| I don't use Crunchyroll = I don't care people are going to hate on Crunchyroll because of all these censorships |
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| I asked about this topic a few months ago to Crunchyroll's customer service and this was their answer: " Crunchyroll does not censor its content. We play what we are provided. We can only air the versions of shows provided to us by the content creators. Sometimes they provide a censored version and sometimes uncensored. Often, the broadcast version of a show will be censored to boost sales of a later uncensored version for DVD and Blu-ray". |
| but muh video quality!!!1!!!!!!!! |
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| In general, I wish things weren’t censored. Crunchyroll keeps doing and it’s annoying now. The idea was to make anime more accessible and not do the same practices in the 90’s with censorship to the point of changing source material. HOWEVER Japan needs to cool it with fan service sometimes, little bit is cool but not when it’s questionable lol It’s when the censorship changes story and stuff for a heavy story and thought provoking anime it sucks |
| its stupid literally anime on streaming can ignore many tv censoring parameters 'cause is streaming, just the specific public for x type of show or pepole what have interest for will watch this show, just see cyberpunk edgerunners on netflix and say me if some scenes can be showed on tv. |
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| It comes as zero surprise to me that the anti-industry crowd would feel the need to preemptively smear anyone who exposes their ignorance on how the industry actually works in situations like this. As far as I can tell, the case of Onimai is yet another example of "Premium Japanese satellite channels get an uncensored / less-censored version of a 'heavy ecchi' anime, while general broadcasts and streaming sites get the fullly-censored version" We've seen this play out numerous times, at least as far back as shows like Highschool DxD, Freezing, and Dragonar Academy, many of which also drew erroneous accusations of Western companies "butchering" anime, just because the pirate streams and downloads were taken from the less-censored versions. Onimai is known to be broadcast on AT-X, BS11 (both satellite channels), and on general broadcaster Tokyo-MX. The CR version is more censored than the AT-X/BS11 versions, as seen via the files [KureyonRaws] Onii-chan wa Oshimai! - 01 (AT-X 1280x720 x264 AAC).mkv and [YE] Onii-chan wa Oshimai! - 01 (BS11 1280x720 x264 AAC).mkv that you can find on everyone's favorite feline torrent site. Unfortunately, there are no files atm labeled as being from Tokyo-MX, or just "MX" as they are generally tagged, so I can't confirm 100% that the CR and MX versions are the same. However, in all conceivable probability, CR is streaming the more-censored general broadcast version that they received from the Japanese licensor, not censoring anything themselves. Ever hear of Occam's Razor? "The simplest explanation is most likely correct." Because for CR to be censoring this or similar shows like World's End Harem, the following would have to be true: 1) CR having some "Department of Censorship" that possesses the financial resources and artistic talent to edit animation. 2) CR believing that such censorship would benefit them financially, or that some nebulous, nefarious "agenda" is worth more than the risks to their bottom line and their community reputation. 3) All this censorship/editing being feasible within the tight windows of a simulcast schedule, including any approvals they'd need from the Japanese content owners. But of course, the anti-industry crowd tends to ignore verifiable, empirical evidence, and believe the opposite of Occam's Razor ("Macco's Beard"?): that the most tangled, convoluted, and conspiratorial explanation must be the right one. Do what you feel you need to do to get whatever version of this show suits you best. But if you want to blame anyone, blame the Japanese contracts for not letting any services other than those premium Japanese satellite stations have legal access to the uncensored version. |
| A general good rule of thumb these days is to not support Sony in any medium. |
| This thread reeks of ignorance. CR just airs the censored version of the show as it's a part of the deal. This is how the episode aired on Japanese TV. |
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Zalis said: As far as I can tell, the case of Onimai is yet another example of "Premium Japanese satellite channels get an uncensored / less-censored version of a 'heavy ecchi' anime, while general broadcasts and streaming sites get the fullly-censored version" We've seen this play out numerous times, at least as far back as shows like Highschool DxD, Freezing, and Dragonar Academy, many of which also drew erroneous accusations of Western companies "butchering" anime, just because the pirate streams and downloads were taken from the less-censored versions. Onimai is known to be broadcast on AT-X, BS11 (both satellite channels), and on general broadcaster Tokyo-MX. The CR version is more censored than the AT-X/BS11 versions, as seen via the files [KureyonRaws] Onii-chan wa Oshimai! - 01 (AT-X 1280x720 x264 AAC).mkv and [YE] Onii-chan wa Oshimai! - 01 (BS11 1280x720 x264 AAC).mkv that you can find on everyone's favorite feline torrent site. Unfortunately, there are no files atm labeled as being from Tokyo-MX, or just "MX" as they are generally tagged, so I can't confirm 100% that the CR and MX versions are the same. However, in all conceivable probability, CR is streaming the more-censored general broadcast version that they received from the Japanese licensor, not censoring anything themselves. Ever hear of Occam's Razor? "The simplest explanation is most likely correct." That's exactly how I like to put it. Looks like CR got the censored version, I hope they can get the uncensored version in the near future like for Terraformars. Oh, and just to remind people on this forum, Terraformars was heavily censored, and was the one CR stream until people found out that version was heavily censored in both CR & Japan. In the end, CR got the uncensored version of Terraformars. |
ColourWheel said: Proof that the Force was strong with that one.I have gone even further back recently since I got my hands on a Laserdisc player that's been modified with a HDMI ports. BTW I recently actually watched Venus Wars again when I got lucky and found some guy selling his entire Anime collection they owned on Laserdisc at some random yard sale last month :) That just proves how strong the Force is with you. |
| Funny how we have the same corporate paid shills in every thread. When is MAL finally gonna enforce the rules on them for not allowed advertisement? |
ateks said: That's not unique to Crunchy, it's a nude ecchi, it's going to be censored in the original "live" broadcast. Ayakashi Triangle was also heavily censored on Crunchy. I remember like three days ago some shills argued that Crunchy has better video quality than illegal steaming sites which isn't even true. So much for better quality lol... Now watch how the paid shills will flood this thread soon and try to convince everyone that this isn't Crunchys fault. |
| If you reply back to me and I never respond, I lost interest and don't care. Sorry about that. |
| Off-topic, but its also about Crunchyroll: Whenever I go to crunchyroll website, and I click on an anime, the screen goes fully black. This happens in both of my computers. However, crunchy works fine on my crunchy phone and TV app Is anyone also having problems with the crunchy website through their computer? |
| It's the exact same version that initially went up on pirate sites, who says Crunchy has anything to do with it? lol |
| If you reply back to me and I never respond, I lost interest and don't care. Sorry about that. |
ateks said: They must be paying them pretty well lol. No way a sane individual would shill out as much as the usual suspects do for free, especially for a company as bad as CR. Funny how we have the same corporate paid shills in every thread. When is MAL finally gonna enforce the rules on them for not allowed advertisement? |
| "Well, she's flatter than a pancake" -Mimi Alpacas |
Tropisch said: ateks said: They must be paying them pretty well lol. No way a sane individual would shill out as much as the usual suspects do for free, especially for a company as bad as CR. Funny how we have the same corporate paid shills in every thread. When is MAL finally gonna enforce the rules on them for not allowed advertisement? Yeah and it's way too obvious at this point. I'm not saying people can't genuinely like Crunchy and maybe post one or two good things about them but these guys write hundreds of posts about them every week. Just take a look at @MadanielFL or @Zalis post history, they must be spending multiple hours every week just shilling for paid streaming services and people seriously think they don't get paid for that? It's just ridiculous that they didn't get banned yet. |
| A piece of me slowly dies every time an innocent anime gets censored, it's truly sad and heartbreaking. |
Tablekun said: So are you gonna boycott anime itself? A general good rule of thumb these days is to not support Sony in any medium. Cause Sony is quite literally the biggest anime company in Japan, I mean you even like some anime produced by Sony yourself... Tropisch said: Ah yes, because telling the truth is considering "shilling" while spreading misinformation is based and good....ateks said: They must be paying them pretty well lol. No way a sane individual would shill out as much as the usual suspects do for free, especially for a company as bad as CR. Funny how we have the same corporate paid shills in every thread. When is MAL finally gonna enforce the rules on them for not allowed advertisement? ateks said: Tbh you could be banned yourself for spreading misinformation...Tropisch said: They must be paying them pretty well lol. No way a sane individual would shill out as much as the usual suspects do for free, especially for a company as bad as CR. Yeah and it's way too obvious at this point. I'm not saying people can't genuinely like Crunchy and maybe post one or two good things about them but these guys write hundreds of posts about them every week. Just take a look at @MadanielFL or @Zalis post history, they must be spending multiple hours every week just shilling for paid streaming services and people seriously think they don't get paid for that? It's just ridiculous that they didn't get banned yet. |
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MadanielFL said: Ah yes, because telling the truth is considering "shilling" while spreading misinformation is based and good.... Tbh you could be banned yourself for spreading misinformation... Aren't you shills the ones spreading misinformation all the time? Still couldn't prove me that Crunchy has better video quality and still couldn't proof me that they support the anime industry. You're just posting fake statistics and cope all the time while not even knowing about the basics of video compression. You're literally still thinking that Crunchy has real 1080p how could anyone take you serious at this point? |
ateks said: Didn't I already proved this to you? MadanielFL said: Ah yes, because telling the truth is considering "shilling" while spreading misinformation is based and good.... Tbh you could be banned yourself for spreading misinformation... Aren't you shills the ones spreading misinformation all the time? Still couldn't prove me that Crunchy has better video quality and still couldn't proof me that they support the anime industry. You're just posting fake statistics and cope all the time while not even knowing about the basics of video compression. You're literally still thinking that Crunchy has real 1080p how could anyone take you serious at this point? Didn't other people, some of which are also anime pirates, back up my claims saying I'm not wrong. And the one about supporting the industry I already proved a long time ago, just look how many anime they've helped produce. And saying Crunchyroll censored Onimai is straight up misinformation, as it has already been proved in this thread, so who really should be banned here? |
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| People in this thread praising pirate sources unaware that they by and large just rip from CR lmao Also this stuff is censored in Japan too. If you want a totally uncensored version, you're gonna have to wait for the blu-rays |
| People who put MAL stats in their sigs are losers lol |
ateks said: Tropisch said: They must be paying them pretty well lol. No way a sane individual would shill out as much as the usual suspects do for free, especially for a company as bad as CR. Yeah and it's way too obvious at this point. I'm not saying people can't genuinely like Crunchy and maybe post one or two good things about them but these guys write hundreds of posts about them every week. Just take a look at @MadanielFL or @Zalis post history, they must be spending multiple hours every week just shilling for paid streaming services and people seriously think they don't get paid for that? It's just ridiculous that they didn't get banned yet. Clearly neither of you bothered to read or are able to disprove a single thing I actually said -- including condoning piracy of this particular series. Once again, zero surprise there. I have faith that MAL mods and admins are infinitely better than you are at distinguishing between authentic users who post authentic opinions and verifiable facts (no matter how verbose!) about the anime industry, and actual paid advertising/shilling. |
ateks said: Crunchyroll does have, generally, better stream quality than your site of choice. I know this because I also use 9anime, and have done side by side comparisons for the two sites. I enjoy 9anime with no issue and cannot tell the difference without the side by side, but there is a difference.Tropisch said: They must be paying them pretty well lol. No way a sane individual would shill out as much as the usual suspects do for free, especially for a company as bad as CR. Yeah and it's way too obvious at this point. I'm not saying people can't genuinely like Crunchy and maybe post one or two good things about them but these guys write hundreds of posts about them every week. Just take a look at @MadanielFL or @Zalis post history, they must be spending multiple hours every week just shilling for paid streaming services and people seriously think they don't get paid for that? It's just ridiculous that they didn't get banned yet. ateks said: Aren't you shills the ones spreading misinformation all the time? Still couldn't prove me that Crunchy has better video quality and still couldn't proof me that they support the anime industry. You're just posting fake statistics and cope all the time while not even knowing about the basics of video compression. You're literally still thinking that Crunchy has real 1080p how could anyone take you serious at this point? I don't care about the difference, I think either that people who do are being too picky or my eyesight is worse than I realise. I think it's poor form to call people proving you wrong about a given subject company plants. They aren't and I know that you know they aren't despite what you claim to believe. I think people like zalis and madanielfl take too much pleasure in proving people wrong on the internet, but being annoying doesn't mean they have ulterior motives. I think you place pride in your identity as a pirate, and extrapolate that to the practice itself, that's fine actually I think it's pretty fun to do that too (I even own a pirate hat it's great). But when people criticize the practice or say it's not the same value as doing it officially and legally you're taking it personally. |
| I don't remember Crunchyroll being like this before. I'm guessing this started happening at around the time that FUNimation purchased CR? That feels like a very FUNi-style thing to do... |
Formerly known as Kuroni_Kuru |
| It's a good thing i don't pay them anything |
| Who cares? I personally don't like the ecchi genre so it doesn't affect me in any manner. I don't care about anybody else. |
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| Crunchyroll isn't even a good site anyways. All forms of censorship is terrible and that's why I set sail the seven seas! |
| That it's funny that people are paying for inferiority |
| Mods asleep? This thread devolved into the ethics of drawings a while ago and it's still up. Also cr has to be the worst streaming service out there even without any censorship. Like cmon even if you are a purist who refuses to pirate at least subscribe to something with decent video quality. |
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| It doesn't matter much to me since I buy physical releases. And the show that's used as an example doesn't look like it meets my taste. |
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Anonymous_User54 said: Of course...It's always easier to point the finger at some kinda boogieman rather than put any effort into even the bare minimum of research or putting any thought whatsoever into it. But hey, at least it's something people can actually agree on for whatever that's worth...FanofAction said: TRUE MY GUY It's a pretty well-known thing but people want to act like Crunchyroll is the boogieman here for some reason, i thought this was kind of normal with some streaming sites to air the TV broadcasts first and sell the uncensored ver on BD or re-release to stream after the series finish, this all come across as a nothingburger. To be honest nobody really cares about the context of why this might have happened because. CRUNCHYROLL=BADWhile there are anime that have aired both censored and uncensored (likely at a later timeslot), I'm pretty sure Crunchyhole has always put up the censored airing regardless of whether or not thats the case. Just stating the obvious, but of course they aren't going to put up the uncensored versions....The industry wants people to actually buy them, which is funny because you can easily find blu-ray rips of said uncensored versions. Also, you really think they'd put in the work to censor this stuff themselves? That's cute. And what exactly would be the benefit of them doing so? |
| I don't support censorship in any capacity. Art is art. |
| "Why Crunchyroll want to only cater to casuals instead of anime fans?" Anime fans: "I don't care, i pirate anyway" Here's why (anyway a lot of time they are already censored in their original tv version, idk about this specific case) |
| I love seeing opinions out about how "normies" don't last and aren't longterm paying customers of anime; while at the same time seeing brags about using pirate sites. f^%&*ng really??? |
| Don't diffuse a show if you don't approve its content. Censorship is wrong no matter the media. |
| I just checked High School DxD and it's uncensored. Literally just saw Rias's big bare tits on my screen. In this case, it probably has something to do with that series being rated PG-13. At the very least, it's obviously not being done out of a sense of morality, which would be entirely farcical & laughable in its own rights. And speaking of clown shows, this thread...wew lad! |
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| I wonder when this forum post will get locked. 🤔 |
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VampireLord1024 said: Same here!!! I think this really need a lock right now immediately!!!I wonder when this forum post will get locked. 🤔 |
mdo7 said: Looking at the bottom of the forums, no moderators are even on right now, so this'll probably keep going on for more hours until one of them notices it, but sometimes I read these forums & get a good laugh out of it.VampireLord1024 said: Same here!!! I think this really need a lock right now immediately!!!I wonder when this forum post will get locked. 🤔 |
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VampireLord1024 said: Looking at the bottom of the forums, no moderators are even on right now, so this'll probably keep going on for more hours until one of them notices it, but sometimes I read these forums & get a good laugh out of it. I've already reported this thread & this one to the moderators. I mean I've already seen anime being censored in Japan for a long time even back as 2008/2009. I found that out when Girls Bravo fansub had too many censorship after I saw the uncut version. |
| My 1,000'th post and I'll add this video to remind people that anime always face censorship in Japan even before it went outside of Japan: |
mdo7 said: Oh, ok, I've never watched fansubs Would have been funny if the mods found this forum on their own. Now someone in this one just needs to have the "x vs y" debate that's against the forum rules in this forum.VampireLord1024 said: Looking at the bottom of the forums, no moderators are even on right now, so this'll probably keep going on for more hours until one of them notices it, but sometimes I read these forums & get a good laugh out of it. I've already reported this thread & this one to the moderators. I mean I've already seen anime being censored in Japan for a long time even back as 2008/2009. I found that out when Girls Bravo fansub had too many censorship after I saw the uncut version. |
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