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| THIS IS AN ANIME ONLY DISCUSSION POST. DO NOT DISCUSS THE MANGA BEYOND THIS EPISODE. ---------------------------------------- what the heck happened to the animation? did they just stop caring? did the artists go on strike? was their budget slashed to nothing? it was like something underfunded middle schoolers would put together in their spare time :( |
| I know! :( It's disapointing to see such pretty animation be reduced to drawing on sticks. They did so many odd and cheap animation changes within the last few episodes... I just completed the series today so... I was very disapointed. |
| Just watched this episode today... I was really shocked with the sudden change and found the paper cutout/drawing on sticks stuff really irritating! I almost decided against watching the rest of the series... it was a relief to see ep.20 was back on the normal side. But in general I must say I'm a bit thrown off by the way the animation style changes and stuff are handled. Experimenting with the medium is fine, but there are times when Kare Kano looks way cheap... and it's a pity, as it kinds of disturbs the attention from what is otherwise a touching, finely written story. Ah, it's frustrating. I feel like I could love these series so much more, were the production different! Still, I'm going to finish it. :) |
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| "Restrictions breed creativity." - some wise old dude - From everything I've heard concerning the production of the show, they simply ran out of money to animate anything at even moderate standards. Not surprising, considering Gainax's storied history of poor budget management (Gun Buster's finale in black and white, Eva's final two TV episodes). But I for one liked that they weren't afraid to try something new. Anime would be pretty boring for me if everything looked exactly the same as everything else. With a shoe-string budget, they were still able to come up with some inventive methods of storytelling. It was fun for one episode, charming even. |
| Ideal anime wife? |
| Eh? It wasn't so bad. Gainax has always had a history of experimenting with animation. Often you can't even call some of the stuff they do animation. I don't mind. I actually thought it was funny. The way people were warning me about this upcoming arc I thought my eyes were going to melt or something. |
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| Wow. They either had huge arguements in the staffroom, seriously blew all their money or just gave up. Interesting (could be even regarded as original and good) result though. |
sugarplumfairyOct 15, 2009 4:50 PM
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| I got used to it after 10 min, and I actually liked it. Although, haven't they used a different animation style in EVERY episode? Because that's what annoys me the most. I wish they would stay consistent. |
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| Draw anime they said. |
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| What the hell did I just watch? |
| I think the budget was somewhere around ¥439.... fail. |
FailureDude said: you guys are morons. the animation in this episode is awesome and original. lol I couldnt agree more, it was very original. Did anybody notice how they burned everything at the end, they must have been really ashamed XD |
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| Animation is very awesome! Yay GAINAX is so creative! So original! I fell in love with this idea and this episode. I don't know why people hates it, it was very very good! |
Canelo said: FailureDude said: the animation in this episode is awesome and original. lol I couldnt agree more, it was very original. Did anybody notice how they burned everything at the end, they must have been really ashamed XD yeah...that looked like penance. I think i would have preferred this style to be more evenly spaced through the show (except for the sticks...grr) if it's a budget issue the grown up thing to do is save a little at a time to make sure the money lasts all the way through. |
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| I liked this episode. as badly animated as this episode is, i think it was a smart move to animate the episode this way instead of using repeated animations, flashbacks, and frame stills. Or even worse, a recap episode. |
| No they gotta be kidding! weird animation ftw!!! I mean it is so weird to see that! But yeah it is original. I have never mind too much animation but this is new! And somehow funny n_n |
| The animation doesn't bother me as much as the constant recaps. Since this series ends rather abruptly, I'll be going on to read the manga. I really loved the first 13 episodes--since then it has fallen a bit. |
Please don't feed the trolls! In my next life I want to collide at the corner with the cute transfer student carrying a piece of toast in her mouth...rodac |
| Was this episode made by Shaft or something? |
| Absolutely hated the way the episode was presented. Crudely draw, barely animated pictures just doesn't work. Something like that is fine for little parts here and there but the entire episode? Give me a break. Getting a new character like that is pretty sad, too. Would have liked him in the shows style instead of drawings colored by crayon. That said what was going on was still great. Still love the characters and their interactions so I lived through the horrible animation. Just really, really hope it isn't done like that again. |
| Meh it was alright I guess. xD |
funkotakuFeb 11, 2012 9:07 PM
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| oh my god what even. Experimental animation gone mad, or something. My eyes hurt. I sincerely hope next one will be back to normal. |
| Oh boy, more Tsubaki problems. |
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FailureDude said: you guys are morons. the animation in this episode is awesome and original. |
| This episode had me laughing harder than any episode so far. I loved everything about it. I loved when the stick dolls ripped through the door. Totally cool Gainax. |
| An innocuous return of the pre- mid 90s Gainax spirit spearing throughout the entire episode (that, or the animators really wanted to do something artistic), helped by the quirkiness of Anno's direction not showing any fatigue. Nonetheless, it was a sign (almost admitting a problem of sorts) that the balance of sympathetic drama and artistic comedy that defined the show will not be the same after the episode is finished. Or, at least, won't be returning at a frequent pace anymore. |
SlightlyDaffyJan 14, 2013 12:10 AM
| "ultimately I want to show a little reality in my works."-Hideaki Anno |
| So they did have sex. Hmm, well was it unprotected? Did he pull out? These are details I need to know. The budget to start was next to nothing... |
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| The art style sure changed a take on real life visuals animated with some fast drawn stuff on paper and then cut out, it was rather unexpected to result to this but well it was funny in a way :p but I do hope this is an one episode only thing as it might get annoying in the long run! The episode it self was pretty random, with them going back to school and she being totally insane again to become first! Also a new character that might be interesting to see in the future story... The relation between those two sure got serious real fast... Lets see what happens next! |
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| jeez who directed this show.. :O Sent with Mal Updater |
( Currently interested in OP MC genre. Recommendations are welcomed, preferable those yet not on my list ) |
| Oh, Gainax... |
FailureDude said: you guys are morons. the animation in this episode is awesome and original. |
| Wow, I was surprised with the weird animation... |
| Sigh, the production values were offputtingly low in this episode. |
| Drastic change in animation... not to mention, the Osts, are belch. Oh, so it's true they apparently 'did it' the other rainy day, because Arima was asking how her body is. |
| The animation is so cheap that it made me laugh |
| Recommend me an anime |
RediceRyan said: So they did have sex. Hmm, well was it unprotected? Did he pull out? These are details I need to know. The budget to start was next to nothing... Yes. they had intercourse. You probably saw the censored version of episode 18. And yes, it was unprotected as Arima asks Miyazawa how "her body is" indirectly implying to ask if she's got her normal period. Then again this is a 2 year old reply.. well it'll help clarify future generations. |
| Well, too bad the animation was gone in this episode.. |
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| The animation wasn't that bad to make me turned off the episode and ran away with a cry of terror. Actually there were some scenes which spoke to me. Definitely something bad (or dunno) going on with Arima. I mean scene when he asked her how's her body. He looked down with sweat drop and then darkness began to absorb him. Plus then - photos of cracked walkway... Wandering what ending was supposed to mean. |
| Those harsh 90's where Gainax runs out of budget at the best shows they make. I mean not only Gainax many other studious too. Considering how difficult it was with the limited technology and low budget they still managed to do something "different". So STFU and continue watching!!! |
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| Certainly creative, but too jarring and frankly made it hard to focus for 20 minutes. I don't mind when they do this sort of thing occasionally, but an entire episode of it got really hard to stomach. It's a shame because this show has had some really fantastic moments, I don't want my clearest memory of this to be how hard the budget got nuked. Also those narrative recaps are getting really annoying now. I do like when they add new info, such as the economic depression. It compliments the (usual) art style's dreariness. But dedicating 2-3 minutes to say "Yukino was a model student. Yukino was just doing it for blah blah. Arima is a model student. Arima has blah blah. They became friends, then a couple, then blah blah." |
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Intereo said: Oh, Gainax... Totally on point. |
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