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| <strong>THIS IS AN ANIME ONLY DISCUSSION POST. DO NOT DISCUSS THE MANGA BEYOND THIS EPISODE.</strong><br />---------------------------------------- <br /><br />Hm, this was a bit confusing but good nevertheless. I don't think I've fully grasped the meaning of this episode, and I can't really find any relations to the enemy mecha this time =/ . Mako made a few more friends, like she was never able to do before I guess. I don't fully understand what was going on between her and her mother though. But I'm looking forward to more. |
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| Only meaning I could get from it was her thoughts at the end of the battle when she finally realized she never had to force herself to try and be the perfect model kid. Still, this was an episode where I just couldn't help think to myself 'what the hell is going on with this girl'? She was ready to sell herself off but luckily for her that never came to pass. Most interesting thing for me was Kana's plea for Tanaka's help at the end of the episode. It seemed odd to me because I thought their mother was dead so I went back several episodes to double check. In episode 5 Kanji said that her brother's negative feelings were because he blamed Kana for his mother's death. Then a flashback which apparently shows his mother dead after giving birth to Kana is shown. If her brother's mother is really still alive that would make him and Kana half siblings at best if they have the same father. Unless they plan on sneaking the details about Ushiro somewhere in the next episode, it looks like 11 is going to be about Moji. Hopefully the real truth will be revealed soon so we can maybe see why he's always so mad. |
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| tainteddonut more or less wrote what I wanted to say. I'm just gonna add that I think the battle was too rushed out, and that kinda shocked me that Mako was willing to sell her body like that. Weird episode. |
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| The entire episode felt rushed, but it was my favorite thus far. Mako was definitely an interesting character and it's sad that I didn't get to see more of her. Interesting... flashy costumes, flash enemy! I wonder if those costumes will have anything to do with order of death. Here's my take on this. It seemed to me that Mako wanted to understand her mother. She always sort of brushed off the teasing from her classmates and tried to be a good girl. She says herself that she was always that way. There's no doubt that Miko loved her daughter very much and vice-versa. She made a relatively honest living for herself in order to raise her daughter. Mako didn't know what it was that she did, but she was working at nights. She had her suspicions, but for the most part she didn't to let it get to her. Instead, she tried to earn a little extra by doing needlework and sewing. I guess with her being next to pilot Zearth, she wanted to know for sure about her mother's life. She cried tears of joy in the bar with her mother embracing her after discovering the truth. In Zearth, I think she felt peace of mind and was gracious for her mother and all that she had done. She could pass on a lot easier and she did it with the same feelings that her mother lived the last 10 years of her life. I just can help but feel sorry for Miko, since she had done so much to raise a daughter. And a reliable and responsible one at that. It's sad to see such a good human being go. This is tormenting for me, but in a different way from previous episodes. Also, Kana is so cut when she spoke to Tanaka-san on the phone. Sounds like a bit of a twist here with the implications of Kana and her brother having different mothers. Next episode... my favorite male character is next! Ah, man. |
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| Good post mild_even, makes sense to me. |
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cyruz said: Good post mild_even, makes sense to me. I read my post just now... sound like I pulled that from *insert words*. It made sense to me at the time I wrote it... but now... Need to get back into the feeling of the episode, I guess. |
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| Lol, no I think there could be some true bits in it, and I wasn't only talking about your speculations. :) |
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| Those are some good points, mild_even...I was kinda thinking along those same lines. I thought this was, overall, the weakest episode so far. I think (if given the time, of course) it would have been better as a two-parter, but oh well :) Somehow, I get the feeling that the second half of this show is gonna be awesome.. |
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| I liked this episode quite a bit, at least in the relationship between Mako and her mother. At first it felt like the way it was set up that they'd have a sour relationship like with some of the other characters or she wouldn't be there for her but it seemed to be quite the opposite, which was immensely gratifying for me. Another character that I'm sad to see go, along with Daichi. |
| I didn't like this one as much as others but it was still very good. It seems like all of the children are driven to act out the impulses that they've been shoving down their whole lives. The twist at the end is pretty interesting as well. Although I've never done it before, I would love to cosplay in one of those uniforms. |
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| This ep wasn't as great as the ones before but it was good anyhow. |
| This ep wasn't as great as the ones before but it was good anyhow. |
| The girl was kind of conflicted. On one hand he actually loved her mother on the other she felt a little embarrassed of her and didn't know if she should hate her for forcing her to go through all that. Her attempt to be perfect was in a way an act of disprove of her mother because she wanted to be the opposite of her mother. she just didn't know how do feel about her mother and that's why she decided with death coming near her to do the same thing as her to try and understand her. In the end she realized that even though her mother wasn't exactly the perfect convenient type of mother, she was still admirable and a great woman in her own way. You don't have to be perfect to societies standards to be a great person. With little words, haters gonna hate. In the end although the girl was sympathetic she had a weak presence. The one i felt more sorry about was her mother. Seeing how much she loved and fought for her daughter it's so cruel that she lost her. |
| I don't know why, but this was the episode that made me cry. ;_; Mako pretty much blended in with the background for the episodes so far, but turns out, she never had any friends. And to think she was secretly making uniforms for the rest of the kids too...probably the only people she could have called friends. She wanted to complete them so bad she was willing to sell her body... In the end however, she was happy with herself. Just imagining her mom finding out about what happened though, is heartbreaking. ;_; |
| Find me a customer - WHAT THE HELL AM I WATCHING? O_o |
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| What rubbish. A 7th grader decides to sell her body, and people seem to be okay with it. Yeah you know, whatever, if a 12 year old wants to become a prostitute, it's perfectly alright, right guys?...gaiz?!? If it weren't for the slightly intriguing plot, I would've dropped this long ago. |
| she's such a nice mom...*´O｀* |
| I don't know what would be a realistic way for a 13 year old girl to act in this situation |
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| I cried when Mako cried :( This episode felt rushed, especially the robot fight... but the story behind was heartbreaking for me... It's like, Mako knew she was going to die, so in her last moments she wanted to find out the truth she had never been able to outcome... and what she finally found out is that her mother really loved her, and made sacrifices for her. Then she had to die :(... |
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| Another great episode, some nice backstory and a look at how she would live her last day! Plus that ending sure gives off an interesting topic for the next episode so let's see what's next! |
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| Maybe a connection between the enemy of this episode and the pilot could be that the enemy mecha had a weird big codpiece, and a spike on its head (that could be phallic symbols)? It also had big 'muscular' arms, so it looked kinda 'manly'. Maybe it has something to do with Mako's mother selling her body. |
NagitoKomaeda08 said: Hitchens said: What rubbish. A 7th grader decides to sell her body, and people seem to be okay with it. Yeah you know, whatever, if a 12 year old wants to become a prostitute, it's perfectly alright, right guys?...gaiz?!? If it weren't for the slightly intriguing plot, I would've dropped this long ago. I totally agree with you. I dropped this show after this episode. It was really interesting to watch cuz' of realistic problems of kids. But THIS is fucking bullshit. Nobody was agreeing with that. The boss introduced her on purpose to the ex-boyfriend to make her understand that despite the "wrong" things her mother could have done in the past, she was a strong woman that has always done her things by herself and was respected for it. Or am I the only one that understood it this way? |
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| this is one of those few time where an anime made go like holly shit dude, this is gonna get ugly i probably shouldnt see this... thankfully the anime didnt went that way an it was just the boss arranging a meeting between her, the mother an a former ex lover so Mako d finally put her worries about her mother to rest strangely though i actually felt more for the mother than Mako, knowing that she did everything for her an yet she was gonna die either way |
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| How old are these characters because I thought they were a bit younger. I mean who in their right mind would agree to a small child's request for prostitution. However regardless, this anime has been a wild ride so far. I can't say it is my favorite but what a mix of characters. How come not one of the children have normal families so far? |
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Suzune-chan said: How old are these characters because I thought they were a bit younger. I mean who in their right mind would agree to a small child's request for prostitution. However regardless, this anime has been a wild ride so far. I can't say it is my favorite but what a mix of characters. How come not one of the children have normal families so far? They are actually as young as 13 which makes the whole show kinda ridiculous. Even though lot of these kids are kids of high ranking people they still seem way too mature for 13 years old. It would have made lot more sense if they were at least 15 years old. And it was all a ploy by the way. The guy didn't nor was suppose to tap her. |
Suzune-chan said: How old are these characters because I thought they were a bit younger. I mean who in their right mind would agree to a small child's request for prostitution. However regardless, this anime has been a wild ride so far. I can't say it is my favorite but what a mix of characters. How come not one of the children have normal families so far? You really don't understand what happened? Oh God, it was rather simple (but still shocking). That guy never want to find her 'real customer', he knew that guy and arranged that meeting. For what purpose? To show her, how her mother did a mistake in past. Btw, is it really that weird for all of you that girls in her age are selling their bodies? It's not uncommon or something. Of course this is a real problem, and probably this is the reason why they showed it in this anime. Anyway I'm glad that her mother's boss was a nice guy and didn't found her a real customer (I really felt relived, even if I knew that she will die soon) , like I said earlier. |
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| Dub = fake crap. Always. |
| I really don't get how people can even think the guy actually arranged a meeting for her to sell her body. I mean, what else does the anime need to make it clear that's not the case? A narrator explaining every single thing in the series? On a completely different note... is it just me or Mako (especially with that uniform) looks VERY similar to Erin's mom from Kemono no Souja Erin? (I know she doesn't actually have green hair, but it sure looks like it when they're in the mecha). |
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| I don't get it...she finds out her mom sold her body and crys, but then since she doesn't work redlight/fuck people anymore its okay because these guys 'love' her? she already knew her mom wasnt doing it anymore and still wanted to whore herself out, dont know why these pervs wanting to buy her love makes it ok. |
| i like the focus on characters compared to the fights - refreshing - though who was that main character, can't remember her having done anything specificcally before. and also girls and prostitution - anymore of this to come or what. |
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Lorezhno said: I don't think it was her job that made her proud, but her choice to change her job and also not rely on someone else to take of her. Mako selling herself was to try and understand her mother better; could also be that she wanted to hurt her mother as she was bullied for the choices her mother made, but I don't think Mako was that kind of person. That's an interesting take on it, but I agree, I don't think it was with the intention of hurting her mother. But I didn't really think about the pride aspect of changing her life and being independent. Thanks for the feed back. |
| Really bad direction and writing here. Young girl is trying to sell herself for no reason. Then she makes really shitty uniforms for 4 people and everyone seem to love them. And then she fights and dies and we didn't even see it. Like WTF, you have 24 episodes and you are still rushing some arcs? |
| Man, Zearth really got such a ragtag bunch of kids, huh. |
| So far, this has been very weird. Very formulaic. Someone mentioned how each ep is so far the same. Introduce child as pilot, show backstory, they change, they die. next ep. Several of these episodes are fine. But, like i told someone, fuck their names. I didnt even know this girl was named mako throughout the ep. They are given enough time to establish their own story but not enough for me to recognize/remember their faces and names. Her story was fine but like, really? She opts to get a customer so she can get money to buy materials to make uniforms? Like, good on the boss for setting up a fake meetup with someone trustworthy. And you can argue that teenage girls sell themselves irl and that she is like 13 so she doesnt know better but it felt so off with her resorting to doing this in the show. And the fight? I get it, the show wants to focus more on character and less on the fight aspect and thats fine. But like, the fight felt very short and resolved way too fast. They are fighting a robot who can punch and cuz of Zearths long reach, it can effectively hit the enemy. So mako is like "I need to change as well." and somehow cuts off a portion of the arms of Zearth so that it can effectively fight and the fight is over. It just felt rather disappointing i guess. Well, on to the next ep. |
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| Seems like none of the adults had any real desire to prostitute Mako then, and/or they were trying to get her to understand her mother better. She learned that trying to emulate her mother's past just for self satisfaction isn't neccessarily the best route to take. Definitely one of the more nuanced stories for the pilots. |
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| I guess the last episode was the last normal episode. What is wrong with these kids?? Out of all the things she can do she goes and tries to imitate what her mother did in the past At least the adults in this episode were responsible and showed her that her mom was well respected among her customers. |
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