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Oct 31, 2014 11:16 PM
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Personally I feel neither group represents justice. Night Raid is trying to end the corruption in the capital but with killing only breeds more hatred and violence. On the other hand you have the Jaegars who are fighting for the capital and "for its people" but we all know how that goes, but at the end of the day they're trying to get rid of threats to the capital and the people. I don't think one group is better than the other, but I do value both groups ideals.
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Oct 31, 2014 11:18 PM
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obviously night raid

everyone on jaegars is bat shit crazy. (except wave. i fucking love him)
Oct 31, 2014 11:18 PM
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Neither, but Night Raid reminds me of "Light" from Death Note a tad.
Oct 31, 2014 11:22 PM
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Kagami_Hiiragi said:
Neither, but Night Raid reminds me of "Light" from Death Note a tad.


I would definitely have to agree with you never looked at it that way.
Oct 31, 2014 11:23 PM
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Sometimes the people in power cannot be reasoned with and so violence is the only solution to end oppression. In that sense, I'd say NR's cause is more sincere in its quest for the greater good.
Oct 31, 2014 11:24 PM
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This show is so extreme with everything that I wouldn't say that either side represents justice.
Oct 31, 2014 11:42 PM
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-_- This series is so black and white I don't know why this is even a question.
Oct 31, 2014 11:45 PM
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keragamming said:
-_- This series is so black and white I don't know why this is even a question.
^This
Oct 31, 2014 11:53 PM
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BUT THAT ONE JAEGER GUY LOOKS EVIL BUT HAS A WIFE AND A DAUGHTER.

SO NOT BLACK AND WHITE
Nov 1, 2014 3:13 AM

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keragamming said:
-_- This series is so black and white I don't know why this is even a question.


It mostly grey so far in the anime.

Only the PM is pure black.
ZapredonNov 1, 2014 6:58 AM
But it's important to remember that a movie review is subjective;it only gives you one person's opinion.

http://www.classzone.com/books/lnetwork_gr08/page_build.cfm?content=analyz_media&ch=30

It doesn't matter if you like LoGH,Monster etc.If you are a jobless or college/school dropout living in your mom basement, you are still an unintelligent loser. Taste in anime does not make you a better person.If elitist don't exist, casual pleb and shit taste also don't exist.
Nov 1, 2014 6:44 AM

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http://easydamus.com/alignment.html

Read and decide which side each faction represents.

I'd say its Chaotic Good (NR) vs Lawful Neutral (Jeagers)... but the Capitol is literally run by a Lawful Evil Dictator.
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Nov 1, 2014 7:02 AM

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D3pthCharge said:
http://easydamus.com/alignment.html

Read and decide which side each faction represents.

I'd say its Chaotic Good (NR) vs Lawful Neutral (Jeagers)... but the Capitol is literally run by a Lawful Evil Dictator.


So only the PM is pure black.
But it's important to remember that a movie review is subjective;it only gives you one person's opinion.

http://www.classzone.com/books/lnetwork_gr08/page_build.cfm?content=analyz_media&ch=30

It doesn't matter if you like LoGH,Monster etc.If you are a jobless or college/school dropout living in your mom basement, you are still an unintelligent loser. Taste in anime does not make you a better person.If elitist don't exist, casual pleb and shit taste also don't exist.
Nov 1, 2014 7:20 AM

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Zapredon said:
D3pthCharge said:
http://easydamus.com/alignment.html

Read and decide which side each faction represents.

I'd say its Chaotic Good (NR) vs Lawful Neutral (Jeagers)... but the Capitol is literally run by a Lawful Evil Dictator.


So only the PM is pure black.


Pretty much... which is quite unfortunate, quite the cartoonish evil villain that is given no motivation besides power and control.

But then again I guess you can infer the kingdom's been progressively rotting for many years internally.
Nov 1, 2014 7:43 AM

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D3pthCharge said:
Zapredon said:


So only the PM is pure black.


Pretty much... which is quite unfortunate, quite the cartoonish evil villain that is given no motivation besides power and control.

But then again I guess you can infer the kingdom's been progressively rotting for many years internally.


He remind me of World Noble/Tenryuubito from One Piece who are also cartoonish evil villain.
But it's important to remember that a movie review is subjective;it only gives you one person's opinion.

http://www.classzone.com/books/lnetwork_gr08/page_build.cfm?content=analyz_media&ch=30

It doesn't matter if you like LoGH,Monster etc.If you are a jobless or college/school dropout living in your mom basement, you are still an unintelligent loser. Taste in anime does not make you a better person.If elitist don't exist, casual pleb and shit taste also don't exist.
Nov 1, 2014 7:49 AM

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Night Raid, because they are trying to stop the injustices that the capital are doing (like the slaughter houses, etc). Killing someone who's done crazy shit like that isn't great, but it's better then letting them continue their waves of destruction. If it weren't for the capital's actions, night raid would not exist so its a consequence of their actions. They can't really expect for there not to be a rebellion against them when all they do is kill themselves? If they're going to die at the hands of the capital anyway, they're going to die fighting. (hopefully succeed though)
Nov 1, 2014 7:51 AM

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Night Raid obviously.
Nov 1, 2014 9:13 AM

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I'd go for Night Raid.
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Nov 1, 2014 9:14 AM
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keragamming said:
-_- This series is so black and white I don't know why this is even a question.


Depends how you interpret it. It has the over-the-top nature.

None of the characters in the Jaegers or Night Raid consider themselves evil. In fact all the Jaegers believe they work for justice (even Esdeath). and all the members of Night Raid believe that the government is sick and corrupt, but they aren't proposing an alternative. It's easier to just criticize what's already there. Who is to say that if the revolution overthrows the government, the new government would be corruption free? (considering the dark-ages theme) I mean just look back at humanity's history concerning medieval times. Didn't matter who was king, there was always plenty of rape/torture/heads on spikes...

Akame ga Kill just has a very blunt and over-the top way of presenting these things and I love it for that. That's how I look at it
Nov 2, 2014 1:21 AM

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Night raid being the obvious answer
Nov 2, 2014 4:22 AM

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Man I wanted to see Bols' face too.

Chelsea killing Bols... Damn feels. I feel so bad for his family...

The siblings flashback...

Ah man Chelsea was a boss there... and I felt bad for Kurome but man, what can you expect from this show?

Dat flashback...

WHY YOU DO THIS DAMN! Her arm... That shot piercing through her body... DAMN IT... ... Killing my Chelsea in such a brutal way... All she wanted was to be praised, to prove her worth. She was the best charactr ver since Sheele and Bulat died. My 2nd most fav until now....
Oh God no, her head... I... I have no words. To think she would have such a brutal death. The despair is real.

With this, all of my fav charas are dead in this. Only Wave is left, but he will die too. Thanks.
Nov 2, 2014 5:05 AM

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I think they both kind of do but in different ways.
Nov 2, 2014 11:17 AM
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Of the groups we've seen so far Night Raid is closer to representing justice. They see the corruption, they go out and kill it, since proper authorities won't do smack about it. And while they are assassins, each target is firstly investigated into to ensure he is indeed guilty of reported deeds and not an innocent person. Also almost all of Night Raid do it with that single goal in mind - kill those who are above law and turn normal people's lives into hell.

Jaegers are a completely different story - they're not people united by believes, they're people united for their strength. So they're a completely mixed bag when it comes to what they do and why.

Majority of group is simply doing their job, not concerned with justice or anything of that sort - Esdeath, Bols, Kurome.

Some of the members do care deeply about empire and it's citizens - Wave, Run, Seryu (though her views are twised, but she acts on what she believes to be just).

And there's Stylish who's just into getting materials for his experiments.

At this moment in story Night Raid is clearly the group that is closer to representing justice - not because their way or views are better - but because their way actually gets done. Jaegers due to their position, didn't even scratch the corruption that is right in front of their noses. In the future that might take a turn, but at the moment only one dog is taking a bite out the crime, and that's Night Raid.
Nov 2, 2014 11:40 AM

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Everybody is fighting for his own ''Justice''.
Nov 2, 2014 3:48 PM

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You mean the ones protecting a corrupt Government (Who happened to be lead by an Ice Nazi BTW) Vs The Ones who are fighting to overthrow said Government..........Tough Choice,I Guess

haru45 said:
Personally I feel neither group represents justice. Night Raid is trying to end the corruption in the capital but with killing only breeds more hatred and violence.


Yeah,and the capital seems to have a Penchant for Breeding Rapists,Murders and Psychopaths,so really,the whole hatred breeds hatred thing really wo'nt be making things any worse than thy were
Nov 2, 2014 4:11 PM

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Personally, I don't feel like any of them represent justice, because they're actually just following their emotions.
I think if Tatsumi didn't get along with Akame and the others, he would have joined Jeagers.
Anyway, every person has a different point of view about justice, but personally I'd pick Night Raid's side, because they're at least getting rid of society's trash.
What kind of justice do the Jeagers do anyway? they only protect their higher ups while they kill innocent peoples.
Nov 2, 2014 8:12 PM
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Both do, in their own sense, hence being teams in the first place. They both see justice but in their own way. The Jaegars see it the way the government does and fight to enforce just that. Night Raid goes against the government and Jaegars because they see their ideals and they way they enforce them as corrupt and want to put a stop to it.
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I think Seryu's mindset best represents justice. She's got the best moral ethics and judgement of any character. Bless her


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Nov 3, 2014 12:19 PM

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Well, justice is subjective.
I find the Jaegars more likable & relatable tho, as they are not using the bullshit 'for the greater good' excuse.
That one always makes me cringe.
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Nov 3, 2014 12:41 PM

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"Justice is whoever wins the war" Donquixote Doflamingo.
JK, Its pretty obvious that the author portraits NR as just and the rest of the world is just pure evil with no remorse except maybe a few lesser devils.
But I simply cant see NR and friends become the new good ruler as they will probably become corrupted after time too. They will take what they want because they think they deserved it and the circle begins anew.
By the way does anyone else think its stupid that the capital is ruled by some 12 years old and greedy fatass who practically has neo signs with " Im a big asshole" on his head ?
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LastIllusion said:
"Justice is whoever wins the war" Donquixote Doflamingo.
JK, Its pretty obvious that the author portraits NR as just and the rest of the world is just pure evil with no remorse except maybe a few lesser devils.
But I simply cant see NR and friends become the new good ruler as they will probably become corrupted after time too. They will take what they want because they think they deserved it and the circle begins anew.
By the way does anyone else think its stupid that the capital is ruled by some 12 years old and greedy fatass who practically has neo signs with " Im a big asshole" on his head ?


Julio-Claudian Dynasty says hi... and other history events have seen similar screwed up rulers thanks to handing down power through familial ties.

I hope they go for a French Revolution ending... I would be very happy... The Revolution Army turns on Night Raid or something. Or the cycle of violence thing would be nice
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In a sense, Night Raid, but in all honesty, neither of them are
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D3pthCharge said:

Pretty much... which is quite unfortunate, quite the cartoonish evil villain that is given no motivation besides power and control.


Actually the Prime Minister might have been the most realistic character in the series. I mean sure his motivation is nothing more than greed but how is that different than most politicians in this world? dictators or dirty politicians often use what we perceive as "evil" ways to maintain their power be it torture, assassination, bribery, ass-kissing, or whatever. They don't do it simply because they're inherently evil, they do it 'cos it's what's best for their interest.

Cartoon-ish evil would be Seiryuu because no one is that deluded, usually you get this kind of people as (true) villains instead of the one working for "justice". Well as far as justice goes you really wouldn't know for sure. Even NR members admitted that what they're doing is still murder and thus can't be called fighting for justice. For all we know, the leaders of the Revolution Army might have been corrupt themselves and I'm sure politics will come to the fore at the end of the series. The question of who should lead the country will arise and I doubt they'd let the young King live seeing how he has been tainted by the minister's ideals for so long.
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you guys have a shit taste... Both of them are not represent the justice..
it's only Seryuu.. before Jaegers ..
Seryuu is Justice
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Seryuu is Justice

Well, Obviously!
But since Seryuu is a member of Jaegars, does that mean Jaegars = justice?
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Nov 4, 2014 8:45 AM

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If you're defending the bad guys,that makes you bad too,they have absolutely nothing to do with the crimes the empire is commiting,even though they know about them.Therefore defending them from assassins makes them bad.

But that doesnt make them evil as they refrain from those acts themselves,
but theyre still the villain here.
Nov 5, 2014 10:35 AM

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Difficult question. Every person in both groups have their own thoughts about justice. That's my conclussion.
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night raid
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none of them are fighting for justice
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Nov 8, 2014 8:34 PM

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Are you fucking serious

There is no moral ambiguity in this series

Jaegers are all either evil as fuck or unaware of just how bad it is

The only remotely complex character from a moral standpoint is Bols

Otherwise there is no argument to be had here
Nov 9, 2014 12:26 AM

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Lindle said:
Are you fucking serious

There is no moral ambiguity in this series

Jaegers are all either evil as fuck or unaware of just how bad it is

The only remotely complex character from a moral standpoint is Bols

Otherwise there is no argument to be had here


No,they aren't. The Jaegars are mostly grey except for Dr Stylish.
ZapredonNov 9, 2014 9:19 AM
But it's important to remember that a movie review is subjective;it only gives you one person's opinion.

http://www.classzone.com/books/lnetwork_gr08/page_build.cfm?content=analyz_media&ch=30

It doesn't matter if you like LoGH,Monster etc.If you are a jobless or college/school dropout living in your mom basement, you are still an unintelligent loser. Taste in anime does not make you a better person.If elitist don't exist, casual pleb and shit taste also don't exist.
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Lindle said:
Are you fucking serious

There is no moral ambiguity in this series

Jaegers are all either evil as fuck or unaware of just how bad it is

The only remotely complex character from a moral standpoint is Bols

Otherwise there is no argument to be had here


I would agree on this since if you do think about, most of the Jaegars are just doing this for selfish "evil" things while Bols actually had a conscience. Esdeath likes survival of the fittest which in this sense is evil. Seryuu is nuts and can't be helped. Kurome is a little bit of a mixed bag and probably needs a few more episodes in order to truly decide. Stylish is just the mad scientist. Then Ran, well Ran is...we still know nothing. The only one we know isn't inheriantly evil is probably Wave because he hasn't been forced to take the more morally ambiguous missions as the others have.

Night Raid is considered to be the good guys. They are all written in a good light with sad back stories. We can rationalize a few of the Jaegars with how developed they are and that they are not just there for the sake of just being the antagonist to Night Raid, but the bottom line is that we are meant to see Night Raid as just even from the first episode. It's depressing since you want to see more of a grey line at times, but every action we've seen from them is construed as just. The bad guys kill innocents while the good guys kill bad guys there they must be just is this thing in a nutshell.
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Everybody is fighting for his own ''Justice''.

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Nov 9, 2014 9:27 AM

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Except for Dr Stylish,most of the Jaegars are grey. They are not purely evil.
ZapredonNov 9, 2014 9:31 AM
But it's important to remember that a movie review is subjective;it only gives you one person's opinion.

http://www.classzone.com/books/lnetwork_gr08/page_build.cfm?content=analyz_media&ch=30

It doesn't matter if you like LoGH,Monster etc.If you are a jobless or college/school dropout living in your mom basement, you are still an unintelligent loser. Taste in anime does not make you a better person.If elitist don't exist, casual pleb and shit taste also don't exist.
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What kind of stupid question is this?
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It's not even a question. Just read the anime's sypnosis.
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It's not even a question. Just read the anime's sypnosis.

This
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When it comes to some of the Jaegers I'd say they are not exactly evil. Someone like Wave is just doing what he thinks is right out there. People can become blind to how had the capital is. Someone like Seryu had the best of intentions but is so twisted up that she can't tell how bad she's become.

Now Esdeath who is leading is another story. She fully comprehends how bad her actions are and the results. She just doesn't care. She is doing all that for her survival of the fittest thinking and that she wants constant conflict so she can keep on fighting.

On the other hand Night Raid is definitely the side in the right. They comprehend how bad the capital is right now. They know how rotten parts of it have become. In terms of pure actions both sides are trying to make things better, but Night Raid has the advantage of actually being on the side that wants things to become better than the Jaegars who are fighting on the side that is going to keep making things worse.
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seriously you have to ask? its night raid. their methods are not very clean and involves lots of death however more death would occur if they did nothing. at the end of the day the corruption is at the point that any form of peaceful change would be meet with violence behind closed doors by the oppressive government. the method of killing off the corrupt would leave a power void but it would be quickly filled and order would be restored.
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Zapredon said:
Lindle said:
Are you fucking serious

There is no moral ambiguity in this series

Jaegers are all either evil as fuck or unaware of just how bad it is

The only remotely complex character from a moral standpoint is Bols

Otherwise there is no argument to be had here


No,they aren't. The Jaegars are mostly grey except for Dr Stylish.

How the hell are they "grey"? All of the Jaegers either don't know, or don't care that they're working for a pure evil dictator. They are either evil, insane, or oblivious.

Again, Bols is an exception.
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Lindle said:
Zapredon said:


No,they aren't. The Jaegars are mostly grey except for Dr Stylish.

How the hell are they "grey"? All of the Jaegers either don't know, or don't care that they're working for a pure evil dictator. They are either evil, insane, or oblivious.

Again, Bols is an exception.


Implying that working for evil dictator means you are pure black which is obviously not the case. Most of them still work for evil dictator because it's their duty or they don't know which still doesn't mean they are pure black. I think it was mention at some point that Wave also aware of the darkness of the capital but he still work for them.
ZapredonNov 10, 2014 2:10 AM
But it's important to remember that a movie review is subjective;it only gives you one person's opinion.

http://www.classzone.com/books/lnetwork_gr08/page_build.cfm?content=analyz_media&ch=30

It doesn't matter if you like LoGH,Monster etc.If you are a jobless or college/school dropout living in your mom basement, you are still an unintelligent loser. Taste in anime does not make you a better person.If elitist don't exist, casual pleb and shit taste also don't exist.
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