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Feb 5, 2013 2:33 AM

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After seeing this a second time and not being delusional I have rather intense RAGE! WTF is this BS for real. This unreal. Maria and Mamoru got killed for real. I mean I can’t even apply my theorem I realized no matter almost what.

About my theorem on why it might have been possible for Maria/Mamoru to live on, I was thinking Mamoru evolved his Cantus or Maria perhaps in to acquiring Shape-shifting and cloning somehow. Thus in fear could have cloned themselves to fool squealer or at the very least to fool all of their death. By doing so the DNA and Denture fooling could have been possible and the belief they are alive out there.

About the reality, well reality sucks shit! With all the signs pointing that the death is more real than a joke I slowly realized my hatred. DEATH TO THE RATS AND TO ALL WHO ASSOCIATE WITH THEM! WTF! How could Maria and Mamoru die even. This is not thinkable. I still can’t believe. SOMEONE PROVE IT TO ME THEY ARE DEAD! Were is the LN passages to has more details of this? This could be the only shot and the manga might detail WTF happens. If anything it’s the following,

Whom comes from:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Backstab
Whom is pretty much head on. The reason I site it is cause the rat mostly learned this from that library shit I call it. It really is a big shit that gave huge amount of power to the Rats. After all Knowledge = Power.

IMO Maria was already at the Moth Colony and treated with death to hide for the time being. Gradually she let her guard down perhaps after sometime of having a kid with Mamoru. The kid was taken and this:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Brainwashing
Was possible to learn from the library shit. I infer strongly from the notion of Third Category of Class 4 forbidden documents says of catastrophe whom weapon building is told. Third category might also have other classes of weapon able technique like brainwashing. They did that to the kid in thinking it was the humans who killed his parents and easily make him into a killing machine. This goes back to what some said. However I think there is more to it.

About other references, IMO of other things learned by the Rats would be:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anarchist
And
Linked with
http://mises.org/community/blogs/brainpolice/archive/2008/05/11/anarchism-and-democracy.aspx
While together both already can give out a nice set of brain food. Combined with:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Riot_control
Could have led to how the F the rats knew of camouflage and being in crowds while killing that person. Terrorism might another knowledge they got from the library.

About Third Category of Class 4 forbidden documents says of catastrophe whom weapon building is told, basically my thinking was to all in the room of the conference. Euh WTF are you doing. RED ALERT! NOW! Setup defence around. The groups of five should have been done before even any annihilation is told. In case they got this:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spying
From the library shit. Just that notion makes them know all what is planned ahead.

So in not doing so Torigae Hiromi IS DEAD! GREAT SHIT LEADERS THERE ARE! Amazing really. This cost so many lives and so much shit that it’s incredible dumbfounded.

About Maria’s figure, in the spoiler (NSFW)the explanation is perhaps that Maria conveyed a last appearance and got sent to Heavens with this guy? Looks logical to me but I still refuse to believe she is dead.

About thee end, well I am DAMN PISSED OFF! I WANT ALL THE RATS DEAD! ERASE THE RACE! On the anger makes me caps. Oh this is really bad to cap like this. I would go to all of Japan and make sure every spec of that race is dead. That’s all. Nothing more to add other than the first reaction. THE CREATOR IS STUPID! He should have never gotten Maria and Mamoru killed like that. They better show WTF happens to them before they die.

Show me the truth damn it! Creator man!

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Feb 5, 2013 3:07 PM

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That was great! Can't wait for the next episode. I can't help but admit I'm a little lost though >_< This is all very subtly but brilliantly done haha xD

Was that girl flying in the blue light Maria...? That would explain Saki's surprise. And what was that with Maria at the end ?

Uwaaa so many unknowns. But it keeps me on my toes ^_^

But I really hate those Monster Rats. I know it's horrible, but when Tomiko-san said what she did, I was pretty dang happy.
Feb 5, 2013 6:24 PM

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I think you guys should consider holding all those spolerish info for yourselves.
Feb 5, 2013 7:09 PM

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Damn that bald dude that died was kinda cool. Shisei is awesome though especially those yes. Kill those damn bastard rats.

Maybe they found a way to harness powers or take them from people?

I hope Kiroumaru is still alive and comes back.
Feb 5, 2013 8:01 PM
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I want to see the next episode!!!
Feb 5, 2013 8:19 PM

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Leave it to Shinsekai to make you speechless. So that's the reason that guy was wearing a mask.

You have to give it to Yakomaru, he's smart to come up with something like that.
Feb 5, 2013 10:14 PM

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shit just got real...everything is starting to make sense now (at least a bit)

I hope maria and that dude is still alive. damn that yakomaru
Feb 6, 2013 2:03 AM

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VanishingKira said:
I thought I'd share this,it might have some spoilers so watch at your own risk.






Nah, that's just an old classmate or a work buddy they grouped with. Maria wouldn't go back to the village so easily.

I knew Yakomaru wasn't good. Although probably he wouldn't have came up with all that plan without that mysterious source of information.
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Feb 6, 2013 11:48 AM

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It was a great episode,really liked that madman's death.
Feb 6, 2013 6:28 PM

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great episode, cant wait for the next one bah xD
Feb 7, 2013 7:38 PM

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YES! Finally a great episode! Maybe Shun back in one of the next episodes as the Ogre??
Feb 7, 2013 8:03 PM

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kpk10 said:
I think it's clear now that it's not Maria who should have died all those years ago but Squealer.

So it's all actually Saki and Satoru's fault because, if Saki wouldn't have saved him from the queen or if Satoru wouldn't have helped him and his colony in battle Squealer would have been dead and none of that shit would have happened :/


Hindsight is 20/20 man. I think they made a rational decision helping Squealer back on the summer trip. After all, he did rescue them in the first place, and they needed his help to get out of that situation.
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Feb 7, 2013 8:05 PM

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Frontalbrise said:
EmeralDragon23 said:
4. Maria wanted to have kids
I thought about that too. A few people might think that she might be dead or alive, but recall the queerat-queens. Maybe they lobotomized Maria into a birthmachine. That would be very cruel to see.


Even if they did, it wouldn't be very efficient because she can only give birth to one child at a time, unlike the bakenezumi queens.
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Feb 8, 2013 6:59 PM

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DAMN! This show just got awesome!
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Feb 8, 2013 8:42 PM

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dude, that fucking scream in the preview...
Don't forget.
Always, somewhere,
someone is fighting for you.
As long as you remember her,
you are not alone.
Feb 10, 2013 10:34 AM
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near the end when tomiko san mentioned how tomigae suggested postponing the festival, i dont understand the meaning of this. i'm probably just slow but could someone please explain? not sure if it just means she died or something
Feb 17, 2013 1:27 PM

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yukinaninja said:
near the end when tomiko san mentioned how tomigae suggested postponing the festival, i dont understand the meaning of this. i'm probably just slow but could someone please explain? not sure if it just means she died or something

Yes. She did... and it's ironic because she's the one who said they shouldn't have the festival.

THIS EPISODE WAS OVER 9000!!!!
Feb 23, 2013 8:38 AM

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Sorry, but even assuming they had sex immediately, you have to give them the 9 months pregnancy. It can't be older than 11.
Feb 25, 2013 10:18 PM

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What was with the naked lady with the huge knockers flying out of that dudes eyeball?
Feb 26, 2013 7:08 PM

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There was something in the second episode that was bugging me ever since... Saki said: "I guess if Maria had never been born, many people could have been spared.".

DAT FORESHADOWING. Guess it all makes sense now.
Mar 17, 2013 12:20 PM

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Maybe the director of this series doesn't like an opposite sex relationship? :/
Before, they showed us some scenes of Shun and Satoru kissing.. Saki and Maria too..
But when it comes to Saki and Satoru? there was none! ><
Mar 17, 2013 12:40 PM

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wow. i like this episode..
that 4eyed guy is very powerful!
i wonder who is that girl just came and flying up in the sky..
Mar 21, 2013 3:21 PM

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Dang.. So Maria and Mamoru died from the Queerats then? So they really did exterminate Maria and Mamoru back then.. That's they only way that the bones even have the DNA of the two. Seems like Saki accepted their death, whatnot with her yukata matching that of mourning clothing. Plus the ending scene with Maria's final words so to speak. And now that I look at the ending visuals, it's not that the plot is going to be all about Maria and how she and Mamoru are planning all these issues, it's about Saki accepting the death of Maria. Sine in the visuals we saw Maria's spirit/essence fly up to the sky like how one's spirit would do after the body dies.

Nice episode, the ending visuals really are nicely animated, especially those falling sakura petals^^ We got to see more of Satoru comforting Saki too<3 But I do hear that it was supposed to be more than what they showed us >.< Kyaa!

Next ep!
Mar 23, 2013 9:25 PM

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"We can't have children since we're both girls, right?"
THE FORESHADOWING IS SO STRONG HERE. And I would know, since I've read spoilers. lol

I'm excited! This Queerats vs Humans arc seems so exciting and interesting! :) AHHHHHHHHHHHH!
Too bad I have to sleep now ):

Electromaster said:
There was something in the second episode that was bugging me ever since... Saki said: "I guess if Maria had never been born, many people could have been spared.".

DAT FORESHADOWING. Guess it all makes sense now.

HOLY SHIT!

synd465 said:
What was with the naked lady with the huge knockers flying out of that dudes eyeball?

Death feedback I think...

Zel_Ezl said:
Maybe the director of this series doesn't like an opposite sex relationship? :/
Before, they showed us some scenes of Shun and Satoru kissing.. Saki and Maria too..
But when it comes to Saki and Satoru? there was none! ><

+1
Mar 27, 2013 6:50 PM
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Damn, Maria and Mamoru are dead already... I liked her... Him, not so much, but still. That ending scene made me cry, this show needs to stop making me cry .____. I think her death saddens me so much because she and Saki were SO freaking perfect together, like, the most beautiful couple ever. <3 Damn.

Ahem, moving on... Should I comment about how badass Shisei was in this episode? Really. He is quite the handsome also.... Ah, what is the deal with his eyes? I didn't get it. Lastly, I still want at least one kissing scene between Saki and Satoru. Just one...
Apr 3, 2013 3:55 PM

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Damn they're really dead... that's rather sad, I wished to see them reappear again with a happy reunion! But ow damn that masked man, his eye's sure are interesting two iris in one! That's sick and what power he holds!

Great power but sad to know the information! But still awesome character and story development!
Apr 15, 2013 6:07 AM

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Really sad that they are already dead.
Shit seems to be getting really serious now, but I suppose it is to be expected... the way the humans treated the Bakenezumi could only lead to rebellion at a certain point.
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Apr 20, 2013 10:33 PM

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Damn, good episode! Crazy battle.
Apr 28, 2013 3:03 PM

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One of the best episodes so far.

Surprise attack (good strategy btw) after the annihiliation of the Giant Hornet colony (or just the army?) with the aid of (possibly) a human (which could be the other two).

Shisei Kaburagi was fucking badass. Especially him absorbing the blast and releasing it back at them.

We didn't really know the big guy, but I still feel sad for him :/ What the heck was up with that eye-lazor?

I don't think Maria and Mamoru are dead. And was that foreshadowing them having a child now? It could be at most 11 if I count it right.
Apr 28, 2013 3:04 PM

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Queerats really used terror tacticts. What happen to the group that went to annihilate them i wonder. Also it's quite clear cantus power was used to destroy Giant Hornet colonies. So who is the human helping them. Is Maria and Mamoru really dead?
If not then how did Yakomaru managed to pull such a trick that will even fool a DNA test?

I was thinking about Maria's bones and such. If both of their friends are really dead could it be that Maria left a child that Yakomaru raised? Then Saki's words about Maria could still be true. Could they have used Maria in the same way they used their mother queen? Then they will have a cantus user they raised.


rul said:
Why did that light come out of the bald guys eyes when he was dying and who was the women that came out of the light?


My guess is that this has something to do about the mysterious question on where all that energy they use for cantus comes since food doesn't seem to be enough except if each of them ate as much as 100 people.
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May 16, 2013 10:29 PM

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Shit just got real.
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Jul 4, 2013 12:21 AM

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Those damn rats -_-
Judging by the preview the next episode is going to be intense :o
Jul 31, 2013 9:28 AM

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I knew that bastard Yakomaru was up to something!

Aug 20, 2013 6:49 PM

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synd465 said:
What was with the naked lady with the huge knockers flying out of that dudes eyeball?
I'm wondering the same thing.
Aug 24, 2013 4:43 PM

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I miss Maria :(
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Sep 20, 2013 8:48 PM

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shit DAT EYES!
queerat just start it :3
shit just getting real again ! XD

LET THE WAR BEGINS!~
Oct 9, 2013 1:32 AM
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Zomg Saki is so pretty now. x.x This political maneuvering seems really dark and mysterious.... unfortunately the preview kinda revealed too much. x.x Ah well.
Oct 26, 2013 4:35 PM

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Mamoru and Maria are really dead? ;___; I totally didn't expect that. I wonder if the really powerful guy having two pupils per eye has any significance. The woman coming out of the other guy's eye was really weird. Definitely the most nerve-wracking episode so far, I was on the edge of my seat for most of it.
Jan 10, 2014 3:32 PM

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I think the Queerats, especially Yakomaru - Squealer - are such awesome villains! Humans really shouldn't have underestimated them.
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Jan 15, 2014 7:30 AM

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5/5

Episode that shows the concept and argues that the real enemy of humanity is man himself, who always reaches out to want to self-destruct.
For the series, if the anime are childish, then you explain to me why they are more truthful than many television programs made to circumvent the people.
Plot and narrative that are cresiuti another step in reaching an optimal level!
Animations and good designs.
Feb 22, 2014 5:33 AM

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honestly i'm not sure what freaked me out more, the 'hello' written in white on top of the red, the preview for the next episode, or the guy with four pupils
|ω・)
Feb 28, 2014 8:08 PM

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Great episode!!! Four pupils was a real shocker I wonder why he has them? He's still a BAMF though. I really am starting to wonder about Maria now and where she went, and if she is alive how does she tie into all of this. Still can't forget the narrative long ago about her better off being dead or never born, so I'm still waiting for that.

Mar 21, 2014 8:49 AM

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i never trusted those bakenezumi any way
Apr 24, 2014 4:26 PM
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wow! four pupils!
Apr 28, 2014 6:24 PM

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Fuck, this show stress me so much, I feel like I'm gonna crap myself.

The last two scene gave me chills down my spine. First, Tomiko bloody war declaration to Squealer and Maria trying to convince herself that she's doing the right thing.

I didn't expected an assault so ''early''. There is still 7 episodes left, I thought that Squealer attack would happen more in the 22e episode maybe. Anyway, they failed but won in some way. They failed to take over the town, but they for sure instored a climate of terror in it. When we look back on it, it was more like a terrorist attack than anything else. Those queerats were cannon fodders.

The next episode is called ''Darkness''. The last episode that was called ''May the darkness...'' was when Shun became our tragic karma demon. The question is : is Maria became a fiend or do she do that thinking it is for the best for the human civilization? Because, you know, there definitely is a problem in their social organization. It is worse than a dictatorship, they are living in fake clouds, filled in a false sense of security. One of the greatest distopia I seen :)

Also, almost forgot about that, four eyes dude... Who is he? He's so fucking creepy, he doesn't even look like a human.
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Jun 16, 2014 7:13 PM

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Tomiko is determined to give Squealer the most brutalizing torture he will ever witness in his rodent lifetime. Shisei looks badass and I'm glad he didn't die as I expected from the explosions.
Jul 7, 2014 4:08 PM

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And the plot thickens. Great to see Shisei in action and weird-eye dude as well.
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Jul 20, 2014 5:37 PM

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Okay, this, I liked this. It was pretty cool how the meeting and festival were switched back and forth. A bit jarring at first, but it turned out to be a good effect in the end. Oh crap, at the implications that a human is helping the Monster Rats, I'm betting on Maria at least doing it. The out of the blue scene with her at the end kind of makes me think so. Not sure about Mamoru. I know it was stated that the bodies were "definitely" theirs. But, I don't for a minute believe that. I have a bad feeling that they may have been lobotomized like the queen was.
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Aug 2, 2014 3:13 AM

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wow, the strongest cantus user is so powerful

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"I know it was stated that the bodies were "definitely" theirs. But, I don't for a minute believe that. I have a bad feeling that they may have been lobotomized like the queen was. "
i really can't see maria helping the queerats, being controled may make more sense
but the bones being the real ones seems so strange

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Aug 5, 2014 11:30 PM

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Does anyone understand the giant woman spirit/illusion(?) thing coming out of Koufuu's eyeball??
Maybe it's covered more in the novel :/
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