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FUNimation to continue streaming Fractale

by Prizkilla
Jan 24, 2011 9:31 AM | 45 Comments
According to FUNimation they announced that they will continue streaming the anime serie Fractale
Read why Fractale was removed Here.
Episode 2 will be streamed today at 10:45 a.m CST and a new episode will be shown each Thursday as usual.

Source: FUNimation's blog

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Sabinlerose said:
uiosi said:
Well for me streaming donsen't come as option from any provider as for country code... And streaming 310p is pointles if you have fansub providing 720p cristal clear picture. Not to mention if you have bad internet line as me you cant stream at all or you wait 2 h to preload wich is not streaming it's dl and watching later with nouncense of keeping brovser up for no reson. Long live fansubs. Or provider that finaly realises we don't want to hang on streaming solutions.

If your internet is that bad, how can you justify downloading?
Downloading a file would be a lot larger and take longer.
Never understood that excuse at all.
Some people's connections have horrible spikes meaning the stream would start and stop over and over and over. I know this because my old ISP was like that and whenever I was watching streams I would just let the stream load and then watch it all so it would not stop mid-way.

While yes that's not really an excuse to snub the stream it does makes you think, if you already have to wait a download time to see it, why not just download a better version? The advantage of streaming is the ability to see it instantly, once that advantage is removed there's no advantage over permanent downloads that you will actually have.

I might also add, maybe I just have my settings wrong but whenever I try to watch 720p video on streams like youtube's the video downloads horribly slow, much slower than a 720p video file would download truly.

Feb 16, 2011 6:39 PM by Leon-Gun

Sabinlerose said:
uiosi said:
Well for me streaming donsen't come as option from any provider as for country code... And streaming 310p is pointles if you have fansub providing 720p cristal clear picture. Not to mention if you have bad internet line as me you cant stream at all or you wait 2 h to preload wich is not streaming it's dl and watching later with nouncense of keeping brovser up for no reson. Long live fansubs. Or provider that finaly realises we don't want to hang on streaming solutions.

If your internet is that bad, how can you justify downloading?
Downloading a file would be a lot larger and take longer.
Never understood that excuse at all.

When you stream, you can only watch it once, and you have to watch it right away. When you DL, you can DL a day or two in advance (or a week, whatever) and then watch at your leisure. DLing usually gives better picture\sound, also. It's a fairly legitimate excuse, at least in terms of internet connectivity.

Also, he can't stream the anime he wants to see in his country, so he probably lives outside North America. If the anime he wants isn't even for sale in his country, then he can't possibly hurt the industry by DLing.

That said, when the option is available, I do recommend streaming from the distributor's site. Only way I know of that directly supports the industry without spending a penny.

Feb 16, 2011 9:55 AM by Paladin65536

uiosi said:
Well for me streaming donsen't come as option from any provider as for country code... And streaming 310p is pointles if you have fansub providing 720p cristal clear picture. Not to mention if you have bad internet line as me you cant stream at all or you wait 2 h to preload wich is not streaming it's dl and watching later with nouncense of keeping brovser up for no reson. Long live fansubs. Or provider that finaly realises we don't want to hang on streaming solutions.

If your internet is that bad, how can you justify downloading?
Downloading a file would be a lot larger and take longer.
Never understood that excuse at all.

Feb 16, 2011 7:56 AM by Sabinlerose

Well for me streaming donsen't come as option from any provider as for country code... And streaming 310p is pointles if you have fansub providing 720p cristal clear picture. Not to mention if you have bad internet line as me you cant stream at all or you wait 2 h to preload wich is not streaming it's dl and watching later with nouncense of keeping brovser up for no reson. Long live fansubs. Or provider that finaly realises we don't want to hang on streaming solutions.

Feb 16, 2011 1:53 AM by uiosi

In other news:

http://www.japanator.com/funimation-suing-1337-people-over-one-piece-481-18346.phtml

Funi now has my support.
Essentially a hundred bucks each.
A very very fair number.

Remember remember the 25th of january. The day Funi fought 1337 pirates over a show about pirates.

Jan 26, 2011 12:21 AM by Sabinlerose

Like I said, Funimation do love their noitaminA!

Jan 25, 2011 11:47 PM by Alipio

zansabarshadow said:
thank goodness. i do not want to watch fansubs for this show


That's a first.

Jan 25, 2011 5:48 PM by AzureHakua

LOL @ all the people who bitched about it being taken down.

Jan 25, 2011 1:09 PM by Soundtrack

If the legal alternative was even half as high quality as the fansubs then I might consider it but

Fansubs
-Often HD, High quality encodes
-Often professional timing, typesetting and solid translations
-Downloadable mp4/mkv/avi files allowing you to enjoy the episode on your own terms

Legal Streams
-Often low quality FLVs with low resolution
-Usually bad typesetting, literal translations and too much americanised language
-Slow, region locked streams which you have to load every time you want to watch

If the legal alternative was a HD download service with subbing of an equal (or even NEARLY equal) quality as fansub groups then I would be in heaven. It's not even about "Fansubs are free" any more. I would gladly pay a subscription fee or an episode-by-episode cost if they could legally distribute good quality subs of the shows.

Fansubbing has been around for so long it's like an industry in itself in terms of standards and professional levels of production. And its run by fans. Fans who work for nothing. If a corporation cannot hire people to produce something of an equal quality, then they are not providing a service at a satisfactory level in my opinion. As I say, if it was even half as good as a fansub I would consider it but as it stands there is no way for me to Support the anime industry without runing my own enjoyment of the anime itself other than buying DVDs.

I wish I could go and tell all this directly to someone who would listen and could make a difference like some higher-up at Funimation or a british equivalent. :p

Jan 25, 2011 8:15 AM by CL3

Paladin65536 said:

There are various legal reasons they don'tcan't do anything about fansubbers. It's not unusual for a fansubbing group to have people from multiple continents, let alone countries, who work off and on on the same projects together. Identifying them each personally, as well as defining what extent they had in the subbing, is very difficult. After that, you've still got the question of seeders, if it's released via torrent. Can they be prosecuted or not? Would it be worth it? Even after figuring out everything else, they really can't legally pursue them as a whole, as there's always another loophole in cases this complicated which keeps them apart (legally,) and trying them individually would cost a ridiculous amount of money, not to mention the subbers might have to be deported to Japan for that to happen.
I see, so it's not just about finding their websites, torrents, file sharing services links, IRC channels/bots etc. Why do they even bother trying to fight it then? If indeed, they aren't simply trying to bluff and intimidate...

Paladin65536 said:
I mean, there's just too much to do, too much money to spend, and there's no way, even at the most pessimistic, that piracy can negatively effect an anime so badly that it'd be worth it.
Haha, definitely. Especially in this case.

Jan 25, 2011 6:46 AM by iSee

Paladin65536 said:


There are various legal reasons they don'tcan't do anything about fansubbers. It's not unusual for a fansubbing group to have people from multiple continents, let alone countries, who work off and on on the same projects together. Identifying them each personally, as well as defining what extent they had in the subbing, is very difficult. After that, you've still got the question of seeders, if it's released via torrent. Can they be prosecuted or not? Would it be worth it? Even after figuring out everything else, they really can't legally pursue them as a whole, as there's always another loophole in cases this complicated which keeps them apart (legally,) and trying them individually would cost a ridiculous amount of money, not to mention the subbers might have to be deported to Japan for that to happen.

I mean, there's just too much to do, too much money to spend, and there's no way, even at the most pessimistic, that piracy can negatively effect an anime so badly that it'd be worth it.
Those are all good points on why this is such a hard business to take down. Most fansubbers who actually relent when given C&D letters ussually do it to keep a bit of moral high ground. "We will sub until they tell us to stop" basically. Others just go further into hiding and digging them out, let alone taking them to court, is not easy at all. Even going against the sites that distribute the torrents themselves is no easy thing. A lot of countries have lax or no laws over Internet distribution.

All in all you can certainly see why the music industry decided to just throw random lawsuits at people caught downloading music. All they could do was try to scare people, it's an almost impossible task to take down piracy entirely.

Jan 24, 2011 9:20 PM by Leon-Gun

WHAT WAS THE POINT?!?! Now all you have done is sent fans to UTW's sub of it instead of a legit release. In what world is this good PR?

Jan 24, 2011 9:11 PM by mitamaking

Lol. Nice work Funi for pulling that statement outta your ass seriously they haven't done anything

Jan 24, 2011 8:35 PM by FatherAnderson

It's hard to get rid of fansubbers, coz they're on the border line. Even a torrent site or fansubbing site, it takes time and money to close them down... the show will then be finished airing by then lol...

A company loses money from piracy... but they lose even more fighting against piracy.

Jan 24, 2011 8:31 PM by togeyanagi

llxwarbirdxll said:
ios said:
good news for them, the Japanese should consider the internet as a way to promote their anime, because the more people know their anime the more potential buyers of their products, and i say taking advantage of the internet's streaming capability is a good start for the Japanese studio's to infiltrate world wide audience, next consideration for them is to make a CrunchyRoll like site
http://neojaponisme.com/2009/05/19/the-fear-of-the-internet/

Also, it doesn't help that someone in Japan already launched a service that allows people to pay whatever they want for complete (digital) volumes of Love Hina and didn't make anything from it.


lol never thought Japanese are so paranoid about the internet, well their lost if they dont take advantage of the internet

Jan 24, 2011 7:17 PM by isekai

Anything for a hype eh?

*continues to download cause streaming is bad for the eyes*

Jan 24, 2011 6:39 PM by panda_general

Why are they so full of shit?

Jan 24, 2011 5:50 PM by Detective

Jog said:
Well i like funimation because they have a lot of good animes for free, subbed on youtube. =]


I like fan subbers because they have a lot of good anime for free, in HD, with better translations and not streamshit.

Jan 24, 2011 5:10 PM by Thillygooth

Well i like funimation because they have a lot of good animes for free, subbed on youtube. =]

Jan 24, 2011 4:22 PM by Cordelia

Warden said:
people say it was just a PR move

but am i the only one who was interested in fractale prior to this whole fiasco and am now so utterly disgusted that i don't plan to watch it at all now?

i mean it seems to me that something like this alienate viewers rather than draws viewers

or am i just smarter than the average anime fan
If you're specifically talking about the FUNimation part, "disgust" seems a bit extreme. The whole thing was rather silly, but I don't see how it got anything more than a "lol, whatever" out of anybody. Now if Yamakan's raving is your problem, I agree. I can't imagine someone like that sincerely trying to spread around messages about human warmth and whatnot.

Jan 24, 2011 3:43 PM by Nyuu3

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