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| THIS IS AN ANIME ONLY DISCUSSION POST. DO NOT DISCUSS THE MANGA BEYOND THIS EPISODE. ---------------------------------------- Oh my goodness... Quite a tense episode with Ito involved and reflection of the events up to this point. Quite a way to buildup everything though to set up for the final episodes especially with Yuuta's promise. I think a highlight would be and Narugino's moment in the final few minutes. Poor Ito for getting involved AGAIN at the shrine but this time with Guriko. |
Stark700Jun 11, 2015 11:52 AM
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| Man what a build up.. Now I'm really curious on how he is going to put that third rail down and change the future. Can't wait for the next episode!! |
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| Wow, that preview. Two episodes left... Good episode indeed. Nice one with train going off the trails. Chiranosuke clearly provoking Yuuta. (and still pretends to be a spirit from origin!) Dammit, why i still can't find satisfactory plot theory? All three has serious flaws! Even parallel world one is troubles me. Well... Small things to wonder – if how turtle can see spirits going to be left unsolved just like "who kicked the can" from E17? |
YMMSJun 11, 2015 12:22 PM
| I know that my English isn't good so, please, bear with me. |
| that cat is full of shit |
CliqProfil4Nudes said: I second this notion that cat is full of shit Damn that episode was intense and as usual the PV is just.....Wow |
| Insane. Guriko's plan worked, Rabura made Meika hack into the servers. Tsubouchi got false information from Guriko about W as it is already complete. Also Pine's rage was hard to watch, damn, i felt his pain. Pine & Chiyoko bonding was depressing, yet beautiful. The cat is clearly provoking Pine to do something out of the ordinary. The train derailing and dropping into Pine's hands was a very nice touch. I don't know anymore what is going to happen. Also is it me or does the next episode have even better animation quality? Surely looked like it from the preview. |
SmudyJun 11, 2015 12:40 PM
| This episode was epic. I couldn't believe how quickly it ended. Those last scenes before the ED were some of the most powerful moments of any anime from this year. |
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| I started grabbing at my screen because of the episode >_< |
| A fairly dreary, somber episode. However, now is the time for Yuuta's final counterattack against destiny! |
| That was hype as f***!! O_O Amazing ep, loved the encounter with Guriko so much. He's (I'll call her a guy for now since she said I'm no longer Guri and just gives too many male vibes XD) become quite something. The intensity of the scene when Yuta was gonna give up and Chiyoko was crying, then he started breaking everything in his room was so good!!! Best scene was definitely the roof scene with the hug. DAMN!!! The responsibility Yuta just shouldered is insane O_o Really loved the "Even Guri-chan?" part. The feelz!! I can't stand the friggin cat anymore. Every single word it mutters is full of shit. My ears are bleeding from all its' BS!!! F*** IT!!! |
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StevenHu said: Agreed This episode was epic. I couldn't believe how quickly it ended. Those last scenes before the ED were some of the most powerful moments of any anime from this year. I really hope that they can work things out with Guriko and hopefully switch back to their original bodies because I ship Pine and Chiyoko so fucking hard......That rooftop scene was too cute |
| The despair felt real, Marina Inou's acting was perfect, and I feel sad for Teraoka. Gotta like that fabulous braid. The room Meika was examining Mikatan in, is a shout out to VLR's treatment room. Also a shout out to this. Smudy said: Also is it me or does the next episode have even better animation quality? Surely looked like it from the preview. There was no outsourced animation this time. MAPPA reserved the budget for the concluding episodes, it seems. I think the Human Instrumentality Preservation Project that Chiranosuke mentions aims to make the tenants work together for a reason. Those 6,373,153,740 Yutas' job was possibly to gather everyone to the Korai House. They are totally not normal people, and possess world class expertise on something. What the current Yuta needs to do now is to make them bond with each other. Meika - mechanical engineer/robot/best hacker in the world Ito - world's best mecha fps gamer (she can get really violent) Mikatan - Ubersmench Rabura - Spirit Medium (who has no idea of her talent lol) current spirit Yuta might possess her at some point. Noticed this too. W = Double Yuu Punchline = Pine Tbh, I had more fun when the plot was convoluted, it's straightforward now with the series having two episodes left. Even if it gets predictable from here on, I'm ok with it as long as the finale isn't picked from some bad end route. I want a "super happy and peaceful one." All's well that ends well. |
removed-userJun 11, 2015 1:50 PM
| Another great episode |
| How does this series still score below a 7? |
Jorjz said: Even if it gets predictable from here on, I'm ok with it as long as the finale isn't picked from some bad end route. I want a "super happy and peaceful one." All's well that ends well. Wait, isn't this original series ? There's no VN, well i didn't find. But if you mean simply bad end, personally i don't think there is a chance of it. One thing still bother me from last episode. Is Pine going to return his male body, and will others return to their original bodies too. Anyone know how much episodes left ? There no episode count even on AniDB, thought i don't try really hard to find it |
MironBiron said: How does this series still score below a 7? People using the excuse of the first 3 episodes probably which haven't been as good. People had no patience and dropped it early. |
| Very thorough and intense episode. The emotions were played quite nicely. The next two episodes will probably be shown in the same manner, so I'm hyped enough. |
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Smudy said: MironBiron said: How does this series still score below a 7? People using the excuse of the first 3 episodes probably which haven't been as good. People had no patience and dropped it early. In context only of first 6 episodes - yes, BUT ... The first 6 series was rather too complicated or just confused. And the watcher can misunderstand what is going on. Like was with me But right after that, starting from 7 episode tangle began to unravel, and you suddenly stating to understand whole things, and moments from first episodes. And it's unnecessary to say that right after that this show becomes more and more interesting very next episode ) |
| Mikatan, best hero of justice this season. <3 |
| Quality Queen. |
| holy fuck this episode was just top notch, This really might wind up getting an 8 from me if this goes on quite like it has, this episode was just so suspenseful and near the end out right hype. its a damned shame to see this series so underappreciated, its up there with kekkai as my fav of the season, though both shows i worry how they will wrap up. how many episodes of punchline are left, i could of sword it was 11 but seeing how this ep ended theres no way they can conclude everything in 1 episodes, i hope its a 13 episodes series but i guess a 12 episode one could conclude everything nicely. |
Immahnoob said: Jizzy, I know you have no idea how to argue for shit, tokiyashiro said: Jizzy as you would call yourself because youre a dick The most butthurt award goes to you And clearly you havent watched that many shows thats why you cant determine if a show is unique or not Or maybe you're just a child who likes common stuffs where hero saves the day and guys gets all the girls. Sad taste you have there kid you came up to me in the first place making you look more like a kid who got slapped without me even knowing it and start crying about it to me |
| dont tell me Yuta is gonna sacrifice himself like punching the asteroid and destroying it but he will die in the process, in that way humanity will have a bright future |
| Clocks are inconsistent again. 28 11:52 http://i.imgur.com/S3SXgWe.jpg 28 12:37 http://i.imgur.com/nM6WjwI.jpg 29 16:08 - Yuta is depressed and does nothing for 30 hours? http://i.imgur.com/6qttpMZ.jpg "Ito dies" (in previous timeline it happened on 29) 29 19:36 http://i.imgur.com/br5QDD7.jpg 28 19:41 says the clock http://i.imgur.com/oTiZk73.jpg Also in some episodes it has leading zero 1st: http://i.imgur.com/LuAe077.jpg 5th ("Ito dies"): http://i.imgur.com/MKK7kfE.jpg 7th (events of the 1st ep): http://i.imgur.com/uKZ9dxi.jpg 8th (day after Tomoda got rekt): http://i.imgur.com/y2q8Wzx.jpg But in others it doesn't 3rd (date is wrong?): http://i.imgur.com/Xz3z34C.jpg 4th (date is correct): http://i.imgur.com/8Wn5DgG.jpg 10th (date is wrong?): http://i.imgur.com/oTiZk73.jpg |
vivanJun 11, 2015 5:06 PM
| Best episode of the series |
| This show is is the best example how you should ride every show to the end just incase it turns into something good or even great. After episode 5 this show took off and now has gone from being on the "maybe drop" list to a 8/10 (posssible 9 depending on how it ends) type anime. |
| Shirayuki= Most Perfect Female MC ever |
| Yuuta x Narugino ship is now confirmed and departing in the next few seconds. |
| Seeing how Guriko cares about Chiyoko and Pine even after all she went through was great. How Pine went from gave up and succumbing to fate, then to find himself and confirming his determination to Chiyoko. Knowing that all the Pines went through a similar state of despair, and how the previous Pine that failed, just all comes together to form quite the powerful thought. Hope Chiyoko's wish to share tranquil days with Guriko is granted :/ |
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| I can't see how the asteroid problem is going to be solved without an asspull... which would be a shame, as this series has become pretty good. |
| Wait, Guriko didn't lock Yuta up? Maybe she is that confidence in her plan, or just careless. That injection from last episode seems more pointless. That damn cat should have known this already! More than 6 billion time loops and only now he discovers that the Q-may group installed that instrument onto the antenna? But wait, the way he is explaining it feels more like he knows it already and just explaining it to Yuta, if so, why don't you tell this to Yuta so that he would not go after Guriko, and btw if wasn't because Yuta disobeyed your orders not to do anything without your permission to change the timeline, we would never find out the group's plot, an important piece of information for audience to understand the story, but it's contradictory to the goal and motive of the characters. The cat didn't want Yuta to do anything, if Yuta did anything without his permission he would fail, but Yuta cannot just sit there and repeat what happened in the last time line because we know what's gonna happen, and now the show is just rely on Yuta's disobedient to tell the story, that would result in his dead, but he would still reasonably fail if he didn't. I don't how but Uchikoshi somehow managed to create a paradox other than the time paradox. "The future of human lies in their hands..." then why do you impose such restriction on Yuta's decision making? If he is the only one can make different decisions in the time loop. How's your broken rib cage? So you were faking it, right? I would care more if Yuta is not such a tool and bland character, his only defining trait is that he wants to save everyone, and Mikatan is just way underdeveloped, not only she just accepted what Meika told her to do in the first place, what's her struggle and thoughts on the whole self-sacrificing for the greater good thing? There's lots of opportunities for development, is this what Uchikoshi called "characters"? Train wreck! Subtle. Turn off the music. I want this scene to be just Yuta being delusional. That would be hilarious. How does Uchikoshi wrap up everything in just one episode? Second season? No. |
| Aww, Yuuta couldn't prevent VR-1 from heading straight to earth. Guriko, Pine, and Chiyoko reunite! Dat buildup. Dat preview. |
I’m always searching for something, for someone. This feeling has possessed me I think, from that day… That day when the stars came falling. |
abyss333 said: This show is is the best example how you should ride every show to the end just incase it turns into something good or even great. After episode 5 this show took off and now has gone from being on the "maybe drop" list to a 8/10 (posssible 9 depending on how it ends) type anime. Just "7" (at best) for me. Show has a few too many "build-up" episodes and the characters are just tolerable without really being outstanding. My interest in Punchline mainly comes from the narrative and how it's a show about fighting fate, along with the subtle jabs this show takes at post-war Japan and how it's still affecting its youth. AaaaaaKun said: I would care more if Yuta is not such a tool and bland character, his only defining trait is that he wants to save everyone Actually, it could be argued that Yuta is a representation of the hopeful side of post-war Japan's youth, struggling to look on the bright side despite Japan's failing economy and overall treatment of its young even to this day due to the country's inability to completely move on from WWII, as opposed to Mikatan (who's succumbed to Japan's current problems and can only fight a losing battle), and Guriko (who thinks that Japan is beyond saving altogether). When I look at him like that, he's kinda interesting to me. I agree his personality could use some work though. |
FlawfinderJun 11, 2015 6:55 PM
| I Write About Anime (and other stuff) At Standing On My Neck |
Smudy said: MironBiron said: How does this series still score below a 7? People using the excuse of the first 3 episodes probably which haven't been as good. People had no patience and dropped it early. I don't think it's a matter of patience. The setting is wacky as hell, which is a turn off for a lot of people. On top of that, Uchikoshi Kotaro's comedy isn't that funny for the most part. I mean, the cat porn scenes were hillarious, but still. Most of his fans on gamefaqs were actually surprised he was working on a show like this. I don't think anybody like this change in tone, in fact most were pretty skeptical. I believe this unusual setting makes it easier for him to come up with new plots twists, so that may have been one of the reasons behind his choice... but it's still one of his worst settings. This story doesn't hold a candle to any of his best works in my opinion, except for Never7. But then again, N7 isn't nearly as interesting as anything else he wrote and most of those who read it are actually fans anyway. |
FlamepriesTJun 11, 2015 8:09 PM
| I guess all that's left is that giant robot that Meika has stored under the yard. |
| Wow, could really feel the emotions this episode. |
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AaaaaaKun said: Wait, Guriko didn't lock Yuta up? Maybe she is that confidence in her plan, or just careless. That injection from last episode seems more pointless. That damn cat should have known this already! More than 6 billion time loops and only now he discovers that the Q-may group installed that instrument onto the antenna? But wait, the way he is explaining it feels more like he knows it already and just explaining it to Yuta, if so, why don't you tell this to Yuta so that he would not go after Guriko, and btw if wasn't because Yuta disobeyed your orders not to do anything without your permission to change the timeline, we would never find out the group's plot, an important piece of information for audience to understand the story, but it's contradictory to the goal and motive of the characters. The cat didn't want Yuta to do anything, if Yuta did anything without his permission he would fail, but Yuta cannot just sit there and repeat what happened in the last time line because we know what's gonna happen, and now the show is just rely on Yuta's disobedient to tell the story, that would result in his dead, but he would still reasonably fail if he didn't. I don't how but Uchikoshi somehow managed to create a paradox other than the time paradox. "The future of human lies in their hands..." then why do you impose such restriction on Yuta's decision making? If he is the only one can make different decisions in the time loop. How's your broken rib cage? So you were faking it, right? I would care more if Yuta is not such a tool and bland character, his only defining trait is that he wants to save everyone, and Mikatan is just way underdeveloped, not only she just accepted what Meika told her to do in the first place, what's her struggle and thoughts on the whole self-sacrificing for the greater good thing? There's lots of opportunities for development, is this what Uchikoshi called "characters"? Train wreck! Subtle. Turn off the music. I want this scene to be just Yuta being delusional. That would be hilarious. How does Uchikoshi wrap up everything in just one episode? Second season? No.  |
Xenocrisi said:  Flawfinder said: Actually, it could be argued that Yuta is a representation of the hopeful side of post-war Japan's youth, struggling to look on the bright side despite Japan's failing economy and overall treatment of its young even to this day due to the country's inability to completely move on from WWII, as opposed to Mikatan (who's succumbed to Japan's current problems and can only fight a losing battle), and Guriko (who thinks that Japan is beyond saving altogether). When I look at him like that, he's kinda interesting to me. I agree his personality could use some work though. Or even, Ito is supposed to represent the frustration of the Japanese Government trying to grant its Self-Defence Force more power to combat the increasing military challenge posed by the Chinese military, which in the eyes of the neighboring countries is a "taboo", and Ito is wrongfully bullied because of that. Meika, a brilliant computer hacker and engineer, can also be interpreted as the notion of technology isn't always reliable, especially in the wrong hands. The way Meika's action being the most critical is a reflection of the Fukushima Daiichi nuclear disaster, over confident on technology is very dangerous, something that not only the Japanese, but all of us, should be aware of. And last but not least, may I suggest that Rabura represents the conflict of Japanese traditional beliefs and culture trying to survive the modernization of Japan given how she is a gyaru but also an exorcist? The way she doesn't believe in the existence of spirits means the younger generations of Japan care less about their traditions and at the same time, she is seeking the attention and love from a foreign figure, representing the loss of identity of troubling Japanese teens. This show is much deeper than I thought. I was wrong before. ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°) |
raveninthemuddleJun 12, 2015 12:29 AM
| Intense! That Yuta fan service though. Totally forgot it was a woman's body |
vivan said: Clocks are inconsistent again. 28 11:52 http://i.imgur.com/S3SXgWe.jpg 28 12:37 http://i.imgur.com/nM6WjwI.jpg 29 16:08 - Yuta is depressed and does nothing for 30 hours? http://i.imgur.com/6qttpMZ.jpg "Ito dies" (in previous timeline it happened on 29) 29 19:36 http://i.imgur.com/br5QDD7.jpg 28 19:41 says the clock http://i.imgur.com/oTiZk73.jpg Also in some episodes it has leading zero 1st: http://i.imgur.com/LuAe077.jpg 5th ("Ito dies"): http://i.imgur.com/MKK7kfE.jpg 7th (events of the 1st ep): http://i.imgur.com/uKZ9dxi.jpg 8th (day after Tomoda got rekt): http://i.imgur.com/y2q8Wzx.jpg But in others it doesn't 3rd (date is wrong?): http://i.imgur.com/Xz3z34C.jpg 4th (date is correct): http://i.imgur.com/8Wn5DgG.jpg 10th (date is wrong?): http://i.imgur.com/oTiZk73.jpg WTF clock is such WTF, but you missed something. Zero is escaping from clocks. Jokes aside, i don't know. It shouldn't malfunction for no reason. Chronology time my picture version http://imgur.com/a/8bTji#9 anon's infographics version http://i.4cdn.org/a/1434051982088.png Dat Meika http://www.punchline.jp/story/episode11.html |
| I know that my English isn't good so, please, bear with me. |
| and so he lost |
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| Wait even if Yuta somehow stops the meteor from collision what will happen to the current spirit Yuta that's wandering out there? |
| More Rabura pls (´･ω･) |
| I'm not getting enough vegetables. I'm just not getting enough vegetables. |
AaaaaaKun said: This show is much deeper than I thought. I was wrong before. ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°) You're not wrong. It's just my opinion based on what I see along with what I know of Japan's youth culture and how you can weave that into the narrative (though the show needs to conclude before I can make a surefire judgment). I'd never go so far as to call this show (or anything else I like for that matter) objectively good. And for the record, I don't care if the author intended it or not. As far as I'm concerned, the author is dead. Thank you for that interpretation of the other characters by the way. Previously, I just pictured Ito as a common victim of Japan's crimes. AaaaaaKun said: Wait, Guriko didn't lock Yuta up? Maybe she is that confidence in her plan, or just careless. That injection from last episode seems more pointless. Forgot to respond to this earlier, but didn't the injection from last episode prevent Yuta from reaching Meika in time, causing her to send missiles at the asteroid? How is that pointless? As for Guriko just letting Yuta go, pretty sure it's both. I mean it's a f*cking asteroid. |
FlawfinderJun 12, 2015 6:20 AM
| I Write About Anime (and other stuff) At Standing On My Neck |
| Things are getting intense Hopefully, Yuta can save everyone and create a new future |
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| ...thing are getting more and more intense, this is not something you would expect from an anime titled "Punch Line" Score 7 >>> 8 |
| That was a nice build-up. Clearly to beat Guriko and his fanatics it will take the help of everybody on board to make it possible. Like Meika hacks, Ito pilots the robot (through he gaming experience), Yuta and Narugino beat Guriko and Rabura exorcises the Qmay leader. Along destroying the freaking meteor too. This will be a good ride. |
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Flawfinder said: You're not wrong. It's just my opinion based on what I see along with what I know of Japan's youth culture and how you can weave that into the narrative (though the show needs to conclude before I can make a surefire judgment). I'd never go so far as to call this show (or anything else I like for that matter) objectively good. And for the record, I don't care if the author intended it or not. As far as I'm concerned, the author is dead. Thank you for that interpretation of the other characters by the way. Previously, I just pictured Ito as a common victim of Japan's crimes. I admire your ability to appreciate the show this way. To me it's like watching a magic show, all merits come from how well the magician can maintain the illusion even though I know most of the tricks he is using, and since it is his show, the author is never dead unless in some ways intentional or not, he declared himself dead. Flawfinder said: Forgot to respond to this earlier, but didn't the injection from last episode prevent Yuta from reaching Meika in time, causing her to send missiles at the asteroid? How is that pointless? As for Guriko just letting Yuta go, pretty sure it's both. I mean it's a f*cking asteroid. Maybe "pointless" is a poor choice of word, what I was trying to say is Uchikoshi failed to use that to its full potential to further characterize Guriko. Sure she prevented Yuta to contact Meika in time, but in terms of Guroko's character it did more harm than good. So Guriko just told Yuta everything like what a typical villain would do, and it's happened after she stabbed him, what if the anesthetic failed to affect Yuta, he was buffed at that moment, even if the anesthetic worked as intended wouldn't it make more sense for Guriko to told him the plan after she knew the anesthetic was starting to affect him? She doesn't have much characterization at that moment but she is got to be pretty smart to be the head of an organization right? And Guriko letting Yuta go it's just clumsy. Why not just lock him up to eliminate one threat to her plan, and she is going to explain the "W" thing to him later why not do that now and get Mikatan later, why the extra trouble of luring Ito out when you can just threaten Mikatan with Yuta's safety? If not for this we won't have those emotional scenes and it is at the cost of Guriko's being a capable, threatening and smart villain. She doesn't take advantage of her situation, and she would execute her plan in a convoluted manner including dating Rabura instead of going straight to Meika. She prepared a syringe filled with anesthetic was supposed to be an indication of her being smart and always prepared, at least it's how I make sense of that situation, and I would like to see these traits from Guriko's character, but everything happened next is just contradictory to my theory and it just became another example of putting the plot before the characters. Just in case someone wants to argue that Guriko is not mentally stable to excuse her mistakes, but that is just like excusing badly-written teenage characters just because they are supposed to act that way. |
raveninthemuddleJun 12, 2015 11:41 AM
| Finally a good episode, and it's probably the best one so far, the build up is pretty exciting and the drama wasn't too forced. How many episodes are left? |
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