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| Wow, what a fantastic episode! Didn't expect Oboro to show up at the end. The Gintoki tears :( |
| this episode is a masterpiece, gintama is a masterpice, this is the best anime episode i've ever watched, this is why i watch anime, this is why i love anime, this is why i am the person i am, tears came but they wouldn't fall, i love gintama. thank you hideaki sorachi. 1billion/5. |
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KevinRammstein said: I don't even want to say that here, but I just don't get why this arc is supposed to be that exciting. I have been rather bored the last couple of episodes. I seem to have outgrown Gintama unfortunately... I mean everybody loves this, really I don't want to destroy your mood here and I will just believe it is great, but for me...really not. I just don't care much for it anymore, was similar the whole season. Some comedy stuff was good but it never got me to the same enjoyment level as the very first season, ever. Really I don't understand it myself! :-( I don't really get any feelings from this either but the production values are best so far. And chances are this will forever be the best animated Gintama episode. |
| manly tears were shed during this episode and damn takasugi all that just because the dude didn't have a choice this episode was just epic |
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  No... no... Just NO! THIS HURT SO MUCH! GINTOKI!!! *cries* THIS IS JUST TOO MUCH! I don't want think what will happen next... ;( |
Tyrel said: guys, he is come from fake trailer gintama movie. he is not even canon. lOl.joa12222 said: Pretty much this. We got zero info on the guy. And the name you saw earlier is a spoiler for later on in the series.That wasn't actually his name, he was just making a spoilery joke (don't look it up). The green guy hasn't been named in the manga yet as far as I remember |
 "If taking responsibility for a mistake that cannot be undone means death, it's not that hard to die. At least, not as hard as to live on." |
| man I wasn't ready for this...truly an extremely great episode. Masterpiece. |
| I just want Takasugi and Gintoki to be happy. |
| REALLY GOOD. And I mean it as one of the few who didn't get immersed at all in the previous episode. So this is quite an achievement. It sounds crazy and absurd but this is the first time I have ever felt something for Takasugi. No, scratch that. This is actually the first time I have thought of him as a legit and worth character. And it delivered, really well. My issues with Shouyou are still there, but the way this episode described what his figure meant for Gintoki and Takasugi (and poor forgotten Katsura) was very eloquent. I wouldn't put it among the very best, but that only speaks highly of Gintama. The best episode of the arc, at least. About Oboro... well, we will see him do something. So far he is like the blandest character ever to me. But then again, so was Takasugi before this episode, so hey who knows. |
| Holy Shit, i've never seen an anime MC who don't have regenerative power or immortality be so badly beat up, that's so epic, gintama serious arc are fucking good, but this one take it even a step higher ! |
| Was so fucking shocked to see Gintoki beheads Shoyo.... One of the very best episodes of all of anime I have ever seen. This was amazingly mind-blowing. |
| Je trempe mes cookies dans tes larmes. |
| PS : Takasugi punching Gintoki was one of the most touching and heart-wrenching scenes ever. PPS : Fuck Oboro. Fuck him. |
| Je trempe mes cookies dans tes larmes. |
| The fucking tears though! I could feel Takasugi's pain when he was punching Gintoki :[ And Gintokiiii; I can't imagine the pain he felt when he had to kill sensei; someone like a father to him. When he was crying :( :( my poor baby! Please don't be dead Takasugi, pleaseeeeeee! I knew you were good deep down. I hope this bitch ass dude Oboro isn't related to Gintoki :/ |
| How the hell does this episode not have 100% 5/5s! My eyes were watering throughout the entire episode. I've never felt this much emotion from an anime episode in it's entirety. Probably the best anime episode I've ever seen. Gintoki.. Takasugi... I have no words Please Takasugi don't be dead. I really want to see Gintoki and Takasugi fighting on the same side. |
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Theusis3 said: Though Gintoki was going to break one of his promises, so he kept the one he thought was best. I feel for both Gintoki and Takasugi. Takasugi didn't know about Gintoki's promise to Shoyo, but also couldn't understand Gintoki's choice. The one person they wanted to protect, the one thing that meant the world to them, was the one they chose to sacrifice in order to survive. Takasugi just had so much self hatred at his own weakness more than anything that caused the death of Shoyo. Gintoki understood Takasugi and wanted to save him, by allowing himself to become Takasugi's target so to speak, so that Takasugi would survive and have a meaning to continue living, after losing everything. Gintoki bore that crest, so long as he lives, Takasugi would live too. Gintoki understood that Takasugi was on a two way path of either self-destruction, or destruction of his alter ego, due to his character and hatred. Takasugi couldn't forgive himself, so he took out his hatred upon Gintoki and the world, he probably understood that Gintoki let himself be his target and took on the task. While Gintoki had suffered some mental scarring being the one who had to kill his teacher, Shoyo, but he continues to keep his promise to his teacher. The reason Gintoki has been able to keep going all this time. Takasugi was right in a sense that their paths (Gintoki, Katsura, and Takasugi himself) diverged from the start when they entered the school. They had different motivations. Their personalities at times seem straightforward yet also complex at other times, this shows they're just human beings. Really great post! This was such a painful episode. Takasugi and Gintoki's thoughts and the internal turmoil caused by the death of their teacher is such a complex topic. I could be interpreting this wrong, but I felt that it was implied that they both made each other their "goals" because they felt that the ones who killed Shouyou-sensei was both of them, due to their weakness. Which is why they fight against each other. But Takasugi also chose to seek revenge on the real people responsible for what led to Shouyou's death. After all, Takasugi understood Gintoki's pain and knew that the choice Gintoki made was to bear the cross. He knew that of all people, Gintoki would be the one who wanted to save Shouyou the most, yet he didn't. Instead he saved his two friends and Shouyou's disciples, because that's what Shoyou loved. It really sucks, this is the perfect scenario to exemplify why the survivors have it worse because of the suffering they go through after losing someone important to them. |
| best fight of the year... until i get heavy spoiler later episode from some trolling.. |
abgJan 13, 2016 4:36 PM
| This episode is the culmination of everything Gintoki is... the happy go lucky guy we know has been carrying a heavy burden all his life... Can't stop my manly tears flowing... |
| 5/5 Pacing, music, plot, characters development even art were very good only animation still is average. |
| that was some heavy shit holy crap top it all of Oboro back from the grave! know what really makes me sad if this is the end of Takasugi how things could have changed if he wasn't so stubborn and didn't go down the path he chose we wouldn't be where we are now ! ;-; |
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| Dear lord, being Gintoki sure suck. He's a freaking walking Reaper. Cutting the head of the one you belove the most... That's some ISIS shit. Naraku faction is literally ISIS. Seriously though, Takasugi has lost his way :( He has been following his master ideal, to overthrow the shogunate, even though it was meaningless at the present time. He just ended up offering the whole country to his true nemesis. It sure suck to be Takasugi too :| Gintama never cease to surprise me. I honestly didn't thought they would advance in the story. I thought they would find a way to troll us again. But I believe this is finally the time where we're at a crossroad. Pls, don't end Gintama :( |
| «Time is passing so quickly. Right now, I feel like complaining to Einstein. Whether time is slow or fast depends on perception. Relativity theory is so romantic. And so sad.» - Kurisu Makise a.k.a. The Zombie |
| This episode was just the embodiment of sadness. There were many moments which I think the studio deserve an appreciation post for. Gintoki's sad smile before executing Shouyou was very impactful, especially Takasugi's bloodcurdling scream afterwards. He was literally everything to them, he gave them so much to live for and to have that taken away from you right before your eyes is traumatizing. Gintoki has all of my respect, like Katsura said, the one who should hate this world more than anyone else and want to destroy everything is him, yet he doesn't. He's strong enough to walk a different path. He had to carry the burden of killing Shouyou and the guilt of being unable to protect his comrades and yet doesn't let it consume him like it did to Takasugi. I think that the Yorozuya are the ones that lifted him in that kind of sense, it gave Gintoki back some of the humanity and bonds that he lost which is so precious. Though I do wish they could of incorporated the self-mocking smile Gintoki had while facing Takasugi - that moment in the manga was really powerful. But otherwise, can't wait for the FS Arc and Kamui/Kagura action! |
Punk434says said: Joy4ever said: Rolfmao! If you actually deduce that, then it is beyond bewildering why Lelouch is in your favorites.yeah, Takasugi is just a child who refuses to grow up... what? they're not the same bro, what Lelouch did at the end of R2 was pretty amazing |
“The greatest crimes in the world are not committed by people breaking the rules but by people following the rules. It's people who follow orders that drop bombs and massacre villages.” -Bansky  |
Joy4ever said: Punk434says said: Rolfmao! If you actually deduce that, then it is beyond bewildering why Lelouch is in your favorites. what? they're not the same bro, what Lelouch did at the end of R2 was pretty amazing it is true but he (Lelouch) has a weak physical and see what happens in the last episode ,, he is so incompetent to protect themselves let alone others.. in the end a teenager (fake Zero) defeat all the robots and soldiers.. again a child to save the world This is not Rambo Sylvester Stallone.. lol he so different with Takasugi.. |
gembelelaJan 13, 2016 10:11 PM
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gembelela said: Joy4ever said: what? they're not the same bro, what Lelouch did at the end of R2 was pretty amazing it is true but he (Lelouch) has a weak physical and see what happens in the last episode ,, he is so incompetent to protect themselves let alone others.. in the end a teenager (fake Zero) defeat all the robots and soldiers.. again a child to save the world This is not Rambo Sylvester Stallone.. lol he so different with Takasugi.. ahaha okay, but still better than what takasugi have done though |
| “The greatest crimes in the world are not committed by people breaking the rules but by people following the rules. It's people who follow orders that drop bombs and massacre villages.” -Bansky |
| AHHHHHHHHHHH EHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH Gintoki, Takasugi, Katsura, SHOYO SENSEI AHHHHHH EHHHHHHHHH </3 T______________T |
OkitaSadist said: Pretty much. The first time we see Gintoki post killing Shoyo when he gets arrested, he is using a bokuto.Maybe this is the reason Gintoki won't use real sword. It must be too "heavy" or traumatizing for hi to use a real blade again(except for some enemies). |
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OkitaSadist said: Remember Shinigami arc anyone? Asaemon beheading his father/sensei? Gintoki helping her in that arc. That must be torture to him huh. Yes this was also pretty good foreshadowing, just look at some of Gintoki's reactions in that arc. It was airing in the anime after I had just caught up with the manga and it was just painful with that knowledge. Looking back on the entirety of Gintama, for me atleast, every smile or tear we shared with Gintoki just got a lot more meaningful after this revelation now. To think that this damn Gorilla planned and knew it all along... |
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| so many foreshadows had been shown in the past since the Benizakura arc, OMG, just watched them lately and wow AMAZING! again, Sorachi sure is a god |
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| YISS! Fantastic as hell fight! Finally we know their past in detail now. The adaptation's been going so well! <3 |
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| is it just me or that Oboro guy always shows up when Gintoki is severely injured? Bastard must've been biding his time on the sidelines, this is the perfect opportunity to introduce Katsura to help them alas i highly doubt he'll show up at this point though |
DarthSomebody said: Strait 5/7. Perfect score. Brendan, please... |
Freestyle80 said: is it just me or that Oboro guy always shows up when Gintoki is severely injured? Bastard must've been biding his time on the sidelines, this is the perfect opportunity to introduce Katsura to help them alas i highly doubt he'll show up at this point though Well Im sure Oboro wouldnt want to get owned again so yeah he waited for the right time lol. |
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| Amazing how much a single episode can show you new things about a character of a show you've been watching for so many years. Though I do wonder how a full fight without all the flash backs would looked. |
| This arc is probably the best arc in the whole gintama anime. Especially this episode was top notch, Animation, Soundtrack, Voice Acting, everything was awesome. The battle between Takasugi and Gin was simply intense, we rarely see such good fights in animes nowadays. The moment Takasugi seeing Gin killing Shoyo-sensei and crying gave me goosebumps. Who else thought about Berserk when Takasugi lost his eyesight and the last thing he sees is his beloved one dying ? A question though, what was with the movie that was announced years ago of Gins past, it also showed Takasugi lost his eye (not by a thrown broken sword piece but was cutted by one of the crows ?) |
LastIllusion said: A question though, what was with the movie that was announced years ago of Gins past, it also showed Takasugi lost his eye (not by a thrown broken sword piece but was cutted by one of the crows ?) Fake trailer, they literally said they were just trolling you right after the trailer on that episode. |
SacredFactor said: The funniest thing about that is, they showed that fake scene in the edited OP.LastIllusion said: A question though, what was with the movie that was announced years ago of Gins past, it also showed Takasugi lost his eye (not by a thrown broken sword piece but was cutted by one of the crows ?) Fake trailer, they literally said they were just trolling you right after the trailer on that episode. |
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| Holy shit...Gin's ultimatum...felt bad for him, both Shoyou and Takasugi were making Gin promise to protect the other, and in the end, could only keep one of them. That burden... Oboro, you son of a bitch!! Hope Zura comes in and kicks his ass, now that Takasugi is out of commission and Gin is well, half dead. Kagura vs Kamui next ep! can't wait. |
| This was probably the highest point the show has been at, the way they managed to flesh takasugi's character out in just this one episode is quite the achievement and the way it plays off expectations to deliver a genuinely surprising twist that really explains alot of motivations was really well handled. I dont want takausgi to die now but its not looking too well for him now, Ideally i'd want takasugi to somehow make it through this and the final fight of the series could be takasugi, gintoki, and katsura finally getting to kill that fucker oboro. |
Immahnoob said: Jizzy, I know you have no idea how to argue for shit, tokiyashiro said: Jizzy as you would call yourself because youre a dick The most butthurt award goes to you And clearly you havent watched that many shows thats why you cant determine if a show is unique or not Or maybe you're just a child who likes common stuffs where hero saves the day and guys gets all the girls. Sad taste you have there kid you came up to me in the first place making you look more like a kid who got slapped without me even knowing it and start crying about it to me |
| As usual, AMAZING EPISODE! And scumbag Oboro appears at the end~ |
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| After nearly 24 minutes of non-stop crying I really don't have much to say... Sorachi, you motherfucker, how can you make me fall in love with Gintama this many times?? Brb rewatching all of Gintama and crying each time I see a foreshadow |
| That actually took me by surprise, I never thought it happened that way before we started to get hints the last episode. I am interested to see why Oboro's group has crawled out of the woodwork. |
| "Let Justice Be Done!" My Theme Fight again, fight again for justice! |
| for the first time in my life I cry through an episode from the beginning to the very end. And I continued crying for 30 minutes more. This was the saddest Gintama episode and for Gintoki to kill hid teacher T_T. I remember I saw that Oboro before and I remember they killed him like twice but I can't remember what his job was, what is his purpose. Takasugi's actions are justified fr me now |
If you are going to disagree with me, don't bother talking to me. I will seriously hurt you! |
| Gin-san cares a lot more for Shoyo's students than Takasugi realizes. I believe Gintoki loved Shoyo more than Takasugi did and beheading him was the most difficult thing he has ever done. Apparently, Gin-san knows something about Shoyo that Takasugi doesn't and wanted to protect him, maybe beheading him was the choice that he knew even Shoyo would only approve of. If Gin-san killed Katsura and Takasugi, Shoyo would have never forgiven him. Shoyo gladly died for his students but Takasugi is too selfish to realize that, one more reason to hate him. It's so hard to feel sorry for him and Kamui. I like Kamui as a character, he's one of my faves but I have a hard time feeling sorry for him too. |
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