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Jun 5, 2015 9:32 AM
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Now I'm guessing most people know Gigguk and that he recently posted a video bringing up the topic. And it's been fun watching the opinions. However I really agree with this one:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2twwMBqGVpE

What does everyone else think? Using the actually meaning of the term Golden Age and not just the "my favorite animes are from this time so it wins by default" mentality.
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Jun 5, 2015 9:33 AM
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Jun 5, 2015 9:35 AM
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Gigguk? Is a popular Youtube anime reviewer.

Here's his initial video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hzT3X66FepU
Jun 5, 2015 9:35 AM
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It might be true that previous years were better in terms of quality but there is no 'golden age' you speak of.
All credit goes to Sacred.
Jun 5, 2015 9:39 AM
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oh fuck, that made me cringe so hard

terrible video
Jun 5, 2015 9:39 AM
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Well Gigguk did pose the question, so a question deems an answer. That's also why I like Fuma's stance since he says that it doesn't exist because that's part of the concept of a Golden Age, but for the sake of discussion...an answer it usually a good concept. Haha!
Jun 5, 2015 9:41 AM
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I don't really have a "golden age". I like anime from pretty much all era's.





Ahhh... Is this the blood... The blood of the Dark Soul?
Jun 5, 2015 9:43 AM
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Reeceiam said:
I don't really have a "golden age". I like anime from pretty much all era's.


I do too, but not the 2000s/2010s so much. It's extremely difficult to find watchable Anime from those decades.

Jun 5, 2015 9:48 AM
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I don't have prejuices against anime for being made in a certain age in first place, so i don't have a golden one either.
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Praland said:
I don't have prejuices against anime for being made in a certain age in first place, so i don't have a golden one either.
most of your 10's are either from 03-06 or 09-12 though
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oh fuck, that made me cringe so hard

terrible video


It was even worse than I expected.
Jun 5, 2015 9:57 AM

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I've seen this brought up before, but I still haven't watched the video.

Anyways, saying "Golden Age," I would imagine it to be a time when the largest amount of anime was released, a time where the most amount of influential anime were released, or the time where the most was sold. Even then though, that's based on country. So, at the end, it's a convenient term used to describe a favorite or preferred time in anime's history. In some ways though, it's still nice that there's no one Golden Age. It means that every time period has its own value, and the absence of any of them wouldn't have led to where we are today.

Unless, of course, one were to hate today's anime.
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romagia said:
Praland said:
I don't have prejuices against anime for being made in a certain age in first place, so i don't have a golden one either.
most of your 10's are either from 03-06 or 09-12 though

Interesting, still i won't consider them "golden"
Jun 5, 2015 10:00 AM

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KLKfanboy said:
oh fuck, that made me cringe so hard

terrible video


^

Golden age,smolden age.
There has always been and will be good and bad series released at the same time...
I sometimes watch chinese cartoons/stuff and share unsolicited opinions.
Jun 5, 2015 10:03 AM

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Well, 10, 15 and 20 years ago there wasn't that much pressure on the studios. So they were easily able to pull of shows with 25+ episodes.

Nowadays they struggle to even make a show that has 10+ episodes.

I watched Great Teacher Onizuka recently. And the first episode was over 40 mins long. That were great times lol :D
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Now I'm guessing most people know Gigguk and that he recently posted a video bringing up the topic. And it's been fun watching the opinions. However I really agree with this one:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2twwMBqGVpE

What does everyone else think? Using the actually meaning of the term Golden Age and not just the "my favorite animes are from this time so it wins by default" mentality.
i only know about this gigguk guy from the recent TAS response to it lol;

here is his take on the golden age which might be interesting
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The 3 series that lead the way, illuminating the path of darkness with light towards the future.
Truly inspirational series that have ushered in the golden era.

Discuss
http://myanimelist.net/forum/?topicid=1361150&show=0
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I haven't watched the video you posted, but there really isn't a whole lot to discuss anyway, Gigguk's absolutely right. If you're talking about a golden age in terms of revenue, then there surely is one year or maybe even a certain timespan in which anime sold particularly well, but other than that you can't really measure the success or influence that a series had in an objective way. The majority of fans are simply using the phrasing in order to refer to the period when their favourites aired, anyway.
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golden age goes hand in hand the economic golden age in Japan
"If you tremble with indignation at every injustice, then you are a comrade of mine"

When the union's inspiration through the workers' blood shall run
There can be no power greater anywhere beneath the sun
Yet what force on earth is weaker than the feeble strength of one
For the Union makes us strong
Jun 5, 2015 11:10 AM

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Every time i see threads about golden age.
I think of this picture.

Jun 5, 2015 11:27 AM

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The beginning and end of hentai is the Golden Age of anime.
Jun 5, 2015 11:52 AM

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Oni Chichi began the Golden Age.
Jun 5, 2015 12:10 PM

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When will you learn that MAL users generally dislike most YouTube anime personalities?
Jun 5, 2015 12:36 PM

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There is no golden age. There is only an age, nothing more. What? I want to sound cool sometimes.

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When will you learn that MAL users generally dislike most YouTube anime personalities?


Soooo.... you guys are magically gonna start disliking me when I start up my review channel?
Jun 5, 2015 12:44 PM

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So quick question,i'm new here(but i'm watching anime for about 2 years,i just slacked on making MAL Account),which YouTube anime related channel do you guys like?


Try out DouchebagChocolat. Doesn't upload much, but when he does upload, his stuff is golden.
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The golden age was never here and judgement day will never come.

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Gigguk? Is a popular Youtube anime reviewer.


We don't like him.
I am important. I have a girlfriend. Check out my podcast
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sullynathan said:
When will you learn that MAL users generally dislike most YouTube anime personalities?
coz people fear criticisms i guess
ist stupid to hate YT reviewers tho
they review for other peoples sake and hate them coz their favrit animu received unwanted criticism from them smh
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The entire Podtaku crew are just awful
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HybridLR said:
The Golden Age is not a subjective topic


Yeah, I stopped taking you seriously round about here. Sorry lad XD

Gigguk's pretty much on the money at the end of the day, though Digibro adds onto that with a general consensus, though even then it's the word of the masses and not of each individual.
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15 to 20 years from now these so called "new" anime will become old and considered a classic. Can you still say that our era today will not be considered "golden" in the future?
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MrMik1995 said:
So quick question,i'm new here(but i'm watching anime for about 2 years,i just slacked on making MAL Account),which YouTube anime related channel do you guys like?


Try out DouchebagChocolat. Doesn't upload much, but when he does upload, his stuff is golden.
no it's not, he is just as cancerous and outright retarded as the others
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It depends on what you value, if it's characters and story, then the 90s/2000s are vastly superior than the 70s/80s, not just because of the number of anime but simply due to the level some decades never reached, the 70s/80s is mostly filled with animal mains, early magical girl, and cheesy mecha's such as the original macross were aliens are afraid of "love" lmao, the 90s thankfully got serious after akira did well and dived into more adult matters, not to say there's not a bunch of cheesy over the top shit in the 90s and so on, but there is a more diverse nature in these decades, I would prolly pick the 2000s, everything before the moe parade had decent anime every year.
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JD2411 said:
yhunata said:


Try out DouchebagChocolat. Doesn't upload much, but when he does upload, his stuff is golden.
no it's not, he is just as cancerous and outright retarded as the others


How did he hurt you JD, is it because he doesn't like Clannad
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JD2411 said:
yhunata said:


Try out DouchebagChocolat. Doesn't upload much, but when he does upload, his stuff is golden.
no it's not, he is just as cancerous and outright retarded as the others

I think cancerous is going a little too far, though he hardly uploads, and whenever he does, it's a either a video of his cats, lizards, or random videos with no real purpose. Even once in a blue moon when he makes an actual review or "should you watch", half of it isn't even serious. When he talks seriously, he's ok, but I don't want to dig through all that bullshit just to get a serious review or opinion that is hardly worth it.
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That was really bad. There is no golden age but its definitely been a decline. I mean we have anime like Tatami Galaxy, Ping Pong, Humanity has Declined, Nichibros, etc. but its simply not been up to par with the 2000s and before.

Yes because comedies meant for a.d.d level headed folks are what's good nowadays, get real...
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MaskTai87 said:
Rebyuuu said:

Yes because comedies meant for a.d.d level headed folks are what's good nowadays, get real...


U wot

n0thing m8t
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Rebyuuu said:

Yes because comedies meant for a.d.d level headed folks are what's good nowadays, get real...


U wot

If you actually think this is good, I feel sorry for you
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I1Fa9TQMaZg
Jun 7, 2015 6:21 AM

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I've said it before lel, there is no "golden age" in terms of quality. Every decade has its own good and bad. I woudn't say there's a decline, either. People just tend to forget the bad anime of the old days, and focus on the good ones, making the illusion of "every anime back then was so good omg".

If anything, the recent years are the "golden age" since anime is getting more popular and getting more money.


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U wot

If you actually think this is good, I feel sorry for you
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I1Fa9TQMaZg
Jintai is a subtle satire of human interaction and flaws, and has one of the best narratives in any anime I've seen. It stays "deep" but entertaining at the same time, never feeling "pretentious".


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I've said it before lel, there is no "golden age" in terms of quality. Every decade has its own good and bad. I woudn't say there's a decline, either. People just tend to forget the bad anime of the old days, and focus on the good ones, making the illusion of "every anime back then was so good omg".

If anything, the recent years are the "golden age" since anime is getting more popular and getting more money.

I disagree, some decades clearly have worse quality in terms of characters and story and frankly animation quality if you're an "art-house" fanboy, it's more of explaining why you prefer one choice over the other instead of a cop-out such as "everyone is gonna like what they like" I can explain why death note has superior characters to madoka magica, if you can't come up with a valid reason besides, it fits the anime!, then it's pretty clear which show has better characters, then again you might be a prepubescent girl and prefer cute or sad things over story and character.
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Rebyuuu said:

If you actually think this is good, I feel sorry for you
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I1Fa9TQMaZg


Man you're gonna have to try harder.

don't really need to, char is one of the most overrated characters in all of anime, he has doing nothing out of the ordinary, keep living in... oh wait, you think texhnolyze is a 10/10 lemme guess why, It was so sad and the atmosphere was amazing, or perhaps you're actually dumb enough to think the characters had any depth and were well done, lmao they just fit the nihilistic shit show that had nothing to offer besides hopelessness.
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Rebyuuu said:
MaskTai87 said:


U wot

If you actually think this is good, I feel sorry for you
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I1Fa9TQMaZg


Gr8 b8 m8 I r8 8/8

U dun ivin anderstund wot Jinrui wuz ol abot.
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AzureDaora said:
I've said it before lel, there is no "golden age" in terms of quality. Every decade has its own good and bad. I woudn't say there's a decline, either. People just tend to forget the bad anime of the old days, and focus on the good ones, making the illusion of "every anime back then was so good omg".

If anything, the recent years are the "golden age" since anime is getting more popular and getting more money.

I disagree, some decades clearly have worse quality in terms of characters and story and frankly animation quality if you're an "art-house" fanboy, it's more of explaining why you prefer one choice over the other instead of a cop-out such as "everyone is gonna like what they like" I can explain why death note has superior characters to madoka magica, if you can't come up with a valid reason besides, it fits the anime!, then it's pretty clear which show has better characters, then again you might be a prepubescent girl and prefer cute or sad things over story and character.
Not 'clearly".
Please, enlighten me, master of objectivity. How your viewpoints in storytelling and character interaction and development encompass the entirety of every entire age, how you have taken the culture during those times, everything else, and tell me how you've watched every anime in a certain age. please

I can explain, too.


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AzureDaora said:
Rebyuuu said:

I disagree, some decades clearly have worse quality in terms of characters and story and frankly animation quality if you're an "art-house" fanboy, it's more of explaining why you prefer one choice over the other instead of a cop-out such as "everyone is gonna like what they like" I can explain why death note has superior characters to madoka magica, if you can't come up with a valid reason besides, it fits the anime!, then it's pretty clear which show has better characters, then again you might be a prepubescent girl and prefer cute or sad things over story and character.
Not 'clearly".
Please, enlighten me, master of objectivity. How your viewpoints in storytelling and character interaction and development encompass the entirety of an entire decade, and tell me how you've watched every anime in a certain age. please

I can explain, too.

70s/80s do not have quantity or quality of anime from the 80s/90s, by sheer numbers, by sheer concepts, by sheer characters, by sheer anime, now if we're comparing things you can bust out one of your fav anime and we can discuss why i believe a show has a better story or characters, usually it comes down to what the characters did in the anime, and for the story, how many plot holes or nonsensical explanations they used, I look at things in an analytical mindset, not "OMG IT WAS SO SAD THE END OF ANGEL BEATS MADE ME CRY 10/10 MASTERPIECE". The game is on love.
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Char Aznable is a national treasure to the people of glorious Nippon
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Trick thread. There is no "Golden Age"
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hybreezy said:
Char Aznable is a national treasure to the people of glorious Nippon

I'm not a 50 year old Japanese man, sorry senpai.


well certainly not with that attitude
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AzureDaora said:
Not 'clearly".
Please, enlighten me, master of objectivity. How your viewpoints in storytelling and character interaction and development encompass the entirety of an entire decade, and tell me how you've watched every anime in a certain age. please

I can explain, too.

70s/80s do not have quantity or quality of anime from the 80s/90s, by sheer numbers, by sheer concepts, by sheer characters, by sheer anime, now if we're comparing things you can bust out one of your fav anime and we can discuss why i believe a show has a better story or characters, usually it comes down to what the characters did in the anime, and for the story, how many plot holes or nonsensical explanations they used, I look at things in an analytical mindset, not "OMG IT WAS SO SAD THE END OF ANGEL BEATS MADE ME CRY 10/10 MASTERPIECE". The game is on love.

You're using so much buzzwords I'm literally laughing in here. pls

Oh wow, you look at things in an analytical mindset. How special. However, your analytical viewpoints are clearly lacking in a lot of ways.
Let's see here,
1. The number of anime being released each year is irrelevant in correlation to quality.
2. Concept or premise does not matter much, especially in anime where you have so much odd concepts that somehow work. Execution is more important than the premise, and execution is seen through a mostly subjective viewpoint.
3. Not every story is character-driven. An anime can succeed without fully fleshed characters, as a story can focus on world building and plot.
4. I have no idea what "by sheer anime" means.
5. Everything you've said contains no proof as to why everything in this age is better than another certain age.
6. We're not talking about specific anime; we're talking about entire decades. Which you've clearly watched everything on a certain decade. Rite? lel
7. Oh wow, Non-sequitur logical fallacy. "Sheer anime" and "sheer numbers" have little to do with what would be the golden age of anime is. The argument is either "in sales" or "in quality". The former being the recent years and the latter having an unobtainable answer due to the viewpoint of quality being mostly subjective in nature.
8. Plot holes and "nonsensical explanations" are not valid criticisms for every anime. Nonsensical anime like Nichijou or Ninja Slayer are clearly not viewed for the story. Something like Mawaru Penguindrum is so vague and symbolic in nature that one could argue that there are "nonsensical explanations", except that the execution of Penguindrum is mostly about symbolism and is thus relative as to how the certain viewer sees the show, as interpretations about symbolism is loose and is not hardened by the word-of-god.
9. "What the characters did in the anime" can be subjective. Some may look at a certain action as stupid while some might see at as a sane action. It all depends on how the viewer sees the anime as and how he relates to the characters based on his own experiences, depending on what kind of anime it is.

Don't try and act like a pseudo-intellectual; there are a lot of people who will punish you for that. Contrary to popular belief, there are a lot of smart people in MAL that can easily refute (maybe) everything I just said and make me look like a puny cat in comparison.
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no it's not, he is just as cancerous and outright retarded as the others


How did he hurt you JD, is it because he doesn't like Clannad
now I hate him even more!!!!

it's because he is your typical tryhard /a/-pandering anime fan. He is generally unfunny unless you're some edgelord or very childish. He is also extremely bad at reviewing and barely counts as one if I'm completely honest
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No such thing. It would require making generalizations on a galactic scale. Generalization is stupid.
If you generalize, you're wrong.
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