| So I've seen quite a number of people's profiles now where they appear to be boasting about the fact that they never drop anything, and now that I've come to realise it's a fairly common view that dropping a series is bad, I'd like to ask - why? So you can understand my confusion, here's why this view makes no sense to me: - It creates the sense that you care more about coming across as a hardcore anime fan more than actually enjoying the anime you watch. - It's kind of depressing to spend hours of your life watching something you aren't enjoying, when you're not gaining anything in doing so. - It seems illogical and hypocritical if you don't apply this view to everything in life e.g. books, movies, sitcoms, but I'd be scared to think how much of your life would be wasted doing things you don't enjoy if you lived like this. I'm not posting this to go 'you're all wrong and stupid!' or have an argument with the people who hold this view, I'm just wondering if there's something I haven't thought of & would like to hear the reasons for people having this view, especially to the extent that they view other anime fans in higher regard if they are also non-droppers. |
| Some aspects: Many people think only when you can finish the show can you criticize its shittiness. Many people believe completistism is looked up upon since they can persevere through 26episodes of crap. Persevere = positive trait. Also look at why people continue to watch crap thread. Common answers are: It's so bad it's entertaining. Started it, might as well finish it. Hoped it got better. Realize how crappy anime can be and enjoy the good ones more. Masochistic. |
| I was like this once. Then the Summer 2012 season hit. Why? Why the fuck not. |
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| Gotta respect them for being able to sit through crap. Personally I only finished 2-3 series I didn't like out of my Completion list. |
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Tachii said: Some aspects: Many people think only when you can finish the show can you criticize its shittiness. Many people believe completistism is looked up upon since they can persevere through 26episodes of crap. Persevere = positive trait. Also look at why people continue to watch crap thread. Common answers are: It's so bad it's entertaining. Started it, might as well finish it. Hoped it got better. Realize how crappy anime can be and enjoy the good ones more. Masochistic. I'd agree that you can't watch just a couple of episodes of a 26 episode show and have a proper opinion on it, but that doesn't mean you can't say 'it wasn't for me'. I hope people don't feel the need to finish something just so people are more likely to listen to their opinion when they say it sucked! It seems like a complete misunderstanding of what's respectable about perseverance if someone believes they have it because they could finish a crappy anime series. Spend that time going out and persevering through some hard volunteer work or something! I'd say of the remaining 5 reasons, I have no argument against #5, #1 & #3 could just apply to anyone if a series was kind of average, but the other 2 seem kind of... well, I guess they're legit reasons people might give, but I'd find them hard to agree with as making much sense. |
| Well, I'm not really one to talk, but I know some people don't drop for the numbers...(as in how many anime they've watched and stuff) Also, they might do it so that they can say that they've watched it, or maybe they didn't want to give up...o.o idk lol x) |
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| If it's only a 12 episode series, who cares? It might grow on you! The ending might may turn out great! Other times i've bought an anime that i thought i'd like (Eden of the East) but then it turned out pretty lackluster. I dont wanna throw it away since i paid for it, i might as well watch it all. A reverse question would be: Do you feel "cool" dropping an anime? |
ChessKitty said: #4 is really rare, I think. But sometimes people just feel like watching something crappy. Might be a combination of the 3 common sense ones which later resolves into 4.I'd agree that you can't watch just a couple of episodes of a 26 episode show and have a proper opinion on it, but that doesn't mean you can't say 'it wasn't for me'. I hope people don't feel the need to finish something just so people are more likely to listen to their opinion when they say it sucked! It seems like a complete misunderstanding of what's respectable about perseverance if someone believes they have it because they could finish a crappy anime series. Spend that time going out and persevering through some hard volunteer work or something! I'd say of the remaining 5 reasons, I have no argument against #5, #1 & #3 could just apply to anyone if a series was kind of average, but the other 2 seem kind of... well, I guess they're legit reasons people might give, but I'd find them hard to agree with as making much sense. I've no disagreement here. But well, most people are still kids and some haven't "grown up". They don't really know the importance of time. Nothing defines "just drifting through life" more than being bored enough that they'll even watch crap to pass the time. But yeah, some people do actually finish crap just so they can justify how crappy it is. I'm pretty sure they aren't the majority though. |
| because you don't give a show the chance it may deserve when you drop it, let's take Steins;Gate as an example, it's not that good in the beginning, but it become much much better. if you dropped the show you are gonna miss that. but yeah, sometimes you can "smell" a bad show and dropping it is better than wasting your time. |
IcecreamManwich said: If it's only a 12 episode series, who cares? It might grow on you! The ending might may turn out great! And then School Days happened.. |
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IcecreamManwich said: If it's only a 12 episode series, who cares? It might grow on you! The ending might may turn out great! Other times i've bought an anime that i thought i'd like (Eden of the East) but then it turned out pretty lackluster. I dont wanna throw it away since i paid for it, i might as well watch it all. A reverse question would be: Do you feel "cool" dropping an anime? I'm not trying to advocate the alternative extreme that anything average/less than average should be immediately dropped, regardless of its length. I've definitely stuck with short average things in case they get better, so I fully understand that. But it's not quite the same as sticking with everything no matter what. I also understand if you've paid for something that you'd want to see it through or it's definitely been a waste of money, but I guess I wasn't thinking about purchasing things. Maybe for all I know all the people with this view pay for all their anime! But I can't really see how anyone would feel cool for dropping an anime. It's just a thing you do. If you don't like something you leave it alone. If I met a fairly intolerable person whilst out with friends, I wouldn't go out of my way to spend most of the night with them, I'd stay out of their way and get on with interacting with people I liked. |
IcecreamManwich said: Yeah and there is not much more than 1000 series which are around 12 episodes long. How about finding something good instead of making sure if shit really is shit.If it's only a 12 episode series, who cares? It might grow on you! The ending might may turn out great! |
| I definitely have superpowers. I can feel it in my balls. |
| Unless your pushing your opinion onto others then there is nothing respect has to do with not dropping an anime, its all personal and depends whether it suits your taste or not. |
| Dunno, I drop tons myself. |
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| What's respectable about it? Hmmm I would never call it that but I'd imagine that finishing what you start comments on your perseverance. Perseverance is an admirable and respectable trait. And just because you hate whatever an anime is currently doing doesn't mean you'll hate that anime when it ends. That is called optimism. Is it respectable, dunno. It isn't a bad trait to have though. |
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| i did it once with school days.... if you asked me why, it would be to see how crappy of an end it would have, as i heared it was total crap and wanted to see for myself. also, until arount episode 6 it was quite good, so might as well finish it to see what happened to a show with potential |
| Honestly I can't think of any...but that's only my opinion. I know some people just like finishing what they started, so they don't drop anything. |
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Karhu said: IcecreamManwich said: Yeah and there is not much more than 1000 series which are around 12 episodes long. How about finding something good instead of making sure if shit really is shit.If it's only a 12 episode series, who cares? It might grow on you! The ending might may turn out great! Calm down bro, no need to be a dick. |
Tachii said: Some aspects: Many people think only when you can finish the show can you criticize its shittiness. Masochistic. I kind of agree with this one though. There are some animes that really suck in the beginning but get pretty good. And vice verse. I do think that to truely criticize a show you should have seen all of it. That said I drop shows occasionally. |
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| maybe non-droppers are just masochists. :) |
| I don't know why they do it but If I don't like it I'm dropping it! |
| I'm one of those people who don't drop anything. It never really ocurred to me as something to be praised, but personally, I find good qualities in most everything I watch (even a modicum of enjoyment for those <4). |
| What do you think you're piloting? Great Mazinger? Dangaioh? For Pete's sake, this isn't some robot cartoon whose main character is an autistic kid or some punk. - Kiichi Goto, Mobile Police Patlabor |
ChessKitty said: So I've seen quite a number of people's profiles now where they appear to be boasting about the fact that they never drop anything, and now that I've come to realise it's a fairly common view that dropping a series is bad, I'd like to ask - why? So you can understand my confusion, here's why this view makes no sense to me: - It creates the sense that you care more about coming across as a hardcore anime fan more than actually enjoying the anime you watch. - It's kind of depressing to spend hours of your life watching something you aren't enjoying, when you're not gaining anything in doing so. - It seems illogical and hypocritical if you don't apply this view to everything in life e.g. books, movies, sitcoms, but I'd be scared to think how much of your life would be wasted doing things you don't enjoy if you lived like this. I'm not posting this to go 'you're all wrong and stupid!' or have an argument with the people who hold this view, I'm just wondering if there's something I haven't thought of & would like to hear the reasons for people having this view, especially to the extent that they view other anime fans in higher regard if they are also non-droppers. A lot of people do spend a lot of time researching anime they plan on watching.So they will have no dropped anime or only a handful of dropped anime. Besides that a lot of people pay for their anime so why waste money on something if you are not going to watch it. I research most of the anime before I have even watched it.So my drop list only consists of 3 anime. |
| Almost dropped Clannad after a few eps thinking, this aint for me. Since then I was watching fantasy/action stuff, but completed it later on and it really grew on me and I like it a lot. An even better example is Medaka Box. Pretty booring all and all but the ending was really nice and now I plan on watching its 2nd season since I think it will be more like the ending of the first. Will not however continue a 500ep series if I get boored after the first 200. Probably |
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IcecreamManwich said: I'm always calm, also e-peen in yards. I pointed out the quantity, that's not called being a dick, that's called being right. ヽ（´ー｀）┌Karhu said: IcecreamManwich said: Yeah and there is not much more than 1000 series which are around 12 episodes long. How about finding something good instead of making sure if shit really is shit.If it's only a 12 episode series, who cares? It might grow on you! The ending might may turn out great! Calm down bro, no need to be a dick. |
| I definitely have superpowers. I can feel it in my balls. |
| To me it's not about being 'respectable' or 'hardcore'. Mostly I don't drop anime because I truly am able to find a way to enjoy just about every anime I've ever seen. Perhaps that's hard to believe but that's just the way it is for me, I have an open mind and a very wide range of tastes. Also not physically capable of working or spending time doing much else so I've got a pretty damn good excuse to watch something that I feel is only a 6/10 or 'average'. Oh and I'd like to point out that there have been quite a few anime that I initially wasn't very impressed with but got better and by the end I loved it. So there's always the chance that you could be passing up on a potential favorite anime especially if you're one of those people who feel the need to judge and drop a series by the first 20 minutes of it. |
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| I don't care if people respect me or not because of what's on my drop list or how many episodes I watched before I dropped it. If I don't like something, I'm not gonna force myself to sit through that kind of garbage. |
كنت تهدر وقتك عن طريق ترجمة هذه. mattbenz99 said: Christians and Satanists are technically the same thing |
HappyRadio3000 said: daintybiscuit said: maybe non-droppers are just masochists. :) This is about as asinine and baseless as assuming that all droppers are elitists egomaniacs with a hopeless superiority complex. I haven't dropped any anime so far, Its not because I think I'm special or anything, I just haven't found any anime that we're so terrible that I wanted to drop it, that's when I give it a three, which I haven't done yet. erm, check the :) it was a joke |
| i have had a few shows turn out to be very very good in the end after i had dropped them, its not worth risking them plus how the fuck can you judge something if you havent actually watched it all the way only time dropping i think is acceptable is if its like gintama or one piece or something cause those are really long, but hey i put up the pain to sit through bleach to the end so whats the point in dropping any longer shows |
Immahnoob said: Jizzy, I know you have no idea how to argue for shit, tokiyashiro said: Jizzy as you would call yourself because youre a dick The most butthurt award goes to you And clearly you havent watched that many shows thats why you cant determine if a show is unique or not Or maybe you're just a child who likes common stuffs where hero saves the day and guys gets all the girls. Sad taste you have there kid you came up to me in the first place making you look more like a kid who got slapped without me even knowing it and start crying about it to me |
DJIzzyIzzyHitler said: but hey i put up the pain to sit through bleach to the end so whats the point in dropping any longer shows Respect points +10 Teach me master. |
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| As someone who attempts at watching a majority of the new anime airing per season, you'll find I rarely ever finish every title I start, and thus my drop list is fairly large, hell, it isn't even half of my drop list as I usually avoid titles I've drop after the first couple episodes, though rather than using the term 'drop', it's more like I was not interested in it during the attempt. I'm sure there are plenty of other users who stick with the currently airing anime, or at least try out the first few episodes weekly, then decide whether to continue it or not. Whether they chose to put that anime on their drop list is up to them. |
| I can usually tell just by looking at the synopsis and examples of the art if I will like it or not... so I usually don't start shows that I probably won't like in the first place. Thus I have a pretty low drop rate. |
 "The individual has always had to struggle to keep from being overwhelmed by the tribe. If you try it, you will be lonely often, and sometimes frightened. But no price is too high to pay for the privilege of owning yourself." -Friedrich Nietzsche |
| I only do drop shows when I think it's not going anywhere or maybe there are other shows in the current season that I'd rather be watching. |
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| Nothing. If I feel like an anime I'm watching is shit - it usually is. |
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| I don't think respectable is quite the right word ChessKitty. There is certainly no real reason why dropping a show you're not enjoying should be improper conduct after all it's your free time no one else's and you should be free to do with it as you please. Perhaps elitist might be a better word to use? |
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| I think it's dumb,but hey I completed a few shows I hated too,like Gurern Lagann for example but that was more like curiosity about is this ever gonna become good |
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| I don't know why I would drop a show that is only 12-13 episodes. You can knock it out in a couple of hours, so why not? |
Macklovin said: I don't know why I would drop a show that is only 12-13 episodes. You can knock it out in a couple of hours, so why not? Cause you could watch something enjoyable. |
| I hate it when people rate shit that they've dropped, you can't really judge something you haven't finished. I personally don't drop anything because once I start something I feel like I have to finish it, also if I drop something halfway through I feel like I wasted my time. |
| I agree with most of the OP, it seems wasteful to continue watching something you don't like. I guess people find it respectful since it shows dedication to one's hobby, but I'd rather spend that time investing in my other hobbies. I end up putting most anime in either my drop or on-hold list, depending on whether or not I'd consider revisiting it. I'm usually more consistent in finishing my manga though. |
| They watch because: - They hope it will improve. - They write reviews. - They can't bring themselves to drop an anime. - They haven't found an anime worth dropping. - They can. |
| First of all, I do drop things, I just don't list them. I don't have a problem with people not dropping stuff. I think it's admirable how much they can put up with a lot anime that I could not stand, even if they didn't enjoyed it. Also, it might be a waste of time, but aren't all of the hobbies a waste of time? And, about the things the OP said, I have this in response: -Maybe people who don't drop anime have actually enjoyed at least a little every anime they ever watched. I do accept that there are some people who probably want to come across as a hardcore fan, but even so, I believe you have to enjoy something about an anime you watched complete. -About the depressing part, well, you see it that way but many other people don't, and I don't think it's true that you're not gaining anything while watching an anime. You have to catch something from it. -It's not hypocritical nor illogical. You don't have to apply the same rules to every single thing you do. |
| It's just an OCD thing for me, really. I don't think I'm better than anyone else just because I didn't drop a shitty series. |
| There is nothing respectable about not dropping anime. Your thread is just feeding those people who think it is elitism. |
| As a child, I was told that society is a melting pot of talents; knowledge and experience combined to form important alloys that will contribute to mankind. When I got to highschool, however, I thought that it's more like a river in which the water represents our peers while we ourselves are the stones in the river. Constant erosion by mindless majority sheeping has made us lose our unique edge. After I hit the age of 18, I realized that I've been wrong all along. Society is no melting pot. Society is no river. Society is a person, a very skilled rapist, and he has fucked us all. |
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