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Nov 15, 2014 2:15 PM

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Higashi_no_Kaze said:
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It did? Which tropes are we talking about? If anything, it was not similar to the normal shoujo anime out there.


I like the show but the fantasy setting alone doesn't make it void of any shoujo tropes. The whole 'love triangle' with her, Hak and Su-won is pretty clichéd, just like her still having feelings for the man who killed her father in front of her own eyes. In terms of romance it is a very typical shoujo setup, but it's embedded in a much more interesting concept and story than your usual highschool drama.

Anyway, dropping a show because it takes its time to set up things strikes me as typical for our low-attention-span times. I wasn't surprised to see you only have 4 shows that are longer than 2-cour on your completed list if stuff like that bothers you (fst) that much :P.
If it ends up just being a 1-cour with that pace it will definitely suck, but there are countless great 2cour or longer shows that aren't even close to 'getting to the point' after 3 episodes. I don't think a good show SHOULD get to the point after only 3 episodes, unless it's 1-cour maybe. The lack of being able to take their time and properly introduce and set up things is one of the most annoying things about the modern tradition of having shorter and shorter anime seasons, imo. So even though some of the directing in the early Yona episodes was questionable, I still appreciate their approach and just hope it's a sign that the show is planned to be a bit longer and not end without ever climaxing like Nobunaga Concerto.

I wasn't saying that it was void of shoujo tropes because of the setting but the historical counterpart already made it worth watching even if everything else was cliche or generic (two words people always use when talking about shoujo lmao). It's most likely longer than one cour because it hasn't even gotten the announcement at this point (halfway in the season) that it'd be only 12/13 eps. I won't argue about the love triangle because it's true that it's pretty cliche, although there are cliche love triangles everywhere.
Nov 15, 2014 5:11 PM

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Zergneedsfood said:
Jizzy. Fuck you. ;_;
HAHAHAAHAHA i cannot die.

Immahnoob said:
Jizzy, I know you have no idea how to argue for shit,

tokiyashiro said:

Jizzy as you would call yourself because youre a dick The most butthurt award goes to you And clearly you havent watched that many shows thats why you cant determine if a show is unique or not Or maybe you're just a child who likes common stuffs where hero saves the day and guys gets all the girls. Sad taste you have there kid you came up to me in the first place making you look more like a kid who got slapped without me even knowing it and start crying about it to me

Nov 15, 2014 5:54 PM

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I've done so much stupid shit making me worthy of a ban and so far ive only received like 1 warning and thats it

Immahnoob said:
Jizzy, I know you have no idea how to argue for shit,

tokiyashiro said:

Jizzy as you would call yourself because youre a dick The most butthurt award goes to you And clearly you havent watched that many shows thats why you cant determine if a show is unique or not Or maybe you're just a child who likes common stuffs where hero saves the day and guys gets all the girls. Sad taste you have there kid you came up to me in the first place making you look more like a kid who got slapped without me even knowing it and start crying about it to me

Nov 15, 2014 6:14 PM

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Maybe its just cause im so used to not be self contained literally everywhere else that im amazed im not banned yet here even if i dont act out much.

Immahnoob said:
Jizzy, I know you have no idea how to argue for shit,

tokiyashiro said:

Jizzy as you would call yourself because youre a dick The most butthurt award goes to you And clearly you havent watched that many shows thats why you cant determine if a show is unique or not Or maybe you're just a child who likes common stuffs where hero saves the day and guys gets all the girls. Sad taste you have there kid you came up to me in the first place making you look more like a kid who got slapped without me even knowing it and start crying about it to me

Nov 15, 2014 6:37 PM

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Let's try and keep the talk over/under or anime or weaboo or something something related. Else people might think we're just another chat thread!

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Speaking of Concerto, does anybody know how the anime compares with the manga? The pacing especially. I'd assume from the anime that it just galloped through everything at break-neck speed, but I haven't actually seen anyone talk about the manga (not that i've done any real looking.)

From what I've seen skimming through the manga, the anime more or less followed a chapter an episode up to roughly halfway. In ep. 10
This happens in Ch. 38 of the manga, end of volume 7. Volume 8 was when Yasuke is introduced. Plenty character development was skipped.
Thanks. It's a shame they didn't have the episodes to give it all the proper working then. I suppose that's what the live-drama will be for.
Nov 15, 2014 8:07 PM

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Lets be real here, the topic of over/underrated anime has been discussed to death over 5 iterations of this thread, the only way to keep the (cancerous) flame alive is with off topic chat.

Speaking of which, I'd like to point out that I actively encouraged people to spam that thread to try and get it to page 30 before the mods noticed, and I didn't even get a warning.

Talk about double standards. Or laziness. Whichever.

Also, I only said what I did about Akatsuki no Yona because while watching it, I just had the impression that I was watching a weighted average of every shoujo manga adaptation ever made.
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fst said:
Also, I only said what I did about Akatsuki no Yona because while watching it, I just had the impression that I was watching a weighted average of every shoujo manga adaptation ever made.

Wait, which shoujo manga adaptations do you think are good? Just to get a sense of your standards. : o
Nov 15, 2014 8:18 PM

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Ckan said:
Let's try and keep the talk over/under or anime or weaboo or something something related. Else people might think we're just another chat thread!
Rabu Raibu is underrated, really not what I'd expect from an idol anime. It handled it's huge cast of characters well, giving each a one or two episodes of development, and pulled you into the story.

Also, the game is pretty fun.
Nov 15, 2014 8:43 PM

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mayukachan said:
fst said:
Also, I only said what I did about Akatsuki no Yona because while watching it, I just had the impression that I was watching a weighted average of every shoujo manga adaptation ever made.

Wait, which shoujo manga adaptations do you think are good? Just to get a sense of your standards. : o


At first I was like "shit, is this going to be the part where I reveal that I haven't actually seen any shoujo adaptations? Because I can't actually think of any"

So I went through my list, and I thought, oh, no, I'll be ok. Then I double checked.

Turns out, this is actually the part where I reveal that most of the stuff I thought was shoujo is actually shounen, seinen or josei. Mostly seinen. Don't blame me, these demographic classifications don't make any sense anyways.

So I don't actually have a shoujo adaptation on my completed. All I have are 2 shoujo mangas. Which begs the question why I thought it was a cliche storm, cause I just don't know anymore.

...

Hana no Namae was pretty alright, that's all I can say.
Nov 15, 2014 8:52 PM

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Cupquake said:
Rabu Raibu is underrated, really not what I'd expect from an idol anime. It handled it's huge cast of characters well, giving each a one or two episodes of development, and pulled you into the story.

Also, the game is pretty fun.
I certainly liked it a lot more than Idolmas, but is it really underrated? 7.75 isn't bad for something so absolutely moe+pandering-like - at least on MAL.

That said, I still haven't finished S2 and Il liked AKB0048 more.

fst said:
Lets be real here, the topic of over/underrated anime has been discussed to death over 5 iterations of this thread, the only way to keep the (cancerous) flame alive is with off topic chat.
No.... this can't be true. I won't permit it!
Nov 15, 2014 9:09 PM

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Zergneedsfood said:
I read a shit ton of shoujo one shots LOL I think every once in a while I just need dat doki doki in muh life.

It's better to just read a 40+ chapter shoujo than waste your time with a short one. Unless you want to increase your MAL.
Nov 15, 2014 9:15 PM

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Ckan said:
I certainly liked it a lot more than Idolmas, but is it really underrated? 7.75 isn't bad for something so absolutely moe+pandering-like - at least on MAL.

That said, I still haven't finished S2 and Il liked AKB0048 more.
i have to admit, I didn't really look at the MAL score...7.75 is pretty reasonable for season one. I thought season two was miles better though, so 8.13 is a little low.
Nov 16, 2014 1:05 PM

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Akame ga Kill just went full retard.

Apparently it's anime original stuff though so it's cool. Kind of.
Nov 16, 2014 1:23 PM

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BotatoPriest said:
Akame ga Kill just went full retard.

Apparently it's anime original stuff though so it's cool. Kind of.
What happened?
Nov 16, 2014 1:23 PM

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wasnt akame ga kill always supposed to be full retard mode?

Immahnoob said:
Jizzy, I know you have no idea how to argue for shit,

tokiyashiro said:

Jizzy as you would call yourself because youre a dick The most butthurt award goes to you And clearly you havent watched that many shows thats why you cant determine if a show is unique or not Or maybe you're just a child who likes common stuffs where hero saves the day and guys gets all the girls. Sad taste you have there kid you came up to me in the first place making you look more like a kid who got slapped without me even knowing it and start crying about it to me

Nov 16, 2014 1:24 PM

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JizzyHitler said:
wasnt akame ga kill always supposed to be full retard mode?
Yes. If it was bad enough for Botato to have that sort of reaction, I'm very interested
Nov 16, 2014 1:26 PM

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I once tried to read Akame ga Kiru. Never again.

The edginess was too mature for my mind.
Nov 16, 2014 1:27 PM

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Cupquake said:
BotatoPriest said:
Akame ga Kill just went full retard.

Apparently it's anime original stuff though so it's cool. Kind of.
What happened?
Oh nothing, the usual. Except this time it just came out of nowhere. Usually they build up for that stuff and you see it coming, but not this time.

To be more specific, spoilers for episode 20:
Nov 16, 2014 1:29 PM

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BotatoPriest said:
Cupquake said:
What happened?
Oh nothing, the usual. Except this time it just came out of nowhere. Usually they build up for that stuff and you see it coming, but not this time.

To be more specific, spoilers for episode 20:
LOL

well, it does make sense because

Manga spoiler:
[spoiler]
[spoiler]
Nov 16, 2014 1:31 PM

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Zergneedsfood said:
Oh that actually happens?

lol

This show really likes pissing people off.
My favorite grill is still alive

I've been praying for months that she stays that way. Probably in vain.
Nov 16, 2014 1:31 PM

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I honestly feel bad for fans of the manga. I mean it was being pretty faithful from what I hear and then they pull this shit. Holy damn.
Nov 16, 2014 1:33 PM

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Zergneedsfood said:
Who's your favorite grill?

Kurome

The death flags have been getting real though
Nov 16, 2014 1:34 PM

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Well, it is called Akame ga Kill after all.
Nov 16, 2014 1:35 PM

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Zergneedsfood said:
Cupquake said:
My favorite grill is still alive

I've been praying for months that she stays that way. Probably in vain.
Who's your favorite grill?

FOR REAL?

Bumping priority to read the manga out of my never ending backlog~
Nov 16, 2014 1:38 PM

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Zergneedsfood said:
You hate her Botato? :(
Yes I do.

Well okay maybe not as much as I used to after episode 19


But yes, I do.
Nov 16, 2014 1:42 PM

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Wait a sec, zerg gave a fake spoiler

Nov 16, 2014 1:45 PM

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Cupquake said:
Wait a sec, zerg gave a fake spoiler

Oh ffs. And I thought something good happened.

To be honest when I pick the manga up (whenever that happens) I'll probably drop it when Wave/Tatsumi/Akame die.
Nov 16, 2014 2:18 PM

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Zergneedsfood said:
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Wait a sec, zerg gave a fake spoiler

Oh, rofl. Mine is the pink haired girl.

Nov 16, 2014 2:37 PM

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Yea, this series' only distinguishing feature is basically that anybody can die.

Except Esdeath, Tatsumi and Akame. And maybe a few others.
Nov 16, 2014 3:03 PM

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By the way, anyone who hasn't read HakoMari should stop everything they're doing and read it immediately.

I know it's irrelevant to this thread, but HakoMari is underrated until it takes the #1 spot from Berserk manga.
Nov 16, 2014 3:14 PM

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BotatoPriest said:
By the way, anyone who hasn't read HakoMari should stop everything they're doing and read it immediately.

I know it's irrelevant to this thread, but HakoMari is underrated until it takes the #1 spot from Berserk manga.
+1

Volume 7 needs to come out right now T_T

Although Berserk is good in it's own way, I don't agree with it's rank in general. It basically turned into a battle shounen after the GA arc. A good battle shounen with amazing art, but still not super outstanding.
Nov 16, 2014 3:25 PM

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I read it.

It's shit.

Stop grossly overhyping this series.
Nov 16, 2014 3:35 PM

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You're talking to fanboys here
Nov 16, 2014 4:31 PM

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Man I haven't even watched Evangelion and I know Captain Earth just pulled an Evangelion at the end of episode 22.
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Nov 16, 2014 6:22 PM

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Zergneedsfood said:
so i'm 15 episodes into revolutionary girl utena

this show is definitely 5deep3me
Time to take it off the old ptw then
Nov 16, 2014 6:42 PM

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Man, all these Akam spoiler tags. Tempting.

Didn't recognise the new look, Reaper.
Nov 16, 2014 11:02 PM
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I didn't know this existed.

It's okay though since I hate you all too.
Nov 16, 2014 11:03 PM

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ReaperCreeper said:
Man I haven't even watched Evangelion and I know Captain Earth just pulled an Evangelion at the end of episode 22.

All mechas anime pull an Evangelion at one point lol
Even Space Battleship Yamato pulls an Evangelion
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mayukachan said:
ReaperCreeper said:
Man I haven't even watched Evangelion and I know Captain Earth just pulled an Evangelion at the end of episode 22.

All mechas anime pull an Evangelion at one point lol
Even Space Battleship Yamato pulls an Evangelion


Evangelion pulls a Valvrave though.
Nov 16, 2014 11:53 PM

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What does it mean to pull an Eva?
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hybreezy said:
What does it mean to pull an Eva?
Masturbate on some grills?
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hybreezy said:
What does it mean to pull an Eva?
I suppose it means to
Nov 17, 2014 12:01 AM

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That reminds me, End of Evangelion is underrated. It should be in top 10.

It's both a blessing and a curse that it's so deep.
Nov 17, 2014 12:34 AM

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There's a lot of things pull an Eva could mean. In the case of Captain Earth I meant.
Nov 17, 2014 4:39 AM

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I just finished Captain Earth, and well at least it's better than Buddy Complex.
Nov 17, 2014 6:07 AM

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still working up the motivation to bother watching buddy complex's finale, I didnt think it was even possible to get cancelled after only a single cour like it did. Partially tragic cause it feels like they were banking on the 2nd part but otherwise not tragic because god damn was its start bad

Immahnoob said:
Jizzy, I know you have no idea how to argue for shit,

tokiyashiro said:

Jizzy as you would call yourself because youre a dick The most butthurt award goes to you And clearly you havent watched that many shows thats why you cant determine if a show is unique or not Or maybe you're just a child who likes common stuffs where hero saves the day and guys gets all the girls. Sad taste you have there kid you came up to me in the first place making you look more like a kid who got slapped without me even knowing it and start crying about it to me

Nov 17, 2014 7:04 AM

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Cupquake said:
BotatoPriest said:
By the way, anyone who hasn't read HakoMari should stop everything they're doing and read it immediately.

I know it's irrelevant to this thread, but HakoMari is underrated until it takes the #1 spot from Berserk manga.
+1

Volume 7 needs to come out right now T_T

Although Berserk is good in it's own way, I don't agree with it's rank in general. It basically turned into a battle shounen after the GA arc. A good battle shounen with amazing art, but still not super outstanding.
I have yet to read Berserk manga. Every time I consider starting it I remember it's on an indefinite hiatus.

With Mikage he at least tweeted that he's ~40% done with volume 7 of HakoMari a couple weeks back, which is going to be the finale.

I might re-read the series before volume 7 drops. I wonder if it will be as good the second time around.

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I read it.

It's shit.

Stop grossly overhyping this series.
Hey, it combined what I liked the most about Death Note and Code Geass, even made it better, and I am a huge fanboy of both. I'd say I'm being very reasonable, considering.
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What does it mean to pull an Eva?

Some mindfuck trippy shit. Or an episode where the main pilot loses all sense of logic and just starts screaming near the end of the episode (Argevellon recently did this huehue)
Nov 17, 2014 4:09 PM

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mayukachan said:
hybreezy said:
What does it mean to pull an Eva?

Some mindfuck trippy shit. Or an episode where the main pilot loses all sense of logic and just starts screaming near the end of the episode (Argevellon recently did this huehue)
You know, I was and still am enjoying Argevollen so much.

But that screaming...
I just sat there and stared at my screen for a minute trying to process what happened...
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Berserk ain't on hiatus anymore botato. Two, maybe three chapters have recently been realeased with no detectable change in artstyle. Pretty admirable.
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