikoma losing his dominant arm, doesn't look like they'll ever show that epic group stance at the end of the opening, with all the main cast characters about to face hell outside of the train front. This show started off strong, but with two episodes left, doesn't look like we'll get a satisfactory ending. This is starting to go down the same shit show path just like Aldnoah Zero went down....no matter how awesome the music and animation, it won't be enough. Mumei is as naive and dumb as ever. If I were her, I would have taken that knife out of Biba's hand saying "sure I'll do it", only to use the very knife to stab him and be done with it. A cool kick-ass character reduced to an immature girl constantly having her string pulled like a puppet, time and time again. If she was going to rebel, should have done it from the get go instead of "don't wanna anymore" like her evil handler brother will actually listen to her after all the atrocities she's already witnessed him and his crew carry out previously. |
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| I can't believe Mumei stuck around for Biba even after last episode's events, I thought she was going to be locked up or something. She's one of the worst heroines I seen in a while and that's really rare for me. |
4kicks said: Mumei is as naive and dumb as ever. If I were her, I would have taken that knife out of Biba's hand saying "sure I'll do it", only to use the very knife to stab him and be done with it. Then she runs to Ikoma, professes her love for him, roll credits. |
QWERTYFish25 said: Chibi is a popular reviewer on YouTube, Jacob is the one reviewing the series on Anime News Network. I think their opinions are pretty good for the most part, though Chibi got too upset over Biba and the beam last episode.Phoebe3315 said: Hmm? I understand being mad at chibi, but why Jacob? He's still enjoying the series quite a bit though the cliches (mainly the mind control drug) bothered him, which is understandable. I know they have advanced technology and stuff, but the mind controlling still felt slightly out of place. Although I'd prefer it to get explained somewhat, it won't really bother me as long as it seems like it only works on Mumei. As Mumei has spent a lot of her life with Biba, it's not too hard to believe he has a way to control her to some extent with drugs considering how much she grew to like him. Are these guys anime bloggers? |
| I think Ikoma is fine...but...this episodes feels hit me like a train. I really feel bad for Takumi, as he is one of my favorites in this anime. |
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Phoebe3315 said: Chibi is a popular reviewer on YouTube, Jacob is the one reviewing the series on Anime News Network. I think their opinions are pretty good for the most part, though Chibi got too upset over Biba and the beam last episode. The problem I think I have with anime reviewers is the sometimes OCD like desire for consistent mechanics. If an attack throws the MC 25 feet into the air one time they're raging about it only throwing them 24 feet the next time, and 23 the third. I mean I get where they're coming from but one guy literally ragged on something like this for about 26 minutes before. I tried to listen to Digi and he makes awesome points about the meta, what made Chivalry of a failed knight better than Asterisk and the brerakdown of SAO but there are times when he gets bogged into shit that is otherwise vapid as fuck I mostly look at as exception attention to detail mostly, but there are times where I'm like. *sigh* Still great overall. |
| A mediocre show got turned to worse the second Biba got introduced, is there seriously someone who gives a fuck about this guy? Oh and Mumei just keep getting worse too.... |
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4kicks said: Mumei is as naive and dumb as ever. If I were her, I would have taken that knife out of Biba's hand saying "sure I'll do it", only to use the very knife to stab him and be done with it. A cool kick-ass character reduced to an immature girl constantly having her string pulled like a puppet, time and time again. If she was going to rebel, should have done it from the get go instead of "don't wanna anymore" like her evil handler brother will actually listen to her after all the atrocities she's already witnessed him and his crew carry out previously. Darn these brainwashed 12 year olds, can't even make proper judgement calls. What's the world coming to? |
| Omg Eren nooooooo😭😭😭 |
| I can't believe that this episode wasn't better...Mumei did even worse. Like how? I mean she saw Biba killing innocent people and capturing her friends and she still did nothing and stayed in the train and obeying him? wtf is wrong with her... :/ Best character ruined :/ Wondering how they will bring Ikoma back... Can't believe they ruined this anime like this, it was a 10/10 for me, it was getting so good before Biba's appearance. |
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| B3=Biba best billain. Am I right? Someone need to slap Mumei's face since last episode to wake her up. Now that she got drugged, the slap must be twice harder. |
Tyrel said: Everything feels forced. Biba is still the shittiest villain ever. Story had such a great set up and we're following it with a trash-tier villain that wants revenge on his father. How boring. Zzzz. The episode was okay, but it's just meh now. I'd say the main villain from the Code Geass OVAs puts up some stiff competition. Although perhaps you could argue that Biba is more bland since the other guy is flamboyant as fuck due to it being Code Geass and all, but if the main sticking point is how weak their motives are then I'd say Shaing takes the cake. |
fst said: Ugh, yeah. They're both pretty terrible. I can't stand the guys motive for wanting to destroy everything—humanity included basically. The directors sure turned this to shit fast. I forgot when he was introduced, but man, barely half of the show, I think?Tyrel said: Everything feels forced. Biba is still the shittiest villain ever. Story had such a great set up and we're following it with a trash-tier villain that wants revenge on his father. How boring. Zzzz. The episode was okay, but it's just meh now. I'd say the main villain from the Code Geass OVAs puts up some stiff competition. Although perhaps you could argue that Biba is more bland since the other guy is flamboyant as fuck due to it being Code Geass and all, but if the main sticking point is how weak their motives are then I'd say Shaing takes the cake. |
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| Best buh Takumi died. nooooooo. Mumei getting caught was dumb as hell. Like stop focusing on the plebian guys who cant possibly catch up to you and gtf outta there. That one guy who beat her and Ikoma was nowhere near her when she started making a break for it, but had time to show up out of nowhere while she was showing how much stronger she was than doctors. After this episode I've just accepted the fact that Ikoma sucks. Makes no sense how a dude with a super strength body is one of the weakest fuckers in the group. He has the body of a Kabane, but the with his human traits in tact...meaning he has a Kabane's super strength and healing factor. Yet he needs his steam gun, almost always gets beat down in fights, acts like every wound is a mortal wound, needs his friends to take bullets that wouldn't have killed him. Like, being a good guy character with smarts and a strong sense of justice doesn't really fuckin mean much when you suck at everything. And it boggles me that the guy who soaks up knowledge, and became a self-made science prodigy and Kabane expert couldn't learn how to fight properly and use his body. |
| NOOOO!! TAKUMI NOOOOOOOOO!! </3 Mumei doing the Leroy Jenkins act TWICE and now THIS?!! D: I-I-----I *sigh* and Biba.... wtf. wtf. wtf. what a drama queen king wtv. >_> I'm sure Ikoma won't die, but I wonder how he's gonna get out of that mess. EXFalchion said: At least American accent dude is still alive. At this point I'm expecting him to be killed off too, lol. LOL NOOOO! Don't kill GAIJIN-SAMA!! noooooooo D: |
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| the first decent episode. 5/10 |
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Thug_Gou said: YES, HIM! Have you seen his hair and glasses? He clearly deserves to die for that.NOOOO!! TAKUMI NOOOOOOOOO!! </3 Mumei doing the Leroy Jenkins act TWICE and now THIS?!! D: I-I-----I *sigh* and Biba.... wtf. wtf. wtf. what a drama queen king wtv. >_> I'm sure Ikoma won't die, but I wonder how he's gonna get out of that mess. EXFalchion said: At least American accent dude is still alive. At this point I'm expecting him to be killed off too, lol. LOL NOOOO! Don't kill GAIJIN-SAMA!! noooooooo D: |
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zal said: Thug_Gou said: YES, HIM! Have you seen his hair and glasses? He clearly deserves to die for that.NOOOO!! TAKUMI NOOOOOOOOO!! </3 Mumei doing the Leroy Jenkins act TWICE and now THIS?!! D: I-I-----I *sigh* and Biba.... wtf. wtf. wtf. what a drama queen king wtv. >_> I'm sure Ikoma won't die, but I wonder how he's gonna get out of that mess. LOL NOOOO! Don't kill GAIJIN-SAMA!! noooooooo D: he's the KKEEEWLLLIIIYEST! cause it's not a wig!  |
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Tyrel said: fst said: Ugh, yeah. They're both pretty terrible. I can't stand the guys motive for wanting to destroy everything—humanity included basically. The directors sure turned this to shit fast. I forgot when he was introduced, but man, barely half of the show, I think?I'd say the main villain from the Code Geass OVAs puts up some stiff competition. Although perhaps you could argue that Biba is more bland since the other guy is flamboyant as fuck due to it being Code Geass and all, but if the main sticking point is how weak their motives are then I'd say Shaing takes the cake. Yea, there's something to be said for the amount of suck that Biba has managed to inject into this show in about 3 episodes worth of appearances. |
| I feel like this series peaked hard with the battle against the fused colony. That encounter, for all of its weaknesses was at the very least epic, exciting and had great music. I feel like everything since has been dull by comparison. Personally I think that the series shot itself in the foot for trying to introduce the human villains with so little time to properly develop them. For a 12 episode series, sticking to just the Kabane would have been better. |
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Angry_Always said: Why all the hate on Mumei?!?! She actually had the strength to deny the older brother she had been brainwashed into idolising because she cared about the people on the Koutstsujou! She was forced to attack Ikoma! Also, she has never wanted anyone to die, she was mislead last episode. Also RIP Takumi, just when I started to love you :( Hoping for a Kurusu and Ikoma team up now to go take down Biba!!! The hate on Mumei is justifiable because after watching all the Carnage that Biba caused in the station due to Mumei's "accident" (Murder, she knew what she was getting into). She walks back to Biba, and tries to look for an explanation on a Massacre!!! MASSACRE!!! She even tries to get a deal out of Biba to not harm the others, but we know Biba wants the strongest to survive and purges out the weak which she should have figured it out by now. Yeah, she had the strength, but it was useless like always! Now, I am not mad about her stabbing Ikoma because she was brainwashed, but because of her character!! Here I thought, we would have a strong female lead, but it turned out to be a HUGE disappointment |
| oh no he took a bullet for his best friend. wait whats his name again? oh well hes dead no need to learn it. |
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| RIP Takumi. The stars are aligniing so well for Kurusu's intervention. He's going to steal the show, that's for sure. |
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Jaslen said: I agree with you, thanks for your thoughts. :) With this, I think Biba's actions are understandable. Unfortunately, the info regarding his backstory was pretty vague this episode, so I really hope they make it clear soon so fewer people complain about his motive being stupid.Darklight0303 said: Some more elaboration on Biba's past from the Prequel Novel or The recent Newtype article Thanks for this. I actually would be interested in seeing this backstory. How they survived those earlier years after the betrayal, without the highly developed weapons and stuff they now have; obviously his current research team was not part of the original lot deployed. Those had to be some harsh years. And having to deal with the knowledge that his own father sacrificed him. There really isn't much, if anything sadder/more devastating than this kind of betrayal, is there? He was so young then too. Obviously his highest ranking group of hunters were the ones left standing. No need for any 'brainwashing'. What led to his twisted state is not far-fetched at all. Day after day of being out there, either fighting off kabane or fleeing from them. I wonder if the stations they passed through had enough food to willingly share with them.. did they eventually have to take by force? Yeah, they would have to. They were seen as renegades, I'm sure some feudal lords who had word would have turned them away, even if food supply was not a problem, and no way were they helping with giving him able bodied men. They would want them inside the stations to defend it should an attack occur. Hmm..more fuel for his hatred. Revenge was his driving force, and along the way, humanity cast aside. Taking by force. That was the only way for him to survive and move towards his goal of revenge. I also see another group loyal to him, without needing to go through an indoctrination program; Some of the men who had their loved ones killed by kabane or their own people, like in Mumei's backstory; Their lords couldn't protect them, or worse still, made off by themselves, etc. |
| Takumi! No! Poor guy. This was a pretty damn good episode! |
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| am i the only one that finds this protagonist annoying as hell?! :ll Started off promising, then spiraled down to shit |
ElectricRed said: Angry_Always said: Why all the hate on Mumei?!?! She actually had the strength to deny the older brother she had been brainwashed into idolising because she cared about the people on the Koutstsujou! She was forced to attack Ikoma! Also, she has never wanted anyone to die, she was mislead last episode. Also RIP Takumi, just when I started to love you :( Hoping for a Kurusu and Ikoma team up now to go take down Biba!!! The hate on Mumei is justifiable because after watching all the Carnage that Biba caused in the station due to Mumei's "accident" (Murder, she knew what she was getting into). She walks back to Biba, and tries to look for an explanation on a Massacre!!! MASSACRE!!! She even tries to get a deal out of Biba to not harm the others, but we know Biba wants the strongest to survive and purges out the weak which she should have figured it out by now. Yeah, she had the strength, but it was useless like always! Now, I am not mad about her stabbing Ikoma because she was brainwashed, but because of her character!! Here I thought, we would have a strong female lead, but it turned out to be a HUGE disappointment I agree with your disappointment of her not retaining her 'badass' composure she had at the beginning of the series. When Biba was introduced she returned to her doting ways. Like I said and you know already, she has been mentally manipulated almost her entire life by this man. In a world of death and terror, innocent people dying is akin to an owl hoot at 7 AM, that is why she may have reacted the way she did. She wanted there to be some inescapable reason why her brother she idolized did such a thing. When she realized he didn't, she began to turn on him. That is why I still like her character. The writers could have easily made her hold her tongue and continue to believe in her brother and I would understand after his manipulation but that didn't happen, she actually saw him for what he was which I was thinking was impossible considering how she's been seeing him perfectly up until now. About the massacre anyhow, I think my reason for not blaming her entirely is that line she spoke when knocking out that guard. 'I better not kill anyone or Ikoma would yell at me' she says it sarcastically and with a smile. From that I think two things, one, she didn't expect anyone to die, two, she hadn't turned on her friends at that point. I'm kind of surprised at the amount of hate she is receiving to be honest. I can name characters far worse that everyone in the fandom has forgiven for deliberately cruel acts because they are 'kawaii'. Mumei, I believe, actually has valid reasons for her actions :/ |
| just checked the preview again - seems like Ikoma's hand didn't grow back :( aaawww, that sucks! I'm just so disappointed at this point. Episodes 1 and 2 were pure epicness, 3-4 were great, in 5-6 they started introducing unnecessary stuff - like hybrid colonies and people started acting stupid, ep 7 was okay for a moment of reprieve and then... things went downhill really fast. I gave the show a 10/10 after the first 4 eps. I even took the time to translate them into Polish for my father (who dislikes anime in general) and he liked them. But with how the show is now... I won't show him the rest. MondayBlues said: am i the only one that finds this protagonist annoying as hell?! :ll Started off promising, then spiraled down to shit I don't find Ikoma annoying. His character is very inconsistent. In the first ep he completes a revolutionary weapon. In the second ep he dragged himself with a couple of kabane chewing on him to the lever. Then he cleared the train roof, then killed the wazatori, improved the weapons of his people, then devised a sensible plan to clear the tracks... and this was his peak. He failed to rescue Mumei from under the rocks (had a few bad ideas), although he did protect her from the kabane. But later on all he does is getting beaten like a weakling. In the last ep, I hoped that he would at least rip off his collar, enter rage mode and kill some of Biba's men after losing his best friend... and/or maybe grab Mumei after she stabbed him and jump out seeing Biba is OP. That would have been cool and smart. But he failed completely and utterly instead. |
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| Wow, they just killed the best bro of the show... |
Baka-Hiru said: Uh no...you look at the genre. It says shounen. Is there really an MC that "permanently dies" and be removed from the plot in shounen? Correct me if i'm wrong cuz I haven't seen much anime but still that's my conclusion from experience. Shounen is demographics of manga and not genre. This is anime original. |
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bastek66 said: Baka-Hiru said: Uh no...you look at the genre. It says shounen. Is there really an MC that "permanently dies" and be removed from the plot in shounen? Correct me if i'm wrong cuz I haven't seen much anime but still that's my conclusion from experience. Shounen is demographics of manga and not genre. This is anime original. Yes you are correct, the word "Shounen" is actually a demographic but is also considered as a general genre in anime. I should have said "Shounen anime" or "Shounen-anime" to be more clear on my intention. My bad dude...I should not have used it as a single word cause a few people will have difficulty understandig. Well as your a fellow member of MAL, what I was referring to was the genre being displayed at the left corner under Information where they sometimes put the word shounen type of shounen. For ex. http://myanimelist.net/anime/genre/27/Shounen |
| So pissed off while wathcing this episode... Only two more episodes left. Where is this show going. |
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| After this , I'll become a huge monster hahaha! -Ikoma |
| I guess this means that Ikoma will come back later with a bionic arm and working for the Russians. |
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Baka-Hiru said: Yes you are correct, the word "Shounen" is actually a demographic but is also considered as a general genre in anime. I should have said "Shounen anime" or "Shounen-anime" to be more clear on my intention. My bad dude...I should not have used it as a single word cause a few people will have difficulty understandig. Well as your a fellow member of MAL, what I was referring to was the genre being displayed at the left corner under Information where they sometimes put the word shounen type of shounen. For ex. http://myanimelist.net/anime/genre/27/Shounen It's still not shounen anime. It's not for young boys beacuse it airs late night and contains gore. |
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bastek66 said: Since it contains gore it is rated as 17+ but that doesn't mean it isn't a shounen. I think its main demographic are still teenagers/young boys.Baka-Hiru said: Yes you are correct, the word "Shounen" is actually a demographic but is also considered as a general genre in anime. I should have said "Shounen anime" or "Shounen-anime" to be more clear on my intention. My bad dude...I should not have used it as a single word cause a few people will have difficulty understandig. Well as your a fellow member of MAL, what I was referring to was the genre being displayed at the left corner under Information where they sometimes put the word shounen type of shounen. For ex. http://myanimelist.net/anime/genre/27/Shounen It's still not shounen anime. It's not for young boys because it airs late night and contains gore. |
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zal said: bastek66 said: Since it contains gore it is rated as 17+ but that doesn't mean it isn't a shounen. I think its main demographic are still teenagers/young boys.It's still not shounen anime. It's not for young boys because it airs late night and contains gore. If there's no training arc it aint no shounen. |
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