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Jul 31, 2015 8:25 AM
#251
codephat said: It would have to be really offensive. In what capacity? Example please. |
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Jul 31, 2015 8:42 AM
#252
Jul 31, 2015 8:43 AM
#253
yhunata said: Mikasa said: yhunata said: I'm a Muslim and I don't really have any problem with any of the religious stuff in anime or any other form of fiction, for that matter. It's fiction, just don't take it seriously, is all (I know the retort that's coming, so don't even bother). If it were to do it tastelessly, I wouldn't drop it just for that, but I would rate it less as it is done badly. Not necessarily because my religion was insulted. If it's in a satirical manner, by a person whose attitude fits insulting religion in satirical manners, I'd actually rate it higher. Long story short, my religion only plays a part in my daily life and even then, it doesn't do much at the time (I'm not very religious). When it comes to fiction, anything is game. Anything. Technically it is haram for muslims to watch anime, especially in this day and age with incest and all. So either you're not very religious or you should not be watching anime. It's not haram. Worshiping pictures is haram. Drawing or sculpting for religious purposes is haram. In Islam, will (as in purpose) is everything. So long as I don't worship anime (which I don't), it's not haram. What is haram, however, is me watching hentai, as that is porn. P.S. This is why I say you don't read. yhunata said: (I'm not very religious) Again, learn to read. I wasemphasizing the fact that you don't count. Cause "real muslims" surely would be offended. I'm not referring to people born as muslims, but ones with strong beliefs. To them anime is haram |
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Jul 31, 2015 8:44 AM
#254
ichii_1 said: To all the atheists, does is offend you when an anime mentions god, since your religion doesn't believe in god? Interesting, Wonder how many true devote atheists there are in the world. |
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Jul 31, 2015 8:45 AM
#255
Mikasa said: yhunata said: Mikasa said: yhunata said: I'm a Muslim and I don't really have any problem with any of the religious stuff in anime or any other form of fiction, for that matter. It's fiction, just don't take it seriously, is all (I know the retort that's coming, so don't even bother). If it were to do it tastelessly, I wouldn't drop it just for that, but I would rate it less as it is done badly. Not necessarily because my religion was insulted. If it's in a satirical manner, by a person whose attitude fits insulting religion in satirical manners, I'd actually rate it higher. Long story short, my religion only plays a part in my daily life and even then, it doesn't do much at the time (I'm not very religious). When it comes to fiction, anything is game. Anything. Technically it is haram for muslims to watch anime, especially in this day and age with incest and all. So either you're not very religious or you should not be watching anime. It's not haram. Worshiping pictures is haram. Drawing or sculpting for religious purposes is haram. In Islam, will (as in purpose) is everything. So long as I don't worship anime (which I don't), it's not haram. What is haram, however, is me watching hentai, as that is porn. P.S. This is why I say you don't read. yhunata said: (I'm not very religious) Again, learn to read. I wasemphasizing the fact that you don't count. Cause "real muslims" surely would be offended. I'm not referring to people born as muslims, but ones with strong beliefs. To them anime is haram I don't know about this, but The total muslim viewership of anime is probably bigger than the population of european anime viewers. |
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Jul 31, 2015 8:50 AM
#256
ichii_1 said: To all the atheists, does is offend you when an anime mentions god, since your religion doesn't believe in god? No. Its the same as people in real life mentioning god. I dont care really. Generally anime have fantasy gods, that are legitimately real corporeal beings, so its not unreasonable. In such a situation, I would be religious if there is definitive proof gods exist. |
Jul 31, 2015 8:57 AM
#257
shintai88 said: Mikasa said: yhunata said: Mikasa said: yhunata said: I'm a Muslim and I don't really have any problem with any of the religious stuff in anime or any other form of fiction, for that matter. It's fiction, just don't take it seriously, is all (I know the retort that's coming, so don't even bother). If it were to do it tastelessly, I wouldn't drop it just for that, but I would rate it less as it is done badly. Not necessarily because my religion was insulted. If it's in a satirical manner, by a person whose attitude fits insulting religion in satirical manners, I'd actually rate it higher. Long story short, my religion only plays a part in my daily life and even then, it doesn't do much at the time (I'm not very religious). When it comes to fiction, anything is game. Anything. Technically it is haram for muslims to watch anime, especially in this day and age with incest and all. So either you're not very religious or you should not be watching anime. It's not haram. Worshiping pictures is haram. Drawing or sculpting for religious purposes is haram. In Islam, will (as in purpose) is everything. So long as I don't worship anime (which I don't), it's not haram. What is haram, however, is me watching hentai, as that is porn. P.S. This is why I say you don't read. yhunata said: (I'm not very religious) Again, learn to read. I wasemphasizing the fact that you don't count. Cause "real muslims" surely would be offended. I'm not referring to people born as muslims, but ones with strong beliefs. To them anime is haram I don't know about this, but The total muslim viewership of anime is probably bigger than the population of european anime viewers. Interesting to note that Muslim-country channels cover even the thighs on a girl in anime. So it's Halal-ness comes at a cost of severe censorship. Chrollo's last name is not Lucilfer. Kami and other gods from DBZ are just "some really strong senseis" So don't tell me they are not "offended" in any way. |
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Jul 31, 2015 8:57 AM
#258
Mikasa said: Again, learn to read. I wasemphasizing the fact that you don't count. Cause "real muslims" surely would be offended. I'm not referring to people born as muslims, but ones with strong beliefs. To them anime is haram "Real Muslims" ha. And what, may I inquire, makes a so-called "real Muslim"? Is it praying? Believing in the One True God, maybe? Recital of the Holy Quran? A "real Muslim" is one who believes that Allah is the one true God and that Prophet Muhammad is his messenger from the bottom of his heart, with no doubts. I do believe that and that makes me a "real Muslim". Also, just in case you're confused, being offended and being angry are both very discouraged in Islam, so one with a "strong belief" should not be getting offended in first place. Btw, my source? 19 years of life at Maldives, a total Muslim country and near 16 consecutive years of learning Islam as a subject. P.S. Don't take my not being offended at this stuff as me not being a "real Muslim", because I'm psychologically incapable of being offended... at anything. |
Jul 31, 2015 9:03 AM
#259
There was a rumor in Muslim countries in the 2000s that Pokemon was an Israeli product. The fucking Minister of Education in Iraq had to go on TV to explain that Charmandee did not mean some Israeli subliminal message. In Jordan and Syria it was still ongoing until Digimon along. Lays was boycotted for having these gift-discs that featured pokemon collection pictures (they were popular) So, there you have it, entire nations offended by anime based on their beliefs. |
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Jul 31, 2015 9:06 AM
#260
Mikasa said: There was a rumor in Muslim countries in the 2000s that Pokemon was an Israeli product. The fucking Minister of Education in Iraq had to go on TV to explain that Charmandee did not mean some Israeli subliminal message. In Jordan and Syria it was still ongoing until Digimon along. Lays was boycotted for having these gift-discs that featured pokemon collection pictures (they were popular) So, there you have it, entire nations offended by anime based on their beliefs. And your point is? That I'm wrong or that it's possible for Muslims to be offended? |
Jul 31, 2015 9:41 AM
#261
Mikasa said: There was a rumor in Muslim countries in the 2000s that Pokemon was an Israeli product. Oh shit what have I been doing all this time! :O |
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Jul 31, 2015 9:49 AM
#262
if an anime was able to insult my beliefs (which would be really hard considering I don't believe in much) and it somehow affected me (which would also be hard cuz my feelings are near untouchable) and made me think about it... then I think that its probably a show worth watching lol. if it has me questioning stuff, that could be interesting. Most anime isn't worth a second thought, not that their bad, just not that their so complexe that you got to think about it afterwards. |
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Jul 31, 2015 10:22 AM
#263
Mikasa said: There was a rumor in Muslim countries in the 2000s that Pokemon was an Israeli product. The fucking Minister of Education in Iraq had to go on TV to explain that Charmandee did not mean some Israeli subliminal message. In Jordan and Syria it was still ongoing until Digimon along. Lays was boycotted for having these gift-discs that featured pokemon collection pictures (they were popular) So, there you have it, entire nations offended by anime based on their beliefs. I'm far from being a fan of Islam, but you're putting out very lame strawman. A 'real Muslim' is already bad enough, especially because you don't bother to define it. I'd expect some knowledge of Islam before that. Then again, there are a lot of ultra-orthodox Jews who act like they never read the Ten Commandments. But it should be obvious Islam's beef (or pork? excuse me for the joke) is with religious drawings, not drawings in general and with sexuality. I wonder what yhunta's stance on sexual content, by the way - how far is too far for him. |
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Jul 31, 2015 10:33 AM
#264
TheBrainintheJar said: I wonder what yhunta's stance on sexual content, by the way - how far is too far for him. Like I said earlier, when it comes to fiction, anything is game. Go as far as you want. |
Jul 31, 2015 4:42 PM
#265
yhunata said: TheBrainintheJar said: I wonder what yhunta's stance on sexual content, by the way - how far is too far for him. Like I said earlier, when it comes to fiction, anything is game. Go as far as you want. You said you don't watch hentai, that sexual imagery is haram. Where's the limit that turns something from okay to haram? |
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Jul 31, 2015 5:06 PM
#266
I'm a free thinker. open to almost everything, so far there's no anime that offended me. it's different when i'm just being squeamish. |
Jul 31, 2015 5:14 PM
#267
I'm atheist so I don't get offended easily. They have a different culture and I respect that. I dropped Ketsuekigata-kun!, but that was more because I didn't understand it rather than it offending me. It was about the personalities associated with different blood types. That isn't part of my culture, so I didn't understand it. I could watch an anime that has Christianity or Buddhism as a main theme because I know more about those and it could be interesting to watch. |
Jul 31, 2015 5:21 PM
#268
ichii_1 said: of courseTo all the atheists, does is offend you when an anime mentions god, since your religion doesn't believe in god? |
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Jul 31, 2015 5:32 PM
#269
That's a stupid reason for dropping something. I like it and I think it's interesting when I have my beliefs challenged. No stupid and trite low-brow humour, though. That stuff is just lame, even when it isn't trying too hard to offend. |
Jul 31, 2015 5:40 PM
#270
Jul 31, 2015 5:44 PM
#271
In my opinion,anime is anime,real life is real life,anime has nothing to do with real life so i dont really care if its offended my beliefs |
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Jul 31, 2015 5:50 PM
#272
tennogame said: i was never offended with any premise that showed a fictional character called god.(kami sama) as i'm not offended with any fictional character.Karadzic said: ichii_1 said: To all the atheists, does is offend you when an anime mentions god, since your religion doesn't believe in god? not! How can an atheist be insulted when the name of imaginary friend is mentioned ? |
Jul 31, 2015 8:18 PM
#273
zombie_pegasus said: I'm atheist so I don't get offended easily. If there's something I've learned from time here, it's that generally speaking, atheists can get offended just as easily as everyone else. |
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Jul 31, 2015 8:23 PM
#274
icirate said: zombie_pegasus said: I'm atheist so I don't get offended easily. If there's something I've learned from time here, it's that generally speaking, atheists can get offended just as easily as everyone else. atheists are the fuckiest of fuckbois but back on topic, no. i dont get offended at really anything for two reasons 1. I'm not white 2. I'm not a fuckboi |
Jul 31, 2015 8:59 PM
#275
I'm not an overly sensitive pc baby, so no If it's offensively bad, then yes (Elfen Lied, Attack on Titan etc) |
Jul 31, 2015 9:55 PM
#276
Jul 31, 2015 10:37 PM
#277
Never have, most likely never will. |
Jul 31, 2015 10:41 PM
#278
No, that's petty and I don't intend to fabricate a proverbial echo chamber for myself. |
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Jul 31, 2015 10:42 PM
#279
i wouldn't call myself religious. i guess i like to believe there's a higher being watching over me but i don't pray or read "holy" books. so no, i wouldn't drop an anime because none of that would truly offend me. besides, it's fiction so to be honest anything goes. |
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Aug 1, 2015 12:07 AM
#280
ichii_1 said: To all the atheists, does is offend you when an anime mentions god, since your religion doesn't believe in god? Atheism is not a belief system nor is it a religion. While there are some religions that are atheistic (certain sects of Buddhism, for example), that does not mean that atheism is a religion. Found this on the Wikipedia |
Aug 1, 2015 1:00 AM
#281
Lvin_20 said: ichii_1 said: To all the atheists, does is offend you when an anime mentions god, since your religion doesn't believe in god? Atheism is not a belief system nor is it a religion. While there are some religions that are atheistic (certain sects of Buddhism, for example), that does not mean that atheism is a religion. Found this on the Wikipedia Nothing you said invalidates that question. |
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Aug 1, 2015 1:03 AM
#282
Aug 1, 2015 1:05 AM
#283
ToaofJustice said: Karadzic said: ToaofJustice said: You can't not believe in something if it isn't actually real. Does that mean the flying spaghetti monster could be real too? Does that mean a magic monkey-like creature who is purple and has a refrigerator for a hand and a palm tree tail that created the universe could be real also? Yay! There is a god and he exists here reddit.com/r/onetrueklein |
Aug 1, 2015 2:01 AM
#284
I've got pretty thick skin so it would take a lot for a television series or movie to offend me. |
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Aug 1, 2015 2:08 AM
#285
icirate said: Lvin_20 said: ichii_1 said: To all the atheists, does is offend you when an anime mentions god, since your religion doesn't believe in god? Atheism is not a belief system nor is it a religion. While there are some religions that are atheistic (certain sects of Buddhism, for example), that does not mean that atheism is a religion. Found this on the Wikipedia Nothing you said invalidates that question. Your existence invalidates God. |
Aug 1, 2015 2:12 AM
#286
PoeticJustice said: Your existence invalidates God. Wanna phrase that in a syllogism or something? |
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Aug 1, 2015 2:17 AM
#287
I believe god is hentai and stalker(through is my friend). what else can hurt my believe. |
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Aug 1, 2015 2:25 AM
#288
TheBrainintheJar said: yhunata said: TheBrainintheJar said: I wonder what yhunta's stance on sexual content, by the way - how far is too far for him. Like I said earlier, when it comes to fiction, anything is game. Go as far as you want. You said you don't watch hentai, that sexual imagery is haram. Where's the limit that turns something from okay to haram? I said that I do watch hentai, despite the fact that it is haram. Haram is anything that is forbidden by the Holy Quran. Porn is forbidden and as such, hentai (which, by definition, is porn) is haram. For further details, the spoiler is all I can offer with my (limited for a Muslim) knowledge. There are 5 levels of "acceptability" in Islam: Wajib, Sunnah, two other levels whose name I can't remember and Haram. Wajib are those that have been ordered to do in the Quran, such as praying and such. Breaking a wajib is forbidden, Haram. Sunnah are the actions, words and anything that was acknowledged by the Prophet but are not wajib, such as keeping a beard and such. It's fine not to commend to these, but it's highly encouraged to do so. The next two levels are basically "It's fine if you don't, but better if you do" and "It's fine if you do, but better if you don't". Haram is anything that has been ordered in the Quran as forbidden, such as breaking a wajib, premarital sex, alcohol, etc.. Furthermore, there are somethings that are implied in the Quran and if these were confirmed by the Prophet, they are either Haram or a Wajib. |
Aug 1, 2015 2:35 AM
#289
tennogame said: I read some Kids on the Slope bashing because it favored the Catholic sides of JapanKaradzic said: ichii_1 said: To all the atheists, does is offend you when an anime mentions god, since your religion doesn't believe in god? not! How can an atheist be insulted when the name of imaginary friend is mentioned ? |
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Aug 1, 2015 2:35 AM
#290
yhunata said: TheBrainintheJar said: yhunata said: TheBrainintheJar said: I wonder what yhunta's stance on sexual content, by the way - how far is too far for him. Like I said earlier, when it comes to fiction, anything is game. Go as far as you want. You said you don't watch hentai, that sexual imagery is haram. Where's the limit that turns something from okay to haram? I said that I do watch hentai, despite the fact that it is haram. Haram is anything that is forbidden by the Holy Quran. Porn is forbidden and as such, hentai (which, by definition, is porn) is haram. For further details, the spoiler is all I can offer with my (limited for a Muslim) knowledge. There are 5 levels of "acceptability" in Islam: Wajib, Sunnah, two other levels whose name I can't remember and Haram. Wajib are those that have been ordered to do in the Quran, such as praying and such. Breaking a wajib is forbidden, Haram. Sunnah are the actions, words and anything that was acknowledged by the Prophet but are not wajib, such as keeping a beard and such. It's fine not to commend to these, but it's highly encouraged to do so. The next two levels are basically "It's fine if you don't, but better if you do" and "It's fine if you do, but better if you don't". Haram is anything that has been ordered in the Quran as forbidden, such as breaking a wajib, premarital sex, alcohol, etc.. Furthermore, there are somethings that are implied in the Quran and if these were confirmed by the Prophet, they are either Haram or a Wajib. I misread you. I was pretty sure you said you didn't watch hentai. Thanks for the insight. @The whole atheist debate: Just because atheism isn't a religion doesn't mean they don't get offended. I've seen plenty of easily offended atheists. Most of these were also terrible at explaining why they're atheists. I wonder if there's a connection. |
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Aug 1, 2015 5:37 AM
#291
1. I'm not easily offened 2. Even if something offends me, it's an art form and I believe in freedom of expression. |
Aug 8, 2015 1:42 PM
#292
yhunata said: Mikasa said: There was a rumor in Muslim countries in the 2000s that Pokemon was an Israeli product. The fucking Minister of Education in Iraq had to go on TV to explain that Charmandee did not mean some Israeli subliminal message. In Jordan and Syria it was still ongoing until Digimon along. Lays was boycotted for having these gift-discs that featured pokemon collection pictures (they were popular) So, there you have it, entire nations offended by anime based on their beliefs. And your point is? That I'm wrong or that it's possible for Muslims to be offended? Point is that some already are. So much so in fact they cause the masses to drop the anime. Lvin_20 said: ichii_1 said: To all the atheists, does is offend you when an anime mentions god, since your religion doesn't believe in god? Atheism is not a belief system nor is it a religion. While there are some religions that are atheistic (certain sects of Buddhism, for example), that does not mean that atheism is a religion. Found this on the Wikipedia Technically it is. There are allegedly atheist controversies around anime too. |
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Aug 8, 2015 1:47 PM
#293
ToastofJustice said: LionCake said: 1. Im not a prissy faggot that gets offended. 2. I am an agnostic athiest, that cant really be criticized. I havent seen anything that criticizes it in a serious medium. Because atheism is a logically secure and reasonable "belief" with no flaws to begin with. 3. I have seen anime that insult Buddhism which hardly bothers me. Buddhism is one of the very few religions I actually respect. Very true. |
Aug 8, 2015 1:48 PM
#294
I dont care about this :D |
Aug 8, 2015 2:12 PM
#295
No, because all religions are just fantasies to comfort and lie to ourselves because we're scarred of death and facing the fact that someday our bodies will all shut down and we will cease to exist anyway (and, alternatively, to provide proper rules of behavior and respect for others to dissuade lawlessness with threat of future punishment from a higher form of being.). They're no different from other fiction created by people, aside from the practical applications to real life and society that help us govern our own minds and insteincts. |
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Aug 8, 2015 2:16 PM
#296
ichii_1 said: Not unless it's really didactic. Otherwise I don't care, besides, anime uses God more as a symbolic thing anyway, and often isn't even related to Christianity.To all the atheists, does is offend you when an anime mentions god, since your religion doesn't believe in god? |
Aug 8, 2015 2:40 PM
#297
To all the atheists, does is offend you when an anime mentions god, since your religion doesn't believe in god? Offensive, never, but anything can become tedious to watch if you think the means used to convey the message is too heavy-handed or preachy (even if you agree with the message). For a non-religious example of this watch Arjuna. |
Aug 8, 2015 2:42 PM
#298
Mikasa said: If an anime insulted your beliefs (christianity, buddhism, atheism, etc) would you drop it? If 1) they did it constructively in a serious manner. 2) tastelessly in a satirical manner just to insult it And why/why not? Has there been any religious controversies in anime? Wanted to say no at first. But with rule 2. there I'd rather not watch it. |
Aug 8, 2015 6:34 PM
#299
I don't care who or what insults my beliefs, so no I wouldn't drop an anime if it were touch on the topic. |
Aug 8, 2015 7:33 PM
#300
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