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Dec 8, 2013 8:27 PM

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Fillers is the reason I watch anime with less than 50 eps.
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Dec 8, 2013 8:41 PM

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Both recaps and fillers negatively affect my scores. If I feel like my time is being wasted it should only be expected that it would impact the score.
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Dec 8, 2013 10:17 PM

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Recaps and bad filler (read as boring or badly placed so that interrupts a canon arc) definitely do bring it down. Good filler on the other hand is good and does not adversely effect the rating.
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Dec 8, 2013 10:33 PM

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Not really. I usually skip them. But if they are airing then ye...
Dec 8, 2013 10:41 PM

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If they're shit or plentiful or random or interfering with characterization then they sure as hell will affect my score negatively. If they're enjoyable and well done though I don't mind them so much, sometimes it can even be a nice change of pace.
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pfft, lol hell no. Except if its a filler ending and not filler episodes. But it all depends really.
Dec 9, 2013 4:05 AM

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IntroverTurtle said:
Tyestor said:
Of course. The 89 episodes of filler in Naruto are such a plus to the series. 10/10 anime, would not think to ever downrate it.
Liar, you gave it a 4 and didn't even get to any filler.


That's because it's genuinely bad before I got to any filler. Once I get to filler, I'll rate it lower.
Dec 9, 2013 4:08 AM

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Obviously it affects my rating, it's a part of the show. But it can be good, they aren't all bound to be terrible. Problem is most of them are bad.
Dec 9, 2013 4:10 AM
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Tyestor said:
IntroverTurtle said:
Tyestor said:
Of course. The 89 episodes of filler in Naruto are such a plus to the series. 10/10 anime, would not think to ever downrate it.
Liar, you gave it a 4 and didn't even get to any filler.


That's because it's genuinely bad before I got to any filler. Once I get to filler, I'll rate it lower.


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Dec 9, 2013 4:15 AM
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Not much but they tend to get annoying though. I guess you can never avoid them. Mainstream anime fillers are the most annoying since you'll be skipping them for weeks and weeks when you hate fillers. That takes you back from watching months of anime.


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Dec 9, 2013 4:17 AM
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Depends, if it affects my enjoyment of the series since most fillers are never too good
And they are typically faster paced as they are trying to fit a whole story into a said arc.
Single filler episodes in say a 1 cour show is fine with me, i don't mind it
Dec 9, 2013 8:19 AM

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Tyestor said:
IntroverTurtle said:
Tyestor said:
Of course. The 89 episodes of filler in Naruto are such a plus to the series. 10/10 anime, would not think to ever downrate it.
Liar, you gave it a 4 and didn't even get to any filler.


That's because it's genuinely bad before I got to any filler. Once I get to filler, I'll rate it lower.
Then don't comment about the filler that you've never seen. And it's taken you almost 4 years to reach episode 12, going at the same pace it would take you 28 more years to reach the first filler episode at episode 97 and even that one's not in the famous stretch.
Dec 9, 2013 8:24 AM

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Depends. Detective Conan, for example, has the most tedious filler I have ever seen in my life, so that did affect my rating for the show. However, some anime have very good filler. I remember the Prince of Tennis anime had filler that almost fit the series exactly, so it mainly just depends about the overall quality, as in whether it is just there to take up space, or is actually entertaining.
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Dec 9, 2013 8:31 AM

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I hate how people consider filler to bad automatically, filler when done right can be really damn great especially if the series is a comedy

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Jizzy as you would call yourself because youre a dick The most butthurt award goes to you And clearly you havent watched that many shows thats why you cant determine if a show is unique or not Or maybe you're just a child who likes common stuffs where hero saves the day and guys gets all the girls. Sad taste you have there kid you came up to me in the first place making you look more like a kid who got slapped without me even knowing it and start crying about it to me

Dec 9, 2013 11:44 AM

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Yes, which is why I like reading the manga as well
Dec 9, 2013 11:48 AM

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Usually not, but if they're literally 80% of the anime and absolutely pointless, I lower the score by 1 point, happened once.
Dec 9, 2013 12:04 PM

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I ignore anime fillers when I score stuff.
Apart from my shit taste that is also the reason why I gave Bleach a 7.
Dec 9, 2013 2:33 PM

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I don't skip filler, but they will bring the score down. Hell in some cases I've dropped a series due to filler. Ex: Inuyasha, Bleach, and Naruto. They're just a waste of my time.
Dec 9, 2013 2:38 PM

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Good filler? Doesn't do much other than make me more happier. Bad filler? I skip it, therefore I lower my overall rating because I couldn't manage to finish everything.
Dec 9, 2013 2:39 PM

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For me, it doesn't affect the rating much. Most of the time, I'm unaware that they're actually fillers and not part of the actual plot till I start reading the manga. In any anime, there are arcs I like and arcs I dislike, and it doesn't really depend on whether they're fillers or not.
Dec 9, 2013 5:08 PM
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JizzyHitler said:
I hate how people consider filler to bad automatically, filler when done right can be really damn great especially if the series is a comedy

I can appreciate that!
Dec 9, 2013 5:23 PM
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I subconsciously tend to take into account every part of a story, even fillers. Sometimes I look at a score and ask myself why I rated it that. Then I think back and after briefly reliving every moment of it which comes to mind, I find my ratings much more justified.
Dec 9, 2013 5:30 PM

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Maybe the only filler that really got me was the baseball episode in Samurai Champloo because it was nearing the end and I thought some great stuff was gonna happen. But no. At least it was zombie baseball.

Anyway, I usually don't mind and a lot of times absolutely serve a purpose especially after several serious or taxing episodes to give the viewer a break.
Dec 9, 2013 5:31 PM

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Oh yeah I forgot that Yu-Gi-Oh series (except Zexal) and Detective Conan filler usualy good.
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Dec 9, 2013 5:38 PM

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Obviously. They are part of the series, no matter if they actually affect the rest of the series or not, but you should take them into account since they are there.

However, it's not because it's a filler it will certainly and unarguably be a bad episode, and mainly for such a reason you ought to see them. Unless tons of fans have seen them already and the opinions shared are kinda unanimous, so if you're not willing to waste time on them you're free to skip those not loved episodes. I prefer building up my opinions myself, so i'd watchem though
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AstronomyDomine said:
Obviously. They are part of the series, no matter if they actually affect the rest of the series or not, but you should take them into account since they are there.

However, it's not because it's a filler it will certainly and unarguably be a bad episode, and mainly for such a reason you ought to see them. Unless tons of fans have seen them already and the opinions shared are kinda unanimous, so if you're not willing to waste time on them you're free to skip those not beloved episodes. I prefer building up my opinions myself, so i'd watchem though


But i don't see fillers as apart of the adaptation (Which seems that most ppl here forgetting this, No Objection), It wasn't in the original story, I see it as i see farmer's milk cows, They make it for the money( or to escape the cancellation of a series).

Yes, not all fillers are bad but even if they are good i don't take them into account for rating the whole series, They are like a momentary enjoyment, For example (I make this a lot):

One Piece fillers are well balanced and funny and it always comes between two arcs (So they don't ruin the original adaptation).
Shippuuden fillers are semi-complete shit taht comes in the middle of the most important events (Reason why ppl drop it), Pathetic and not funny.

I most of the time skip fillers, But if get a glimpse of the filler-episode story and i like it i'll just watch it for entertainment.
Dec 9, 2013 6:12 PM

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now to me filler and recap are different, i don't mind filler as you either get some sort of back story for the characters or something funny and out of the norm from the show usually placing characters in weird/ funny scenarios/settings.... recaps however are boring and not very necessary i am watching hxh 2011 atm and its a great show but the recaps every 13 episodes are annoying as hell IMO maybe one half way through or their around but 13 is just too short of time you don't have time forget and then appreciate the recap when it comes
Dec 9, 2013 6:14 PM

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Sometimes, usually depends on how bad the fillers are/how many it has.
Dec 9, 2013 6:21 PM

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BeyondNero said:
AstronomyDomine said:
Obviously. They are part of the series, no matter if they actually affect the rest of the series or not, but you should take them into account since they are there.

However, it's not because it's a filler it will certainly and unarguably be a bad episode, and mainly for such a reason you ought to see them. Unless tons of fans have seen them already and the opinions shared are kinda unanimous, so if you're not willing to waste time on them you're free to skip those not beloved episodes. I prefer building up my opinions myself, so i'd watchem though


But i don't see fillers as apart of the adaptation (Which seems that most ppl here forgetting this, No Objection), It wasn't in the original story, I see it as i see farmer's milk cows, They make it for the money( or to escape the cancellation of a series).

Yes, not all fillers are bad but even if they are good i don't take them into account for rating the whole series, They are like a momentary enjoyment, For example (I make this a lot):

One Piece fillers are well balanced and funny and it always comes between two arcs (So they don't ruin the original adaptation).
Shippuuden fillers are semi-complete shit taht comes in the middle of the most important events (Reason why ppl drop it), Pathetic and not funny.

I most of the time skip fillers, But if get a glimpse of the filler-episode story and i like it i'll just watch it for entertainment.


I see and understand your point. If you're rating the original and principal story on its own, perhaps disregarding any possible filler is the most correct path to be chosen. On the other hand, i think the adaptation must be evaluated alone, and fillers are undoubtedly part of it. I admit it's hard to do so, but that's what i try to do.

Your example concerning One Piece was perfect. That's a great collection of fillers done right, what only adds to the final score for that series. While too many bad fillers just make me unable not to decrease my overall rating. Even if have read the original source and i'm aware those are not there.

That's the main reason why i can't enjoy Dbz, for example. I'm a lover of the manga, but fillers + horrible pacing, turns me into a hater of its animation. If it even makes any sense lol

Anyways, that's my opinion and i totally respect yours. Peace bro!
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AstronomyDomine said:
BeyondNero said:
AstronomyDomine said:
Obviously. They are part of the series, no matter if they actually affect the rest of the series or not, but you should take them into account since they are there.

However, it's not because it's a filler it will certainly and unarguably be a bad episode, and mainly for such a reason you ought to see them. Unless tons of fans have seen them already and the opinions shared are kinda unanimous, so if you're not willing to waste time on them you're free to skip those not beloved episodes. I prefer building up my opinions myself, so i'd watchem though


But i don't see fillers as apart of the adaptation (Which seems that most ppl here forgetting this, No Objection), It wasn't in the original story, I see it as i see farmer's milk cows, They make it for the money( or to escape the cancellation of a series).

Yes, not all fillers are bad but even if they are good i don't take them into account for rating the whole series, They are like a momentary enjoyment, For example (I make this a lot):

One Piece fillers are well balanced and funny and it always comes between two arcs (So they don't ruin the original adaptation).
Shippuuden fillers are semi-complete shit taht comes in the middle of the most important events (Reason why ppl drop it), Pathetic and not funny.

I most of the time skip fillers, But if get a glimpse of the filler-episode story and i like it i'll just watch it for entertainment.


I see and understand your point. If you're rating the original and principal story on its own, perhaps disregarding any possible filler is the most correct path to be chosen. On the other hand, i think the adaptation must be evaluated alone, and fillers are undoubtedly part of it. I admit it's hard to do so, but that's what i try to do.

Your example concerning One Piece was perfect. That's a great collection of fillers done right, what only adds to the final score for that series. While too many bad fillers just make me unable not to decrease my overall rating. Even if i had read the original source and i'm aware those are not there.

That's the main reason why i can't enjoy Dbz, for example. I'm a lover of the manga, but fillers + horrible pacing, turns me into a hater of its animation. If it even makes any sense lol

Anyways, that's my opinion and i totally respect yours. Peace bro!


I Respect that too !
Dec 9, 2013 6:30 PM

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Yes, but only a minimal effect.
For ex. my rating in Naruto
Naruto - 8
Main - 9
Fillers - 5.5

First 135 ep were the main storyline and the remaining 85 were fillers (sigh).
I wanted to skip them but Im a completionist. Those fillers were so repetitive. It feels natural when you are just watching it on TV but when you are watching a lot of ep continuously I was like "okay, how many ep left? T_T".
Dec 9, 2013 6:30 PM

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BeyondNero said:
But i don't see fillers as apart of the adaptation (Which seems that most ppl here forgetting this, No Objection), It wasn't in the original story, I see it as i see farmer's milk cows, They make it for the money( or to escape the cancellation of a series).
But fillers are factually part of the anime. When you buy the DVDs it will come with those episodes, the company who makes the episodes and all the tv guides will list them as numbered episodes, when you update your lsit you count those episodes. An adaptation doesn't exist to solely adapt each page one by one, it seeks to make it better and transfer over from still manga pages to an enjoyable anime experience. If they feel like they have to move something, cut out a scene, change something, etc, they will. An anime is not only an adaptation that should be seen as connected to the manga but it's also it's own anime and can be different from the manga.
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IntroverTurtle said:
BeyondNero said:
But i don't see fillers as apart of the adaptation (Which seems that most ppl here forgetting this, No Objection), It wasn't in the original story, I see it as i see farmer's milk cows, They make it for the money( or to escape the cancellation of a series).
But fillers are factually part of the anime. When you buy the DVDs it will come with those episodes, the company who makes the episodes and all the tv guides will list them as numbered episodes, when you update your lsit you count those episodes. An adaptation doesn't exist to solely adapt each page one by one, it seeks to make it better and transfer over from still manga pages to an enjoyable anime experience. If they feel like they have to move something, cut out a scene, change something, etc, they will. An anime is not only an adaptation that should be seen as connected to the manga but it's also it's own anime and can be different from the manga.


Why do we watch Anime? Because of the genre, story, art, etc...

And where did that story, genre, art, etc... came from? The Manga adaptation.

They are part of the anime but not the ORIGINAL SERIES! (Which is why i watch the show), Their like "add-ons ".

Besides most of them (most, NOT all) ruin the show for the ppl and the Manga-ka (the artist) and it's not fair.
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BeyondNero said:
Why do we watch Anime? Because of the genre, story, art, etc...

And where did that story, genre, art, etc... came from? The Manga adaptation.

They are part of the anime but not the ORIGINAL SERIES! (Which is why i watch the show), Their like "add-ons ".

Besides most of them (most, NOT all) ruin the show for the ppl and the Manga-ka (the artist) and it's not fair.
Even if it comes from the manga, that doesn't mean that it can't be changed. And what people most want is enjoyment, that's the reason why the manga was made in the first place.

The original series is a manga, this is an anime, two different things. They are not like addons, they are part of the series. A couple of mangakas that I know of so far actually supported or told the company adapting their manga to go a different way. Oda said in an interview(which I can't find right now) that he likes fillers because they can add things or expand on things that he can't because of deadlines and editors. The whole Usopp and Big Daddy(or whatever his name was) in Loguetown, Oda thought up, he wanted it in the manga but couldn't because he wanted when the 100th chapter to be when they got to the Grandline.

Now you're making me believe you are DrGero's alt account. I'm sure you have enough evidence to prove that most fillers ruin the anime for people and the mangaka? And people online do not count, all those internet users who pirate all their anime and say they're dropping Naruto are but drops in an ocean compared to the people in Japan who pay to watch the show weekly. And here's a newsflash, without fillers there would be no long anime. Anime is partly meant to advertise the manga in itself, filler allows to conserve original material, give animators a break, save money, etc so they can keep airing the anime.
Dec 9, 2013 7:06 PM

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I think so, although filler doesn't necessarily mean boring and stupid shit, some anime has good fillers... like... "coming soon"
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The endless eight made me drop a point or two in the series if that answers your question.
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Dec 10, 2013 10:19 AM

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Depends, if the fillers are many this will result in bad rating but if they are few they can be much relaxing when the tense in the previous episode was high.
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Yes. One Piece is the best example IMO. If Oda didnt put so much attention in the characters we'll only see once --*cough* Brownbeard *cough*-- I would rank the series much higher, but because Oda does, I stick to the 3/5 I give it.
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Yes. One Piece is the best example IMO. If Oda didnt put so much attention in the characters we'll only see once --*cough* Brownbeard *cough*-- I would rank the series much higher, but because Oda does, I stick to the 3/5 I give it.
This is thread is about filler(episodes not adapted from the original material) in an anime not whatever you are talking about.
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Old_Raven said:
Yes. One Piece is the best example IMO. If Oda didnt put so much attention in the characters we'll only see once --*cough* Brownbeard *cough*-- I would rank the series much higher, but because Oda does, I stick to the 3/5 I give it.



And what IntroverTurtle said.


On topic... a filler is part of the anime, right? So it's part of my rating as well.
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