| but we already had madoka! |
 |
Isaac_ said: romagia said: What is more popular between Love Live and Madoka?but we already had madoka! One Piece |
 |
JumpinJC said: It already happened with Shingeki no Kyojin. How? |
| Bleach 2 |
 |
JumpinJC said: Wft?It already happened with Shingeki no Kyojin. |
 Nico- said: Conversations with people pinging/quoting me to argue about some old post I wrote years ago will not be entertained@Comic_Sans oh no y arnt ppl dieing i need more ppl dieing rly gud plot avansement jus liek tokyo ghoul if erbudy dies amirite |
| If by new Evangelion you mean something super good that makes everything that came before it look like doo doo then I hope so. |
 |
Isaac_ said: romagia said: What is more popular between Love Live and Madoka?but we already had madoka! Probably Madoka. I personally don't think it was revolutionary to anime, though. It was just different. You could argue K-on! to an extent, even though it's not the most popular choice to everyone. It definitely had an influence on a lot of anime. |
 |
| It is possible. Though I can't say if it's likely. |
Isaac_ said: Praland said: You don't know, I see.One Piece What about between One Piece and Dragon ball? Well, Dragon Ball ended 20 years ago and still it's popular. |
|
| Well, SAO did come out. |
 |
| Only FGAU time can tell. Correct me if I'm wrong,but wasn't Evangelion kinda like the result of the economic crisis back then?Wouldn't it need another one to make the studios "try something 'new'"? There is also quite a lack of Original IP anime isn't it?So as long adapting manga,ln,nvl,video games etc all works fine/brings a lot of money to the major studios...I don't think anyone is trying to change something. And sure AoT exploded "worldwide" in popularity and maybe it will continue to do so once season 2 comes across...but I don't personally think it changed that much. Not to say Madoka Magica was the first "darker" take on the magical girl genre but from what I hear,I can't confirmas I don't watch much of them, there have been some newer magical girl shows that follow the formula of Madoka/try to be "darker" I do hope that Anno will try something new with Studio Khara after he finished the Rebuild movies.Some ideas from Japan Animator Expo look quite interesting so ideas are there imo. |
_HeroKenzan_Jun 19, 2015 2:12 PM
 |
| I never get how Evangelion breaked tropes. Were anti-hero protagonists that scarce before? On a less serious note, I think Lucky Star or K-On whichever came first started this moe genre. |
 |
Tenshi_Shura said: I never get how Evangelion breaked tropes. Were anti-hero protagonists that scarce before? On a less serious note, I think Lucky Star or K-On whichever came first started this moe genre. K-On! is the influential one, I brought that up in an earlier post. Lucky Star did pretty badly in Japan, I hear. I think the humor was more westernized or something. I could be wrong, but I've never cared enough to check if that's true. |
|
| I don't have too much hope for this, but maybe the upcoming Koutetsujou no Cabaneli will be something of the like. |
   |
Isaac_ said: What about between One Piece and Dragon ball? Depends. If anime, Dragonball, by a lot. if Manga, Dragonball is a lot more popular outside of Japan, by a lot. In Japan, One Piece is more popular. |
 |
LunarProxy said: Lucky Star did pretty badly in Japan, I hear. I think the humor was more westernized or something. I could be wrong, but I've never cared enough to check if that's true. No, you are thinking of Nichijou. Lucky Star sold more than 20+k average. |
|
| When you go to Japan and see how much Evangelion is a part of the culture (seriously, the first thing you see when you get off the plane is a giant poster of Rei Ayanami wearing a kimono and greeting you)...........I just don't think there will be another EVA. It's a timeless, iconic anime over there for them, just like Totoro, Pokemon, and Dragonball. The original anime series is so old now....yet it still hasn't died. I think kids are going to be singing Cruel Angel Thesis thirty years even from NOW. That's how classic this series is. (I'm not an EVA fanatic or anything but this feels like absolute fact) |
  |
Isaac_ said: dunno romagia said: What is more popular between Love Live and Madoka?but we already had madoka! But Princess Tutu surely isn't popular |
| Twitter and it's consequences had been a disaster for the human race |
| SAO and AoT hardly recolutionalised shit. I'll give AoT the action animation and choreography, but that's it. These two gained international popularity, but they did so by relying heavily on anime tropes that pandered towards these audiences. |
LunarProxy said: Tenshi_Shura said: I never get how Evangelion breaked tropes. Were anti-hero protagonists that scarce before? On a less serious note, I think Lucky Star or K-On whichever came first started this moe genre. K-On! is the influential one, I brought that up in an earlier post. Lucky Star did pretty badly in Japan, I hear. I think the humor was more westernized or something. I could be wrong, but I've never cared enough to check if that's true. Well K-On certainly is the more popular one. So why did Evangelion became so popular? I wasn't familiar with anime during its era. |
|
| I really don't give rats on what's going to be the next evangellion, evangellion wasn't even that good anyways. All I want is that every season I can look forward to a season with a decent amount of anime to watch. |
Miraclezify said: SAO and AoT hardly recolutionalised shit. I'll give AoT the action animation and choreography, but that's it. These two gained international popularity, but they did so by relying heavily on anime tropes that pandered towards these audiences. Eh, I watched NGE a long time ago and only once. It really didn't do much to me, maybe because I was too young back then to understand the themes, etc. but the way the characters acted was just annoying. All I saw was characters yelling at each other or "barely tolerating" other, escpacially when it comes to Shinji. I don't know what it "revolutionized", but that may also have to do with the fact that I don't live in Japan and that I didn't watch many anime from before NGE... SAO... meh, nothing revolutionizing about it. One good thing is that it could break away from that typical "confession in last episode" BS that many series had around that time. It coincidently was also one of the first more "main stream" series that (re-)introduced the concept of a "Gary Stu" to the audience and possibly caused that "Mary Sue/Gary Stu" overuse (in discussions) we have now. SnK... it's great for reasons that people largely don't even notice, which is a shame. Fans and haters only look at it as some kind of "gory actions series", even though that is actually the least interesting part of SnK. Since so many people don't even get the point due to their "wars" with other people who got it wrong too, I cannot really say it "revolutionized" anything, aside from maybe being the "most misunderstood series by both haters and fans". Although actually there is one thing it revolutionized: SnK "revolutionized" anime openings with Feuerroter Pfeil und Bogen (also refered to as "guren no yumiya"). |
 |
| Evangelion? Revolutionary? Hoho! You jest? |
 |
Isaac_ said: PoeticJustice said: It's a mainstream anime about a somewhat unique concept (giant naked human eating monsters and medieval spidermen) which kinda created a fad and inspired a few anime (like Owari).How? 1) It didn't. 2) SnK didn't make those things up. Why do people have to be so ignorant? |
The sun is a deadly laser |
| As I said, people don't seem to get the subtle stuff in SnK at all and instead focus on the superficial. Because of that, at best, it can only be considered to be "revolutionary" for the first OP Feuerroter Pfeil und Bogen. |
|
| Btw evangellion didn't bring anything new to the table. Someone talk of a series that is really similar to evangellion, but the thing is, it came out before evangellion. The thing is, is that evangellion was the series that became a big hit with this concept even though it wasn't the first to come up with this idea. So the people that are saying this series didn't make this concept first should just stop. Every series got inspiration from something, yes evangellion didn't make up anything new either. |
keragammingJun 19, 2015 7:36 PM
| Definitely not. There won't be another JoJo's or DBZ either. |
 |
Deus-Vult said: Isaac_ said: dunno What is more popular between Love Live and Madoka? But Princess Tutu surely isn't popular It should be. At least people who review it give that rightfully high score. |
|
FanEu said: Evangelion is overrated and sucked (sry just had to do it) so I hope there won't be anything similiar in the coming years How is it a revolutionary anime again? A bit ironic coming from a tokyo ghoul fan but it did well since the memorable characters and that it put a twist on the mecha flood of years before. How many anime do you know of pre NGE? K-On is a decent moe/sol anime seeing your list. If TG S1 is too rushed then shouldn't it get a 5 or something? |
| added the fourth most popular anime onto this site |
Takuan_Soho said: FanEu said: Evangelion is overrated and sucked (sry just had to do it) so I hope there won't be anything similiar in the coming years How is it a revolutionary anime again? At the bare-bone least, it sexualized animation in a way that not even Fujiko could. Compare the drawings of Asuka and Rei to every character before the two, then look at every character since. The main reason why young people cannot understand the importance of Evangelion is because it was so successful. Everything after changed, the changed became accepted as required. A simple test would be, could the animation style before Evangelion succeed today. The answer is no. That explains the transformational nature of the show. I haven't seen a lot of old anime so do correct if I'm speaking nonsense, but I do think I've seen at least some anime that looked fairly sexualized and came out quite before Evangelion. Go Nagai's Cutey Honey for instance. I mean, just look at those covers:  And you're saying the pre-Evangelion animation couldn't succeed, but what do you even mean by that? The Galaxy Express 999 movie's animation looked fine to me and it was released in 1979. Granted, it's a movie and as such probably had a leg up over shows, but even so. What exactly did Evangelion's animation have that is so special? |
EvenJellyOn said: FanEu said: Evangelion is overrated and sucked (sry just had to do it) so I hope there won't be anything similiar in the coming years How is it a revolutionary anime again? A bit ironic coming from a tokyo ghoul fan but it did well since the memorable characters and that it put a twist on the mecha flood of years before. How many anime do you know of pre NGE? K-On is a decent moe/sol anime seeing your list. If TG S1 is too rushed then shouldn't it get a 5 or something? Don't take him seriously. He's either trolling or blind hating. |
|
DrCoppelius said: I haven't seen a lot of old anime so do correct if I'm speaking nonsense, but I do think I've seen at least some anime that looked fairly sexualized and came out quite before Evangelion. Go Nagai's Cutey Honey for instance. I mean, just look at those covers: And you're saying the pre-Evangelion animation couldn't succeed, but what do you even mean by that? The Galaxy Express 999 movie's animation looked fine to me and it was released in 1979. Granted, it's a movie and as such probably had a leg up over shows, but even so. What exactly did Evangelion's animation have that is so special? Most anime were bland kid shows like long running mecha shows and comedy that nobody would watch over here. Just look at some of the pre NGE seasonal pages. While not a massive fix in the 90s you got some good/popular shows that wouldn't happen pre NGE. |
| added the fourth most popular anime onto this site |
| I really liked NGE. Shinji is a very likable MC. And some of the shit he had to go through was very sad and emotional. |
| K-On and Haruhi are the first two anime reshaping post-Eva series that come to mind. Others, like Madoka and SnK, have spawned a few knock-offs, but are not on the same level of trope popularizing. |
 |
Kezone said: K-On and Haruhi are the first two anime reshaping post-Eva series that come to mind. Others, like Madoka and SnK, have spawned a few knock-offs, but are not on the same level of trope popularizing. Except the way these anime try to copy Shinji's character is ridiculous and annoying. All those MC's are just cowards for no reason, while Shinji's character seemed genuine. |
ibrahim2712 said: Kezone said: K-On and Haruhi are the first two anime reshaping post-Eva series that come to mind. Others, like Madoka and SnK, have spawned a few knock-offs, but are not on the same level of trope popularizing. Except the way these anime try to copy Shinji's character is ridiculous and annoying. All those MC's are just cowards for no reason, while Shinji's character seemed genuine. How in the world did any of these anime try to copy Shinji? Asuka and Rei are a different story, but Shinji? Where? |
|
Kezone said: ibrahim2712 said: Except the way these anime try to copy Shinji's character is ridiculous and annoying. All those MC's are just cowards for no reason, while Shinji's character seemed genuine. How in the world did any of these anime try to copy Shinji? Asuka and Rei are a different story, but Shinji? Where? Really? Have you not seen the countless MC's who are literally trash rip offs of Shinji? |
ibrahim2712 said: Kezone said: How in the world did any of these anime try to copy Shinji? Asuka and Rei are a different story, but Shinji? Where? Really? Have you not seen the countless MC's who are literally trash rip offs of Shinji? I'm not saying Shinji ripoffs don't exist, but none were in the anime I listed. Are we going to argue now that Yui and Kyon are Shinji clones....??? |
|
More topics from this board
» 🎃 Halloween Special: Crown of Eternal Night 🌙 ( 1 2 3 4 5 ... Last Page )nirererin - Oct 18 |
263 |
by SgtBateMan
»»
22 seconds ago |
|
» English anime dubs should go all in. ( 1 2 )valico - Nov 4 |
66 |
by valico
»»
16 minutes ago |
|
» Can't find animeumop3plsdn - 5 hours ago |
3 |
by umop3plsdn
»»
23 minutes ago |
|
» Anime which you need to watch more than just anime to like?thewiru - Yesterday |
23 |
by thewiru
»»
39 minutes ago |
|
» what's your most favorite protag and least favorite one?Ymir_The_Viking - Nov 4 |
39 |
by Zimmu
»»
56 minutes ago |