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Do You Love Your Mom and Her Two-Hit Multi-Target Attacks? (light novel)
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Aug 4, 2019 12:09 AM
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Well, the episode began directly with how Wise entered the game and indeed Wise's mother did not think about how to have bond as a mother and daughter, but I also believe that Wise never gave her mother the opportunity to try.

Wise's mother is also a sage like her daughter, besides having a grimoire that makes her an OP mother, but apparently she also obtained an object that allows her to cheat.

Shirase activating the BanHammer was hilarious.

So Wise also offended her mother and this made them both distance themselves, something to expect, especially because of Wise's bad relationship with her mother before going to the game, but I think Wise's mother went too far when she said that she should never have given birth to Wise and then she attacks her daughter without mercy.

Listening to Masato admit he is an asshole for being rude to his mother was so satisfying, I hope that after this experience he will start treating Mamako better.

Wise's mother really cheated to get into the game, if she thinks the children are a hindrance, why did she try to get along better with Wise? I really don't understand her, but I do know that the offensive words of the witch of the night angered Mamako and she tries her best to defeat Wise's mother.
The battle between OP mothers was awesome, both were matched in power, but one of them didn't have Porter and her items.
It still amazes me that Wise saved her mother, at least I can see that one of them has honest feelings and the feelings of Wise reached her mother's heart.

How cute was when Porter wanted to join the high five of the victory with Mamako and Masato. That reconciliation left much to be desired, at least Wise's mother will stop giving problems to her daughter.

Oh no, someone fell in love with the classic dense and stupid MC, poor Wise, she would have a hard and difficult journey if she wants Masato to feel the same as her, besides having Wise doing those adorable pouting face will be fun.
Aug 4, 2019 2:38 AM

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BANHAMMER! Lol! That was really a powerful spell that Shirase casted. Anyway, this was still a fun episode despite it's seriousness.
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Aug 4, 2019 8:34 AM

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Shinuki_n_Reborn said:
Jesus ChristJesus Christ, i need to stop checking the thread for this anime, it's like people here are just dead inside and unable to enjoy simple things, people here just want to hate this anime for the sake of it without presenting any actual reason, treating like it's something bizarre or even offensive when it's actually not only super funny, not taking itself much seriously but it also have some really good and heartwarming moments like in this episode with Mamako, sad to see what this place is becoming lately, the "MySaltList".

And doesn't even bother to quote me because i will not come back to the thread, bye.
Same here man. these people just hate it because lack of action and ecchi. this anime rarely use cliches and self aware which is why the cliche scene rarely happen. this anime is pretty enjoyable as a hater of cliches scenario.

though i have to say, the downside of this anime adaptation are too rush. the LN plot are more deeper than the anime and I think JC screw this anime pretty much. but again, It's still enjoyable, it just became too disappoint if you read the LN and saw the Anime later..
Aug 4, 2019 9:23 AM

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GOD I FUCKING WISH THIS WAS 12 MINS INSTEAD OF 24. the concept is good but I don't think I can't watch this without putting 2x speed. and what the hell is happening in that fight. where did porter get that magic sealing? last episode? what the fuuck. I don't correlate with the story and pacing at all. I do have a good relationship with my parents but damn they pointing to all spoiled brats lmao
Aug 4, 2019 11:11 AM

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No fanservice? Sad.
Aug 4, 2019 1:57 PM

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Hazmatt17 said:
I made a gif of the best part.



I laughed my head off at that bit :)
Aug 4, 2019 2:00 PM

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LoganMcClure21 said:
Shinuki_n_Reborn said:
Jesus ChristJesus Christ, i need to stop checking the thread for this anime, it's like people here are just dead inside and unable to enjoy simple things, people here just want to hate this anime for the sake of it without presenting any actual reason, treating like it's something bizarre or even offensive when it's actually not only super funny, not taking itself much seriously but it also have some really good and heartwarming moments like in this episode with Mamako, sad to see what this place is becoming lately, the "MySaltList".

And doesn't even bother to quote me because i will not come back to the thread, bye.


If you don’t see this that’s fine I just wanna say that I’m stuck in the same boat and I wish people would enjoy this series and appreciate what this story actually is instead of Milf this and Milf that

Don't worry,your not alone.
After binge-watching the first 4 eps of this,I was pleasantly surprised at how much I liked it,and laughed.
I wasn't expecting much tbh,but watching this made my week,and I'm looking forward to the next episode.It just gave me a real feel-good vibe :)
Aug 4, 2019 5:17 PM

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Porter does good once again. MC did the skyward slash. Mom did damn near everything. Wise... kind of made up with her mom I think, guess there are parents who fight with their kids like that, but what I'm happiest about is that MC and his Mom got some real bonding this episode.
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Aug 5, 2019 12:00 AM

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This episode seems ok without any cheesy fanservice, but the execution of comedy and serious part is lacking cause they failed to make a good first impression and build up from ep 1 with too much cheese and unintelligent scene.

remove the cheese and fanservice shit, this show will be saved.

*dab on fanservice seeker guy*

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Aug 5, 2019 1:09 AM

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zeus-faber said:
Ok, I gave it a shot but now I have to drop it...straight into the dumpster
this and quite a few others this season. Fuck wises mom too, no way in hell would I forgive her and if it was a dad wasting money at the strip club.and said that stuff to his daughter I guarantee the bitches wouldn't be so forgiving.
Aug 5, 2019 1:13 AM

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This MC just needs to go full Hentai and turnt this shit up wit some MILF LOLI MONSTER tags.....and Shirase already acts like she's had the MIND BREAK tag applied, ho is crazy
Aug 5, 2019 10:25 PM
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This is the episode that caused me the least discomfort. If all the episodes were that quiet, but no, I am sure that after this, the next episode will start ecchi things between mother and son, again. Got damn!.

After all, Wise's mother was white, why did she change her appearance? LOL.

Could it be that Wise is in love with the protagonist? Hahaha.
Aug 6, 2019 1:09 AM

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This completes the 1st light novel, story wise.

Overall a decent episode. Wise's mom looks different than I imagined but it was otherwise pretty faithful to the source material. This episode was ugh, so wholesome.
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Aug 6, 2019 9:26 AM
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I get why some dont like this but I on the other hand love it! Its so damn silly. Ban Hammer laid down and "quests" from the GM had me loling. Shirase and the remove the stake before reviving... rookie gamer mistake lmao As a parent, I have been there where your kids say mean things like they hate you but I am more like Masato's mom (I think most moms are too). I can relate to some of the relationship issues presented and imagine for non parents its probably just weird. Just my thoughts.
Aug 6, 2019 10:56 AM

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Mamako is too op even for that over powered cheat using milf. Her personality and way of thinking was messed up but gd to see she learnt the importance of family and children at the end.
Aug 6, 2019 10:57 AM

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Okay, I'm done. Dropping this. I tried to push through this one because I hate dropping anime, but this trash is too much for me to handle. Fuck this shit I'm out.
Aug 6, 2019 11:07 PM

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JessicaAFM said:
I get why some dont like this but I on the other hand love it! Its so damn silly. Ban Hammer laid down and "quests" from the GM had me loling. Shirase and the remove the stake before reviving... rookie gamer mistake lmao As a parent, I have been there where your kids say mean things like they hate you but I am more like Masato's mom (I think most moms are too). I can relate to some of the relationship issues presented and imagine for non parents its probably just weird. Just my thoughts.

I feel the hate is undeserved. The series is cute and gets its message across rather well. People are taking it too seriously.
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Aug 7, 2019 3:30 AM

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Ok so they 'made up' if that's what you call that.... So they cleared the game and the mom left.

But despite the game being about fixing your mommy issues, she is allowed to stay because stupid male protagonist needs a love interest.

Now she will help the two who clearly had a better relationship than her and her own mom but for some reason have not met the clear conditions?

But I guess they are just beta testers now?




Hmm I may end up dropping this. I was ready to drop it the second their motherly relationship went to far but I may just drop it for being boring and cheesy at this rate xD.
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Aug 7, 2019 10:24 AM

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Lmao so many italian words translated into non existent words, it was funny I guess, the translators tried their best to understand

Anyway, best episode so far, I’m finding myself to enjoy this series more than expected
Aug 7, 2019 2:52 PM

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Collins89 said:
zeus-faber said:
Ok, I gave it a shot but now I have to drop it...straight into the dumpster
this and quite a few others this season. Fuck wises mom too, no way in hell would I forgive her and if it was a dad wasting money at the strip club.and said that stuff to his daughter I guarantee the bitches wouldn't be so forgiving.



Yeah, she's really something, talking trash and attacking her own daugther. It's ridiculous. But other than that it's a pretty fucking generic show and even tho im retarded for isekai it's boring as fuck
Aug 7, 2019 4:59 PM

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This series is suffering with bipolar executions. For the first 3 episodes; we've been over saturated with mostly forced, unrealistic and excessive fan service. I thought I was watching a different series because it suddenly felt entirely foreign. Does this anime change directors or writers every 3 episodes?
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Aug 12, 2019 12:38 AM

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zeus-faber said:
Collins89 said:
this and quite a few others this season. Fuck wises mom too, no way in hell would I forgive her and if it was a dad wasting money at the strip club.and said that stuff to his daughter I guarantee the bitches wouldn't be so forgiving.



Yeah, she's really something, talking trash and attacking her own daugther. It's ridiculous. But other than that it's a pretty fucking generic show and even tho im retarded for isekai it's boring as fuck

Hahaha "retarded for isekai" I see your a man of culture! Love that, same here major mongoloid isekai fan, but this is shit I put on to fall asleep.
Aug 13, 2019 10:18 AM

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Wise's mom is a massive cunt beyond repair. She doesn't deserve any redemption after what she said and did to Wise. It's her fault Wise was mad at her in the first place (reasonably so) and she still tried to play the victim. She reminds me of people who do some bullshit and then get mad when you don't accept their apology. What a fucking bitch.

I don't know if it was more frustrating that she had the nerve to blame someone else or that Wise actually felt like she was in the wrong at all.
Aug 16, 2019 4:48 AM

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I like this show in general, but the Wise episodes with her mom just didn't do anything for me. I much prefer this show when it's silly and over-the-top. Also doesn't help that Wise's mom is so terrible.

Can we just get Mamako and son going dungeon exploring, taking down monsters, and shenanigans?
Aug 22, 2019 7:17 PM

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Wise's mother is Ara Ara. Still, Nice to see Wise make up with her.

Still, I didn't know you can still "continue" to play the game even after you have cleared the game's "Main Objective". Then again, this is pretty much endgame for Wise.

Also who was Wise's Mother Seiyuu? For some reason I heard of her before. She sounds similar to Hikasa, Yoko.

Shirase is the best character as usual! Even lol'd how she died again in the tree branch for not removing it before revival XD.
Nov 3, 2019 1:46 PM
Shirase's eye beams lmao

The battle was very boring.
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Nov 14, 2019 3:50 AM

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wise and her mother 😂

i can see why they fight cause they are 2much alike minu the habbit of...

wise tells she satys and mc's mother says could it be, yes mother u hit the nail she started to like ur son romantically
Nov 14, 2019 3:55 AM

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Collins89 said:
zeus-faber said:



Yeah, she's really something, talking trash and attacking her own daugther. It's ridiculous. But other than that it's a pretty fucking generic show and even tho im retarded for isekai it's boring as fuck

Hahaha "retarded for isekai" I see your a man of culture! Love that, same here major mongoloid isekai fan, but this is shit I put on to fall asleep.


this how hurt ppl sometimes act u hurt them with words and they do same back at u so when it comes to ingame fight both are equally quilty
Nov 30, 2019 8:56 PM

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Boring as boring......
Jan 31, 2020 8:14 AM

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I love this series already. <3 So many tearjerking moments. Or maybe I'm just sensitive and emotional these days that's why some parts from the series hit me so hard. :'(
Mar 29, 2020 4:32 AM

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Damn things went a bit dark there with Wise mom, she really doesn't act her age I can see why wise gets so fed up with her behaviour

Apr 15, 2020 8:03 PM

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A lot about Wise and her mother this episode. At least character development is being incorporated, even if sloppily. Still doesn't change the shitty quality of the anime though.
Sep 15, 2020 7:43 AM
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Shinuki_n_Reborn said:
Jesus ChristJesus Christ, i need to stop checking the thread for this anime, it's like people here are just dead inside and unable to enjoy simple things, people here just want to hate this anime for the sake of it without presenting any actual reason, treating like it's something bizarre or even offensive when it's actually not only super funny, not taking itself much seriously but it also have some really good and heartwarming moments like in this episode with Mamako, sad to see what this place is becoming lately, the "MySaltList".

And doesn't even bother to quote me because i will not come back to the thread, bye.
Same here man. these people just hate it because lack of action and ecchi. this anime rarely use cliches and self aware which is why the cliche scene rarely happen. this anime is pretty enjoyable as a hater of cliches scenario.

though i have to say, the downside of this anime adaptation are too rush. the LN plot are more deeper than the anime and I think JC screw this anime pretty much. but again, It's still enjoyable, it just became too disappoint if you read the LN and saw the Anime later..


blame aniplex and kadokawa they're the one who gave JC the required number of episodes that they should work with.
Sep 2, 2021 7:57 AM

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Well Shirase is definitely best girl and I doubt the last party member will change that.
Oct 8, 2021 12:11 AM

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This is getting more ridiculous than ever but I can't blame It though so yeah this might be the usual in this series, Wise's mom is a weird one better stay away from her.
Jul 19, 2022 11:34 PM
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Now i understand why Most of the Japanese Parents wish that they didn't have kids. the way Wise's mom treated to her son might gonna go straight down to 20 floors of hell. let them tortures her and the monsters will saying to her that: "I wish that i didn't creating you, you piece of b*tch!"
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Jul 19, 2022 11:39 PM
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Collins89 said:
zeus-faber said:
Ok, I gave it a shot but now I have to drop it...straight into the dumpster
this and quite a few others this season. Fuck wises mom too, no way in hell would I forgive her and if it was a dad wasting money at the strip club.and said that stuff to his daughter I guarantee the bitches wouldn't be so forgiving.


yeah i found out that Japanese population is shrinking fast because of wise mom treated too
absolute embarasing the whole Japanese Anime shit
Aug 29, 2022 12:29 PM
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This show has its cute and heartwarming moments, but the erupting lava erections in this episode were too much!




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How does having invincible magic or cheat tools give a player administrative-level privileges or immunity to account deletion? How is that even possible without server-side access?
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Shocked said:
How does having invincible magic or cheat tools give a player administrative-level privileges or immunity to account deletion? How is that even possible without server-side access?
Idk man, I thought the part of them getting sucked into the game itself was a little bit more unrealistic.

but... since it seemed like she was getting access to these cheats from an outside party, the person supplying her with the cheats probably is probably someone with direct access to the servers.
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Still nothing.

Jul 5, 2024 2:08 PM

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This is supposed to be 'wholesome'?

Are people just objectively incapable of identifying a toxic relationship?

The tiny bits of wholesome is being forced so heavily and even then its deluged by the extreme amounts of abuse, both physically and mentally.


It's just straight up gaslighting by the author for them to present this much information and try to pretend this is all fine.
Absolutely toxic, and Shirase's quite hilarious comedy is a bad crutch for the dangerous and frankly terrible message the show is sending.

I'm just going to 1/10 and drop it here.
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