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Dec 3, 2024 6:36 PM
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A new Kidou Senshi Gundam (Mobile Suit Gundam) television anime, subtitled GQuuuuuuX, was announced at the Gundam Conference Winter 2024 on Wednesday. The anime series is being produced by animation studios Khara and Sunrise. The television anime will air on Nippon Television Network. A re-edited version of select episodes will open in 373 theaters nationwide under the title Kidou Senshi Gundam: GQuuuuuuX - Beginning (Mobile Suit Gundam: GQuuuuuuX - Beginning) on January 17, 2025. Cast Amate Yuzuriha: Tomoyo Kurosawa (Houseki no Kuni) Nyaan: Yui Ishikawa (Violet Evergarden) Shuuji Itou: Shinba Tsuchiya (Ballroom e Youkoso) Staff Director: Kazuya Tsurumaki (FLCL) Series Composition: Youji Enokido (Shoujo Kakumei Utena) Script: Youji Enokido, Hideaki Anno (Shinseiki Evangelion) Original Character Design: Take (Katanagatari) Original Mechanical Design: Ikuto Yamashita (Top wo Nerae! Gunbuster) Character Design, Chief Character Animation Director: Yumi Ikeda (Nakitai Watashi wa Neko wo Kaburu), Shie Kobori (SSSS.Dynazenon animation director) Mechanical Design, Chief Mechanical Animation Director: Se-jun Kim (Mobile Suit Gundam: Twilight Axis) Design Works: Toshiaki Ihara (A.I.C.O. Incarnation), Mahiro Maeda (Evangelion Movie 2: Ha), Shingo Abe (Koukyoushihen Eureka Seven Hi-Evolution main animator), Hidenori Matsubara (Kono Sekai no Katasumi ni character design), Takuya Io (Kidou Senshi Gundam SEED Freedom mechanical design), Shuuichi Iseki (Ryuu no Haisha character design), Takeshi Takakura (Shoujo☆Kageki Revue Starlight mechanical design), E o Kaku PETER (Wonder Egg Priority), Ami, mebae (C: The Money of Soul and Possibility Control character design), Kou Inaba (Kidou Senshi Gundam: Suisei no Majo mechanical design), Shinya Mizuno, Yuusuke Oomura (Pokemon Diamond & Pearl original character design), Yutaka Izubuchi (RahXephon director), Tomoko Masuda (Nihon Animator Mihonichi), Junbun Lin (Kidou Senshi Gundam: Suisei no Majo concept art), Hideaki Anno, Kazuya Tsurumaki Art Design: Hiroshi Katou (Totonyan) (Mars Red) Concept Art: Hajime Ueda (Bakemonogatari ending animation) Storyboard: Kazuya Tsurumaki, Hideaki Anno, Mahiro Maeda, Touko Yatabe (Chainsaw Man) Episode Director: Kazuya Tsurumaki, Daizen Komatsuda (Bubuki Buranki director), Touko Yatabe Character Animation Director: Hidenori Matsubara, Mayumi Nakamura (Sono Bisque Doll wa Koi wo Suru chief animation director), Shuuichi Iseki Mechanical Animation Director: Shingo Abe, Gen Asano (SSSS.Dynazenon) Detail Works: Toshiaki Ihara, Tatsuya Tanaka (Sakasama no Patema design works), Mahiro Maeda Animation Check: Yasuhito Murata (Panty & Stocking with Garterbelt) Digital Animation Check: Mayuko Kanosue (Studio Eight Colors) (Suzume no Tojimari 2nd key animation), Ayaka Miura (Re:Creators in-between animation), Emi Nakano (Koi wa Sekai Seifuku no Ato de) Color Design: Akiko Inoue (Wish) (Kyoukai Senki) Color Setting, Color Check: Kushima Sayako (Wish) (Mob Psycho 100 III), Hiromi Okamoto (Wish) (Mahoutsukai no Yome) Special Effects: Shin Inoie (Majo no Tabitabi) Art Director: Hiroshi Katou (Totonyan) (Uchuu Kyoudai) Assistant Art Director: Chihiro Gotou (Totonyan) (Shadows House art director) CGI Director: Takashi Suzuki (Ryuu no Haisha) CGI Animation Director: Iwasato Masanori (Evangelion Shito, Hakata Shuurai director), Shiguma Morimoto (Ginga Eiyuu Densetsu: Die Neue These CG director) CGI Modeling Director: Wakatsuki Shintarou (Ochibi-san character modeling), Kusudo Ryousuke CGI Technical Director: Kumagai Shunsuke (Nihon Animator Mihonichi 3DCG) CGI Art Director: Hiroyasu Kobayashi (Promare CG director) Graphic Design Director: Zama Kayoko (]Shin Evangelion Movie: CG director) Visual Development Director: Yosuke Chiai (Darling in the FranXX opening sequence visual design) Director of Photography: Tomoyuki Shiokawa (T2 studio) (Undead Girl Murder Farce) Photography Advisor: Fukushi Susumu (T2 studio) (Osomatsu-san director of photography) Special Effects Director: Hiroaki Yabe (Inou-Battle wa Nichijou-kei no Naka de director of photography) Look Development: Nanae Hirabayashi (Sora no Otoshimono director of photography), Youko Miki (Kimi no Na wa. color design) Editing: Emi Tsujita (Ryuu no Haisha) Music: Yoshimasa Terui (Jujutsu Kaisen), Masayuki Hasuo (Bloodivores ending theme composition) Sound Director: Haru Yamada (Sound Team Don Juan) (Metallic Rouge) Sound Effects: Naoto Yamatani (Sound Box) (No Guns Life) Main Producer: Yuuki Sugitani (Shin Evangelion Movie: animation producer) Executive Producer: Naohiro Ogata (Gundam Breaker: Battlogue) Producer: Kasai Keisuke (Kidou Senshi Gundam: Senkou no Hathaway assistant production manager) Production Desk, Setting Production: Hayato Tanaka (Dantalian no Shoka assistant director) Digital Production Desk: Fujiwara Kouhei (Shin Evangelion Movie: assistant production manager) Distribution: TOHO, Bandai Namco Filmworks Publicity: Bandai Namco Filmworks, Shochiku, Studio Khara, Nippon Television Network, TOHO Production: Bandai Namco Filmworks Synopsis Amate Yuzuriha is a high-school student living peacefully in a space colony floating in outer space. When she meets a war refugee named Nyaan, Amate is drawn into the illegal mobile suit dueling sport known as Clan Battle. Under the entry name "Machu," she throws herself into fierce battle day after day, piloting the GQuuuuuuX. Then an unidentified Gundam mobile suit pursued by both the space force and the police appears before her, along with its pilot, a boy named Shuji. Now their world is about to enter a new era. (Source: Official site) Announcement Official site: https://www.gundam.info/feature/gquuuuuux/ Official X: @G_GQuuuuuuX Source: Gundam.info, animate Times Kidou Senshi Gundam: GQuuuuuuX on MAL |
VindstotDec 3, 2024 7:35 PM
Dec 3, 2024 6:40 PM
#2
diebuster gainax style gundam seeing the main staff are all former gainax crew |
Dec 3, 2024 6:57 PM
#3
What makes me laugh is how the potential attempt to reboot G-Witch after heavy damage control ended up actually being a fulfillment of many people's fantasy of what Anno and Gainax's Gundam could have looked like. It seems this time we'll have a strong influence from EVA, Gunbuster and FLCL instead of Utena and Izetta the Last Witch. Although I've also often seen people calling it the AU version of Builf Fighters due to the tropes and approach to the universe. Looking back at the announcement of their work on the Macross Anniversary, it seems Sunrise has really decided to focus on working with new brands or bringing other big names in these years. |
Dec 3, 2024 8:09 PM
#4
The cockroaches at Khara ruining every mecha show I like is awful |
Dec 3, 2024 8:30 PM
#5
Reply to RobertBobert
What makes me laugh is how the potential attempt to reboot G-Witch after heavy damage control ended up actually being a fulfillment of many people's fantasy of what Anno and Gainax's Gundam could have looked like. It seems this time we'll have a strong influence from EVA, Gunbuster and FLCL instead of Utena and Izetta the Last Witch. Although I've also often seen people calling it the AU version of Builf Fighters due to the tropes and approach to the universe.
Looking back at the announcement of their work on the Macross Anniversary, it seems Sunrise has really decided to focus on working with new brands or bringing other big names in these years.
Looking back at the announcement of their work on the Macross Anniversary, it seems Sunrise has really decided to focus on working with new brands or bringing other big names in these years.
Yep lol, I don’t think I’m gonna watch this honestly. @RobertBobert I can’t say much since I didn’t watch G-Witch. What did they want to achieve through that show? Does it have any meaningful message or something? |
Dec 3, 2024 8:32 PM
#6
Uhh what daheck is this name Anyway so tomoyo and ishikawa and who knows what daheck Im not very optimistic about this though Aside from that. So when daheck is this actually airing |
Dec 3, 2024 8:51 PM
#7
Reply to Gear707
Yep lol, I don’t think I’m gonna watch this honestly.
@RobertBobert I can’t say much since I didn’t watch G-Witch. What did they want to achieve through that show? Does it have any meaningful message or something?
@RobertBobert I can’t say much since I didn’t watch G-Witch. What did they want to achieve through that show? Does it have any meaningful message or something?
@Gear707 In theory, they wanted to reveal something like a typical earthlings vs people from outer space. But it ended up being a complete mess due to the rushed final part, the poor execution of many of the themes, and the conceptual ambiguity of a show that didn't seem to know what it wanted to be. For example, they could resolve an arc that lasted 3-4 episodes in one short scene, or devote the entire finale to a threat that had never been mentioned before for two seasons. Almost like the ending of the Oshi no Ko manga, although Aka certainly went far ahead. |
Dec 3, 2024 9:27 PM
#8
This collab is about 20 years too late but if Tomino is hands-off maybe it'll be okay. Tbh though all I'm expecting is |
Dec 3, 2024 11:40 PM
#9
No opinion on the news, but I just want to say... that is truly a terrible name. Is this name supposed to mean something for gundam fans? It looks like you read it "GEE-coo-acks"? Which is not at all obvious from the English spelling. Why not just name it "GQX"? And it's easy to guess how most English-speakers will read this title, trying to be funny... |
Dec 3, 2024 11:49 PM
#10
Reply to perseii
No opinion on the news, but I just want to say... that is truly a terrible name. Is this name supposed to mean something for gundam fans?
It looks like you read it "GEE-coo-acks"? Which is not at all obvious from the English spelling. Why not just name it "GQX"?
And it's easy to guess how most English-speakers will read this title, trying to be funny...
It looks like you read it "GEE-coo-acks"? Which is not at all obvious from the English spelling. Why not just name it "GQX"?
And it's easy to guess how most English-speakers will read this title, trying to be funny...
@perseii g-cucks there will be romantic ntr |
Dec 4, 2024 12:21 AM
#11
More Gundam and this time with Khara/Gainaxx. Excited for this. The KV with the new Gundam looks cool and different from the usual gundams. Also female protag again. |
Dec 4, 2024 12:54 AM
#12
This is staff that can reliably output an original anime unlike G-Witch. |
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Dec 4, 2024 3:16 AM
#13
Character designs look like Trigger's Gridman. Too colorful & cartoonish. |
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Dec 4, 2024 5:26 AM
#14
They're getting less and less good at writing interesting male characters, and now they're forking over female characters (to appeal to the otaku lambda) in every sauce? |
Dec 4, 2024 6:00 AM
#15
Reply to perseii
No opinion on the news, but I just want to say... that is truly a terrible name. Is this name supposed to mean something for gundam fans?
It looks like you read it "GEE-coo-acks"? Which is not at all obvious from the English spelling. Why not just name it "GQX"?
And it's easy to guess how most English-speakers will read this title, trying to be funny...
It looks like you read it "GEE-coo-acks"? Which is not at all obvious from the English spelling. Why not just name it "GQX"?
And it's easy to guess how most English-speakers will read this title, trying to be funny...
@perseii It's pronounced "Gee-Quacks" apparently. Has the romaji below the title. This looks like it's going to be G-Gundam 2.0 but Tatsumaki and Enokido instead of Imagawa, which honestly may not be a bad thing. Certainly better than Utena-at-home with mecha that was G-Witch. |
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Dec 4, 2024 7:19 AM
#16
RobertBobert said: the potential attempt to reboot G-Witch after heavy damage control This is not a thing... |
Dec 4, 2024 9:36 AM
#17
i loved g witch and i like the character designs here but the mech action looks too cg for my taste so don't know if i'll check this one out. anno is also a potential red flag after the rebuilds. guess i'll see what people are saying when it's out. |
Dec 4, 2024 10:31 AM
#18
Reply to Fail_Man_X
RobertBobert said:
the potential attempt to reboot G-Witch after heavy damage control
the potential attempt to reboot G-Witch after heavy damage control
This is not a thing...
@Fail_Man_X This show literally screams "we decided to try to make G-Witch again, but now with your complaints and suggestions in mind", lmao. @IzayoiSk I don't want to speculate about their intentions, but judging by the way the local female and male lead is presented, you can literally tell that they are again trying to attract a youth and female audience. All these moe-ish trigger like girls and bishonen looking boys... However, although I had the same thoughts about G-Witch, it turned out that the design was the last thing the show used to connect with its desired target audience. @Genoard Yeah. This does feel like a very Trigger-Gainax anime at first glance. @betaweeb You didn't like the rebuilds, but liked G-Witch? |
Dec 4, 2024 10:48 AM
#19
Boy, that sure was a short lived interest. It only lasted from reading the news title until the first sentence of the synopsis. It's quite amazing how so few words can make a show that offputing. It would be nice to have Khara and Sunrise make a mecha anime but not with school kids and awful character design. Female lead looks especially atrocious. Speaking of mecha and Sunrise. What the hell happened to Macross? Did Delta kill this franchise? Shame, F was great. |
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Dec 4, 2024 11:30 AM
#20
RobertBobert said: This show literally screams "we decided to try to make G-Witch again, but now with your complaints and suggestions in mind", lmao. It doesn't, though. This show is not a reboot of Witch. The same way SEED is not a reboot of 0079, and 00 is not a reboot of Wing. Antanaru said: Boy, that sure was a short lived interest. It only lasted from reading the news title until the first sentence of the synopsis. You realize "______ is a high-school student living peacefully in a space colony floating in outer space." is how 0079, SEED, and Unicorn begin, right? If not more? Most Gundams have school aged protagonists :/ |
Dec 4, 2024 11:35 AM
#21
Reply to Fail_Man_X
RobertBobert said:
This show literally screams "we decided to try to make G-Witch again, but now with your complaints and suggestions in mind", lmao.
This show literally screams "we decided to try to make G-Witch again, but now with your complaints and suggestions in mind", lmao.
It doesn't, though. This show is not a reboot of Witch. The same way SEED is not a reboot of 0079, and 00 is not a reboot of Wing.
Antanaru said:
Boy, that sure was a short lived interest. It only lasted from reading the news title until the first sentence of the synopsis.
Boy, that sure was a short lived interest. It only lasted from reading the news title until the first sentence of the synopsis.
You realize "______ is a high-school student living peacefully in a space colony floating in outer space." is how 0079, SEED, and Unicorn begin, right? If not more? Most Gundams have school aged protagonists :/
@Fail_Man_X Do you really have to be so ultra-serious and try to unironically argue with obviously half-joking comments? And yes, even though Amuro or Kira were teenagers, their shows never hyper-focused on the school theme, only using their age to appeal to a younger audience instead of turning the shows into high school mecha. @Antanaru The anniversary Macross from them is still in development. But I haven't seen any information until now. |
Dec 4, 2024 11:48 AM
#22
Nobody asked but in 0:02 the word χαρα (or χαρά to be more precise) means joy in Greek |
Dec 4, 2024 12:09 PM
#23
Reply to RobertBobert
@Fail_Man_X This show literally screams "we decided to try to make G-Witch again, but now with your complaints and suggestions in mind", lmao.
@IzayoiSk I don't want to speculate about their intentions, but judging by the way the local female and male lead is presented, you can literally tell that they are again trying to attract a youth and female audience. All these moe-ish trigger like girls and bishonen looking boys... However, although I had the same thoughts about G-Witch, it turned out that the design was the last thing the show used to connect with its desired target audience.
@Genoard Yeah. This does feel like a very Trigger-Gainax anime at first glance.
@betaweeb You didn't like the rebuilds, but liked G-Witch?
@IzayoiSk I don't want to speculate about their intentions, but judging by the way the local female and male lead is presented, you can literally tell that they are again trying to attract a youth and female audience. All these moe-ish trigger like girls and bishonen looking boys... However, although I had the same thoughts about G-Witch, it turned out that the design was the last thing the show used to connect with its desired target audience.
@Genoard Yeah. This does feel like a very Trigger-Gainax anime at first glance.
@betaweeb You didn't like the rebuilds, but liked G-Witch?
@RobertBobert maybe ideas cross pollinated but production for this project was said to have started in 2018, before G-Witch. |
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Dec 4, 2024 12:13 PM
#24
Reply to Fortress_Maximus
@RobertBobert maybe ideas cross pollinated but production for this project was said to have started in 2018, before G-Witch.
@Fortress_Maximus So this show isn't a bug-fixed reboot of G-Witch, but G-Witch is a cheaper version of that show? What a twist! But all jokes aside, I wonder what the final message this show is going to tell. Surely this won’t be entirely dedicated to underground duels and nothing else? |
Dec 4, 2024 12:21 PM
#25
Looks like dogshit. If WfM and this are the future of AU Gundam I would rather it just die. |
Dec 4, 2024 12:44 PM
#26
The italian site already spoiled the plot, they istantly deleted it but was too late... you can find it on the gundam reddit |
Dec 4, 2024 12:45 PM
#27
This just looks like a carbon copy of the last Gundam show. “Seems more like monkey see, monkey do than using creative energy if you ask me.” |
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Dec 4, 2024 12:50 PM
#28
Reply to RobertBobert
@Fortress_Maximus
So this show isn't a bug-fixed reboot of G-Witch, but G-Witch is a cheaper version of that show? What a twist! But all jokes aside, I wonder what the final message this show is going to tell. Surely this won’t be entirely dedicated to underground duels and nothing else?
So this show isn't a bug-fixed reboot of G-Witch, but G-Witch is a cheaper version of that show? What a twist! But all jokes aside, I wonder what the final message this show is going to tell. Surely this won’t be entirely dedicated to underground duels and nothing else?
Perfectly put. No, but, it can use its setting to convey messaging while still having a coherent focus. There's a police Zaku in the trailer, and from the official website and we're given that Machu is doing these duels illegally, Nyaan is a smuggler and Shuji is a graffiti artist (evident in te trailer, too). Living on the edge of the law like the Gundam Team in ZZ (who were truants and junk dealers to start with). |
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Dec 4, 2024 1:21 PM
#29
Reply to RobertBobert
@Fail_Man_X This show literally screams "we decided to try to make G-Witch again, but now with your complaints and suggestions in mind", lmao.
@IzayoiSk I don't want to speculate about their intentions, but judging by the way the local female and male lead is presented, you can literally tell that they are again trying to attract a youth and female audience. All these moe-ish trigger like girls and bishonen looking boys... However, although I had the same thoughts about G-Witch, it turned out that the design was the last thing the show used to connect with its desired target audience.
@Genoard Yeah. This does feel like a very Trigger-Gainax anime at first glance.
@betaweeb You didn't like the rebuilds, but liked G-Witch?
@IzayoiSk I don't want to speculate about their intentions, but judging by the way the local female and male lead is presented, you can literally tell that they are again trying to attract a youth and female audience. All these moe-ish trigger like girls and bishonen looking boys... However, although I had the same thoughts about G-Witch, it turned out that the design was the last thing the show used to connect with its desired target audience.
@Genoard Yeah. This does feel like a very Trigger-Gainax anime at first glance.
@betaweeb You didn't like the rebuilds, but liked G-Witch?
@RobertBobert RobertBobert said: You didn't like the rebuilds, but liked G-Witch? i mean, i guess i liked them well enough as individual experiences (excluding the third one, which was by far the worst one and was a turning point for the worse for the movie series in my opinion), but overall, i just think that that entire project didn't live up to the franchise, didn't add much of value to it and showed a lack of understanding of some of the best and most important elements of the OG series. obviousely you don't need to agree, but yes, i enjoyed and respect g witch a lot more. the worse thing about g witch was probably how it was paced, when the first season was a bit slow and the second one the opposite to that. but overall, i loved the production of the show, from the animation and action, to the character design and art, adored the cast of characters and was pretty engaged by the drama and narrative. not a perfect show by any means, but i consistently enjoyed it throughout, something that i can't really say regarding the rebuilds, which frustrated me at many points. |
Dec 4, 2024 2:41 PM
#30
Haven’t finished Witch from Mercury yet but I’m enjoying it so far. And this looks really cool I’m into it. Interesting how Witch from Mercury was clearly inspired by Revolutionary Girl Utena and this one has one of the writers from that show on board. I can only hope this one is even half as gay as Witch and Utena. |
Dec 4, 2024 3:54 PM
#31
Another Gundam anime, eh? I'm surprised it was announced that fast after the prevision one. This trailer looks kinda meh. I'm not that much into the series, but I admit the staff looks promising. However, what the heck is that awkward title? xD |
Dec 4, 2024 4:12 PM
#32
Reply to Hades_BottomText
Haven’t finished Witch from Mercury yet but I’m enjoying it so far. And this looks really cool I’m into it. Interesting how Witch from Mercury was clearly inspired by Revolutionary Girl Utena and this one has one of the writers from that show on board. I can only hope this one is even half as gay as Witch and Utena.
@betaweeb I find this strange since the popular opinion is basically the opposite. Rebuilds have widespread popularity as "EVA brought to perfection and original design", while G-Witch is still the subject of controversy between people who were first introduced to the franchise through it and people who consider it a failed attempt to reboot the franchise for a new audience. Plus, it also plays a role that Rebuilds were created to fully embody the original author’s concept with all the new features, while G-Witch was too carried away with experimenting with new elements and trends (not to mention yuri and the weird decision to make the new show an actual spiritual remake of an old shoujo show for a completely different audience). That is, a sort of old vs new debate, and taking into account the nuances of mecha as a genre, with the expected outcome. @Fortress_Maximus So you'd expect them to use the setting of underground battles and stuff like that as some kind of metaphor for urban problems and experiences? Hence also the focus on the purity and innocence of the MC, immersed in a cruel and criminal world? I think it would be interesting, but how would they fit Gundam into it? Would they create some kind of mecha urban crime story about social stratification, yakuza, police brutality/corruption, etc? @Adnash Me too. Many people told me that I shouldn't wait for a new TV show for at least another 2-3 years, but they literally announced a new show a couple of years after the last one. Although this can be explained by the fact that this project has been in development even longer than G-Witch |
Dec 4, 2024 5:11 PM
#33
@animegamer245 You do realize that if some opinion is rare or unusual, then people may be surprised by it and that’s normal, right? Just because people may have different opinions does not mean that some opinions cannot be more or less common than others. That's why it's called unusual. |
Dec 5, 2024 9:26 AM
#34
Reply to RobertBobert
@betaweeb I find this strange since the popular opinion is basically the opposite. Rebuilds have widespread popularity as "EVA brought to perfection and original design", while G-Witch is still the subject of controversy between people who were first introduced to the franchise through it and people who consider it a failed attempt to reboot the franchise for a new audience. Plus, it also plays a role that Rebuilds were created to fully embody the original author’s concept with all the new features, while G-Witch was too carried away with experimenting with new elements and trends (not to mention yuri and the weird decision to make the new show an actual spiritual remake of an old shoujo show for a completely different audience). That is, a sort of old vs new debate, and taking into account the nuances of mecha as a genre, with the expected outcome.
@Fortress_Maximus So you'd expect them to use the setting of underground battles and stuff like that as some kind of metaphor for urban problems and experiences? Hence also the focus on the purity and innocence of the MC, immersed in a cruel and criminal world? I think it would be interesting, but how would they fit Gundam into it? Would they create some kind of mecha urban crime story about social stratification, yakuza, police brutality/corruption, etc?
@Adnash Me too. Many people told me that I shouldn't wait for a new TV show for at least another 2-3 years, but they literally announced a new show a couple of years after the last one. Although this can be explained by the fact that this project has been in development even longer than G-Witch
@Fortress_Maximus So you'd expect them to use the setting of underground battles and stuff like that as some kind of metaphor for urban problems and experiences? Hence also the focus on the purity and innocence of the MC, immersed in a cruel and criminal world? I think it would be interesting, but how would they fit Gundam into it? Would they create some kind of mecha urban crime story about social stratification, yakuza, police brutality/corruption, etc?
@Adnash Me too. Many people told me that I shouldn't wait for a new TV show for at least another 2-3 years, but they literally announced a new show a couple of years after the last one. Although this can be explained by the fact that this project has been in development even longer than G-Witch
RobertBobert said: @betaweeb I find this strange since the popular opinion is basically the opposite. Rebuilds have widespread popularity as "EVA brought to perfection and original design", while G-Witch is still the subject of controversy between people who were first introduced to the franchise through it and people who consider it a failed attempt to reboot the franchise for a new audience. Plus, it also plays a role that Rebuilds were created to fully embody the original author’s concept with all the new features, while G-Witch was too carried away with experimenting with new elements and trends (not to mention yuri and the weird decision to make the new show an actual spiritual remake of an old shoujo show for a completely different audience). That is, a sort of old vs new debate, and taking into account the nuances of mecha as a genre, with the expected outcome. a couple of things. first, even if what you said was accurate, i don't see why dissenting from a popular opinion should be looked on as strange, people have different opinions and there isn't really a shortage of people that like g witch or others that are critical of the rebuilds. secondly, i don't think what you said about the rebuilds is really that accurate. the movie series definitely has many fans and appreciators and people were very high on the last one, admittedly more so than myself (but i liked it well enough, despite my gripes). that said though, "widespread popularity as eva brought to perfection and original design" seems like a huge reach. those movies were plenty controversial in their own right, from people that hated the first one for being too much like the original show and therefore feeling a bit pointless and like a recap, to people with the opposite critique, towards the subsequent films, for straying too far away from the original series. regarding what you said about g witch, i won't even pretend to be in the know here, so i'll just assume what you said about the reception of the series is correct, but none of that really bothers me, as i'm not an OG gundam fan, nor did i watch shows like utena that supposedly are relevant. all i can tell you is that i watched g witch and really liked it (for the reasons specified in my earlier post, among other things). so while you didn't directly mention how you feel about these anime, if you liked the rebuilds more than me and disliked g witch unlike me, that's perfectly fine brother, i don't see why my opinions about these should really surprise you that much. |
Dec 5, 2024 9:38 AM
#35
Reply to betaweeb
RobertBobert said:
@betaweeb I find this strange since the popular opinion is basically the opposite. Rebuilds have widespread popularity as "EVA brought to perfection and original design", while G-Witch is still the subject of controversy between people who were first introduced to the franchise through it and people who consider it a failed attempt to reboot the franchise for a new audience. Plus, it also plays a role that Rebuilds were created to fully embody the original author’s concept with all the new features, while G-Witch was too carried away with experimenting with new elements and trends (not to mention yuri and the weird decision to make the new show an actual spiritual remake of an old shoujo show for a completely different audience). That is, a sort of old vs new debate, and taking into account the nuances of mecha as a genre, with the expected outcome.
@betaweeb I find this strange since the popular opinion is basically the opposite. Rebuilds have widespread popularity as "EVA brought to perfection and original design", while G-Witch is still the subject of controversy between people who were first introduced to the franchise through it and people who consider it a failed attempt to reboot the franchise for a new audience. Plus, it also plays a role that Rebuilds were created to fully embody the original author’s concept with all the new features, while G-Witch was too carried away with experimenting with new elements and trends (not to mention yuri and the weird decision to make the new show an actual spiritual remake of an old shoujo show for a completely different audience). That is, a sort of old vs new debate, and taking into account the nuances of mecha as a genre, with the expected outcome.
a couple of things. first, even if what you said was accurate, i don't see why dissenting from a popular opinion should be looked on as strange, people have different opinions and there isn't really a shortage of people that like g witch or others that are critical of the rebuilds.
secondly, i don't think what you said about the rebuilds is really that accurate. the movie series definitely has many fans and appreciators and people were very high on the last one, admittedly more so than myself (but i liked it well enough, despite my gripes). that said though, "widespread popularity as eva brought to perfection and original design" seems like a huge reach. those movies were plenty controversial in their own right, from people that hated the first one for being too much like the original show and therefore feeling a bit pointless and like a recap, to people with the opposite critique, towards the subsequent films, for straying too far away from the original series.
regarding what you said about g witch, i won't even pretend to be in the know here, so i'll just assume what you said about the reception of the series is correct, but none of that really bothers me, as i'm not an OG gundam fan, nor did i watch shows like utena that supposedly are relevant. all i can tell you is that i watched g witch and really liked it (for the reasons specified in my earlier post, among other things).
so while you didn't directly mention how you feel about these anime, if you liked the rebuilds more than me and disliked g witch unlike me, that's perfectly fine brother, i don't see why my opinions about these should really surprise you that much.
@betaweeb It's strange to me because I'm used to a different opinion. You may also find my opinion strange if you are used to a different one. Is even this problematic now? Well, the mere fact of criticism does not negate the general praise of the films as a whole. It's a matter of their sizes and ratios. As for the differences, I think this is completely normal, given that Anno had conflicting feelings about the ending and always wanted to rewrite it according to his plans. The problem is that Sunrise went so overboard in pandering to a specific audience that G-Witch literally became a show for a very specific audience instead of appealing to as large an audience as they wanted. This is probably why this show seems like attempt number two, as Sunrise still wants to attract a younger audience, but after having done some damage control. I liked the reboots less than the original series, since I prefer more “down-to-earth” shows to something pretentious and arthouse. Although I think Rebuilds has much better animation and direction. As for G-Witch, for me it is a solid show at 7 out of 10 with the highest quality technical performances, but a very weak plot and a problematic production process. But you are free to have a different opinion if you want, of course. |
Dec 5, 2024 10:06 AM
#36
Reply to RobertBobert
@betaweeb It's strange to me because I'm used to a different opinion. You may also find my opinion strange if you are used to a different one. Is even this problematic now?
Well, the mere fact of criticism does not negate the general praise of the films as a whole. It's a matter of their sizes and ratios. As for the differences, I think this is completely normal, given that Anno had conflicting feelings about the ending and always wanted to rewrite it according to his plans. The problem is that Sunrise went so overboard in pandering to a specific audience that G-Witch literally became a show for a very specific audience instead of appealing to as large an audience as they wanted. This is probably why this show seems like attempt number two, as Sunrise still wants to attract a younger audience, but after having done some damage control.
I liked the reboots less than the original series, since I prefer more “down-to-earth” shows to something pretentious and arthouse. Although I think Rebuilds has much better animation and direction. As for G-Witch, for me it is a solid show at 7 out of 10 with the highest quality technical performances, but a very weak plot and a problematic production process. But you are free to have a different opinion if you want, of course.
Well, the mere fact of criticism does not negate the general praise of the films as a whole. It's a matter of their sizes and ratios. As for the differences, I think this is completely normal, given that Anno had conflicting feelings about the ending and always wanted to rewrite it according to his plans. The problem is that Sunrise went so overboard in pandering to a specific audience that G-Witch literally became a show for a very specific audience instead of appealing to as large an audience as they wanted. This is probably why this show seems like attempt number two, as Sunrise still wants to attract a younger audience, but after having done some damage control.
I liked the reboots less than the original series, since I prefer more “down-to-earth” shows to something pretentious and arthouse. Although I think Rebuilds has much better animation and direction. As for G-Witch, for me it is a solid show at 7 out of 10 with the highest quality technical performances, but a very weak plot and a problematic production process. But you are free to have a different opinion if you want, of course.
@RobertBobert it's not problematic whatsoever, i just found it strange that you found it strange i guess, since i don't think my opinion here is that bizarre or anything like that. mostly because i've seen a lot of negativity and critique surrounding the rebuilds online, as i said, and don't think their acclaim is as universal as you suggest, but as you mentioned, it has to do with the opinions one is used to, so maybe we just frequent different circles i suppose. and whether the changes were normal because of anno's feelings is besides the point, which was how those were received, when some better than others. i also prefer the OG eva series, but i guess to a larger extent, since i don't strictly prefer the visuals in the rebuilds and had a lot of issues with their narrative and some of the decisions made, i could elaborate in detail if you wish. and yeah, i feel differently regarding g witch as well, since i really liked it as i've said previously and don't really relate to a lot of the issues some fans seem to have with it, but i guess i feel for some of them, as i wish more people would have loved it like i did and i have some problems with it as well and think it could have benefited from some more time in the oven, especially some parts of the script. |
Dec 5, 2024 10:10 AM
#37
Reply to betaweeb
@RobertBobert
it's not problematic whatsoever, i just found it strange that you found it strange i guess, since i don't think my opinion here is that bizarre or anything like that.
mostly because i've seen a lot of negativity and critique surrounding the rebuilds online, as i said, and don't think their acclaim is as universal as you suggest, but as you mentioned, it has to do with the opinions one is used to, so maybe we just frequent different circles i suppose. and whether the changes were normal because of anno's feelings is besides the point, which was how those were received, when some better than others.
i also prefer the OG eva series, but i guess to a larger extent, since i don't strictly prefer the visuals in the rebuilds and had a lot of issues with their narrative and some of the decisions made, i could elaborate in detail if you wish.
and yeah, i feel differently regarding g witch as well, since i really liked it as i've said previously and don't really relate to a lot of the issues some fans seem to have with it, but i guess i feel for some of them, as i wish more people would have loved it like i did and i have some problems with it as well and think it could have benefited from some more time in the oven, especially some parts of the script.
it's not problematic whatsoever, i just found it strange that you found it strange i guess, since i don't think my opinion here is that bizarre or anything like that.
mostly because i've seen a lot of negativity and critique surrounding the rebuilds online, as i said, and don't think their acclaim is as universal as you suggest, but as you mentioned, it has to do with the opinions one is used to, so maybe we just frequent different circles i suppose. and whether the changes were normal because of anno's feelings is besides the point, which was how those were received, when some better than others.
i also prefer the OG eva series, but i guess to a larger extent, since i don't strictly prefer the visuals in the rebuilds and had a lot of issues with their narrative and some of the decisions made, i could elaborate in detail if you wish.
and yeah, i feel differently regarding g witch as well, since i really liked it as i've said previously and don't really relate to a lot of the issues some fans seem to have with it, but i guess i feel for some of them, as i wish more people would have loved it like i did and i have some problems with it as well and think it could have benefited from some more time in the oven, especially some parts of the script.
@betaweeb I don't think having ANOTHER opinion is such a big deal. This is a problem only when people start to conflict or even attack each other because of this. Like when I literally got humiliated and insulted the other day just because I disagreed with a person about conceptual decisions in Doom 3, lmao. |
Dec 5, 2024 10:16 AM
#38
Reply to RobertBobert
@betaweeb I don't think having ANOTHER opinion is such a big deal. This is a problem only when people start to conflict or even attack each other because of this. Like when I literally got humiliated and insulted the other day just because I disagreed with a person about conceptual decisions in Doom 3, lmao.
@RobertBobert lol, sorry you went through that. and doom 3 huh, that's a trip down memory lane for me, i vaguely remember my older brother playing it when i was like 6 or something and that it scared the shit outta me. |
Dec 5, 2024 10:18 AM
#39
Reply to betaweeb
@RobertBobert
lol, sorry you went through that.
and doom 3 huh, that's a trip down memory lane for me, i vaguely remember my older brother playing it when i was like 6 or something and that it scared the shit outta me.
lol, sorry you went through that.
and doom 3 huh, that's a trip down memory lane for me, i vaguely remember my older brother playing it when i was like 6 or something and that it scared the shit outta me.
@betaweeb Apparently every medium has ardent fans who believe that any criticism of their idol or favorite content is a personal attack, so they definitely have to be defensive lmao. |
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