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Mar 14, 2013 6:25 PM
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Why? Because all of the moe garbage Japanese Producers keep milking to the otaku audience. A stupid moe anime with different girls representing every dam skittle color. Completly leave no focus for the what should be the main theme for the show (*cough* K-on *cough*) Make a show that lasts 24 episodes that lacks in quality from every angle to bring an unsatisfying result. With all of that above, the average american now adays are too busy watching shows such as "the walking dead","the king of thrones" ect.
Mar 14, 2013 6:45 PM

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ChocolateRainbow said:
Why? Because all of the moe garbage Japanese Producers keep milking to the otaku audience. A stupid moe anime with different girls representing every dam skittle color. Completly leave no focus for the what should be the main theme for the show (*cough* K-on *cough*) Make a show that lasts 24 episodes that lacks in quality from every angle to bring an unsatisfying result. With all of that above, the average american now adays are too busy watching shows such as "the walking dead","the king of thrones" ect.


I'm gonna say, haters gonna hate.
And it's 'Game of Thrones' for you.
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Mar 14, 2013 6:48 PM

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azzuRe said:
ChocolateRainbow said:
Why? Because all of the moe garbage Japanese Producers keep milking to the otaku audience. A stupid moe anime with different girls representing every dam skittle color. Completly leave no focus for the what should be the main theme for the show (*cough* K-on *cough*) Make a show that lasts 24 episodes that lacks in quality from every angle to bring an unsatisfying result. With all of that above, the average american now adays are too busy watching shows such as "the walking dead","the king of thrones" ect.

And it's 'Game of Thrones' for you.


Ok, I laughed hard.

Mar 14, 2013 6:50 PM

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Mar 14, 2013 6:57 PM
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The truth is, anime has a bad rep because of more which isn't a big deal unless the people who like moe act stupid and tell everyone(basically telling them they are pedophiles) and also anime has a bad rep from the people who take it too seriously and dress and act like characters..

Yes it's sad, but that is a fact and it needs to be accepted.
Mar 14, 2013 8:17 PM

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To this day I still don't understand this whole "moe" thing is, wikipedia was not helpful since it gave various meanings
sexual incest in nisomonogatari - no one bats an eye
romance incest in SAO - everyone loses their minds
Mar 14, 2013 9:50 PM

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Ghostony said:
To this day I still don't understand this whole "moe" thing is, wikipedia was not helpful since it gave various meanings


Moe is an ill-defined otaku term that means, amongst other things, "cute", "huggable", or "endearing". While it's sometimes used to describe a series, it's more about a specific ideal or kind of character, similar to Kawaisa. When used as an interjection, figuratively, it's used to convey that "something blooms inside your heart".
Mar 14, 2013 10:02 PM

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I think you find the answer to this in the fandom. The extremes of a material will become the face of it, and that is what we see here. If there was ever going to be a way to better create a reputation, it would be through a more relaxing tone from many of the hardcore enthusiasts and an ability to spread out anime in general to the public. But it would have to be gradual. Force feeding does nobody any good.
Mar 14, 2013 10:08 PM

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I see no connection between "moe" and the mainstream opinion of anime.

Could it be that people who don't like moe love to talk about the fact that they don't like moe and will spin any opportunity they can into a reason to opine why they don't like moe?

I dunno. Cooooould be.
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Mar 14, 2013 11:50 PM

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Generic Shounen Character 1: PREPARE FOR THE ULTIMATE TECHNIQUE!!!!!!!!!!

Generic Shounen Character 2: OH NO! IT CAN'T BE! THE ULTIMATE TECHNIQUE!

Generic Shounen Unimportant Bystander: THIS IS HIS TRUE FOOORRRRMMMMMM!!!!

...That's about it.
Mar 14, 2013 11:58 PM
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dankickyou said:
Because all anime is SHIT. The sooner you accept this fact the happier you'll be.


says 227 completed anime
Mar 15, 2013 12:00 AM
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Hentai people think japanese pornify everything its kinda true with all the fanservice but there are good anime out there that doesnt have but theres alot that does have it.

check it
Mar 15, 2013 12:09 AM
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The answer in why anything or any one activity is deemed socially obnoxious or unacceptable lies in the fact of the number of constituent individuals who judge on what seems to be the most popularized extremes, or the least accurate representation of the activity itself of a whole.

First, we have the following fundamental reasons:
(a) People believe what they want to believe...
- e.g. reinforcing preconceived notions / reinforcing bias or selective bias for positive evidence
(b) People will be more likely to listen to something that is deviant or not normal (the more sensationalized it is, the more people will flock to discuss it, and when money in journalism equates to popularity of said written material, its not hard to see where the intentions come from)
- e.g. you will hear murders more in the news than children being happy
(c) People will be more likely to discount evidence that is contrary to their preconceived notions
- e.g. you hear 300,000 kids being violent due to video games but not the other 999,999,999 individuals who aren't affected by playing games

Combining (a), (b), (c)...

We concoct as to what is known as the unfortunate effect of stigmatizing said activity,
given that even if we were to scrutinize the reasons for defaming
- Pornography (or its animated equivalency of hentai)
- Violence
etc...

Through the fact that people are destined to be attracted to such things simply by the virtue of being human. People would not be likely to recognize such a fact.

There is nothing inherently bad in cosplaying itself, or enacting characters from some fictional medium.

It seems to be more so that we would like to focus on the negative aspects of something selective or different (a.k.a. anime as opposed to say films, movies, books or what have not that is socially acceptable).

Why would erotic text be okay, but not depictions of females in ways that allude to arousing male attention be okay in the fictional context of anime, otherwise?

In addition to this,

(d) People want to be seemed superior relative to other individuals, by their alignment with accordance to a notion of normality

However, the traits of obsessiveness, compulsiveness seem to be perfectly okay in terms of other things such as work, sports, and various other hobbies. The simple matter of fact is, people want to scapegoat deviancy, and unsightliness by any means possible.

And its origins happen to lie in things that are simply not standard by social conventions.

Now fastforward to 20, 30 or so on years.
This intergenerational difference declines, and said activity is considered to be in its equilibrative state with society. That is, it is something that every person has grown to be exposed to, to be accustomed of, and for such a sizable change in demographics, the ill-conceived notions becomes removed as people have more first-hand evidence of themselves in participating said activity, rather than listening to the media spouting such nonsense.
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Mar 15, 2013 3:37 AM

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TengokuNoKusari said:
Moeshit, ridiculous fanservice, and generic battle shounens. Oh and the west with its 'animation is for kids' stigma.


^ this
Mar 15, 2013 3:43 AM

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People think anime are aimed towards children.That is the main reason anime have such a reputation. Someone who don't watch anime and have prejudices on them won't say anything else than "Anime are for kids".
Mar 15, 2013 5:46 AM

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cuz people are ignorant. thats jst it
Mar 15, 2013 5:59 AM

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Cause most people when hear about anime, they think of hentai or something simillar to Pocemon.
Mar 15, 2013 6:03 AM
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Its usually due to what is mainstream that is airred in the US, that gives Anime a bad reputation in the west.

And for Japan its mainly due to Hikkikomori's NEETs, that are being bashed by the politicians, and the extreme cases reported by the media.
Mar 15, 2013 6:21 AM

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yhunata said:
Ghostony said:
To this day I still don't understand this whole "moe" thing is, wikipedia was not helpful since it gave various meanings


Moe is an ill-defined otaku term that means, amongst other things, "cute", "huggable", or "endearing". While it's sometimes used to describe a series, it's more about a specific ideal or kind of character, similar to Kawaisa. When used as an interjection, figuratively, it's used to convey that "something blooms inside your heart".

OOoh that makes a lot more sense than what wiki told me lol, thank you

and here I thought this guy was moe

never have I been so partially wrong
sexual incest in nisomonogatari - no one bats an eye
romance incest in SAO - everyone loses their minds
Mar 16, 2013 3:45 AM
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It's because those people who think they're bad are fucking idiots
Mar 16, 2013 3:48 AM
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Because of anime like one piece, naruto, and bleach.


So because of an awesome anime that is the adaptation of the greatest work ever ( I don't fucking care if you disagree, you're fucking stupid and shallow and can't see why), an anime that is actually liked by most people who only watch a couple anime and are not anime fans in general, and an anime that people, who again, are not anime fans, can see in the TV and like because it seems mature and has action (when in actuality the story and most characters suck)
Mar 16, 2013 3:48 AM

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Narutards running around in public with their fingerless gloves and metal plate headbands hanging around their neck don't help.
༼ つ ◕_◕ ༽つ Praise the Oppai ༼ つ ◕_◕ ༽つ

Mar 16, 2013 4:05 AM

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Poorfag-chan said:
Generic Shounen Character 1: PREPARE FOR THE ULTIMATE TECHNIQUE!!!!!!!!!!

Generic Shounen Character 2: OH NO! IT CAN'T BE! THE ULTIMATE TECHNIQUE!

Generic Shounen Unimportant Bystander: THIS IS HIS TRUE FOOORRRRMMMMMM!!!!

...That's about it.


Hey asshat... That scenario's the only reason I watch these chinese little girl shows.
Mar 16, 2013 4:14 AM
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Stfu with "chinese little girl shows" already, you're not funny, nor smart.
Mar 16, 2013 4:22 AM

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Kuraaiiya said:
Stfu with "chinese little girl shows" already, you're not funny, nor smart.

Really?
I thought I sounded pretty legit.
Mar 16, 2013 5:56 AM

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Because it's mostly porn with midgets or kids shows like Naruto.

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Mar 16, 2013 6:23 AM

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dankickyou said:
Because all anime is SHIT. The sooner you accept this fact the happier you'll be.


Mar 16, 2013 7:13 AM

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ChocolateRainbow said:
Why? Because all of the moe garbage Japanese Producers keep milking to the otaku audience. A stupid moe anime with different girls representing every dam skittle color. Completly leave no focus for the what should be the main theme for the show (*cough* K-on *cough*) Make a show that lasts 24 episodes that lacks in quality from every angle to bring an unsatisfying result. With all of that above, the average american now adays are too busy watching shows such as "the walking dead","the king of thrones" ect.


This. The influx of adaptions of horrible light novels and visual novels only hurts anime.
Mar 16, 2013 7:24 AM

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Because it's mostly porn with midgets or kids shows like Naruto.


Uh huh. That's why all the hentai has big, busty chicks, right? That's also why Naruto is published in a magazine targeted at mid-teens to young adults age group, right? Most of the anime that are released are targeted at mid-teens to adults, not kids.
Mar 16, 2013 7:28 AM

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maybe because many viewers think that (anime),powers,magic..etc is real then act like anime character in reality( in daily life )....then the other people that didn't watch anime think they are insance or think like a kid ...this is just a " maybe "
Mar 16, 2013 8:38 AM

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yhunata said:
ZetaZaku said:
Because it's mostly porn with midgets or kids shows like Naruto.


Uh huh. That's why all the hentai has big, busty chicks, right? That's also why Naruto is published in a magazine targeted at mid-teens to young adults age group, right? Most of the anime that are released are targeted at mid-teens to adults, not kids.
For some people, there are no teens. Just kids (with teens grouped here) and adults. Go figure, :|
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Mar 16, 2013 12:36 PM

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jst show them berserk. get ppl to stfu and destroy all stereotypes
Mar 20, 2013 11:45 AM

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Because people are stupid and ignorant.
Mar 20, 2013 12:20 PM

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The fanbase is loaded with creeps.
Mar 20, 2013 2:44 PM

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I once heard that the only way to utterly destroy something reputation is just to point out its fans...

Mar 20, 2013 2:50 PM

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Because

AlphaFTW said:
people are stupid and ignorant.


and

IceBurn said:
The fanbase is loaded with creeps.
Mar 20, 2013 2:53 PM

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Because it's Japanese
Insert wise quote here
Mar 20, 2013 2:54 PM

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Because of shounen like Naruto One Piece and Dragonball.
They're the cancer.
Mar 20, 2013 2:59 PM

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Because of the social stigma that animation is only for kids. It's not limited to the West; most adults in Japan are under this impression as well.
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becus naturo

Mar 20, 2013 3:23 PM

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Because it's Japanese
That's cold dude. I f it weren't for Japanese you wouldn't watch anime in the first place.
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Mar 20, 2013 6:43 PM

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Watching Cartoons is pointless becuase ive already watched the best ones I have when I was little, and the new ones are nothing but dirty adult cartoons.

and people who watch it are strange and spend too much time talking about it on forums, and eventually get obssessed and have strange mini figures of there favorite characters in there rooms.
Mar 20, 2013 7:11 PM

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Because they haven't watched Devilman.
Mar 20, 2013 7:15 PM

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Fanservice, people think fanservice and ecchi are the same as 'cartoon porn' at least that's what I here at school(they don't know I like anime but other people do like it) also those damned weabos and perverted 'otakus' who don't know what story and character depth is.
Mar 20, 2013 7:28 PM

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Cultural trends seen in anime are foreign to everyone outside of Japan, so people think strange/different=gay.

Also, obviously the typical stereotype is that all anime is nerd porn. Well, they're not exactly far off a lot of the time. How many anime can you name w/o a hint of ecchi, rape, or something along those lines? Also, believe it or not, beating off to a crappy drawing is generally looked down upon in most cultures....except maybe Japan lol.

Also, compared to something like Disney, anime doesn't appeal to a large family audience and has far inferior art and animation. Fact. Also, Disney makes tons of films, while a massive amount of anime is in a series format; not exactly sure if that has something to do with it, just thought I'd throw it out there. I think why shows like Pokémon and shit were so popular is because they were appropriate for children, had a reasonable dub and didn't so obviously contain countless Japanese cultural influences. They made it fit for all nationalities to relate to. That and it was like crack for kids.

I feel anime is less innovative a lot of the time. The repetitious themes and scenes you see in anime are unrivaled by all else. It gets fucking annoying.

Mar 20, 2013 7:41 PM

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I feel anime is less innovative a lot of the time. The repetitious themes and scenes you see in anime are unrivaled by all else. It gets fucking annoying.
Yeah. One would think that an animated TV series would be family-friendly or acceptable by the masses. I feel as though they're just wasting their time doing half-assed adaptations when they should be coming up with better (and possibly original) ideas. A lot of US animation is original, at least from what I've seen (obviously excluding stuff like the DC Universe).
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Why do you think anime/manga(in general) has bad reputation among the people who don't watch it?


Because they think anime is for kids. They don't find much difference between anime and cartoon, or they consider anime a slightly elder version of cartoon at best, yet they think anime is an immature entertainment. Since most of anime characters are teens, their stereotype is understandable. Anime freaks might defend anime, but the majority of people would go for live action films/tv series.
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Only because of xenophobia.
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Only because of xenophobia.

Yep it must be that...
Mar 20, 2013 9:05 PM

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I've always heard people say all anime and manga are too childish, others say it's too weird. I disagree with the people who said it's childish, but if they'd watched Boku no Pico as their first anime series, I would totally agree on the weird part of anime.

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