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| Damn.... This shit is so bad..... Feels like I'm watching a overly ambitious shonen series.... Whole score down from 7/10 to 6/10 2.5/5 |
twonlineMar 8, 2013 10:21 AM
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| "Your sister was the one who saved your life and oh did I mention that she did that by hitting me in the head with a wrench? And oh, she went away because I threatened to hurt you if she didn't haha lmao" "Ok but does she still loves robots?" "*Points gun on Aki* You aren't going to survive, kid" "I definitely will!! Because ROBOTS!!!!!" "Ok I won't kill you then" I'm overwhelmed by how good this writing is. |
| ohh i keep taking back my words.. i take back my words again from prev ep.. i dont hate misaki again :D i love this ep coz of frau and a touching ep.. |
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| LOL at the parrot saving Airi. xD I wonder why Kimijima just let Misaki send Sister Centipede to Aki and Kai. |
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| Well, to be honest, I just don't know what to say. Being a fan, I liked this episode, but... well. You know. Aki is still a great character. Really. Even if her speech wasn't believable, it was very sincere and rousing. Unfortunately, I can't say the same about the second part of the episode. It's hard for me to say this, but Robotics;Notes-anime is critically close to Chaos;Head- anime in awfulness. Like I said, I'm enjoying it personally, because I'm a fan of the series, but I really wouldn't recommend it to anyone outside of KagakuAdv-fandom... which is not s big, as I can see. (And I mean KagakuAdv-fandom, not Steins;Gate-fandom). |
FinjasMar 8, 2013 1:26 PM
| sorry guys just lost the plot.... Why is misaki going to kill mankind? Is she being mind-fucked by kou? and so forced to do so? what is kou's goal? Revenge? |
ClaraLiteraria said: It seems that everybody has to die in a series to be good. I don't see it like that. The problem is that you want another Steins;Gate-like series. And I don't want that, honestly. For me, another "Steins;Gate" with other setting would have been really boring and repetitive. And I like Robotics;Notes for what it is, no for what it is if we compare it to Steins;Gate, because I love both shows (and also Chaos;Head VN); I'm a "science adventure" fan, after all, and I'm loving all the conexions and references they're making in R;N. For me, this was a good episode. I'm really enjoying R;N. Let me disagree with you on that!.. It's not like we want "Steins;Gate with other setting", we want good, strong story that would've on the same quality level with Steins;Gate and Chaos;Head (VN, anime was awful). Instead we get this: bland, boring story with mostly lifeless characters, cheesy speeches in the moments of drama and incomprehensible twists. Yes, after success of Steins;Gate we had our bar set pretty high for this, but it still an underwhelming anime, at least in my opinion... |
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| Great speech, at the end it felt like an army being gathered to rebel :D... |
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AlexTrusk said: Let me disagree with you on that!.. It's not like we want "Steins;Gate with other setting", we want good, strong story that would've on the same quality level with Steins;Gate and Chaos;Head (VN, anime was awful). Instead we get this: bland, boring story with mostly lifeless characters, cheesy speeches in the moments of drama and incomprehensible twists. Yes, after success of Steins;Gate we had our bar set pretty high for this, but it still an underwhelming anime, at least in my opinion... Well, Steins;Gate is a masterpiece, and masterpieces don't appear every day. And just because S;G is amazing doesn't really mean that R;N and C;H are not good. I think this looks "lifeless" because of the adaptation. I haven't played the original VN, but for what I've read, it seems that it's pretty good. And for me R;N is not boring and never was, I enjoyed every moment (even the "slice of life" ones), because not everything is about conspiracies and the end of the world. Nisheeth said: I would agree that I liked this episode, and the series as a whole. The problem with Aki's speech, in my opinion, is that it is not well placed. And people don't want a series that is just like S;G. S;G was an excellent anime, and not just because of the plot like, but how it was executed. I would have loved R;N all the more if it was as well executed as S;G. And does Frau seem like Okabe to any one else or is it just me? Yeah, I also see Frau as a female Okabe. But she's more a mix of Okabe, Daru and probably Kurisu. Yeah, I agree with you, it could have been well executed. I think that, again, the problem is the anime adaptation. I thought from the very begining that 22 episodes were few for a really long visual novel. |
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| I don't want another S;G... EP20 made me drop the score from 9 to 7, probably cause the bullshit got my roof blown off... I just don't like happy resolutions, I guess. Still, Frau keeps being awesome. |
ltspfan said: seems the last part of this anime went guilty crown herewegoagain.jpg |
filas312 said: I don't want another S;G... EP20 made me drop the score from 9 to 7, probably cause the bullshit got my roof blown off... I just don't like happy resolutions, I guess. Still, Frau keeps being awesome. You gave a score 9 before this? Lol. |
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| Hmm, I do not want another Steins;Gate (I wanted it when this was announced, but starting from the first episode I saw that this is way too different). I rate it from all points of views, and can spot typical anime/cheap movie industry cliches, character development and so on, which makes it look pretty bad sometimes, in my opinion. And I'm not even talking about random story and focusing-on-too-many-things, yet not in a good way, which makes it blank and kind of pointless. Don't even want to to into the details about this. Oh yeah, and I don't think this anime is bad. It has it's good sides, I gave it 5/10 for now, which makes it at least "fine" in my kind of rating system. |
TimeTravel_0Mar 8, 2013 3:26 PM
Litrydow said: filas312 said: I don't want another S;G... EP20 made me drop the score from 9 to 7, probably cause the bullshit got my roof blown off... I just don't like happy resolutions, I guess. Still, Frau keeps being awesome. You gave a score 9 before this? Lol. Still kinda wondered that it'll go upwards from, dunno, 13th EP? Was kinda let down a few times and now I've lost my temper. And if this will keep going into the same direction, I'll probably drop to 6. |
filas312Mar 8, 2013 3:47 PM
| So many emotions. And Frau needs her own show. Frau;Notes. I'd watch that. |
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| LOL ironically, all of these complaints on this episode are JUST like Gunvarrel's last episode IN the anime! But I must agree, the parrot, the people from the school, even JAXA are putting their hopes in [the only robot left in the world wtf?] Gun-Pro1 instead of something like the police or the army, because calming people down from fake news is more important than saving the planet, right? Also, am I the only one that wonders why the lives of so many people are threatened? What's happening? Who was piloting that plane like a crazy mofo with that ghetto landing? I'm guessing we'll see Frau Koujiro's mother soon... with all the action, I was actually expecting HER to save Aki and her gang when the gun was pointed at them. Can someone explain to me who Sawana is? I think I missed something here... |
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| Wow, that Kimijima Kou is worse than I expected. He's really controlling Akiho's sister. even trying to kill herself didn't work. I wonder why she got into that suit in the first place. Nice to see everybody (including the school, JAXA and even Subaru's father) getting together to revamp the GunPro-1. I wonder if they'll be able to make it mobile- and combat ready enough before the launch. Looks like Sister Centipede got sent to Kai and Akiho. What information will she be able to give them? |
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| really disappointed. 2/5 |
sakuraoogami said: "Your sister was the one who saved your life and oh did I mention that she did that by hitting me in the head with a wrench? And oh, she went away because I threatened to hurt you if she didn't haha lmao" You forgot "Oh by the way, you sister got so obsessed with fighting me that she made a cybernetic bodysuit to fight me. A cybernetic bodysuit which I am currently using to control her!" No excuses can fix the amount of stupid in this series. |
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| Yeah, this episode... not so good. I actually think it makes sense that Aki's speech has so many shonen elements, considering her character. It doesn't mean it was well done, though. It could have been done a lot better, even without removing the dumb (from a real-world perspective) optimism and shonen cliches. When Aki asks if her sister still likes robots, she's not just being random. She wants to know how much Misa's changed on the inside. She wants to know if, although acting like a complete stranger, Misa is still the same person she used to know and admire. She wants to know if Misa still cares about what she is doing. She wants to know if the things Misa's done hurt herself the same way it hurts her. That question was not about robots, it was about Misa. And considering that they'll probably end up facing her, those are some important points to understand. The second half of the episode was "meh". Too many random people coming to help, IMO. But the part I thought was the worst in the episode (possibly in the entire show) was that thing with the parrot. That was a really bad case of Deus ex Machina. I'm willing to forget about it, if the VN has some sort of explanation, but in the anime it's just bad. I'm surprised that almost nobody's commented on that... You haters are disappointing me =P |
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Tulicloure said: Yeah, this episode... not so good. I actually think it makes sense that Aki's speech has so many shonen elements, considering her character. It doesn't mean it was well done, though. It could have been done a lot better, even without removing the dumb (from a real-world perspective) optimism and shonen cliches. When Aki asks if her sister still likes robots, she's not just being random. She wants to know how much Misa's changed on the inside. She wants to know if, although acting like a complete stranger, Misa is still the same person she used to know and admire. She wants to know if Misa still cares about what she is doing. She wants to know if the things Misa's done hurt herself the same way it hurts her. That question was not about robots, it was about Misa. And considering that they'll probably end up facing her, those are some important points to understand. The second half of the episode was "meh". Too many random people coming to help, IMO. But the part I thought was the worst in the episode (possibly in the entire show) was that thing with the parrot. That was a really bad case of Deus ex Machina. I'm willing to forget about it, if the VN has some sort of explanation, but in the anime it's just bad. I'm surprised that almost nobody's commented on that... You haters are disappointing me =P Yeah I totally agreed on what you said; the parrot was the only true problem in there. It's like if the producers went like : "OOooh Awesome speach by Aki-chan!" -moves on to the next episode- "... Wait a minute... AIRI HAD A GUN LOL WE FORGOT!! WTF WE DO ?" "THE PARROT TROLOLOL, WE GOT NO CHOICE". I have a feeling that the upcoming episode will only be about trying to explain to the viewers what happened and nothing really special will happen. I mean, I don't really understand why they went for Frau Koujiro and JAXA... Also, why was Sennouji there? How'd she know? Also, many things went wrong in this episode. For example, when Kimijima says Misaki was still playing Kill-Ballad... why did he say that? And plus it was instantly forgotten (TBH it was really obvious she was still playing to me, but it was sooo out of place). I think that if Robotics;Notes finishes without fixing what they did on this episode, we'll just have to blame the clear fact that they wanted to create the same effect they did in Steins;Gate Like Aki would say in this situation : " I CAN'T ACCEPT THIS EPISODE, IT DOESN'T FEEL RIGHT; GUNVARREL IS ALL ABOUT DEFEATING THE EVIL, WHY WOULD THEY DO SOMETHING LIKE THIS? " I mean, who knows, perhaps it's done on purpose! [/end of highly optimistic hopes] |
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| cheesy. I never expected R;N to turn like this only in the last few episodes :S |
| All you haters watched it right up until the last two episodes. Admit it, it's tugged in you so far you couldn't let go ;) |
| Akis speech was kinda annoying but i still love the character, not a very good ep but it was fun |
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Nisheeth said: blob said: I have a feeling that the upcoming episode will only be about trying to explain to the viewers what happened and nothing really special will happen. I mean, I don't really understand why they went for Frau Koujiro and JAXA... Also, why was Sennouji there? How'd she know? Also, many things went wrong in this episode. For example, when Kimijima says Misaki was still playing Kill-Ballad... why did he say that? And plus it was instantly forgotten (TBH it was really obvious she was still playing to me, but it was sooo out of place). We know that Kimijima is in the network. So I think it would be fair to assume he knows about who is looking for what. So I think that he knew Frau was searching for info on her mother, and Gunvarrel etc. He probably wanted her out of the way. They went after JAXA because they want to launch the Black Hole Bomb they got from SERN using a rocket. Remember Sawada telling Kai to give greetings to S Braun (reference to S;G)? That was Nae. She might have been informed by Sawada, or they might have been keeping tabs on Frau. As for why mention that she played Kill-Ballad? I think that was in response to whether she loved Robots. And I found it obvious too. Thanks for clearing that up! |
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| A few things: - Kimijima is executing Project Atum, the plan of the Committee of 300. The only question is the reasoning for him to help the Committee. - Kimijima controls Misa-nee not through the suit. Don't you remember what's the technology at his hand? The Noah. And Misaki's feeling of guilt is also a weakness for him to use. - Akiho is Akiho. This is the Akiho we always loved. Can you blame a person for having human flaws? She might be over-optimistic, but damn this is her characteristic! The world is going to end, she's just being true to herself, trying to cling on her dream and fight till the very end! Or you can just cower in a corner and wait for the world to be ended. - I'm okay with Akiho asking whether her sis still loves robots. Robots are the bond between Akiho and Misaki. She knows that her sis is crazily in love with robots, just like her. She needs to know if her sis hasn't lost her mind yet. Kimijima could of tricked her tho, but as we all know she's not quite the thinker. Fit her personality perfectly. |
KansokushaMar 8, 2013 11:37 PM
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| So... We start with Kamijina monologing, you know- just cause. Seems Misaki Killed Kamijina , and Kamijina blackmailed Misaki- who's supposed to be a genius, yet isn't smart enough to realize she KILLED A BAD GUY. They actually let you go for that. Also, you know what? He's data anyway. I bet he wants everyone to know and come poking around after him. Misaki is truly... Stupid. You know what? Someone Text Subaru suddenly. He can watch the stream the big baddie doesn't care is being broadcast to the world. Man, Kamijina must be bored outta his... whatever. Aki- you dimwit. Yes- the guy that decieved you all from the beginning and destroyed your sisters life- that guy would tell you the truth, because that's how he rolls... Stupid. So we have a gun for our enemies, and a puppet we could have kept hidden, but no- let's tell a bunch of secrets, NOT kill our enemies, and wait- let's kill the puppet- just 'cause. And, there's a parrot. Yep. That's what parrots do. Everyone should go to the site where you gave up building the impractical robot- and decide to rebuild it with the monopoles, because no way would you have thought that could have worked, been easier, or faster before-- No- starting from scratch is always the best plan. 'This suit chafes. I can't kill myself for some reason...' 'No way they'd send bad guys to this hanger- no one would come here, and it's not like anyone said people would be at a place like this...' 'Stupid landing gear...' Frau Bow rules. Too bad she can't hack & shit. Because hacking Kamijina could be a thing. Wait- how much time do they have? Ooh- Magic software. From Sawada- the guy always a step behind. No asking where he got it (From 'Deus Ex Machina' ville.) Wave projector device, eh? Bet that takes vector normalized 3d data sampled from multisource input converted to in OBJ format. No- I kid- it'll run on 'plot resolution intent', plain and simple. Ooh- The principal. Sign. Whatever. Ooh- Food! Even better! If only everyone they knew & people they didn't showed up to help- because robotics is way easy and more untrained hands doing last minute untested retrofits would make it go way faster with 30 people underfoot. Supersuit gonna get you!!! 'cause, you know- that's what a 'hostage' is for... Sister Centipede. Finally. I called it! There is 'officially' too much 'sh!t going on' for this to end well now. Prepare for everything to both happen at once, and be explained for no reason (as is already happening (Thanks, Kamijima). Man, just 2 more! |
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| Wasn't the wave projector given to Kai in the EP with the big monument? I guess they had a speech (that I-was-evil-oh-sorry-I'm-not guy) and then Kai got the device from him. And again, I didn't have much against the speech itself - it fits Aki's personality and stuff like that and that DIDN'T get me mad. I got mad at the parrot part, I mean - how stupid you've got to be to ruin great setting and mood doing something completely random that doesn't seem to go further than 'oh hai, we've got to get the casual watchers happy so we won't be doing what we want' - still, I wonder how much of that fail was related to the adaptation itself. And the ending was typical 'shit goes right' ending - come on... Kimijima being cliched and troped? Who cares, that's still the blatant 'I am evil' setting, completely uninteresting in the end, it had it potential, got ruined. Frau is still my top in the series. |
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filas312 said: Wasn't the wave projector given to Kai in the EP with the big monument? I guess they had a speech (that I-was-evil-oh-sorry-I'm-not guy) and then Kai got the device from him. And again, I didn't have much against the speech itself - it fits Aki's personality and stuff like that and that DIDN'T get me mad. I got mad at the parrot part, I mean - how stupid you've got to be to ruin great setting and mood doing something completely random that doesn't seem to go further than 'oh hai, we've got to get the casual watchers happy so we won't be doing what we want' - still, I wonder how much of that fail was related to the adaptation itself. And the ending was typical 'shit goes right' ending - come on... Kimijima being cliched and troped? Who cares, that's still the blatant 'I am evil' setting, completely uninteresting in the end, it had it potential, got ruined. Frau is still my top in the series. Yes, Kai got the device (Noah IV) from Sawada, but he was hidding it in that bag all the time. When they were talking with Kimijima, he also had that bag with Noah IV inside. I agree with you, I think that all the parrot-thing was so random. I would have preferred that Kai or Aki (or probably Mitchie) had stopped Airi from shoting that gun. But that fact doesn't make me stop liking the series. And about the happy ending... what do you want them to do? To hide in a corner and cry until the bombs explode and the sun kills 5 billion people? |
ClaraKujoMar 9, 2013 6:18 AM
| "Nobody knows what the future holds. That's why its potential is infinite"- Rintarou Okabe |
| Oh, he was called Sawada. I don't want them to stand down or stuff, but I'd rather like to see them try and succeed while being outnumbered, than watch the typical 'everybody helps because people are so great and stuff' crap - it's not realistic, maybe it's just cause I don't live in a similar environment I don't know that, I just don't consider it an interesting solution. Pretty generic one, if You'd ask me. And I never like those in the first place. Also, Kimijima Kou feels like if 5pb were inspired by Serial Experiments Lain. |
filas312Mar 9, 2013 6:28 AM
| Aki's speech was just lame, I could only facepalm myself. *Gun pointed at you* "Hur dur I likez robots!" This could've been so much better if it had been more serious from the start. The OP should've been more serious and the general art style should've been as well. I also think that the direction could've been better. To me it feels like it's only starting, I'm about to be able to take this seriously but this is supposed to be the epic "last battle"... |
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filas312 said: Oh, he was called Sawada. I don't want them to stand down or stuff, but I'd rather like to see them try and succeed while being outnumbered, than watch the typical 'everybody helps because people are so great and stuff' crap - it's not realistic, maybe it's just cause I don't live in a similar environment I don't know that, I just don't consider it an interesting solution. Pretty generic one, if You'd ask me. And I never like those in the first place. Also, Kimijima Kou feels like if 5pb were inspired by Serial Experiments Lain. Think about that: if they built a giant robot by themselves (as they tried before), it couldn't defeat Sumeragi. That's why they need the help of those Jaxa engineers and the money support of the parrot-company man (I can't remember his name). By the way, I still don't understand why they need their high-school partners, because they don't know anything about robotics. Also, remember that in Tanegashima they're all united (they showed us that in previous episodes). And yes, I agree with you when you say it's not realistic. But this is an anime, after all. Building giant robots and making them fight (or even move properly) is not realistic at all. And of course, dropping your conscience in the net after death is so unrealistic too. Yes, you're right. All Kimijima Kou thing makes me thing about Serial experiments Lain, but that's not strange at all, because Steins;Gate ending was inspired by The Butterfly Effect, after all. |
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MasterMeNL said: Aki's speech was just lame, I could only facepalm myself. *Gun pointed at you* "Hur dur I likez robots!" This could've been so much better if it had been more serious from the start. The OP should've been more serious and the general art style should've been as well. I also think that the direction could've been better. To me it feels like it's only starting, I'm about to be able to take this seriously but this is supposed to be the epic "last battle"... Still You have to agree that, no matter what stupid it was, the speech kind of fit her. I predict that this series won't end wrong, no matter what... Well, it may be realistic for those small socities, that's something I can't say for sure - but it's still pretty much lame. And I WAS interested in this series, I still am, but it probably deserved a better adaptation - can't tell, since I haven't played the VN. One thing I'm sure of: it'd be much better if it had more IMPACTOOOOOOOOOOO! |
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