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Oct 25, 2015 3:08 PM

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Wow, what the hell? This was definitely an above average episode, which is why it caught me so off-guard. True, the MC prevailing over the weak bully character via nakama power is annoying and cliche, but Stella yelling across the stadium and the badass way that he won saved the scene.

Then there was a confession. In an anime. In episode 4. In which the MC isn't a brain-dead wuss. All that was left was for the recipient to not be a tsundere, and this would have been perfect. I didn't really understand whether or not she accepted it or if she even likes him back, but whatever.

Sorry, people..:

5/5
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Oct 25, 2015 3:10 PM

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Anarchi4 said:
I don't need to read the LN to analyze the anime, and the show's basis are totally generic, it could get better but so far it's not a good anime.


Just to be clear on this: I disagree with most of the content of your review, but I respect that this is your _personal opinion_. No problem with that. Then again, I hope that you will agree that your opinion based on nothing more than 4 episodes of anime is hardly something the Worthless Weenie Whiners can realistically take as evidence that the show as such sucks.

So, I have no problem at all with anime fans who watch a show and don't like it for whatever reason. What I do dislike is a bunch of arrogant pricks constantly jumping into anime threads just to insult those people who actually enjoy these shows. And if the same people do that for 95% of all shows (like in the case of the WWWs), they will have to live with getting called out for it. After all, who is the greater fool? The fool or those ones following the fool knowing that it is a fool?

By the objective numbers (ratings of aggregated viewers everywhere), the show is extremely well-received with its fanbase, and - in my opinion - for very good reason. But you're perfectly entitled to disagree.
Oct 25, 2015 3:22 PM

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Maledict said:
All that was left was for the recipient to not be a tsundere, and this would have been perfect. I didn't really understand whether or not she accepted it or if she even likes him back, but whatever.


Uh, she clearly indicated she likes him back after kissing him and declaring she wanted to be honest. He asked as much and she nodded!

I think you're covered, man ;P
Oct 25, 2015 4:10 PM
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So... Alicia was gay, saw Stella naked, and now he might not be gay after all. Seems like he might have a thing for Ikki's sister. Well, seems like a anime/LN that might play a lot on humiliation and possible molestation of Stella in the future. What the heck was up with the stripping scene anyway? She went completely nuts when Ikki saw her underwear, and then suddenly she was flashing it for a lot of people without a care in the world. She sure as heck were in no hurry getting dressed even when getting clothes.
Oct 25, 2015 4:32 PM

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Edit: Also, looking at your review, how are you adjusting individual ratings based on others? That's a terrible method. If the art is fantastic, you give it a fantastic score, you don't drop that one because other components (story/characters) are lower. That just screams of bias and an agenda.


Absolutely no, no no no, you should never be rating an anime highly just because it looks nice, Guilty Crown looks lovely in a fair few scenes and that's one of the worst anime in recent times.

No problem with that. Then again, I hope that you will agree that your opinion based on nothing more than 4 episodes of anime is hardly something the Worthless Weenie Whiners can realistically take as evidence that the show as such sucks.


Look man, this show/ln is literally ripping off the worst story in the medium, mahouka, even MAL points out it's glaring similarities, with the author thinking that's a good place to look, theres no way it's going anywhere good

Oh and mine and nid's first posts here weren't directed at anyone in this thread, but you were quick to dismiss them with your funny acronym, so don't start pretending to be above bias
Oct 25, 2015 4:34 PM
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This episode impressed me. The battle between Ikki and Kirihara was animated very well, and was awesome all around.

And that love confession! God, that scene was perfect. I've been waiting for a series like this for a while. Glad I picked this show back up again.
Oct 25, 2015 5:18 PM

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Can we just stop with this silly pointless personal attack?
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Oct 25, 2015 5:24 PM

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So ikki basically has a sharingan?
Oct 25, 2015 5:40 PM
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vasplar said:
So ikki basically has a sharingan?


Just powerful insight.
Oct 25, 2015 6:50 PM

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Reialgo said:
Edit: Also, looking at your review, how are you adjusting individual ratings based on others? That's a terrible method. If the art is fantastic, you give it a fantastic score, you don't drop that one because other components (story/characters) are lower. That just screams of bias and an agenda.


Absolutely no, no no no, you should never be rating an anime highly just because it looks nice, Guilty Crown looks lovely in a fair few scenes and that's one of the worst anime in recent times.


That isn't what I said. I said that when you are rating an anime based on numerous criteria (story, characters, art, sound, enjoyment), that all of those criteria should be rated independently. The overall score is an aggregate of those criteria. User Anarchi4 was just arbitrarily deciding to lower the art score (which he admitted should have been like an 8 or 9 out of 10) just because the rest of the scores were lower, so that he would artificially lower his overall score for the show. That's pushing an agenda, not objectively rating something.

If an anime has 9/10 art, you rate the art 9/10, end of story. That doesn't mean the overall score is 9, but the art is.

Also the idea that an anime can't be good based on a single out-standing aspect of it is also silly. People loving Redline purely because of its aesthetics is a perfect example. Or Spice and Wolf, which is basically only loved because of its character interaction and little else.
RealityRushOct 26, 2015 5:47 AM
Oct 25, 2015 7:29 PM
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Geez, Alice is a guy right? So if he's in the girls changing room wouldn't Stella (who just came out of the shower) scream and attack Alice for seeing her naked, even though Shizuku is there as well?

Looks like the loud mouth sempai got owned by an F.
Oct 25, 2015 7:32 PM

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this episode was cool and romantic. :)

congrats for being a couple, Ikki and Stella.

Oct 25, 2015 7:34 PM

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RealityRush said:
Maledict said:
All that was left was for the recipient to not be a tsundere, and this would have been perfect. I didn't really understand whether or not she accepted it or if she even likes him back, but whatever.


Uh, she clearly indicated she likes him back after kissing him and declaring she wanted to be honest. He asked as much and she nodded!

I think you're covered, man ;P


Oct 25, 2015 8:19 PM

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Maledict said:
True, the MC prevailing over the weak bully character via nakama power is annoying and cliche, but Stella yelling across the stadium and the badass way that he won saved the scene.
5/5


If Ikki wasn't so nervous, he probably would've defeated Kirihara right at the start.

For all his work to be denied by everyone, and dragging Stella down along with it, even for Ikki is too much to bear.

Stella's words aren't nakama power, it was because when everybody was denying his existence and he was on the brink of giving up, a prodigy like Stella is saying she likes the way he lives. Before the fight he thought "if I lose this battle, all my hardwork would mean nothing", but only now he realized that that was wrong, because someone even as talented as Stella acknowledges the path he walked. Stella's words was able to sooth Ikki and bring Ikki back to his normal state. In that instant all the fear and nervousness were pushed away, which allowed Ikki to utilize perfect vision to defeat Kirihara. It's not a wonder Ikki would confess to Stella right after that.



The real enemy in this episode isn't Kirihara but Ikki himself, fighting his own fear and doubts, Kirihara is nothing but a step stone for Ikki to reconfirm his own path.
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Oct 25, 2015 9:11 PM

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Kind of wish that Ikki killed Kirihara. Matsuoka's voices can be so goddamn annoying sometimes. Now I hope that Kirihara never makes another appearance. It seems that fucking Matsuoka's pointless characters always come back when they don't move the plot in any way. I don't hate the guy, but god damn, I wish they stopped making him do those disgusting screams. Just keep with the normal voices like in Shokugeki and Aoharu. :U

Anyways, raging aside, was also kind of hoping Stella would light the whole arena on fire in rage, lol. Not burn the peopl,e but you know, let out a fiery explosion to shut everyone up. 8D
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Oct 25, 2015 10:09 PM

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Xenocrisi said:
thebrentinator24 said:

This.

+1, cliche af
thebrentinator24 said:


Same singer.

It reminds me of Rozen Maiden (2013) OP

It reminds me of Another's OP. Hmmm... :P
Oct 25, 2015 10:33 PM
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>> MC getting wrecked
>>MC gets told whats up by his woman (cliche +1)
>>MC punches himself (so damn cliche +3)
>>MC finally realizes he can do something other than taking hits
>>MC defeats enemy.

Honestly apart from 2 and 3, everything is fine by me. As if having to watch him get insulted and raped with arrows was not enough, they just had to throw in that cliched shit. Also what kinda fool takes several arrows and still leaves his enemy untouched in the end. SHIT i would've taken a limb or two so he can never use a bow and arrow again. Had the chance to show up a bully but went the pacifist route. The F is this soft hearted crap. The anime is basically saying that the MC is just a pin cushion or punch bag for everyone else. That fight was any BUT satisfying. Shit with his speed i bet he could have finished him off cloakfag before he activated the damn cloak ability. Its ok to spill as much blood as possible, just has to belong to MC
Oct 25, 2015 10:39 PM

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Dang those kids are all assholes, I think Stella should have said, "make fun of him and I'll burn you to ashes!". Also, if Kirihara was going to kill Ikki, kinda would have made more sense for Ikki to severly injure him, I don't think it would have made sense for him to kill Kirihara, but stopping the blade right in front of his nose was a bit underwhelming.
Oct 25, 2015 10:59 PM

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Reialgo said:
Edit: Also, looking at your review, how are you adjusting individual ratings based on others? That's a terrible method. If the art is fantastic, you give it a fantastic score, you don't drop that one because other components (story/characters) are lower. That just screams of bias and an agenda.


Absolutely no, no no no, you should never be rating an anime highly just because it looks nice, Guilty Crown looks lovely in a fair few scenes and that's one of the worst anime in recent times.
Lots of personal opinions you have there...I do hope you understand those are not facts but your own feelings...
Oct 26, 2015 12:49 AM

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Maledict said:
Then there was a confession. In an anime. In episode 4. In which the MC isn't a brain-dead wuss. All that was left was for the recipient to not be a tsundere, and this would have been perfect. I didn't really understand whether or not she accepted it or if she even likes him back, but whatever.


Nah. If you think the episode was a 5/5 even after being confused then you need to read the manga because that part was incredibly sweet when Stella nods her head to say yes to Ikki's confession and says "So I am your first sweetheart?". Her smile that followed as she said "I am so glad!" was just too much. No wonder why Ikki couldn't hold it anymore and hugged her right there and then.
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Oct 26, 2015 12:53 AM

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Eh, I'm still not sure if I liked the fight or not, it was average at best. The villain and the crowd was cringe-inducing though.

Refreshing to see MC confessing to the girl, it generally doesn't happen most of the time in other Romance-School setting anime.

Well...3/5.

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Thank god this show didn't turn out to be another shitty harem series.

Not shitty but middle of the road average.
Exactly, it ain't that bad as the haters make it out to be. It's just, outright mediocre/average. It's still watchable and does things right when it comes to romance. Unlike another show called Asterisk.
Oct 26, 2015 1:41 AM

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Stella won within 1/4th of the series.
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Oct 26, 2015 2:36 AM

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FUCKIN AWESOME BADASS LUCKY BASTAAARRRDD
Oct 26, 2015 5:52 AM

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shanimebib said:
Maledict said:
Then there was a confession. In an anime. In episode 4. In which the MC isn't a brain-dead wuss. All that was left was for the recipient to not be a tsundere, and this would have been perfect. I didn't really understand whether or not she accepted it or if she even likes him back, but whatever.


Nah. If you think the episode was a 5/5 even after being confused then you need to read the manga because that part was incredibly sweet when Stella nods her head to say yes to Ikki's confession and says "So I am your first sweetheart?". Her smile that followed as she said "I am so glad!" was just too much. No wonder why Ikki couldn't hold it anymore and hugged her right there and then.


Eh, I just looked up the manga version of that scene, and I think Silver Link did a better job with the anime. Sometimes less is more.

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Eh, I'm still not sure if I liked the fight or not, it was average at best. The villain and the crowd was cringe-inducing though.

Refreshing to see MC confessing to the girl, it generally doesn't happen most of the time in other Romance-School setting anime.

Well...3/5.

CrowdFavorite said:

Not shitty but middle of the road average.
Exactly, it ain't that bad as the haters make it out to be. It's just, outright mediocre/average. It's still watchable and does things right when it comes to romance. Unlike another show called Asterisk.


If it does something like romance right, in your opinion, wouldn't that put it above average? Like a 3.5 or 4? Rating something dead average usually means there's nothing redeeming but nothing horrible either. Yet you found the romance appealing compared with most of its clone cousins ;P
Oct 26, 2015 7:25 AM

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episode was paced really nicely.. and the fight scene was pretty intense. Glad mr ikki managed to win, and nice tender moments shared at the end there. seems like his sister decided to back off and let the ship (RSS Stella Ikki) set sail.

Great episode overall.




Oct 26, 2015 8:03 AM

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He said it was a millimeter off,sooo was he referring to his nose or his you-know-what area?


Also,the way he fended off the arrows reminded me of Kirito in GGO lol
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Oct 26, 2015 8:38 AM

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This fucking kiddy bravado man, does every anime with fighting in it HAVE to be written fo 12 year olds? Childish smack-talking in combat, unintentional comedy shit-eating grins intended to make the viewer hate the antagonist when all they do is make me hate the animator, getting spurred on at the last moment by the power of love or friendship, yadda, yadda, yadda

If all the fights are going to be this insulting, compensating and dragged out, then it's not worth the time.

Not to mention the romance was supposed to make this anime different, yet I feel nothing for them. Almost all their "development" have come from mentally stunted fighting where all I've been doing is rolling my eyes.

At least Alice had two insightful monologues, raising the score by a point for this episode (from negative 5 to negative 4 out of 10.)
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Oct 26, 2015 8:45 AM

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Someone should make a comparison list of Cavalery Knight and Asterisk.
Oct 26, 2015 8:45 AM
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This anime would be better if there wasn't this stupid ecchi..
Oct 26, 2015 8:45 AM

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ChongCZH said:
He said it was a millimeter off,sooo was he referring to his nose or his you-know-what area?
I think he meant he didnt mean to injure him,but he accidentally cut his nose...

Red_Tuesday said:
Not to mention the romance was supposed to make this anime different, yet I feel nothing for them. Almost all their "development" have come from mentally stunted fighting where all I've been doing is rolling my eyes.

At least Alice had two insightful monologues, raising the score by a point for this episode (from negative 5 to negative 4 out of 10.)
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Oct 26, 2015 8:50 AM
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Always-Hungry said:
Someone should make a comparison list of Cavalery Knight and Asterisk.


There is no point........they are going to different routes from here on.

Stop wasting time on pointless things and enjoy the show.

Oct 26, 2015 9:11 AM

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Dragon_Slayer_X said:
Always-Hungry said:
Someone should make a comparison list of Cavalery Knight and Asterisk.


There is no point........they are going to different routes from here on.

Stop wasting time on pointless things and enjoy the show.


It's not like you "HAVE TO" make a list.
Oct 26, 2015 9:26 AM

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Even though Cavalry and Asterisk is waaaaaay toooo similar, but I have to give it all to Cavalry. This episode is fucking awesome!!
Oct 26, 2015 9:40 AM

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I like the series but honestly that was a weak episode .
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Oct 26, 2015 10:03 AM

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renanmil said:
This anime would be better if there wasn't this stupid ecchi..


Yeah, totally agreed. Or at least limited. Stella losing her shit touching Ikki's stomach first episode was dumb, Stella being forced to strip in the mall was dumb, exiting the shower and dropping her towel after an already existing ecchi shower shot was pointless. Her bikini falling off last episode or two episodes ago was pointless as well, not to mention changed from the LN where that scene was done better.
Oct 26, 2015 10:29 AM

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Wow... An anime couple getting together before the last episode without a bunch of contrived bullshit and misunderstandings getting in the way?!

Good job.
Oct 26, 2015 12:01 PM

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aikaflip said:
Wow... An anime couple getting together before the last episode without a bunch of contrived bullshit and misunderstandings getting in the way?!

Good job.

Yeah I agree with you. Is beacuse of that I like this serie so much. Most of the serie you need to wait until the last episode, and Ikki is a great male lead.
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Oct 26, 2015 12:14 PM

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This anime is so cheesy. Yet a confession in ep 4: GREAT JOB!
will continue watching because of this. lol

.. and yeah yeah the whole tournament thing is exciting too.
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Oct 26, 2015 12:23 PM

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RealityRush said:
renanmil said:
This anime would be better if there wasn't this stupid ecchi..


Yeah, totally agreed. Or at least limited. Stella losing her shit touching Ikki's stomach first episode was dumb, Stella being forced to strip in the mall was dumb, exiting the shower and dropping her towel after an already existing ecchi shower shot was pointless. Her bikini falling off last episode or two episodes ago was pointless as well, not to mention changed from the LN where that scene was done better.

While the shower scene was completely pointless in execution (why does she have such a stupidly hentai bikini?), I don't think removing that or the original "touch his chest" would really help the story or romance. IMO, while its exagerated as hell I like the idea of her being sexually interested in the MC, showing desire on both ends of the spectrum. (Also showing a desire to sexually appeal to him by appearing in something somewhat sexy, it works just as well in universe as it does on the real life people that eat this up.) Perhaps it could have been portrayed more subtley (no naked power moan for example LOL, and less hentaiish bikini scenes), but I think the idea of it being fanservice isn't inherently bad in those scenarios, just slightly toned down perhaps.

Strip at the mall feels a bit cliche tho, I admit. And the Anime version of the sister kiss is very questionable as well.
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Oct 26, 2015 12:38 PM

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EmphaticPikachu said:
Perhaps it could have been portrayed more subtley (no naked power moan for example LOL, and less hentaiish bikini scenes)

Strip at the mall feels a bit cliche tho, I admit. And the Anime version of the sister kiss is very questionable as well.


But that's what I mean by "limited". I don't mean that it shouldn't exist at all, it's just so ridiculously over-the-top that it comes off quite silly. I get that Stella had never even seen a naked, ripped guy before, let alone touched one, but then show her running a finger along his abs with her biting her lip and squirming a bit, not whatever the crazy shit that they animated was. That would have been so much more *sexy* and appealing.

The bikini scene... I mean, fuck, she's already barely wearing anything, there was no need to diverge from the Manga/LN and make it fall off. Just reeks of try-harding.

The mall strip was just... so out-of-place for the emotion at the time. I mean, I like that it made her seem noble, but when you have brocon and shower scenes and underwear scenes, it hardly seems needed.

And again, the after-shower scene, ugh. Show her butt naked in the shower for ecchi, go for it, it makes sense and is decent fan-service, but the towel drop afterword is just beating a dead horse. Honestly, it would have been so much more attractive to have her standing there wrapped up in her towel with her hair up.

Sometimes less is more.
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RealityRush said:
EmphaticPikachu said:
Perhaps it could have been portrayed more subtley (no naked power moan for example LOL, and less hentaiish bikini scenes)

Strip at the mall feels a bit cliche tho, I admit. And the Anime version of the sister kiss is very questionable as well.


But that's what I mean by "limited". I don't mean that it shouldn't exist at all, it's just so ridiculously over-the-top that it comes off quite silly. I get that Stella had never even seen a naked, ripped guy before, let alone touched one, but then show her running a finger along his abs with her biting her lip and squirming a bit, not whatever the crazy shit that they animated was. That would have been so much more *sexy* and appealing.

The bikini scene... I mean, fuck, she's already barely wearing anything, there was no need to diverge from the Manga/LN and make it fall off. Just reeks of try-harding.

And the mall was just... out-of-place. I mean, I like that it made her seem noble, but when you have brocon and shower scenes and underwear scenes, it hardly seems needed.

And again, the shower scene, ugh. Show her butt naked in the shower for ecchi, go for it, it makes sense and is decent fan-service, but the towel drop afterword is just beating a dead horse. Honestly, it would be so much more attractive to her her standing there wrapped up in her towel with her hair up.

Sometimes less is more.

Forgive me, when I read over your comment I missed the "limited" statement, so I interpreted it as an act out against it outright.

My bad. Lol
Oct 26, 2015 1:02 PM

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Remember the last time MC-kun straight out confessed before even half of the show ended? At least in the last 5 years?

yeah, me neither.
You forgot about the part that confession is accepted.


So im guessing you guys didnt watch Ore Monogatari.....
Oct 26, 2015 1:03 PM

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The episode was amazing. And the anime too!
Loved they added the forest at "Are Invisible". I was really surprised in a good way at that part.
Also, this anime is clearly above Gakusen Toshi Asterisk.

My score: 5/5
Oct 26, 2015 1:09 PM

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EmphaticPikachu said:
Forgive me, when I read over your comment I missed the "limited" statement, so I interpreted it as an act out against it outright.

My bad. Lol


It happens, we seem to agree so all is well ;P
Oct 26, 2015 2:13 PM

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NeoAnkara said:
You forgot about the part that confession is accepted.


So im guessing you guys didnt watch Ore Monogatari.....
He mentioned Ore Monogatari in the original post...Never trust quotes :/

Still,few exceptions doesnt change the fact that last few seasons we didnt get many good romance anime...Anime needs more romance...all those indecisive BS MCs should just man up and do something already...
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Awwwwwwwwwwwwww.
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Oct 26, 2015 2:56 PM
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xkinn123 said:
Remember the last time MC-kun straight out confessed before even half of the show ended? At least in the last 5 years?

yeah, me neither.

I was so shocked by that confession. I'm really impressed, and for a tsundere to respond right away is even more surprising. I really like where this show is going, I hope they keep up the surprises.
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In this anime they call his skill "perfect vision" but in the fgc it's just known as getting downloaded.
Around and around the cycle goes.
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This is turning out to be so much better than I thought it would be! :)
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and I thought they would have some hot passionate kiss. disappointing
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