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| THIS IS AN ANIME ONLY DISCUSSION POST. DO NOT DISCUSS THE MANGA BEYOND THIS EPISODE. ---------------------------------------- Weird episode, first half was more buildup but also more focus about Beatrix and Stasi TSF. Not too much action but there's quite a bit of tension. Lise really fitting into to the group though. I guess Theodor is finding it hard to trust others although Irisdina trusts him. Lise's relationship with him feels odd this episode. Sylvia's threat though... |
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| It's a fine episode, I guess. Another talk about spy, and probably another romance occured for Theodore. But his sister is getting kinda fishy and creepy to when meet with Katia, handed over the necklace and then talking about stuff. Maybe she is the spy but didn't realize that. She's not a spy, she's a succubus. I bet there's a tail covered behind that "dark line". lol |
MasceraFeb 14, 2016 10:47 PM
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| Good episode, and it sells the political conflicts around and man it seems this is gonna go crazy quick. I'm with the rest on this. Lise cannot be trusted, specially after how she approached Katia. And now she presents herself nude with Theodore. Yeap this is a trap, whether it be by seduction or by innocence, she is trying to appeal to Theodore so she can keep working and disrupting everything. Be it because of fear or loyalty, she is on the Stasi's pocket for real. That also means that by proxy she will get off'd at some point in life. I mean with Katia around as well, it is kinda unthinkable that Lise can "fit" in some way. |
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| Theodore's harem is building up. That ending though XD 3/5 |
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| She's obviously a spy, now I'm 100% sure. |
| Intense ending. So Stasi has 2 factions in a power struggle of joining up with Soviets and KGB interesting. Not sure how I think of this I mean cutting ties with the west is also suicidal as Axmann wanted :P |
| eeeeh??? she was nude i know lise is a bitch hahhaha is too obvious hahhahah i bet she is false and he is taking her roll very well theodor !don´t believe her! i hope he is not in love with her....pleaseeeeeeeeeeeeeeee nooooooooo theodor -bernhrard are the best couple imo |
| That ending pretty much confirms that she's a spy, willingly or not. Theodor, you're gonna have to pass on her generous offer. |
| "Perhaps there is a universal, absolute truth. Perhaps it justifies every question. But that's beyond the reach of these small hands." Mamoru Oshii There is a cult of ignorance (...) nurtured by the false notion that democracy means that “my ignorance is just as good as your knowledge.” Isaac Asimov |
Farabeuf said: Actually it's been suggested the entire time that she is a spy to the point where i don't want here to be a spy just to keep things interesting.That ending pretty much confirms that she's a spy, willingly or not. Theodor, you're gonna have to pass on her generous offer. But ye her reactions when talking to Katia and the fact that she is seducing Theodor now pretty much confirms it. And the power hunger is back in full throttle. The Stasi is so blinded by power that they don't realise they don't have nothing left to rule over ones they get in power. It's questionable wether they themselves will still be alive at that point. |
| This ep was amazing. You can feel just how tense everyone is and I love it. I am also loving the whole aspect of groups slowly negotiating with each other. And lastly, that ending! Lise is suspicious af. She's desperate now so she lookin to smash with Theodore. I'm super hyped! |
| LOL. Theodor: (there is no way a girl who is my (step) sister, who offers me her body could ever be a spy right?" |
#CHEXIT |
| Interesting episode with a lot of build up to the next episodes with the internal war incoming along with a BETA force of 100,000 also coming. It is really interesting to see the politics be implemented into this with a split of the stasi and also the USSR having a factor in this which is cool since this is around the time of the Cold War. It was also nice to see some Gretel x Theodor moments. So the last big thing in this was the fact that Lise is obviously a stasi spy but it looks like she is a spy for the Moscow fraction and looks like Theodor is going to have to make a big choice next episode which I cannot wait to see. If you want to see my full review on the episode check out the link to my YouTube channel on my profile page where I make review videos on the current anime! |
Imeon said: LOL. Theodor: (there is no way a girl who is my (step) sister, who offers me her body could ever be a spy right?" ...Master... ...Poker Face -. |
Tekken02Feb 14, 2016 4:25 PM
| Lise's just too fishy, even after that ending. But damn, Theodor, can you resist that? Big question. I most certainly wouldn't. |
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| East Germany is having a power struggle with West Germany; The East's military is having a power struggle with the Stasi; and now there's a power struggle WITHIN the Stasi; Meanwhile, aliens are close to wiping out humanity but no one can cooperate. |
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m-i-c-h-a-e-l said: East Germany is having a power struggle with West Germany; The East's military is having a power struggle with the Stasi; and now there's a power struggle WITHIN the Stasi; Meanwhile, aliens are close to wiping out humanity but no one can cooperate. Couldn't agree more. When Lise started asking questions about their plans, and at that moment i thought that she was working with Stasi, but that ending...i don't know. |
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| Yeah she's definitely a spy now. But that ending was so stupid actually... Way to get off-track. Hope I'm wrong though, I want to be surprised. |
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| inb4 off screen sex desu |
AivanK said: m-i-c-h-a-e-l said: East Germany is having a power struggle with West Germany; The East's military is having a power struggle with the Stasi; and now there's a power struggle WITHIN the Stasi; Meanwhile, aliens are close to wiping out humanity but no one can cooperate. Couldn't agree more. When Lise started asking questions about their plans, and at that moment i thought that she was working with Stasi, but that ending...i don't know. I love this anime, because it shows the true nature of mankind, it doesn't matter if we're on the verge of extintion at the claws of brutal aliens, people will still fight for a chair. |
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| I have no idea if Lise is a spy or not; but I do know that she's crazy. If she did indeed spend time in the Stasi's dungeons well that would explain it. |
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| I really enjoyed this episode, but I did not like the ending at all. |
| Just bang her and got as far away from her! |
| Lise: don't you all believe me?! Group: of course we believe you! Group behind her back: so.. How are we gonna deal with her? |
| This was a... weird episode. First half was a lot of talk about spies, the both halfs of Germany, about Lise being an spy but it didn't feel slow tho. Second half was the weirdest... HEN DID GRETEL START TO HAVE FEELINGS FOR THEODORE? I GOT LOST IN THAT MOMENT WHEN SHE BLUSHED ???, Why is Lise trying to bang his brother? I mean, it's obviously that she's an spy but c'mon, this got kind of twisted in a really, really weird way. |
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| Lise's encounter with Katia was exceedingly creepy... One can't be a Stasi spy even if a Stasi officer is implying that one actually is, eh? I guess things are getting more interesting on both fronts, the humanity's war against itself and their fight against the BETA. On another note, Gretel was unexpectedly cute (and resourceful). |
| This episode made me love Sylvia <333 And Lise starts to annoy me. The ending was so weird... |
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| Either she's a spy who knows she's a spy, or she's a sleeper cell who's been conditioned to become a spy once she's activated somehow. Either way, she's totally insane in the head.... and a sure spy. I have no idea why they're even trying so hard to make it obvious to everyone. |
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| I never trusted Lise, but this episode was solid proof she's a spy. I never thought I'd say this, but I agree with Sylvia. Lise brings up "being suspicious" so often as a way to make her seem tormented about it, like she's innocent and can't bear being considered otherwise. I trusted Theodor to be calm and objective about it, but I guess that was too much to ask for; he trusts her a lot more than I thought. Also, Katia should have told him everything Lise said! She was so vague, of course her testimony didn't sound very convincing to Theodor. If she had mentioned everything Lise said, I think even Theodor would have hesitated. |
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| fucking Stasi man and she's spy we all know it and the fuck was with that weird ending -_- |
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Imeon said: LOL. Theodor: (there is no way a girl who is my (step) sister, who offers me her body could ever be a spy right?" Totally! :D The hell, that ending. Zahylon said: I love this anime, because it shows the true nature of mankind, it doesn't matter if we're on the verge of extintion at the claws of brutal aliens, people will still fight for a chair. So Pacific Rim will just be a dream? Dammnit I want my giant robots. |
Kotori_SonodaFeb 15, 2016 4:04 PM
"Fortress Maximus has come himself. Okay! Then I shall get Fortress Maximus to fight me, huh huh huh!" |
| So obvious that she's a spy, but that was a given long ago lol. After seeing her with no clothes on at the end there, it's pretty obvious that she uses seduction to get what she wants. |
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If anything, we'll probably use Objects rather than humanoid robots. But we can always put teenagers in humanoid robots and defeat ANY enemy by yelling fancy attack names, Victory is absolutelly assured that way. |
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| well shes like 100% suspect now i remember last week there was a quick scene of he piloting a TSF with some scary face, also seduction is like spy 101! |
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| OMG she;s going to try to seduce Theodor OMG OMG |
| All around good episode especially that ending. I like where this is going. Give in to the temptation Theodor! Imeon said: Theodor: (there is no way a girl who is my (step) sister, who offers me her body could ever be a spy right?" ...nooo! ...I forgot about that part. ...She's cute anyways. |
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radle said: All around good episode especially that ending. I like where this is going. Give in to the temptation Theodor! Imeon said: Theodor: (there is no way a girl who is my (step) sister, who offers me her body could ever be a spy right?" ...nooo! ...I forgot about that part. ...She's cute anyways. She's got a nice figure for her age too. Blondes with nice figures...Lise sure knows how to strike at Theodor :D I doubt he'll go through with it though, dunno if he ever looked at her that way, the timing is rather off and doing his non-blood related sister is probably the last thing on his mind right now. T Poor Lise though...by the way she looked when she had her conversation with Katia, the stasi probably did some nasty shit to her and with the way things are, squad 666 can't afford to give her the benefit of doubt - she's a villain to them. Even worse when she's your only remaining family member that you haven't seen for ages and got along great with. Theodor's caught between a rock & a hard place, although his priorities most likely stand with Iris, Katia & squad 666. |
| The poor commissar is waving a whole armful of death flags. |
| My thoughts, I am wondering if lise's parents are actually dead and not being held hostage to force her to get dirt on 666, not to mention they probably told her that Theo ratted on their dad. I mean it never actually showed them being shot dowm, it left that up to your imagination although theo did say he thought they were dead so who knows though. Also if she was trying to seduce Theodore I think she might have waited till he turned around to embrace. I think that next episode will show them embraced and Katia will burst in while they are making out. |
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| i'm guessing Gretel will die. and obviously Lise is a spy. without any second thought, she is a spy!!! that ending makes it all clear...she even trying to seduce his brother...not even a stupid person would get tricked by that...if he really fuck her....they he is stupid....at least everyone start to suspect her...i'm glad with that, cause i don't to want see someone die again. and this episode is really pissing me off. people were suddenly trying to arrest someone without any reasonable cause. and i hate people that like to start a war...with out any reason..... |
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| Is she a spy? The show switches back and forth with it, and it actually does a pretty good job of making you doubt your conclusions. It's like: "Hey, look: she's asking questions about the captain and whether Theo wants to fight the Stasi. She's surely a spy, right?", and then it shifts to: "Oh, but wait: she denies it to the end and insists that she only wants her comrades to trust her. Maybe she isn't a spy, huh?" But she probably is. Seduction is one of the oldest forms of trying to win trust. Theo, please, do not fall for it and remember who your enemies are. God, I hate the Stasi. In other news, Gretel just blackmailed a superior officer. I can't imagine what would happen to a lieutenant in Nazi Germany if he/she tried that. Probably would've been shot with Lugers. Props to you, Gretel (and she's kinda cute when bashful). 4.5/5 |
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Maledict said: Is she a spy? The show switches back and forth with it, and it actually does a pretty good job of making you doubt your conclusions. It's like: "Hey, look: she's asking questions about the captain and whether Theo wants to fight the Stasi. She's surely a spy, right?", and then it shifts to: "Oh, but wait: she denies it to the end and insists that she only wants her comrades to trust her. Maybe she isn't a spy, huh?" But she probably is. Seduction is one of the oldest forms of trying to win trust. Theo, please, do not fall for it and remember who your enemies are. God, I hate the Stasi. In other news, Gretel just blackmailed a superior officer. I can't imagine what would happen to a lieutenant in Nazi Germany if he/she tried that. Probably would've been shot with Lugers. Props to you, Gretel (and she's kinda cute when bashful). 4.5/5 Maybe Lise is spesialist in Seducing the enemy, and Stasi make use Lise's body to do her mission |
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| What Lise said: "Onii-chan, take me!" is not true...it's actually: "Onii-chan, f*ck me! almost nobody belives on Lise. Gretel blushes and is a bit cute this time? possibly a death flag? many 3rd parties are taking advantage about the 100k BETA attack so that while Stasi are busy, they could take this opportunity...which makes more chaos and all. 4/5. |
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Ayy lmao I keep forgetting the fact that he is is no shape related to the Hohenstein family with the flashback being recalled vividly in my head. The fact she popped out of nowhere confirms that she is a spy and her avoiding the blame game plus the seduction is even more proof on tops. |
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