Japan's Weekly Blu-ray and DVD Rankings for Apr 23 - 29
Rank / This week's sales by copies / Cumulative sales / Titles
Blu-ray
*1. 30,814 30,814 Love Live! Sunshine!! 2nd Season Vol.5 Special Limited Edition
*2. *8,691 *8,691 IDOLiSH7 Vol.3 Special Limited Edition
*3. *8,369 *8,369 The iDOLM@STER SideM Vol.5 Limited Edition
*4. *8,067 *8,067 Sora yori mo Tooi Basho Vol.2
*5. *5,338 *5,338 Overlord II Vol.1
*6. *5,202 *5,202 Darling in the FranXX Vol.1 Limited Edition
*7. *3,403 *3,403 Hakumei to Mikochi Blu-ray BOX First Volume
*8. *3,271 *3,271 Osomatsu-san 2nd Season Vol.5
*9. *2,437 *2,437 Kino no Tabi: The Beautiful World - The Animated Series Last Volume Limited Edition
10. *2,190 *2,190 STEINS;GATE Complete Blu-ray BOX Standard Edition
11. *2,115 *2,115 Bobobo-bo Bo-bobo Kanzen Ougi Blu-ray BOX Limited Edition
12. *1,990 *1,990 Ryuuou no Oshigoto! Vol.2 Limited Edition
13. *1,955 *1,955 Full Metal Panic! Director's Cut Dai-3-bu: Into the Blue Limited Edition
14. *1,722 *1,722 Blend S Vol.5 Limited Edition
15. *1,490 *1,490 Just Because! Vol.5 Limited Edition
16. *1,475 *1,475 Itsudatte Bokura no Koi wa 10 cm Datta. Last Volume Limited Edition
17. *1,429 *1,429 Gintama.: Porori-hen Vol.4 Limited Edition
18. *1,376 *1,376 Death March kara Hajimaru Isekai Kyousoukyoku Vol.2
19. *1,292 *1,292 3-gatsu no Lion Vol.6 Limited Edition
20. *1,282 *1,282 Slow Start Vol.2 Limited Edition
(cut-off 1,282)
DVD
*1. *5,608 **5,608 IDOLiSH7 Vol.3 Special Limited Edition
*2. *2,907 **2,907 Osomatsu-san 2nd Season Vol.5
*3. *1,994 **1,994 The iDOLM@STER SideM Vol.5 Limited Edition
*4. *1,703 **1,703 Itsudatte Bokura no Koi wa 10 cm Datta. Last Volume Limited Edition
*5. *1,369 **1,369 Gintama.: Porori-hen Vol.4 Limited Edition
*6. **,876 ***,876 Nanatsu no Taizai: Imashime no Fukkatsu Vol.1 Limited Edition
*7. **,770 ***,770 Gakuen Babysitters 2 Vol.2
*8. **,740 ***,740 Overlord II Vol.1
*9. **,719 **3,374 Uchiage Hanabi, Shita kara Miru ka? Yoko kara Miru ka? Regular Edition
10. **,711 *18,843 Mary to Majo no Hana Regular Edition
11. **,710 ***,710 Darling in the FranXX Vol.1 Limited Edition
12. **,650 ***,650 Hakumei to Mikochi Blu-ray BOX First Volume
13. **,585 ***,585 Sora yori mo Tooi Basho Vol.2
14. **,484 ***,484 Juuni Taisen Director's Cut Vol.4
15. **,458 *27,542 Granblue Fantasy The Animation Vol.7 Limited Edition
16. **,446 ***,446 Blend S Vol.5 Limited Edition
17. **,431 **4,196 Zoku Touken Ranbu: Hanamaru Vol.2
18. **,420 ***,420 Hakyuu Houshin Engi Vol.2 Limited Edition
19. **,418 **4,010 Free!: Take Your Marks Regular Edition
20. **,402 121,030 Tonari no Totoro
21. **,393 ***,393 Hakata Tonkotsu Ramens Vol.1 Limited Edition
22. **,379 ***,379 Code:Realize - Sousei no Himegimi Vol.5
(cut-off 379)
Source: Oricon Youtaiju
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Happy for yorimoi sales, but another season or a movie are almost impossible due to how it ended so yay I guess?
That's what I hope, really. I think it ended on a perfect note. We could have some specials, maybe an OVA, but I really don't want a full sequel. Though I trust the team who produced it, especially the writer and the director, I fear another story done wrong could potentially screw up what has become one of my favorite and most inspiring anime.
May 3, 2018 8:22 AM by vini64
I just thinking, how many BD/DVD sales of Darling in the FranXX if they remove those "Limited Edition"? xDDDD
I just thinking, how many BD/DVD sales of Darling in the FranXX if they remove those "Limited Edition"? xDDDD
There is only "Limited edition" http://www.cdjapan.co.jp/series/5123?term.shop=anime
There is no "regular edition" if that's what you are thinking
May 2, 2018 10:25 PM by Cybertron
May 2, 2018 2:49 PM by Huyan
Just because something is popular online doesn't mean people are gonna spend money on overpriced anime BDs.
Also, these memes you speak of are mainly made by western fans who, much like the opinions of ANN's reviewers, mean nothing when we're talking about Japanese sales numbers.
And according to Japanese sales numbers Franxxs sales are nothing to gawk about. I guess the loud and vocal fanbase was just a minority.
Nobody exactly boasted about the sales being extremely big tbh. In all fairness, the sales for Darli-Fra are at the very least decent for the first week or so. It's not so bad, but it's nowhere near to the point where the show marketing wise failed. It's in the middle.
May 2, 2018 10:47 AM by removed-user
ye but it does not matter since legal online streaming rights is where the new profit today comes from and Discs (BD/DVD) sales are declining for years now
Why do people keep spouting this shit when there's literal no proof that the revenue made through streaming is even enough to sustain an animes profitability outside Japan? Its all worthless speculation made by people trying to justify their show underperforming. I also love people who go on about BD/DVD sales declining when last year had two original anime sell over 100k in BD sales one of which was a TV series now how does Franxx compare with? Its nit even the best selling original anime of the season either.
Darling in the FranXX manga has 400k copies in print!!
https://www.reddit.com/r/DarlingInTheFranxx/comments/8g7ure/darling_in_the_franxx_manga_has_400k_copies_in/
That is literally not impressive at all.
May 2, 2018 8:12 AM by IVRBRK
And according to Japanese sales numbers Franxxs sales are nothing to gawk about. I guess the loud and vocal fanbase was just a minority.
Nothing to gawk about, sure. But definitely nothing to deride either. I'd say these sales are at least decent. And let's not forget that this is only the first week's worth of sales we're talking about. I prefer not to make any judgements until at least week 2.
Full disclosure: I know nothing of Darli-Fra other than some basement dwellers got triggered by a certain episode, and I'd like it to remain that way.
May 2, 2018 4:26 AM by DoubleMangekyo
@shanimebib Wow, is this taking into account idols or not? I've heard that such an anime is very popular on the tumbler for "some" reasons.... but I do not know how much these shows are popular in the west in general.
Note that idol anime fans/fujoshi fandom are more active in their own dedicated fansites and they don't usually frequent more prominent sites where they have fans of all sorts of anime. For an example, IDOLiSH7 from last season had 1/20th of followers of Violet Evergarden, the most followed anime from last season in anikore, yet it sold way, way more than VE managed for volume 1.
In conclusion, disc sales are not the measure of popularity, nor the quality but one of the many indicators, albeit the main one that conveys the measure of how successful the anime had been from economical standpoint. There could be more people following an anime but they could be more casual followers than hardcore fans who would buy 2-3 copies of each and practically all of them doing the same whereas only a small segment of casual viewers only willing to spend money on anime that they only watch for fun and don't think their life depended on how much it sold in the market.
Well, in my country idols are no more popular than another popular slice of life with moe girls. At least I often see a yuri fanart with Love Live, than an art with a real yuri, lol. But it was never so popular as any hyped shonen or seinen. So I was pretty surprised when one of the Russian sites reported that the sales of Love Live is higher than any hyped show.
May 1, 2018 10:35 PM by RobertBobert
@shanimebib Wow, is this taking into account idols or not? I've heard that such an anime is very popular on the tumbler for "some" reasons.... but I do not know how much these shows are popular in the west in general.
Note that idol anime fans/fujoshi fandom are more active in their own dedicated fansites and they don't usually frequent more prominent sites where they have fans of all sorts of anime. For an example, IDOLiSH7 from last season had 1/20th of followers of Violet Evergarden, the most followed anime from last season in anikore, yet it sold way, way more than VE managed for volume 1.
In conclusion, disc sales are not the measure of popularity, nor the quality but one of the many indicators, albeit the main one that conveys the measure of how successful the anime had been from economical standpoint. There could be more people following an anime but they could be more casual followers than hardcore fans who would buy 2-3 copies of each and practically all of them doing the same whereas only a small segment of casual viewers only willing to spend money on anime that they only watch for fun and don't think their life depended on how much it sold in the market.
May 1, 2018 10:18 PM by shanimebib
May 1, 2018 9:41 PM by RobertBobert
Regardless, no one is saying Darli-fra took the roof off with the numbers. It's still higher than stalkers' earlier predictions and if you think 5.9K isn't pretty good, you are in complete denial. Also, bringing about discussion of a couple of anime originals don't help. We know that there are occasional spikes in 2-3 anime out of say 120+ anime that gets released every year which are usually idol based or marketed towards fujoshi fandom and not necessarily mean they are excellent shows.
@RobertBobert: It's nothing new. For the record, it happened only once in the last 5 years (20 seasons) since I started tracking japanese sites (anikore, 2ch etc.) vs. non-japanese/western sites (MAL, animesuki etc.) that the most revered top three new anime of the season (sora yori, violet evergarden, yuru camp) were the same in both places AND backed by sales numbers. It's that rare.
May 1, 2018 9:32 PM by shanimebib
But that's what surprises me the most, this is when the show becomes memetic, but sales are still low. For example, ANN called "Koi wa Ameagari no You ni" one of the five best shows of the winter season, and Bland S is still remembered with jokes about "S", but both shows only barely approached to 2k.
Just because something is popular online doesn't mean people are gonna spend money on overpriced anime BDs.
Also, these memes you speak of are mainly made by western fans who, much like the opinions of ANN's reviewers, mean nothing when we're talking about Japanese sales numbers.
Well, I understand this and I heard that this has already happened with LWA, 91 days and Flip Flappers, but I'm still surprised by the difference between the Japanese and American audiences.
May 1, 2018 9:26 PM by RobertBobert
ye but it does not matter since legal online streaming rights is where the new profit today comes from and Discs (BD/DVD) sales are declining for years now
Why do people keep spouting this shit when there's literal no proof that the revenue made through streaming is even enough to sustain an animes profitability outside Japan? Its all worthless speculation made by people trying to justify their show underperforming. I also love people who go on about BD/DVD sales declining when last year had two original anime sell over 100k in BD sales one of which was a TV series.
well, let's take a look at data aren't we...
The most active movements in the animation business in 2016 would be video distribution and Chinese power. In terms of video distribution, Netflix and Amazon Prime Video, the two U.S. platforms proactive toward Japanese animations, stood out.
The platform made efforts to gain popularity by distributing some animation programs ahead of their TV broadcast; however, there is no doubt its strongest appeal was the free distribution service. It is worth keeping an eye on whether or not Abema TV becomes a threat to existing pay distribution services in Japan.
Another topic in 2017 was Chinese power. It was just three to four years ago when China began a shopping spree for Japanese animations for Chinese major platforms. In 2016, some Chinese companies started investing in Japanese animation production committees; furthermore, they began outsourcing animation production for their own IP projects to Japanese studios. Since 2015, the Chinese government has lifted a ban on Japanese theatrical animations, which also had economic spillover effects, boosting overseas sales of Japanese animation.
Regarding China, an increasing demand for Japanese animations whose distribution officially started on a full scale in China pushed up license fees in the market. Under such circumstances, some of the Chinese Internet distributors participated in production as investors in order to secure the license in China.
The size of the animation videogram market in 2016 was 78.3 billion yen, decreasing for three consecutive years, by 15.1% from the previous year. Actually, many of the industry participants mentioned the market slowdown in recent years, as confirmed by the data here indicating that the animation videograms market has reached a big turning point. How the other media take the videogram market now on a full‐scale slump is an urgent issue for the industry.
The size of the Japanese merchandising market related to animation characters shrunk to ¥562.7 billion, which was 97.1% of its size in the previous year. This was because digital products (especially application games) were not included in the data. Actually, the overall market size (i.e. the revenues of animation studios) increased significantly. Surely consumers are losing their appetites for real products along with the shift to digital products. From now on, it is essential for character merchandising businesses to build a new business scheme incorporating digital products.
In terms of types of contract, contracts for broadcasting rights were still major while contract in connection with internet distributin rights increased dramatically. New business models, including collaborations with Chinese companies as well as global distribution platforms, also grew, however, the Japanese animation industry should be reinforced as to not turn into nothing but a commissioned factory for those partners.
further read
http://aja.gr.jp/english/japan-anime-data
while western streaming service profit probably doesn't cover, the rise of internet distribution as well digital product is not a small matter anymore... the problem is outdated japanese model make animation studio simply as commissioned factory for production comitee which most internet distribution money went.... it also showing big decreasing on physical sales including BD/DVD...
another source
https://www.animenewsnetwork.com/news/2018-02-27/dvd-bd-sales-drop-10-percent-in-japan-in-2017/.128325
darlinh the franxx it self however while not a big success, also not a failure... and the standard of BD sales is getting lower significanly... while internet distribution profit is on the rise....
None of that information take into account of how much is going back to Japan versus how much is being made. Using information such as "streaming licenses have increased signficantly since 2013" is irrelevant because streaming was no where near as big as it is now. Its why you never see actual stream revenue reports from Japan via Oricon because its virtually worthless in comparison to BD/DVDs where the hard numbers can be applied. Using any stream numbers to prove that Franxx is doing well is dumb because CR, iqyp, Funi aren't spart of the production committee in the same way CR was for citrus or Amazon Prime werw fir Kabaneri.
surprise, there is also no BD ranking... oricon is only tracking physical sales who willing to report thier sales, not ranked it... it does't even count something kyoani store, or square enix own store, not even count online shop like amazon... the one get ranked previously is TV broadcasting.... recently however there is torne ranking recorded by SONY showing how many people watch anime in their online platform from SONY platform alone...
May 1, 2018 8:57 PM by Kuma
None of that information take into account of how much is going back to Japan versus how much is being made. Using information such as "streaming licenses have increased signficantly since 2013" is irrelevant because streaming was no where near as big as it is now. Its why you never see actual stream revenue reports from Japan via Oricon because its virtually worthless in comparison to BD/DVDs where the hard numbers can be applied. Using any stream numbers to prove that Franxx is doing well is dumb because CR, iqyp, Funi aren't spart of the production committee in the same way CR was for citrus or Amazon Prime werw fir Kabaneri.
look before you call it dumb provide counter sources to those things then im willing to learn
and this sums it up nicely
The report also broke down growth and decline by segments. The movie, Internet distribution - streaming i guess, music, overseas - majority is about streaming license i guess, and live entertainment segments all saw growth, while the television, videogram - discs like BD/DVD, merchandising, and pachinko segments all saw a decrease.
https://www.animenewsnetwork.com/news/2018-04-30/anime-industry-report-shows-continued-growth-in-overseas-market/.130302
May 1, 2018 8:29 PM by deg
May 1, 2018 8:20 PM by -Mahesvara
May 1, 2018 6:15 PM by Devil_Food
streaming licensing today is already giving a break-even profit for the anime industry since an average cost of anime episode is 150,000-200,000 US dollars
License costs are also on the rise with increasing competition among video streaming sites. For example, The Wall Street Journal estimates that one episode of Gintama sells for approximately US$100,000.
https://myanimelist.net/news/50761193
Let's take account of what we already know: First, we know that license fees have been absolutely out of control for the last few years. Bidding wars between Funimation and Crunchyroll, as well as occasional violent disruption from Amazon, Hulu and Netflix have pushed the fees for some shows well over the US$200,000 per episode mark -- $2.6 Million for a 13-episode show. Sales, while healthy, have not gone up anywhere near that much, and this was clearly not sustainable for anime publishers.
http://www.animenewsnetwork.com/answerman/2016-09-09/.106251
DVD/BD Sales Drop 10% in Japan in 2017
https://www.animenewsnetwork.com/news/2018-02-27/dvd-bd-sales-drop-10-percent-in-japan-in-2017/.128325
However, the report noted that "the industry felt little benefit though the growth" because it was mostly attributable to the overseas market. While Japan does feel benefit from the overseas market growth, that benefit is not as direct, and is less than the benefit felt from domestic market growth, since most overseas sales go to licensing management companies.
The report stated the domestic market has stagnated, growing only 3.8% from 2013, which the report claimed is due to "unsuccessful transition" from existing channels such as television to up-and-coming channels such as internet streaming and live events.
Meanwhile, the overseas market has grown 171.9% since 2013 to reach a record high in 2016, rising from 282.3 billion yen (about US$2.631 billion) in 2013 to 767.6 billion yen (about US$7.154 billion) in 2016.
https://www.animenewsnetwork.com/news/2018-04-30/anime-industry-report-shows-continued-growth-in-overseas-market/.130302
if you have news sources that will debunk the following i will be glad to read it and change my mind
May 1, 2018 6:02 PM by deg
But that's what surprises me the most, this is when the show becomes memetic, but sales are still low. For example, ANN called "Koi wa Ameagari no You ni" one of the five best shows of the winter season, and Bland S is still remembered with jokes about "S", but both shows only barely approached to 2k.
Just because something is popular online doesn't mean people are gonna spend money on overpriced anime BDs.
Also, these memes you speak of are mainly made by western fans who, much like the opinions of ANN's reviewers, mean nothing when we're talking about Japanese sales numbers.
And according to Japanese sales numbers Franxxs sales are nothing to gawk about. I guess the loud and vocal fanbase was just a minority.
May 1, 2018 5:25 PM by Devil_Food
Guilty Crown 10042
Aldnoah Zero 8293
Valvrave 7625
Kabaneri 6880
DITF 5912
So Franxx is the lowest selling mecha anime from Aniplex thus far. Since its 2-cour it'll definitely average between 3k to 4k by the end of its run.
ye but it does not matter since legal online streaming rights is where the new profit today comes from and Discs (BD/DVD) sales are declining for years now
Why do people keep spouting this shit when there's literal no proof that the revenue made through streaming is even enough to sustain an animes profitability outside Japan? Its all worthless speculation made by people trying to justify their show underperforming. I also love people who go on about BD/DVD sales declining when last year had two original anime sell over 100k in BD sales one of which was a TV series now how does Franxx compare with? Its nit even the best selling original anime of the season either.
Darling in the FranXX manga has 400k copies in print!!
https://www.reddit.com/r/DarlingInTheFranxx/comments/8g7ure/darling_in_the_franxx_manga_has_400k_copies_in/
That is literally not impressive at all.
May 1, 2018 5:23 PM by Devil_Food
But that's what surprises me the most, this is when the show becomes memetic, but sales are still low. For example, ANN called "Koi wa Ameagari no You ni" one of the five best shows of the winter season, and Bland S is still remembered with jokes about "S", but both shows only barely approached to 2k.
Just because something is popular online doesn't mean people are gonna spend money on overpriced anime BDs.
Also, these memes you speak of are mainly made by western fans who, much like the opinions of ANN's reviewers, mean nothing when we're talking about Japanese sales numbers.
May 1, 2018 2:54 PM by DoubleMangekyo
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