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| THIS IS A MANGA ONLY DISCUSSION POST. DO NOT DISCUSS ANYTHING BEYOND THIS CHAPTER. ---------------------------------------- awesome chapter.. it seems that this arc isnt that 'generic' build... its just impossible to predict what will happen next... still i hope we will see Big Mum here... and WTF will Caribou will do here.. new Character Den.. looks cool enough =) and a Poneglyph here? o_O that was expected.. though i wonder what will be the message she will decrypt ? cant wait... |
| awesome chapt!! i really wanna see roronoa zoro in piure action. and i am really excited on the next arc already. |
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| I almost forgot about Caribou's existence. It was nice to see Rika again. |
| Can't wait for Luffy to kick his butt :D |
| Gerat chapter, new character (Tom`s brother) a Poneglyph and Vander Decken vs Luffy and another battles in the nexts files, it seems. |
| Nice, all chapters before this were the calm before the storm. This chapter is the chapter that's separating the calm and the storm, so most likely next chapter the real fights start. As for this chapter I can't believe that luffy's plan worked, nobody seems to have noticed the princess. According to what's going on it seems like Luffy Vs. Van der dekken, and Hodi Jones and his mates VS. Zoro and the other SH in ryuugu palace. Also don't u guys find it hilarious how Franky was standing right besides Jimbei without even noticing. About Den he was funny when he said was your ancestor a robot lol. And how Neptune thought of the same idea as luffy. |
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| I'm really getting more and more interested in this arc. Nice to see Tom's brother and Sunny is alright . That King and Luffy think alike xD (Princess in Megalo's mouth) |
| Sorry for my English ^^' If you notice any mistakes, please tell me about it ^^ Thanks for corrections ^^ |
| of all ppl franky could encounter in this place it is his master brother^^ and finally the action starts |
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| I was not expecting to see Tom's brother, although it does make prefect sense, just wasn't expecting it, and nice to finally see some Robin screen time. Hopefully next chapter we get some good action in it, I am assuming Deken vs Luffy and Hodi vs Zoro, but who knows we shall see. |
| i tell you what....luffy seems to have a way with women......its too bad he has no room for a harem or his ship would be full of women. |
| nice build up. i guess hodi jones will fight with zoro? or if there is a villain with swords or something? let's see how luffy will stop that ven decken attack. jinbie is fugitive. didn't know about that. why naptune son's take his message to luffy? i think he had some kind of close relationship with princess mother. big mum is not going to appear in this fight. she's just too strong to face all of them. though lets see where will caribou come from. poneglphy won't be real one just like before.. there are already lots of things.. current arc, top rookies, schibukai, yonko, blackbeared.. i think void century arc will be the last one, that will be the time she will find the real poneglpyh. by the way, who is Rika? Vol 4? is that little girl luffy saved in the beginning, when zoro was captured? if i'm right, then i wonder why she joined marines. baka... |
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| Great chapter, as usual. Also some nice extra information about fish/merman genetics. Looking forward to next week, I hope we're going to see more of Luffy's new attacks. |
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| i don't know why people keep saying "great chapter as usual". to me the moment they dove into the sea became kinda boring. this chapter is better (a little) though. let's hope we'll finally see some fighting next chapter |
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sMug said: i don't know why people keep saying "great chapter as usual". to me the moment they dove into the sea became kinda boring. this chapter is better (a little) though. let's hope we'll finally see some fighting next chapter this :> |
| I find it kind of slow going for now but I think it will pick up very soon (as in next few chapters). |
 I am a man than can make the impossible, possible. |
| I really enjoy this arc so far, I don't find it boring at all, but that's just my opinion. They out-ruled the idea that the princess was taken out of the castle in the sharks mouth, because obviously that couldn't of been what happened ;) I can't wait to see the characters get into a more serious fight. I really want to see their new strength shown against a strong opponent. |
| So now I know how Mr.Krabs has a Whale daughter. Oda is watching Sponge-bob? XD |
sMug said: i don't know why people keep saying "great chapter as usual". to me the moment they dove into the sea became kinda boring. this chapter is better (a little) though. let's hope we'll finally see some fighting next chapter This is not boring as much as Skypia arc. its actually very interesting because there are lots of things related to plot. like a Yonkou Big Mum, What will be the role of Jinbei etc.. and they had to cross Fishland and its normal, mostly every arc is "save the island or peoples in it" from the beginning. so when i compare this to some previous arcs. i'm looking forward to see more of this. Skypia, arc on the skies. what the hell. those were plain 90 chapter fillers and then games arc with that idiot captain more fillers. |
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| yeah.. i'm glad i read onepiece when there was not Skypeia.. Skypeia on a weekly basis would be totally boring.. this one is good.. cause of the new characters and plot development. plus every arc starts slow.. the second half is always mindblowing |
| great chapter. "Did you have a robot for an ancestor" lol |
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smokes said: yeah.. i'm glad i read onepiece when there was not Skypeia.. Skypeia on a weekly basis would be totally boring.. What the hell :P Skypiea is one of my favorite arcs! I thought the whole survival thing was awesome :D But Tom's brother was expected, Franky already said he was gonna visit him. I like this arc. Also keep wondering how Caribou will fit in. I can't wait for the fights. I hope Zoro's not gonna get his ass kicked. |
smokes said: yeah.. i'm glad i read onepiece when there was not Skypeia.. Skypeia on a weekly basis would be totally boring.. yeah. that's the downside of reading manga chapter at a time. if you read a volume at a time you probably would miss a lot of flaws in the manga. |
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| I'm starting to wonder if a fishman who eats a devil fruit can still breathe underwater. |
| finaly something i didn't perdict i was geting tired of that |
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babler said: I'm starting to wonder if a fishman who eats a devil fruit can still breathe underwater. he cant.. did you read teh last chapter? |
| Great stuff, I loved the wat Neptune had the exact same idea as Luffy. I think those 2 would get along just fine. |
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smokes said: babler said: I'm starting to wonder if a fishman who eats a devil fruit can still breathe underwater. he cant.. did you read teh last chapter? It's just that he can't swim. I don't think they mention him not being able to breathe. I reckon he can still breathe just fine. |
| I'm assuming Sanji is going to fight Caribou, it makes more sense when I thought about it. He kidnapped a bunch of beautiful mermaids so it would make prefect sense for Sanji to want to kick his ass. The build up has been going on for a little to long now, would love to see some action. |
| I doubt there's going to be a fight with hodi, remember jinbei's massage? i think luffy meets jinbei in the next chapter. |
Jesuvius said: smokes said: babler said: I'm starting to wonder if a fishman who eats a devil fruit can still breathe underwater. he cant.. did you read teh last chapter? It's just that he can't swim. I don't think they mention him not being able to breathe. I reckon he can still breathe just fine. That would be dumb. If they can still breathe, then they don't need to be scared of the water. They can just walk on the sea floor instead of swimming. I don't really see why they can't swim if they can walk, is it related to gravity or something? Or does the sea water act as poison and they can't move at all? Can't wait for Van Decken vs Luffy. JinBei will probably get in on the action too seeing as he's already at the Sea Forest waiting for Luffy. You know on page 2, how everyone is looking up and they all mention that somethings flying but it's too far away to make out.. that's gotta be Vander Decken on his piece of Coral right? |
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ex0 said: No, that was van de decken, hodi and their gang going to attack ryougu palace.Jesuvius said: smokes said: babler said: I'm starting to wonder if a fishman who eats a devil fruit can still breathe underwater. he cant.. did you read teh last chapter? It's just that he can't swim. I don't think they mention him not being able to breathe. I reckon he can still breathe just fine. That would be dumb. If they can still breathe, then they don't need to be scared of the water. They can just walk on the sea floor instead of swimming. I don't really see why they can't swim if they can walk, is it related to gravity or something? Or does the sea water act as poison and they can't move at all? Can't wait for Van Decken vs Luffy. JinBei will probably get in on the action too seeing as he's already at the Sea Forest waiting for Luffy. You know on page 2, how everyone is looking up and they all mention that somethings flying but it's too far away to make out.. that's gotta be Vander Decken on his piece of Coral right? |
ex0 said: The Devil Fruit's downside is that the Devil Fruit user will just be a "dead weight" in the sea. It doesn't have anything to do with breathing.Jesuvius said: smokes said: babler said: I'm starting to wonder if a fishman who eats a devil fruit can still breathe underwater. he cant.. did you read teh last chapter? It's just that he can't swim. I don't think they mention him not being able to breathe. I reckon he can still breathe just fine. That would be dumb. If they can still breathe, then they don't need to be scared of the water. They can just walk on the sea floor instead of swimming. I don't really see why they can't swim if they can walk, is it related to gravity or something? Or does the sea water act as poison and they can't move at all? Devil Fruits don't have much explanation, so we will be waiting on that :0 |
| I don't know, i expected Zoro to fight that fishman swordsman, i never thought he will find himself face to face with Hodi. I think Zoro now must be given by Oda enough power to fight with someone like Hodi (well at least with out a tone of pills) but the combination isn't something i thought it makes sense. How about a surprise by having Usopp taking care of him? Ok maybe not win but having him delayed with his tricks until something else happens. Or even bigger surprise Nami taking out her anger on pirates with Arlong's mentality. So why is Jinbei not allowed in the island. I thought that it may be because he was now wanted by the government since he betrayed his Shishibukai role and they wanted to avoid trouble but that doesn't fit since they already have protection from an outlaw. Maybe Big Mama doesn't like him. Or could it be that because he was with the government they don't want him anymore? I hope we see some action next chapter. |
| "Do I look like I'm having fun slicing you guys?!" "Yes, you look very energetic in the battlefield!" I lol'd hard at this xD Zoro is so cute <3 And, YESSHU, FINALLY ROBIN APPEAR <333 JIMBEI >:D |
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Ellenna said: "Do I look like I'm having fun slicing you guys?!" "Yes, you look very energetic in the battlefield!" I lol'd too! I love Zoro, he is SO funny <3 can't wait for next chapter, JINBEI!! What I have to say is only that was GREAT chapter, and I'm looking forward for next chapter! |
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| 'Ts about time Robin made an appearance. I guess Franky's gonna help Luffy fight Van der dekken (and Jimbei will probably be there, too.) Looks like it'll be picking up soon. |
| Dear Math, I'm not a therapist. Solve your own problems. Oh, and Algebra? Stop asking us to find your ex, she's NEVER coming back. |
| Van der Decken is definitely my new favourite villain. |
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BlackAssassin said: ex0 said: The Devil Fruit's downside is that the Devil Fruit user will just be a "dead weight" in the sea. It doesn't have anything to do with breathing.Jesuvius said: smokes said: babler said: I'm starting to wonder if a fishman who eats a devil fruit can still breathe underwater. he cant.. did you read teh last chapter? It's just that he can't swim. I don't think they mention him not being able to breathe. I reckon he can still breathe just fine. That would be dumb. If they can still breathe, then they don't need to be scared of the water. They can just walk on the sea floor instead of swimming. I don't really see why they can't swim if they can walk, is it related to gravity or something? Or does the sea water act as poison and they can't move at all? Devil Fruits don't have much explanation, so we will be waiting on that :0 Yeah the way it's been depicted up until now, devil's fruit users can move just a little bit when in water, but not enough to swim or walk, i think the most we ever saw was luffy covering his mouth and nose. I would imagine for decken, if he ended up in the water he'd be paralyzed but still able to breathe, just couldnt go anywhere / do anything. |
Shiken said: BlackAssassin said: ex0 said: The Devil Fruit's downside is that the Devil Fruit user will just be a "dead weight" in the sea. It doesn't have anything to do with breathing.Jesuvius said: smokes said: babler said: I'm starting to wonder if a fishman who eats a devil fruit can still breathe underwater. he cant.. did you read teh last chapter? It's just that he can't swim. I don't think they mention him not being able to breathe. I reckon he can still breathe just fine. That would be dumb. If they can still breathe, then they don't need to be scared of the water. They can just walk on the sea floor instead of swimming. I don't really see why they can't swim if they can walk, is it related to gravity or something? Or does the sea water act as poison and they can't move at all? Devil Fruits don't have much explanation, so we will be waiting on that :0 Yeah the way it's been depicted up until now, devil's fruit users can move just a little bit when in water, but not enough to swim or walk, i think the most we ever saw was luffy covering his mouth and nose. I would imagine for decken, if he ended up in the water he'd be paralyzed but still able to breathe, just couldnt go anywhere / do anything. I don't know about why they can't walk. All i remember is that they've been in deep water, so they naturally panic. But if they(Decken) aren't worried about drowning/dying, then they shouldn't panic and should be able to move/walk. If they can move even a little bit(which they can, since they are normally seen flailing around in the water), then they should be able to walk. I don't see why not, because from what i remember, water doesn't act like poison to them or paralyze them. They are just dead weight(ie they can't float or regulate their depth and will simply sink). I'm pretty sure they should be able to move in water still by walking. Otherwise, you are saying that even if they are in shallow water(like ankle/knee/waist/neck deep), they would get paralyzed and get out of the water? That is pretty laughable and i don't think it's logical or consistent with what we know so far. Otherwise who needs impel down, sea stone chains, or a jail, when a simple barrel of sea/salt water will completely incapacitate even the most powerful devil fruit user? lol |
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ex0 said: Shiken said: BlackAssassin said: ex0 said: The Devil Fruit's downside is that the Devil Fruit user will just be a "dead weight" in the sea. It doesn't have anything to do with breathing.Jesuvius said: smokes said: babler said: I'm starting to wonder if a fishman who eats a devil fruit can still breathe underwater. he cant.. did you read teh last chapter? It's just that he can't swim. I don't think they mention him not being able to breathe. I reckon he can still breathe just fine. That would be dumb. If they can still breathe, then they don't need to be scared of the water. They can just walk on the sea floor instead of swimming. I don't really see why they can't swim if they can walk, is it related to gravity or something? Or does the sea water act as poison and they can't move at all? Devil Fruits don't have much explanation, so we will be waiting on that :0 Yeah the way it's been depicted up until now, devil's fruit users can move just a little bit when in water, but not enough to swim or walk, i think the most we ever saw was luffy covering his mouth and nose. I would imagine for decken, if he ended up in the water he'd be paralyzed but still able to breathe, just couldnt go anywhere / do anything. I don't know about why they can't walk. All i remember is that they've been in deep water, so they naturally panic. But if they(Decken) aren't worried about drowning/dying, then they shouldn't panic and should be able to move/walk. If they can move even a little bit(which they can, since they are normally seen flailing around in the water), then they should be able to walk. I don't see why not, because from what i remember, water doesn't act like poison to them or paralyze them. They are just dead weight(ie they can't float or regulate their depth and will simply sink). I'm pretty sure they should be able to move in water still by walking. Otherwise, you are saying that even if they are in shallow water(like ankle/knee/waist/neck deep), they would get paralyzed and get out of the water? That is pretty laughable and i don't think it's logical or consistent with what we know so far. Otherwise who needs impel down, sea stone chains, or a jail, when a simple barrel of sea/salt water will completely incapacitate even the most powerful devil fruit user? lol I agree. We saw Kalifa sit in the bathtub while fighting Nami at first. She said she didn't lose her powers completely, just that they were around 50% weakened. I don't know if it was because she wasn't completely underwater, but if it wasn't, that explains how Luffy was still able to stretch when he was submerged at Arlong's Park. Seastone negates your power completely, while water makes them sink like hammers and weakens their power. I don't know how much of a hammer they become under water. If enough, it could mean that he couldn't move anymore at all. But I could also see him still being able to move. |
| Tom and his bro don't look alike. LOL "By the way, ere your ancestors a robot?" xD |
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Jesuvius said: ex0 said: Shiken said: BlackAssassin said: ex0 said: The Devil Fruit's downside is that the Devil Fruit user will just be a "dead weight" in the sea. It doesn't have anything to do with breathing.Jesuvius said: smokes said: babler said: I'm starting to wonder if a fishman who eats a devil fruit can still breathe underwater. he cant.. did you read teh last chapter? It's just that he can't swim. I don't think they mention him not being able to breathe. I reckon he can still breathe just fine. That would be dumb. If they can still breathe, then they don't need to be scared of the water. They can just walk on the sea floor instead of swimming. I don't really see why they can't swim if they can walk, is it related to gravity or something? Or does the sea water act as poison and they can't move at all? Devil Fruits don't have much explanation, so we will be waiting on that :0 Yeah the way it's been depicted up until now, devil's fruit users can move just a little bit when in water, but not enough to swim or walk, i think the most we ever saw was luffy covering his mouth and nose. I would imagine for decken, if he ended up in the water he'd be paralyzed but still able to breathe, just couldnt go anywhere / do anything. I don't know about why they can't walk. All i remember is that they've been in deep water, so they naturally panic. But if they(Decken) aren't worried about drowning/dying, then they shouldn't panic and should be able to move/walk. If they can move even a little bit(which they can, since they are normally seen flailing around in the water), then they should be able to walk. I don't see why not, because from what i remember, water doesn't act like poison to them or paralyze them. They are just dead weight(ie they can't float or regulate their depth and will simply sink). I'm pretty sure they should be able to move in water still by walking. Otherwise, you are saying that even if they are in shallow water(like ankle/knee/waist/neck deep), they would get paralyzed and get out of the water? That is pretty laughable and i don't think it's logical or consistent with what we know so far. Otherwise who needs impel down, sea stone chains, or a jail, when a simple barrel of sea/salt water will completely incapacitate even the most powerful devil fruit user? lol I agree. We saw Kalifa sit in the bathtub while fighting Nami at first. She said she didn't lose her powers completely, just that they were around 50% weakened. I don't know if it was because she wasn't completely underwater, but if it wasn't, that explains how Luffy was still able to stretch when he was submerged at Arlong's Park. Seastone negates your power completely, while water makes them sink like hammers and weakens their power. I don't know how much of a hammer they become under water. If enough, it could mean that he couldn't move anymore at all. But I could also see him still being able to move. I thought they said that the salt water saps their energy? Wouldn't that just render them immobile after a while? |
| Dear Math, I'm not a therapist. Solve your own problems. Oh, and Algebra? Stop asking us to find your ex, she's NEVER coming back. |
| I apologize for beginning Quote War 3. |
| Hody and Decken arrived at the palace! |
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| To be completely honest, the amount of dialogue since the time-skip has skyrocketed to irritating levels. |
"At some point, I stopped hoping." |
| Damn! Decken's Mato Mato Curse is quite handy! He can even use that power for transportation! I know Luffy has aggrandized his skill but it's apparent that Decken would be a difficult adversary. |
 She got him back. If you understand the characters well enough, you'd know she did! |
| I just had a thought, how exactly would Decken fulfill the Princess' desires, given the size difference? |
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