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Jan 28, 2016 3:46 AM
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Ooh that revelation about the Vinsmoke family...assassins hmm?

And lol, Chopper is infatuated this chapter. priceless.
Jan 28, 2016 3:54 AM
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Lol another one that likes to copy Togashi.

Vinsmokes and Sanji = Zoldycks and Killua...
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Nekomamushi is the best eheh, Wheee! A ball! ahahah

Jan 28, 2016 4:05 AM
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So much for Sanji being a prince. RIP countless theories.

Chopper being in love was priceless lol

Nekomamushi is a lot more fun than I was expecting.
Jan 28, 2016 4:06 AM
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Tsu-kki said:
Lol another one that likes to copy Togashi.

Vinsmokes and Sanji = Zoldycks and Killua...

>Implying that a family of assassins was an original concept to begin with lol
Jan 28, 2016 4:18 AM
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G_Spark233 said:
Tsu-kki said:
Lol another one that likes to copy Togashi.

Vinsmokes and Sanji = Zoldycks and Killua...

>Implying that a family of assassins was an original concept to begin with lol


If you would stop wearing your fanboy glasses you would see how much of a copy this is going to be.
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Tsu-kki said:
G_Spark233 said:

>Implying that a family of assassins was an original concept to begin with lol


If you would stop wearing your fanboy glasses you would see how much of a copy this is going to be.

By doing a similar concept that's been done countless of times before? Wut?
Jan 28, 2016 4:24 AM
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lel that nekomamushi is funny. also chopper now having interest with females lol nice.




But you'll still take damage!
Jan 28, 2016 4:29 AM
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Nice chapter!
Chopper was awesome, and i didn't see that coming! Sanji's family are assasins? Thatbreaks down all the theories that Sanji was a prince or a noble
Jan 28, 2016 4:29 AM

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G_Spark233 said:
Tsu-kki said:


If you would stop wearing your fanboy glasses you would see how much of a copy this is going to be.

By doing a similar concept that's been done countless of times before? Wut?


I wasn't talking about the assassin family only. Will be fun to see the vinsmoke illumi, the same father, second brother and the sister that has something special to offer.
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Well, i guess we could say

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Sanji is..

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the Assasin's Prince
Jan 28, 2016 4:38 AM

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Kinda slow chapter. Only the last page is interesting.
But it's important to remember that a movie review is subjective;it only gives you one person's opinion.

http://www.classzone.com/books/lnetwork_gr08/page_build.cfm?content=analyz_media&ch=30

It doesn't matter if you like LoGH,Monster etc.If you are a jobless or college/school dropout living in your mom basement, you are still an unintelligent loser. Taste in anime does not make you a better person.If elitist don't exist, casual pleb and shit taste also don't exist.
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Tsu-kki said:
G_Spark233 said:

By doing a similar concept that's been done countless of times before? Wut?


I wasn't talking about the assassin family only. Will be fun to see the vinsmoke illumi, the same father, second brother and the sister that has something special to offer.

What makes you think that's going to happen?
Jan 28, 2016 4:50 AM

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Ok, so an assasination family that is wanted alive only? there HAS to be more behind it..

Good to see Chopper found himself a lady!! Haha, Zoro... Giving that damn cook no credit whatsoever haha! Also from this day on, that Nekomamushi is called Garfield for me, way easier XD
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There goes the Gorosei and Noble family theory, Sanji confirmed a Zoldyck.
I expect his family to be super strong.
Maybe the Vinsmoke killed Brook and his crew.
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Tsu-kki said:
Lol another one that likes to copy Togashi.

Vinsmokes and Sanji = Zoldycks and Killua...


Because that clearly wasn't a set up all along refering to Al Capone's real life enemies and the wedding scheme to assassinate his enemies... yeaaaa just a ripoff right?
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Jan 28, 2016 4:54 AM

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Sanji just left and we already have a replacement for love gags with Chopper.
Nekomamushi got quite funny personality and of course the cliffhanger about Vinsmoke family, thank god Oda didn't take a break next week :D
If they were assassins for more generations maybe Brook knows some of Sanji's ancestors from way back when he had his own crew.
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i love it when theories turn out to be wrong xD i just like unpredictability :3
Jan 28, 2016 4:54 AM

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Chopper is stiff ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)

Some beautiful panels if you pay attention to the details.

I also love those discussions within the crew about serious topics, Zoro always shines in those discussions imo.
Jan 28, 2016 4:58 AM
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Loved Zoro's response! "Well, that's that then" :D :D I'm sure he loves Sanji deep down!

Nobility isn't totally out the window. Assassin families, especially if they're big and successful are kinda like royalty in the underworld, so Sanji could be considered a prince of sorts. But I guess it shows that they're aren't world nobles. Still, they must have considerable influence over the world government if they can get his wanted poster changed. The government must be scared of them!
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Spotted by an anon.
>Wine
>smokes
>Waiter(?)
>Pekoms and Tamago in the same page
Who could it be?
Jan 28, 2016 5:11 AM
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Lasagna? Seriously? Is Nekomushi related to that orange fat cat or something?

Or is Cats loving lasagna becoming more a thing now?
Jan 28, 2016 5:13 AM
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Loved Zoro's response! "Well, that's that then" :D :D I'm sure he loves Sanji deep down!

Nobility isn't totally out the window. Assassin families, especially if they're big and successful are kinda like royalty in the underworld, so Sanji could be considered a prince of sorts. But I guess it shows that they're aren't world nobles. Still, they must have considerable influence over the world government if they can get his wanted poster changed. The government must be scared of them!


Indeed/agree, I can't wait to see how Sanji's family is involved with the World Government or Navy! It's already weird that Sanji's family, an infamous underworld assassin family is involved with them!
Jan 28, 2016 5:15 AM

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chopper in love ....
so sanji father is assassin ....
Jan 28, 2016 5:18 AM

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Great chapter. Not much to comment about it since it was dialogue heavy.

I lol'd at Nekomamushi's panels and chopper being stiff.
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There goes the Gorosei and Noble family theory, Sanji confirmed a Zoldyck.
I expect his family to be super strong.
Maybe the Vinsmoke killed Brook and his crew.
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i love it when theories turn out to be wrong xD i just like unpredictability :3

I think there's a theory about Sanji's family being connected to Cipher Pol 0. It still kinda makes sense if they are assassin's family.

http://www.onepiecegold.com/vinsmoke-family-ties-from-piracy-to-secrecy/2/
Jan 28, 2016 5:33 AM

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Lasagna? Seriously? Is Nekomushi related to that orange fat cat or something?

Or is Cats loving lasagna becoming more a thing now?

Neko-who? oooh, you must mean GARFIELD!! (mentioned it earlier, Garfield is his official name for me!)
Jan 28, 2016 5:35 AM

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Well screw you too, Zoro!

Great chapter, a bit sad nothing really new was said until the last page. It's good to see the crew recognizing the mess they're getting into, they don't often do that.

I can't get out of my mind the thought that Chopper looks like a kid, and that also makes me think that reindeer's average lifespan is just something more than 10 years... is he gonna die soon?

Nekomamushi's love for lasagna like Garfield is just another reference Oda made, same for the reference about Al Capone.

I want to travel into the future and read all the damn chapters all at once god damn it!
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Jan 28, 2016 5:47 AM
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Brock the way he imagined Master Nekomamushi to be. He is funny. Anyway yes we do have Kaido to deal with.

I have a feelings is going to end up Straw Hats and Big Ma vs Kaido, we are going need all the help we can to deal with Kaido.

Looks like one of the minks likes Chooper, that was adorable, he is a doctor after all, if he was human women would want him because he is a doctor.

So Sanji comes from a family of assassins, that can't be good to have a family of assassins pissed off at us.
Jan 28, 2016 5:56 AM

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Drake1000 said:

Spotted by an anon.
>Wine
>smokes
>Waiter(?)
>Pekoms and Tamago in the same page
Who could it be?

Nice one. Don't forget that it was mentioned they are famous in the underworld.
Jan 28, 2016 6:15 AM
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A Random Guess. Brook has been acting a bit conspicuous throughout this chapter regarding the Sanji's family. It's possible that maybe the Vinsmoke are the ones who killed Brook's crew!
Jan 28, 2016 6:24 AM
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bkim999 said:
A Random Guess. Brook has been acting a bit conspicuous throughout this chapter regarding the Sanji's family. It's possible that maybe the Vinsmoke are the ones who killed Brook's crew!


I like this theory! Would be interesting if it was all tied together like that! - gives the Straw Hats a reason to defeat the Vinsmoke family!
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We all know how much Luffy cares about his nakama but it's nice to see he'd even prefer having Sanji with them even if he was under Big Mom (never gonna happen tho lol)

It was awesome seeing Zoro stating facts with how they pissed of Kaido and now Sanji dived in with a BM problem too. Nami sure is sticking up to Sanji there ;3
Never change Luffy XD "let's go meet Sanji" lol

As expected Robin should have at least heard of Vinsmoke. Probably during her time with Dragon and Brook still hiding shit.

Chopper's got a babe. Getting stiff ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°) She's pretty banging :P

Nekomamushi is lol. Never imagined him as the cute type XD Robin playing with him was cute/

Nice to know Pekomamushi (lol) was able to handle himself.

So Vinsmokes are a bunch of assassin from the underworld?? Cool!! I like that more than Noble or Tenryuubitou

I agree with Drake1000. I noticed that and it really peeked my interest
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With Sanji out it's Chopper's time for nosebleeds xD
Nekomamushi's personality lol
Zoro not giving a fuck about Sanji ^^
Assassin family...interesting.
Jan 28, 2016 6:56 AM

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family of assassins reminded me of hunter x hunter killua..

chopper got a hard on lmao
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Jan 28, 2016 6:59 AM

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I think there's more to Brook and the Vinsmokes than just the fact that he's heard of them.

But more importantly my theory is that Sanji will be in the middle of his wedding ceremony and then Zoro will bust in through the door kick Sanji's bride and Big Mam out of the way and then confess his feeling to Sanji. Then the Wedding can resume but with Sanji and Zoro.

Zoro x Sanji forever
Jan 28, 2016 7:00 AM

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Zoro will bust in through the door kick Sanji's bride and Big Mam out of the way and then confess his feeling to Sanji. Then the Wedding can resume but with Sanji and Zoro.

Zoro x Sanji forever


wtf lol..

maybe you can do a doujin for that
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Lol Chopper fall in love, priceless reaction :D
Nekomamushi, wild cat outside, domestic cat inside.. :3
Well, Zoro got a point there, facing 2 Yonkos at a near time is suicide.
Really glad Vinsmoke Family turned out to be Assassins Family, it match the name perfectly..
Also that Mink's house design looks like "Rumah Gadang" from Minangkabau, Indonesia..

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bkim999 said:
A Random Guess. Brook has been acting a bit conspicuous throughout this chapter regarding the Sanji's family. It's possible that maybe the Vinsmoke are the ones who killed Brook's crew!
Well, this is an interesting way to interpret Brook behaviour.
In post #21 , he pointed out that the Vinsmoke also observing Caesar public experiment back in PH.
Vinsmoke was the one that massacre Brook crew is plausible.
Why?
1. The cause of Brook dead is poison.
2. His behavior in this arc that show that he know about Vinsmoke family.
3. Vinsmoke is interested in poison.
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Zoro talking sense to the crew

Classic Luffy answers, Let's just go find Sanji and ask him what we need to. Like it's ever that simple xD

Chopper and that mink XD

Nekomamushi is quite the cat :P

Family of Assassin's eh, Pretty cool. Wonder what they're like.
Jan 28, 2016 7:27 AM

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I like how calm Brook is in the type of situation the crew is. He's like singing and humming his way through the exchages and BAM! he hits you with some bombshell information. I see him dropping a shocker in a chapter or two.

Zoro thinking things out tactically is great since mostly its Sanji who does the tactical stuff. Like what do they do incase the possible war with Kaidou ensues or they save Sanji or they help the Wano boys? But its reality that he misses the cook.

AND No wonder Sanji is so assassin like when he activated the escape switch at Ennies Lobby when no one noticed him leave the bridge and he was at the tower already.

I think its no secret that the Vinsmoke family had some mission at East Blue that caused them to sail coming from the North, where Law resided and the Young Mingo was making a name for himself as well.
Jan 28, 2016 7:34 AM
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LOL Chopper, glad you've found your soulmate. And too bad all those theories about him being nobles, but still someone important.
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I guessed Mafia Family at first (which in retrospect would make his 4Kids voice hilariously prophetic), but assassins work too.
Jan 28, 2016 7:42 AM

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I'll quote Sanji from chapter 813:
"I didn't think my past would have catch up on me"

HOW ABOUT A DAMN HAIRCUT? I swear this guy knows his family i searching him and he just kept the same damn hairstyle since he was a kiddo
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Jan 28, 2016 7:58 AM

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I swear this guy knows his family i searching him
I don't think it was as much of his family caring about him, than using him as the son of Vinsmoke to set up a political marriage with the Charlotte's family. Seems to be the case when he is in no position to refuse.
Edit: What I mean was that they probably wasn't actively searching for him, and he can't possibly hide forever. It's probably more of a convenient "Oh we had a son like that, good, go get him to get our plan moving".
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family of assassins reminded me of hunter x hunter killua..

chopper got a hard on lmao


To accuse Oda of ripping of HxH JUST because Sanji is from a line of assassins is really ridiculous. Next thing I'll hear from you is that Mashima ripped off Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles b/c talking ninja like reptiles/amphibians who kick ass exist in the series.

http://naruto.wikia.com/wiki/Toad
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Like, TALKING ASS KICKING HOARD OF REPTILES/AMPHIBIANS! OMG HE RIPPED OFF "EM! NOOOOOO!

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Also you can say that HxH ripped off Naruto cause HUNTER EXAMS VS CHONIN EXAMS YO!

What about HxH ripping off YuGiOh? Like, Leorio is soooooo Joey Wheeler in disguise. Like, both want to help people through medicine yo! That's enough!

That's all that's needed by your logic. A loose resemblance of ideas but execution matters null. Like, No man.
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@DarkAngelz lol calm down, he 'insulted' Oda (imo, just accused at it's best but anyway), it's not the end of the world XD
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Inori_is_love said:
I think there's more to Brook and the Vinsmokes than just the fact that he's heard of them.

But more importantly my theory is that Sanji will be in the middle of his wedding ceremony and then Zoro will bust in through the door kick Sanji's bride and Big Mam out of the way and then confess his feeling to Sanji. Then the Wedding can resume but with Sanji and Zoro.

Zoro x Sanji forever


I also found it a bit strange: I mentioned it before, at post #30, that I wildly guessed that maybe the Vinsmoke are the ones who killed Brook's crew!
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A family of assassins... I really did no expect that, I really thought all these theories of him being a noble etc were going to turn out true, but Oda just shuts them all down once again. Question now is how Big mom and the family of assassins convinced the government to place a Only Alive bounty on Sanji, really interested to see how that is explained.
Lol at Pedro in the trees and stiff Chopper.
When the Vinsmoke family was brought up we get a really interesting pic of Brook, seems like he is hiding something.

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A family of assassins... I really did no expect that, I really thought all these theories of him being a noble etc were going to turn out true, but Oda just shuts them all down once again. Question now is how Big mom and the family of assassins convinced the government to place a Only Alive bounty on Sanji, really interested to see how that is explained.

Ye, that bounty can't possibly be only because of them being an assasin's family member or that father could have a trump card and might be so good at his job that he is even able to enter marineford at will and he could have threatened to assassinate all of the nobles or smth. That's just smth I thought of after this chapter, an interesting idea I read here was that his family might be in CP-0, which I could see come true, except for the fact that considering Lucci, they probably all are freaks of absolute justice, so then being an underworld name, hmm I dunno..
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Go after that booty chopper! Looks like he finally found a reindeer girl.
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