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| THIS IS AN ANIME ONLY DISCUSSION POST. DO NOT DISCUSS THE MANGA BEYOND THIS EPISODE. ---------------------------------------- Yay Luffy finally kicked Croc's ass and vivi's voice finally reached evveryone. |
Life is really simple, but we insist on making it complicated.~ |
| This seriously has to be the best episode i have seen so far in one piece. Vivi's speech to try and stop the ongoing war. Her voice is the best, so full of emotion, even i cried during that part. It was just sad. I am happy that finnaly her voice reached everyone and the war finally concluded. Luffy final battle against Croc was just awesome. He kicked crocodile's ass and what a damn battle that was. That was freak en epic. I can't describe how amazing this episode was :p |
ArtimesGamerDec 24, 2009 2:25 AM
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| This is it. This is when this show finally transcends what was just a really good adaptation of an amazing manga and becomes great anime. I love One Piece and I love the voice actors but this show has some serious deficits when it comes to animation and direction. But this episode, finally, finally, gives us something truly epic. I love the use of Dvorak's New World Symphony, very fitting. While written about the discovery of America as a "new world", this song fits in thematically with the beginning of a new country for Alabasta perfectly. This ep also showcases Oda-sensei's writing at it's peak. Vivi has finally stopped the bomb but still can't get her people to stop fighting, her voice can't reach them. And even when Luffy beats Croco-boy the war doesn't end, her voice still can't reach them. But because Mr. 0's down, there's no one to stop the rain, which is what finally allows them to hear her voice. Oda's plot lines are so layered and well thought out. And the dude's just getting started by this ep. |
| Croc is defeated by Luffy with sound of Allegro con fuoco by Antonín Dvořák. (Damn I'm so proud that Dvořák is from my country) |
| I'm guessing "The Will of D" is how Luffy survived the poison, but I guess we'll learn more later. I feel sorry for Vivi. She's being mentally scarred left and right. Sure all is supposedly fine for now, but she is bound to have some psychological problems because of this. |
| This episode was FUCKING EPIC. Now I'm relieved that I finally picked up this awesome anime. I had doubts at first because it's too long. But now.... I'm ashamed of myself for ever doubting this anime. 8/5 |
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| Hot damn. Luffy is kicking some major Crocodile ass in this episode. I dont even know how he's doing it ._. Ah finally, it's over. The ppl stop the stupid fighting~ |
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Kaizokuou said: This is it. This is when this show finally transcends what was just a really good adaptation of an amazing manga and becomes great anime. I love One Piece and I love the voice actors but this show has some serious deficits when it comes to animation and direction. But this episode, finally, finally, gives us something truly epic. I love the use of Dvorak's New World Symphony, very fitting. While written about the discovery of America as a "new world", this song fits in thematically with the beginning of a new country for Alabasta perfectly. This ep also showcases Oda-sensei's writing at it's peak. Vivi has finally stopped the bomb but still can't get her people to stop fighting, her voice can't reach them. And even when Luffy beats Croco-boy the war doesn't end, her voice still can't reach them. But because Mr. 0's down, there's no one to stop the rain, which is what finally allows them to hear her voice. Oda's plot lines are so layered and well thought out. And the dude's just getting started by this ep. You explain it so well, i wish i could explain it as well as that. But yeah what you said, this episode really shows oda's true talent in layering a story just perfectly and also bringing such an amazing climax to one of the best arcs in the show. |
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| From start to finish this was easily one of the best episodes I've ever seen in anime. From Luffy's duel with Crocodile to the scene where Vivi see's the bastard flying into the sky, my mouth was agape. Fantastic. |
| "Yes, I have been deprived of emotion. But not completely. Whoever did it, botched the job." - Geralt of Rivia |
| I just recently started One Piece again with my brother to try to catch up where the japanese episodes and I gotta say I don't regret it. So far the best episode I have seen yet, Luffy kicked Crocodile's ass! |
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| with all that beautiful classical music and truly epicness the whole episode looked like a GREAT performance in a theather. I was going to give standing ovation at the end. Thank you, Oda-sensei, I'll never forget this wonderful expierence! |
| Wow that was fucking awesome and One Piece is supposed to get even better after this? Aww man if it really somehow exceeds where it's at right now it's easily sliding into my top 5 anime of all time. |
| Wow what a coincidence it starts raining again lol. |
| MY IMPATIENCE AND FRUSTRATION IS OVER AS THE ARC FINALLY REACHED ITS CLIMAX LOOKING BACK AT MY ANGRY DISCUSSION POSTS I TAKE EVERYTHING BACK AS IT WAS ALL SO GOOD THAT I JUST GOT SO INTO IT I RATE ONE PIECE HIGHLY SICK SICK SICK ANIME 1LUV |
| BUT... FUCK VIVI |
| lmao you cracked me up it was basically "fuck the world" but i'm glad you ended up really liking the arc! |
| LOL how can it suddenly start raining....the bomb just explode in the sky. But maybe its blow there from elsewhere that fast. |
| Beautiful. Just....beautiful. T_T |
| Oh well. |
| oh my god im so glad that vivis voice finally reached them... ;A; that part gave me shivers i swear. and the fight between crocodile and luffy, was pure awesomeness hehe. i loved his smile at the end it was so cute <3 |
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| Luffy is So Strong *_* |
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| Well, this is the only climax that could make justice to the whole Arabasta arc. What made this arc so special for me is that it became a maximization of BOTH the qualities and the flaws of the show at the same time. The totally dragged out pacing (10 episodes of the Straw Hats getting to Alubarna, or that 20 seconds in 11 minutes infamy from the previous episode), the repetition of patterns (does Vivi really have to stumble every time she runs? Is it supposed to be moving?) and the apparent immunity of the main characters to any damage (I know it's part of the discourse and all, but this arc has stretched the limits of Luffy, Zoro or Usopp so many times it almost became self-parodic) were easily balanced by an amazing depiction of characters (as some people said in the previous episode discussion thread, it takes a lot of talent to make you care that deeply about a character that appeared for less than ten minutes in the whole arc (Pell)) and sense of adventure, creativity in the design and interaction of the scenarios and characters, a really effective sense of climax (this episode is the best example) and great transitions from comedy to drama or to action and backwards. The best example of this duality has been Luffy. I literally started to hate him in the desert episodes. His airheadness was so overdone that it became annoying for me. But damn, his duel with Crocodile was epic to absurdly high levels. Every single scene of that fight is probably among the best of the whole series. And his discourse on his motivations sounds so heroic and intense ("I don't want to let her die!"). This episode was one of the best of any series, as it made the huge amount of tension, emotional strength and effort put into this storyline through 50 or so episodes converge in only 20 minutes of pure intensity (the last minutes of the fight, that moment when Vivi realizes Crocodile has finally been defeated, her voice stopping the battle). I don't think this has to mean that the previous stuff was comparatively worthless. It seems for some reason that when there's a new high in this show there is a trend to dismiss all the previous stuff as basic and clearly inferior, and it's nothing like that, I wouldn't have got that far with One Piece if I didn't see qualities and potential in it, and it sort of bugs me when I read that I haven't even reached the reallly good stuff. This episode is the best of the series so far, but as for the whole story I have my doubts. In fact I think I still prefer overall the schematic simplicity of the Arlong arc (quality>quantity) to this long, at times epic, at times dragged out, Arabasta arc. Now let's see what happens with Nico Robin. It's going to be interesting. |
jal90Oct 12, 2012 2:40 PM
| Oda handled this arc so well. The build up that showed how dire the situation is, the villain that the viewer ends up despising (hate even) and the characters that, in surprisingly short periods of time, create an adamant bond with the person that is watching the show (f.e. Pell). If every person that gave One Piece a shot reached this arc, the show would annihilate shallow crap like Bleach and Naruto. P.S. I've seen all three of these animes. And, you have to admit, story-wise One Piece beats all of them. |
| not really. from what i've seen, first 130 episodes of naruto>alabasta arc. ss arc>alabasta arc. I don't know, this arc was so dragged out, this one episode couldn't fix it for me. Don't really see what makes this anime better than naruto or bleach. except not as much filler. but it kinda makes up for it by dragging it out so long. just my opinion. |
| that vivi bitch.. she's really irritating !! |
OiAaron said: BUT... FUCK VIVI yeah agree with you.. fuck vivi.. that bitch's voice is really annoying.. little grumpy!! |
| Great episode. :D |
| Eh, I still think Croc is stronger than Luffy so their final battle wasn't that impressive to me compared to the first 2. |
eternaltortureFeb 16, 2014 7:51 PM
| Finally, the arc is reaching the end? I thought it's gonna said "The End" at the end xD |
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| Never mess with Luffy,when he has a serious face. |
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| Finally, no more fucking annoying Vivi :) |
| An amazing episode. With both: action and feels.. T-T >EPIC< |
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| Amazing epsiode! I'm really glad I gave this anime a chance. |
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Anon1409 said: Finally, no more fucking annoying Vivi :) ^ this And crocodile's as* got kicked rly bad bwhahaha |
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LanceStone said: Croc is defeated by Luffy with sound of Allegro con fuoco by Antonín Dvořák. (Damn I'm so proud that Dvořák is from my country) This is what I meant lol the music from this episode was used in Waveya's MV too :o And they really should get someone better than Vivi for the next arcs, she really sucked ass for me -,- But oh well, nice episode overall. I loved how Luffy kicked Crocodile's ass. |
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| O_O Can't believe I didn't comment on this yet. Anyway, this is my favourite episode. |
| "Let Justice Be Done!" My Theme Fight again, fight again for justice! |
| Crocodile's hot! Sent with Mal Updater |
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| For this ep of OP, time and gravity were removed |
| Holy shit This episode solidified my love for One piece, this series is now in my top 10, and people say the best parts haven't come yet jeez its going to be pretty hard topping this. |
| Poor Vivi-chan. I felt so sorry for her when nobody was able to hear her voice. :C Glad to see the fight has finally ended. :) |
| Awesome episode! Really love the presentation of everything here. The camera angles used were really effective in creating a big, spectacular finale for this arc. Well, even so, it seems there's still a bit of wrap-up before it's truly over. I wonder what will happen next. |
::End of Transmission:: What have I been watching? Click here and find out on my viewing blog, "Vigorous Viewing" |
| 'Bout time, Luffy. Ya did gewd :D |
I was in tears when I watch this  it's over it's over ! life is amazing! |
FrancosiusMar 24, 2016 2:58 PM
| Finally! Probably the best episode of the entire arc. Watching Luffy pound the hell out of Crocodile actually felt pretty good and was one of the most cathartic moments I've seen recently. HOWEVER, FUCK this long ass, meandering, POS arc. It took them nearly 35 goddamn episodes to get here, that's 3 regular single cour shows, and it wasn't all that good either. That episode with the hillbilly bounty hunter and his two kids was the lowest point of the show so far. I can see how this anime/manga manged to survive for almost 20 years. What could be resolved in one episode is dragged out for nearly three to three and a half episodes. Also, fuck Vivi too. I like her, she's a sweet, caring grill. I especially liked the sisterly relationship she had with Nami, but constantly hearing her shout about how much she cares about her country got annoying after a while. |
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