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Jul 15, 2014 5:41 PM

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If they don't consider Alluka as family, how come she has all those toys in her room?
Jul 15, 2014 5:42 PM

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Aluka's too damned complicated. I'd have to find some other way to save Gon.
By the way, how many vaults were opened before they finally got to Aluka's room?!
A family of assassins afraid of one of their own. Wow!!

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Jul 15, 2014 5:44 PM

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That creepy face O_O

On the wish I could ask her I would just say "Alluka, can you just die?". Problem solved xD
Jul 15, 2014 5:48 PM
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Confucius said:
If they don't consider Alluka as family, how come she has all those toys in her room?


Maybe because they want to keep her fixated on something,to keep her calm...they most probably do not want to know what she would be capable of if she was to ran amok.
Jul 15, 2014 6:07 PM

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Hannah_Ana said:
Aluka's too damned complicated. I'd have to find some other way to save Gon.


This.
Alluka is interesting. That power it very intriguing and I wonder how she/he obtained it. Or better yet why are there such rules/restrictions/limitations on her/his power. I am compelled to know more about this.
and KYAAAAAA!!! >.< KILLUA as a young boy was so damn cute!!!~
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Jul 15, 2014 6:13 PM
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Alluka playing with a Sailor Moon and Tuxedo Mask Dolls made my day other than that wow they adapted this really well as expected
Jul 15, 2014 6:36 PM

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Josl said:
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It was hintet at from the start of the series.


The brother. Not the wish full willing deus ex device

This all because Killua had forgotten his little sis, but it was very well planned and placed. And it was not miraculously introduced, just there was no need to appears before.

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A bit curious why Alluka never makes a request with the family. Probably to keep them from harm's way.


But Milluki gained a wish with her, right? He should have done her three requests too. I think this only doesn't apply to parents.



Jul 15, 2014 6:37 PM
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Hell, looking at this arc feels like CA was just a filler
Jul 15, 2014 6:47 PM

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EuTenhoBomGosto said:
Hell, looking at this arc feels like CA was just a filler


It was a filler arc, didn't you know that?
Jul 15, 2014 6:48 PM

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EuTenhoBomGosto said:
Hell, looking at this arc feels like CA was just a filler


You realize everything that has happened so far in this arc is a result of the events of the CA arc right?
Jul 15, 2014 6:55 PM
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SuperRed said:
EuTenhoBomGosto said:
Hell, looking at this arc feels like CA was just a filler


You realize everything that has happened so far in this arc is a result of the events of the CA arc right?

yep, I just said it feels, returning to main world of the story, old characters and shit, after so much time
Jul 15, 2014 6:57 PM
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Eventhough I read the manga, Alluka's animated "make your wish" face is still friggin creepy. And now I wonder how grown up Alluka will sounds like. Will it still as cute as when he was young or will it be kinda boyish... or maybe just like normal girls'...

Illumi looks good in casual clothes. What makes him change his fashion? Hisoka's influence? Ahaha.
Jul 15, 2014 7:02 PM

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JD2411 said:
a character that can cure gon is miraculously introduced

talk about plot convenience and asspulls


Do you mean that anything that cures the MC is an asspull? I am sure you'd call asspull on anything.
Jul 15, 2014 7:02 PM

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shit what a nightmare-ish power(and overly complicate)

i feel sorry for all those Servants there job was pretty much babysitting satan's child while at any moment they could be killed ;-;
Jul 15, 2014 7:23 PM

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So basically, the only way to really abuse Alluka's wish-granting ability is to have people who are basically willing to sacrifice themselves?

If that maid had been like "sure, here's my liver, here's my intestine, here's my spine, please heal me," then 67+ people wouldn't have died. I wonder what size of a wish healing fatal wounds would be, though.
Jul 15, 2014 7:24 PM

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Wow, Alluka 's power is lethal and very well thought out, I can't wait to hear more about it. I knew she had some kind of wish granting ability but I wasn't sure how Togashi was going to go about it,but he did it perfectly in my opinion otherwise it would have been too easy if she just needed any three requests fulfilled to grant a wish, I'm glad there are dire consequences in a way. Killua as a kid is kawai <3 and Illumi actually looked good with his normal clothes and hair. It was so creepy when I saw Alluka casually watch that butler burst into pieces, I don't really understand this thing about gon making a vow and taking the limits or restrictions or something off of him, will it be clearly explained later on? But OMG Alluka asking for the liver and brain etc was beyond creepy. And to think I started watching this series thinking it would be all light hearted and adventurous. Now I just need to wait eagerly for the next episode. Noooo!
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Jul 15, 2014 7:33 PM

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Wow this arc is already turning out really interesting. I wonder what reprecussions the next person will get after Killua's wish. Alluka seems like a great addition to the show :D


Jul 15, 2014 7:35 PM

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OMFG!
I'd shit my pants if I saw her

Can you run away from the request?
I'm not gambling with my life regardless of the possible reward
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Jul 15, 2014 7:41 PM

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CNagy said:
So basically, the only way to really abuse Alluka's wish-granting ability is to have people who are basically willing to sacrifice themselves?

If that maid had been like "sure, here's my liver, here's my intestine, here's my spine, please heal me," then 67+ people wouldn't have died. I wonder what size of a wish healing fatal wounds would be, though.


yeah she could of, but its a gamble
you know how fast you would have to answer those request before you pass out or die.

I'd be like "WHAT ELSE YOU WANT, HURRY...ANSWER!" lol
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Jul 15, 2014 8:15 PM

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Btw, was it just the lighting or something or was Silva's hair blonde this episode? I always thought he had silver hair like Killua and Zeno?
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Jul 15, 2014 8:15 PM

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everyone is talking about the monster alluka
and you forgot about the monster pariston?.

5/5
hands down mori always a beast .
Jul 15, 2014 8:16 PM
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Alluka's power is crazy, I felt really bad for the butlers.

Good episode overall.

Oh and yeah it was confusing to know if Alluka was a guy or girl, but it's a guy, I guess Killua feels the way Alluka is and looks, he could be trans.
Jul 15, 2014 9:08 PM

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It's the middle of the night and the second half is like a f* ing horror movie :O dafuq

That face :O I didn't find it that creepy in the manga :(
Jul 15, 2014 9:20 PM

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insan3Spectre said:
Btw, was it just the lighting or something or was Silva's hair blonde this episode? I always thought he had silver hair like Killua and Zeno?


In Madhouse version, it was always blonde.
But his hair is silver. It seems MH doesn't get the purpose of the name "Silva"
Jul 15, 2014 9:20 PM

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Hahaha. I thought Pariston would be the problem in this episode. .-.;

Alluka just exudes evil. "Give me your liver." What the craaaaaap? e.e

I'm not surprised that the other Zoldycks are fearful of him. I also get why Illumi wants him dead now. However, I hope this is addressed at some point: Why couldn't someone wish away his ability? I understand that wish granting is a big deal, but the requirements are too freaking dangerous.

...Man, that was creepy. Killua is being quite brave in doing this. I get the feeling that saving Gon will lead to some pretty huge consequential requests afterwards, if Killua does that.
Jul 15, 2014 9:27 PM

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However, I hope this is addressed at some point: Why couldn't someone wish away his ability?


They didn't know what would happen if they tried, along with the fact they don't even know all the rules to how it works. Even if it could work, there would be the problem of
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Jul 15, 2014 9:32 PM

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This is why I hate kids.
Jul 15, 2014 9:32 PM

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I'd rather not click the spoiler. I'm an anime-only viewer.

I'll just wait to have it explained. If they don't know all of the rules, though, we haven't been shown that yet.


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This is why I hate kids.

...I don't think most kids are this bad. xD
Jul 15, 2014 10:05 PM

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YES!YES!YES!
FINNALY ALLUKA!!! I've been waiting for this episode for soooo long!
The best anime episode ever! And shut up blind people who think she is a boy! It's the cutest anime girl ever!
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Jul 15, 2014 10:07 PM

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i dont know why everyone assumes alluka is a boy just because a couple of the zoldycs refer to him as a boy. same deal for kalluto as well. ive got a different theory. the zoldys whether boy or girl are raised as boys. maybe it has something to do with familys job idk, but i got a couple reasons why i think alluka and kalluto are girls. kalluto imo has the most chance of actually being a boy.
1.) its never been confirmed once that either are boys other than illumi and milluki saying they are their brothers. if you can prove otherwise go on ahead. ive read the manga like 6 times so i doubt you will.
2.)and this imo is the most telling clue. buts its a very minor spoiler so read with caution
and yes i guess you could interpret that as killua respecting alluka but previous to killuas statement none of the butlers said anything about her being a boy. imo thats togashis way of letting you know this is a girl.
3.)NO ONE outside the family ever ever ever refers to kalluto or alluka as a boy. hmmmm......

Im not saying im right but everyone who says for a fact that alluka is a boy is full of it. theres no concrete evidence proving it either way. so im gonna go ahead and refer to them as girls until someone can prove me wrong :D


You're just totally making up your own headcanon ("girls are raised as boys") to support your view, and that's just stretching it. Such "setting" was never mentioned in the manga, it's always stated as "Zoldyck has Five Sons." I take that as it is.

First let's get with the 'official' statement (ala Publisher, Jump, Madhouse) out of the way:

In the official Data book, it's same as the manga: Zoldyck has five Sons.

Alluka is describe as the 4th brother who has yet to appear.
Kalluto is describe as "A boy (shounen) who wears Kimono"
http://tinypic.com/view.php?pic=1buhh&s=5

And in the last month JUMP, Alluka is described "The fourth son in the family". The word is 'male' (男), and when you combine with four it refers to (fourth son), Son. Male. there's no ambiguity whatsoever.
http://www.crunchyroll.com/anime-news/2014/06/18/latest-preview-of-next-hunter-x-hunter-anime-arc-designs

Then to your bullet points:

1) The butlers called Alluka as Bo-chan "坊ちゃん" , which literally translated as "Young Master", and it's used specifically for male children.
http://www.wordsense.eu/坊っちゃん/
Again there's no gender neutral nor ambiguity in this word, it's only used for male .

Then later on:


2) Your so-called telling clue is more a telling clue on the reverse:


3) The Phantom Trope never refer to Kalluto as a girl either (just 'a strange child'). Either of them haven't met too much outside people.

To sum it up (with canon only):

The databook, Jump, anime setting called both Alluka and Kalluto male. No ambiguity word use. Clear stated as 'male', 'son." So now it's your own made-up headcanon against Official statement.

Zoldyck family: Mom, Illumi, Milluki callled Alluka (and Kalluto) as 'he', 'younger brother'.

Killua has to use
touche. you definitely did more research then i would of. but even if my theory was complete bs which it probably is ill just respect the fact that alluka prefers to be seen as a girl. kalluto as well. i dont think calling them female or girls in that respect is a bad thing right? but i will say i took killua telling gotoh that he couldnt address her needs as woman meant something about lady parts lol not in a sexual way but you know maybe she needs to take a bath or change clothes idk it made sense when i said it lol but im not too proud to admit when im wrong. so kudos for taking the time to prove me wrong or atleast your theory makes more sense.
Jul 15, 2014 10:09 PM

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YES!YES!YES!
FINNALY ALLUKA!!! I've been waiting for this episode for soooo long!
The best anime episode ever! And shut up blind people who think she is a boy! It's the cutest anime girl ever!
haha usually youre so negative
Jul 15, 2014 10:40 PM

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TripleSRank said:
Hahaha. I thought Pariston would be the problem in this episode. .-.;

Alluka just exudes evil. "Give me your liver." What the craaaaaap? e.e

I'm not surprised that the other Zoldycks are fearful of him. I also get why Illumi wants him dead now. However, I hope this is addressed at some point: Why couldn't someone wish away his ability? I understand that wish granting is a big deal, but the requirements are too freaking dangerous.

...Man, that was creepy. Killua is being quite brave in doing this. I get the feeling that saving Gon will lead to some pretty huge consequential requests afterwards, if Killua does that.


Answer is another question: wh don't they just kill her?

They want to exploit that power.
Jul 15, 2014 10:42 PM

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Another amazing Hunter X Hunter episode! Loved this one a lot, it was a very enjoyable episode. Alluka's power is scary! Loved seeing Killua's dad this episode. Can't wait for next weeks episode!


Jul 15, 2014 10:46 PM

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Josl said:
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It was hintet at from the start of the series.


The brother. Not the wish full willing deus ex device

But hiding him like that indicates how dangerous he is.
EuTenhoBomGosto said:
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Because failing to follow the next three requests would probably have ended man kind?
Killing the most powerful being sounds kinda like a big wish, don't ya think?

Manga spoilers




LOVE the forwshadowings in this episode.


Looks like Alluka is the most powerful being in HxH universe, not the King


Nope. Alluka is like Neon, Zepile and Komugi. She's a "genius" and can't use nen conciously.
Jul 15, 2014 11:07 PM

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Can't believe it the episode ended so quickly. Finally, now that the ant arc has ended, things are getting back to really interesting. The next episode preview.. I'd expect nothing less from HxH.
Jul 16, 2014 12:15 AM

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We always learn a character power after the character had a propper introduction. We can't expect from Togashi to give us a list with hatsu's before the characters are even relevant to the story. He also had other options to ''heal'' Gon, he could have done that with a top tier nen curse remover but he chose for this. So how is this deus ex machina?

As for the episode, it was pretty good. Recent manga chapters made me pay alot of attention to the zodiac interaction.
So that part stood out for me the most.

There was a discussion going on last episode about why people think Ging is a bad father but nobody seems to mind the Zoldycks. This episode showed why I don't think that Silva is such a horrible father. Zoldycks are insane no doubt but atleast Silva takes care of his kids. He looked after them unlike Ging. Perhaps im bias but thats just how I feel.
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Jul 16, 2014 12:35 AM

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"Give me ur liver" .. "then, Kasuga, give me ur duodenum" ... "then, Kasuga, give me ur spine" "give me your brain"

Ohh man, that was creepy as ever. I was so fucking scared yet smiling xD this sh*t is the best.
Jul 16, 2014 12:42 AM

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I wonder what would happen if Kasuma granted 1 or 2 wishes (of course that's impossible). Would Alluka still kill Kasuma ?
Jul 16, 2014 12:46 AM

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Satan-sama said:
I wonder what would happen if Kasuma granted 1 or 2 wishes (of course that's impossible). Would Alluka still kill Kasuma ?


She will keep asking requests, either one more is granted and she gets a wish or 4 denied and she dies. I think.
Jul 16, 2014 1:00 AM

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Holy shit, Alluka is creepy as fuck.
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Jul 16, 2014 1:04 AM

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Little Killua is so cute.
Alluka has such a scary nen ability.
Granting wishes has its price.
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Jul 16, 2014 1:34 AM

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Lol
Jul 16, 2014 4:38 AM

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This is too close to the manga, why isn't it's final already announced?
Jul 16, 2014 5:11 AM

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I wonder what will happen if the babysitter kill her before she says the fourth request. because it seems Alluka is easy to kill.
Jul 16, 2014 7:06 AM

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Alluka is awesome, just when I thought the Zoldyck family couldn't get any better.

Ugh, I hope Ging doesn't disappear from this arc just like that
Jul 16, 2014 8:03 AM
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EuTenhoBomGosto said:
TonyTonyStark said:


Because failing to follow the next three requests would probably have ended man kind?
Killing the most powerful being sounds kinda like a big wish, don't ya think?

Manga spoilers




LOVE the forwshadowings in this episode.


Looks like Alluka is the most powerful being in HxH universe, not the King
Except that she can die easily.

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This is too close to the manga, why isn't it's final already announced?
Endings of anime aren't usually announced until the last episodes. The arc still has around 10 left.
Jul 16, 2014 8:04 AM

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Hahaha. I thought Pariston would be the problem in this episode. .-.;

Alluka just exudes evil. "Give me your liver." What the craaaaaap? e.e

I'm not surprised that the other Zoldycks are fearful of him. I also get why Illumi wants him dead now. However, I hope this is addressed at some point: Why couldn't someone wish away his ability? I understand that wish granting is a big deal, but the requirements are too freaking dangerous.

...Man, that was creepy. Killua is being quite brave in doing this. I get the feeling that saving Gon will lead to some pretty huge consequential requests afterwards, if Killua does that.


Answer is another question: wh don't they just kill her?

They want to exploit that power.

Good point. I guess I'm talking more about Killua, but I suppose it's understandable for him to not have before now. I wouldn't mind seeing Kil "save" Alluka like that later, though.
Jul 16, 2014 8:07 AM

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Holy shit, the way Alluka literally crushed that servant's face...
Jul 16, 2014 8:30 AM

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Alluka is extremely dangerous but also an interesting character. Now I know why Illumi wants her dead. The head crushing scene was pretty horrific to see. It was nice to see young Killua again.
Jul 16, 2014 9:10 AM

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I wonder what will happen if the babysitter kill her before she says the fourth request. because it seems Alluka is easy to kill.


Well. she kills her/him, she gets killed by the Zoldycks though I don't think Alluka is easy to be killed. He/she can grant any wish whatever it was. so I think there's kinda rule in his/her nen ability to prevent something like that from happening.

Sorry for using "him/her" to refer to Alluka, but it's more understandable than referring to him/her by "them".
Pronouns lesson. lol
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