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| THIS IS AN ANIME ONLY DISCUSSION POST. DO NOT DISCUSS THE MANGA BEYOND THIS EPISODE. ---------------------------------------- Wow, just wow. One of the greatest episodes in OP. Robin and Olvia reunion..So touching! Also the moment when the rottenness of the World Government is revealed. Damn them! |
| Robin and Olvia finaly meet again! That's cool. The World Government is a pain.. |
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| ROBIN CHWAAAAAAN! *sniff* manly tears *sniff* |
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| Damn, they just got to meet each other, when Robin had to be taken away from her mother. :/ And interesting past of Saulo. |
Life is really simple, but we insist on making it complicated.~ |
| They dropped the bomb (baby) ...usually thats in reference to bad stories or plot twists or spoilers but this one is . And wow noone really commented on this episode. I thought it was rather huge. in all seriousness, i can relate to most of that RL stuff they were talkin about, living w/ my grandparents till i was 9, not knowing who my dad is, etc) Kind of hits home when you watch from the sidlines. I bawwed a bit, maybe more than i thought i would but this has more emotional attachment to me for some reason. The best arc of the whol 270+ episodes ive seen. Definitely worth an hour long finale. Lol Saulo got like 10 minutes of bacstory but it meant ALOT. This arc definitely tugs at the heartstrings. Definitely need more of these kind of stories instead of some stupid sporting event on a long animal island. Not more in emo sad death stories but more in the action pack what the hell is going to happen next kind of stories. I was on the edge of my seat ever since this mini arc started. I cant really say that to any of the other episodes so far. Even the sky island wasnt as good as this. DereshishiDereshishiDereshishiDereshishiDereshishiDereshishiDereshishiDereshishi |
RanivusFeb 15, 2010 9:02 PM
  "What happens when we die?" I know that the ones who love us will miss us. |
| *sigh* What a great man Saulo is.. Well he's got the Will of D. so.... xD i have no idea. :l 4/5 |
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| geebus, what an amazing episode, really strong directing. and so much going on, my gawd, and right when Clover was about to say the name of the missing country. and then Sengoku. and then Kuzan. this show makes me too emotional. |
| Just... WOW. I can't begin to describe how amazing this mini arc was. Robins past was one of the most emotional and tragic story lines ive seen in one piece. This is truly where this series just shines. The back stories never cease to amaze me on every level and this one was no exception. though i loved all the back stories of the characters. I would have to say this one is probably my most favorite. Because it actually centers around the central story and history of one piece, as well as tell a tragic story of robins horrible past. Truly amazing ODA, you are just a GOD! Such a cute and adorable girl doesn't deserve to live a life of such solitude. "This so called "justice" they talk bout is a load of shit". That is my quote, reference from black beard if you catch my drift. I am really beginning to think the world government are a shady organization that is hiding something and when people get close to the answer such as the people of oharo who claimed to know to much history involved with the poneglyphs and the void century. Suddenly they take extreme actions to erase any sort of evidence. Sure they say its for the purpose of other organizations or countries that might get there hands on a powerful weapon and might tip the world out of balance. But i think thats bull shit. I think the real enimes in this conspiracy are the Gorusei and they are just covering something up. It was proved the moment that professor was shot because he found out a little to much information. This back story truly tells you how horrible the marines and the world goverment really are and what there capable of. Now at last they reveal why robin has this "darkness" in her heart that will eventually destroy anyone around her. Because the world government puts her as a threat to the world, what ever is inscribed in those poneglphys is something that is so secret, that the world government will take any action what so ever to eliminate the possibility of anyone getting there hands on the information. At last luffy has finnaly reached her and the conclusion to this was just brilliant and she now has a meaning to live. Im really interested in how this whole story will unfold now. Honestly this is really what i love bout OP, the action and the fights are ok, even though some times they can be dragged out. What really intrigues me though are these deep back stories. |
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| Robin is now another favorite character of mine after seeing her past :'-( such a tragic past she had.. the world government is utterly cruel! so much murder and heinous crime against people :-( |
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| Obviously, these EPICsodes (277-278) was made to force us to cry... and it did the job.. many times T_T I don't want One Piece to finish airing .. never :( |
| Kind of obvious how the World Government are just corrupted old crooks. Well, the higher ranked old geezers atleast, because there are the really good Marines like Smoker and Saulo and others weve seen. But overall there is something fishy going on in the World Government |
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| ROBIN'S PAST WRECKED ME. like her confrontation with her mother, when she started with "my name's robin, i've grown a lot," that's when i started breaking down. the whole background arc might just be the saddest words i've ever seen come out of an anime kid's mouth. it's amplified by how tragic and adorable robin is in general. what. |
| it's just like real life fuck the government |
| So the world government are evil...taking justice to cover up themselves. And cheating the real good people into joining them. |
| robins story is pretty sad indeed, and saolo is pretty cool. |
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| Perfect... |
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| Seriously a tear jerker episode, the anime presented it just as welll as the manga did! Robins past is so tragic. The thing I love about One Piece is the characterization, it is so easy to become attached to characters in the series! |
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| what got me really emotional was the mother-daughter bonding going on here. seeing how they could finally meet after so long but have to abruptly separate forever... it broke my heart. robin's past is definitely heart breaking and was amazingly well written. ps world government is a bunch of bozos |
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neenalie said: ROBIN'S PAST WRECKED ME. like her confrontation with her mother, when she started with "my name's robin, i've grown a lot," that's when i started breaking down. the whole background arc might just be the saddest words i've ever seen come out of an anime kid's mouth. it's amplified by how tragic and adorable robin is in general. what. AGREE WITH YOU 100% OH MY GOD the whole mother daughter scene made me cry really hard, probably since it's touched with me personally :( |
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| This backstory has been freaking great so far, it was so sad seeing Robin meet her mother for the first time in years, only to have to part ways so quickly... |
| Such a sad past... T___T So Saulo is Luffy's grandfather????????????? O_O A giant and a vice admiral? Well that explains why Ace is strong!!! |
| Poor Robin-chwan :( |
If you don't like me, acquire some taste |
| first op episode to make me cry... poor bb robin ;~; |
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| How about someday we have a Straw Hat who has lived a decent life? Just to shake things up? |
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TechDragon said: Robin and Olvia finaly meet again! That's cool. The World Government is a pain.. I hope they will reveal the story about it somewhat soon D: But I doubt it -.- |
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| Wow that's one hell of a hypothesis.. the World Government is the true enemy and are elimating all who would prove them fraudulous and guilty. Sounds like real life politics to me. Go Saul! |
| I'm Bruneian and I like anime. And Manchester United. And fat cats. |
| I'm still crying as I'm typing this. I'm such a damn baby! ;-; Who knew Robin had such a tough time?? I know all the straw hats have had their moments of sadness, but Robin's past is definitely the saddest so far- even worse than Nami's. At least Nami was fighting to protect something all those years she dealt with Arlong...Robin lost absolutely everything and her homeland was pretty much blown into oblivion. Her life wasn't exactly great before that point either, with her not knowing her parents, basically being neglected by her adopted family and bullied by everyone aside from the Scholars. No wonder she lost the will to live...which is even worse because her mother goes out wanting the exact opposite of that. That scene where she was asking Olvia if she was her mother was so touching tho. |
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| Sure, Nami’s backstory is sad, but I think Robin has taken the most tragic backstory of any main character in One Piece. I had a bag full of tissues near the end. I do admit the first episode felt crammed full of too much information with too little characterizing but after that it got and stayed good. And, on top of the tearjerking, it was probably one of the most meaningful events in terms of the overall story in all 277 episodes going forward. To make my last episodes comparison to the whole Tom and Spandam | Clover and Spandine example more clear, Spandine said almost this exact line this episode: "all it takes is for someone to come along and use your [research/ship] therefore it is evil" The line clearly showing that line of thinking that Tom and now Franky have tried to counter in the story. I hadn't given much thought to the poneglyphs and the story around them. It was partly because they have been such a tiny part of the overall story that it was even hard to comprehend them. However, I am slightly disappointed that I hadn't given them enough thought at all to realize even their purpose. They are not contrived stones made purely to produce a giant powerful weapon when put together, instead, they are a way of people who have been long forgotten(not totally unlike the Ohara people now) to spread the truths and warnings that they learned over their time on the planet. They have a history that they think is incredibly important to understand and they want it passed on. This knowledge alone is already a big plot point we can finally say is true justifiably. The other part regarding this is what Clover deducted in that really cool scene where he spoke to the high ups in the world government about how they erased a grand kingdom from the map and took control. The world government was once possibly outright the villains here and this history that this "grand kingdom" wants to spread and warn people of is being purposefully hidden by the world government. Thinking of it this way it seems to bring a huge problem into the mix. Why would the world government bent on avoiding this history and destroying all who could decipher poneglyphs now want to decipher them to use them? There has been a large shift in their goal here and I'm worried that perhaps something that this "grand kingdom" predicted and warned this world of may be a bigger threat now than they ever thought, so they want to use the ancient weapon, not to control the pirates in the world, but because of something even bigger and scarier. Regardless of if this is true, I am very excited for the day the Straw Hats expose the world government and fight alongside Smoker as best pals, not weird pseudo friend-rivals. Two fascinating things about this for me are: 1. This perpetuates this pretty constant theme in One Piece of winners writing and erasing history. Noland is the obvious example, a great hero who was forgotten and written as a fool for all of the world to know him. However, another example is Tom, another great man who made a life-changing and saving device who was framed, called a ferocious evil fishman, and from then on went somewhat forgotten and considered as such by people like CP9 who never met him. In both these cases, someone was unfairly treated and slandered by the winner's authority. And now we have both this "grand kingdom" and Ohara being burned to a crisp and shoved aside because they could be a threat to the current winner. A good case that was seen was actually of the Shandians as they kept their ancestor's history intact and cherished whereas it's something that Robin seems like she's attempting to do as well. It's a pretty constant theme and it's interesting, this battle of keeping history in mind for both it's good and bad sides and not erasing or avoiding, but rather using it to accept the past and avoid further tragedies, and to maintain respect on those figures that have been long forgotten otherwise. 2. The other thing was I thought the head world government man on the phone was absolutely fascinating. All the old men with beards in charge are all pretty calm and collected people. They don't seem 1 dimensionally evil like most of the evil navy guys. They seem at face value to be more akin to Smoker, aka being fleshed out in their motives and actions. To see him seemingly regretfully order all of them to be killed was somewhat shocking. Lucci and Spandine and those who preach an act is just as long as the end justifies the means don't seem as serious as the man on the phone was about it. He seems to sincerely feel like actions such as massacring an island are a necessary evil that he wanted to avoid and because of it I'm quite interested. Yes, the Robin and Olivia scene was one of the saddest things in the world, but since it's the main thing everyone's commented on I'll just agree and say it seriously tugged on my heartstrings. Seeing her plead out, crying, to her mother who's trying so hard not to put her in the governments eyes was actually very similar to how Robin acts towards the Straw Hats. Both actively pushed away their loved ones as to not attach them to such a criminal that they themselves are. It's a loving separation out of concern for their safety that neither Olivia or in the modern day Robin wants to do. The line that hit me the most was "I'm Robin! I've grown a lot but if you don't remember me I've been waiting for you to return all this time!". The tension was so miserable. You knew how much it hurt both of them. So to, if only once, hold hands and embrace in a sea of smoke is something especially meaningful... Even with the boring scholars, at least Olivia, Saul, Spandine, and Clover all stand out as great characters, all paired with a seriously meaningful reveal for nearly every overarching plot element means that I think this is probably the best backstory so far. |
| That hypothesis about The World Government being a tyranny formed by the enemies of those who made the Poneglyphs was an world-level informational bombshell. I knew that the WG's a despotic organization that seeks to use the power of the ancient weapons themselves but the context behind all of their actions made my jaw drop. Jaguar D. Saul being a former Vice Admiral that saved Olvia's life and Robin's life later on was an unexpected but impressive. He was willing to throw away his powerful position to abide by his morals even if it meant questioning the shady actions of the World Government. Massive respect. It's tragic that the only time Olvia and Robin was able to have a decent mother-daughter moment was when everything started to fall apart around them. |
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| 'The past belongs to ALL of mankind. Nobody has any right to try and stop the desire to know the untold history. Whatever the past may be, as long as it's history crafted by the hands of mankind, we have the responsibility to accept it all.' |
| "He's stronger than he ever was, but he looks like he hasn't changed a bit. I didn't know sitting still for such a long time could do that for ya." |
| It was poignant to see the scholars doing their best to recover the books. Robin has such a tragic past. I'm amazed she survived through this without losing her mind! |
 She got him back. If you understand the characters well enough, you'd know she did! |
| Don't cry little Robin. Your mom is great. Saul being a true friend. |
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| Damn, Oda went from trying his hardest not to kill any character, even when it came out as absolute BS... to kill hundreds and burn down a whole island. |
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| To be honest now I think I’m more interested in the history of the polygraph than the one piece but again they both might be connected somehow and when the old man with the green clover hairstyle was talking about his theory the other old guy on the other end of the phone was like he knows to much kill them all that moment was eye opening |
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| The saddest episode ever of One Piece so far T_T. Right next to Chopper's. |
| JUST FUCKING GET ON WITH IT ALREADY HOLY SHIT I DON'T CARE i might have cared 40 episodes ago but this is just a load of shit and the mangaka and the studio should be drawn and quartered in public for this nonsense |
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| Robin's past was so unfathomably sad. it's easy to see why she turned out the way she did, she still hasn't healed, maybe she never can |
| TRASH WORLD GOVERNMENT!! the more and more i watched One Piece, i can't trust Government in real life anymore. |
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| Robin and Olvia were so cute </3 |
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StateofOhayo said: JUST FUCKING GET ON WITH IT ALREADY HOLY SHIT I DON'T CARE i might have cared 40 episodes ago but this is just a load of shit and the mangaka and the studio should be drawn and quartered in public for this nonsense No one is forcing you to watch this show |
bingamu85Jul 15, 2023 12:58 PM
| That hypothesis from the professor regarding the blank century was simply jaw dropping. It all makes perfect sense. I’m glad Robin got to see her Mum again if only briefly. For a minute I thought they’d part without Olvia even acknowledging her. Saul is awesome. I hope he manages to make it off the Island safely. |
| Always these back stories get me crying like a bitch lmao. omg the story telling in this anime is amazing. i couldn't take it. paused it 3x watching it. T_T |
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