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Jun 24, 2022 5:02 PM
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I just don't get why most anime fans aren't more concerned by this. I straight up cannot watch a lot of the stuff I liked when I was a teenager because now that I'm an adult I do not want to see high school girls' bodies on display. It's frankly weird how this is so common and isn't considered pedophilic by anime fans. We just accept this, but I don't get why. Why is loli an acceptable term when it's just disgusting?
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Jun 24, 2022 5:03 PM
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I love loli genre of hentai and loli anime like Mitsudomoe and Eromanga Sensei. I do admit it is very degenerate though. Most people do not mind it since it is fiction.
Jun 24, 2022 5:04 PM
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"It's just fiction bro"

*proceeds to shit bricks over multiple pages because a western movie dared to have a female or black main character*
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I don't.. I want it to stop. underage characters should not be represented and objectified as such...

I'm a ara ara onee sama/ milf person...so I'm not okay with lolis being objectified...
 

Jun 24, 2022 5:13 PM
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Because most anime fans don't critically consume media and are unable to find something unacceptable so long as it's fictitious. If they do find it disgusting they have to be obnoxious about it instead of ignoring it and finding something innocent to watch.

Jun 24, 2022 5:15 PM
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The target audience of most anime is horny 15 year old males. 15yo guys drooling over 15yo girls is not pedophile, it's normal. You even said yourself you used to like it as a teenager so what's the problem suddenly? Just watch stuff that is targeted at your age.
Jun 24, 2022 5:22 PM
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Nice, making up wierd idés in u head to make you not enjoy Anime anymore, great.

I'm sorry, but it feels like you haven't grown up yet, if that's the mindset you currently have.
Or wait, you mihgt be from North America, yeah, sure that's the case.
As in that "country" you care about the wierdest shit ever.

Jun 24, 2022 5:22 PM
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I still wouldn't ever let you be in charge of or left alone with children if you love watching sexual depictions of children whether it be fictional or otherwise. It's not some weird quirk, it's very disturbing if you're not also a child
Jun 24, 2022 5:25 PM
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Nillwas said:
Nice, making up wierd idés in u head to make you not enjoy Anime anymore, great.

I'm sorry, but it feels like you haven't grown up yet, if that's the mindset you currently have.
Or wait, you mihgt be from North America, yeah, sure that's the case.
As in that "country" you care about the wierdest shit ever.


I actually still do like anime, I just don't watch anime that tries to turn me on with children. You can watch plenty of anime without watching objectified minors. It's kind of weird that you think all anime is like that
Jun 24, 2022 5:27 PM

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you mention not being able to watch shows you liked as a teenager due to their over the top horny portrayals of teenagers. SAME but this seems fine to me, if youre a teenager i think it would be weirder to be horny for 30 yr olds.

there are shows that portray younger characters, your highschool slice of life stuff, without being so damn horny, and those are nice and comfy.

if youre older and like the super horny high school shows, i think there is appeal in hormone flood period of youth, but also you may be a weird pedo who needs to get your life together. if youre older and like only extelremely horny shows depicting older people youre also weird why are you so horny??
Jun 24, 2022 5:28 PM

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Because I know the difference between a drawing and a real person. Only someone really fucked up in the head would let their attraction to anime girls turn into an attraction towards real highschool age or younger girls.

It's not nearly as bad as sexualizing actual child actors or actors portraying underage characters.
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you mention not being able to watch shows you liked as a teenager due to their over the top horny portrayals of teenagers. SAME but this seems fine to me, if youre a teenager i think it would be weirder to be horny for 30 yr olds.

there are shows that portray younger characters, your highschool slice of life stuff, without being so damn horny, and those are nice and comfy.

if youre older and like the super horny high school shows, i think there is appeal in hormone flood period of youth, but also you may be a weird pedo who needs to get your life together. if youre older and like only extelremely horny shows depicting older people youre also weird why are you so horny??


Honestly I'm fine with super horny adult shows. Not really my thing, but at least it isn't pedo bait and I get people being horny. Honestly a big part of it is that everyone involved in actually making anime is an adult so it feels super gross to think about how all these adults are creating pedo bait
Jun 24, 2022 5:29 PM

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When you say "Why do we accept", are you implying there's something that should be done about it? And if yes what exactly?
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Jun 24, 2022 5:31 PM
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chuuNTRon said:
When you say "Why do we accept", are you implying there's something that should be done about it? And if yes what exactly?


Something as simple as not watching anime that objectifies children if you are an adult and not recommending crazy horny pedo bait to anime newcomers.
Jun 24, 2022 5:33 PM

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Are you talking about loli or underage chars? They are quite different.
Jun 24, 2022 5:38 PM

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I've noticed that psychological anime usually aren't that bad about fanservice and whatnot. I really don't like fanservice so I tend to stick to the elitist side of anime
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EdgyLord666 said:
Are you talking about loli or underage chars? They are quite different.


Objectified underage characters and objectified characters that are intentionally meant to look underage
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I just don't get why most anime fans aren't more concerned by this. I straight up cannot watch a lot of the stuff I liked when I was a teenager because now that I'm an adult I do not want to see high school girls' bodies on display. It's frankly weird how this is so common and isn't considered pedophilic by anime fans. We just accept this, but I don't get why. Why is loli an acceptable term when it's just disgusting?
We "accept" it cause we can't do anything about it. It's not like a petition to stop it will change how Japan works.
If you have any ideas, do let me know.

If you don't like it, don't watch it... simple as that.


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RealIllusions said:
chuuNTRon said:
When you say "Why do we accept", are you implying there's something that should be done about it? And if yes what exactly?


Something as simple as not watching anime that objectifies children if you are an adult and not recommending crazy horny pedo bait to anime newcomers.
I can't imagine making those recommendations, but people who want to aren't going to stop watching it as long as it's there. They're not concerned because they view it as unrelated to whatever issues you're linking it to.
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RealIllusions said:
rian9x said:
you mention not being able to watch shows you liked as a teenager due to their over the top horny portrayals of teenagers. SAME but this seems fine to me, if youre a teenager i think it would be weirder to be horny for 30 yr olds.

there are shows that portray younger characters, your highschool slice of life stuff, without being so damn horny, and those are nice and comfy.

if youre older and like the super horny high school shows, i think there is appeal in hormone flood period of youth, but also you may be a weird pedo who needs to get your life together. if youre older and like only extelremely horny shows depicting older people youre also weird why are you so horny??


Honestly I'm fine with super horny adult shows. Not really my thing, but at least it isn't pedo bait and I get people being horny. Honestly a big part of it is that everyone involved in actually making anime is an adult so it feels super gross to think about how all these adults are creating pedo bait
a lot of them are just professionals trying to make a living. some of them are weird pedos.

i think the fact it is taboo and shameful is both a draw of it /and/ the mechanism that limits its proliferation into the real world.
Jun 24, 2022 5:54 PM
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Because some of the designs of high school characters don't match actual depictions of teenagers. Some of them look more grown than they actually are. If you're bothered by it simply don't watch it. It's not even meant for adults in the first place.
Jun 24, 2022 6:02 PM

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Because most anime fans are perverts and hypocrites that can't think beyond their own lust nor something simple like how fiction reflects and influences reality.

I don't really care what deranged content people consume, but the "it's just fiction bro" argument is beyond stupid. It's just an easy excuse for people who don't want to think too hard about it (and that's fine, you do you, but it's still a stupid argument).
Jun 24, 2022 6:13 PM

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Because they’re not real. (There’s real pedos and groomers out there why are people so focused on cartoons).
Plus Shotas and lolis are based.
Jun 24, 2022 6:14 PM

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Because the industry knows that most of its audience is comprised of degenerates and pedos

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Because most anime fans are perverts and hypocrites that can't think beyond their own lust nor something simple like how fiction reflects and influences reality.

I don't really care what deranged content people consume, but the "it's just fiction bro" argument is beyond stupid. It's just an easy excuse for people who don't want to think too hard about it (and that's fine, you do you, but it's still a stupid argument).


Indeed.
Jun 24, 2022 6:16 PM
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You even said yourself you used to like it as a teenager so what's the problem suddenly? Just watch stuff that is targeted at your age.


Yeah, pretty much this. As I got older I moved on from a lot of overwhelming fanservice and the likes. Which wasn't much of an area of interest for me to begin with.

Adults still fixating on Loli/con, moe, etc. just make it easy on who to stay away from these days.
Jun 24, 2022 6:20 PM

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OP expects Japanese culture and society to completely reform itself after posting in a MAL forum. What a hero.
Jun 24, 2022 6:54 PM

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Steps to become a pedophile:

1. Enjoy pedophilia (of any form) inside your mind.

2. Execute pedophilia actions in real life.

The definition of a pedophile is "a person who is sexually attracted to children."

The "it's just fictitious" is the obvious counter to any arguments against underage anime characters. However:

- You may claim that you only enjoy fictitious teens but deep within you, you may actually enjoy teens in general yourself. You just haven't tried to experience how you might look at teens in real life yet. If this is the case, then busted. You're a pedophile.

- You may actually enjoy underage people of any form. It's just that you only enjoy it through perception and not action. If this is the case, then you are still a pedophile. After all, the definition of a pedophile is?

Still, this is basically kind of fine. If you keep it a secret, nobody knows and nobody is harmed. Nothing changes because what goes on inside your head is just a you-you.

- Not everybody can differentiate between fictitious and reality.

I think the answer to your question would be because so many people use the "it's just fictitious" counter regardless whether of they actually have the will to differentiate between fictitious and reality or not, and because so many people accept it, it just becomes a "whatever" topic. It's like watching anime on an illegal website (pirating). If one person does it, they'll probably get caught EZ. If millions of people does it, why bother catching every single one of them when the number of people doing it just keeps growing and growing?
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Western anime "fans" are the most fucking annoying "people" on the planet.
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Anime is the last thing I can take seriously. There's nothing to be concerned about if I could care less in the first place. There's real issues to worry about and anime ain't on my list.

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ryo-san said:

I'm a ara ara onee sama/ milf person...so I'm not okay with lolis being objectified...


Same here. Loli's weird me out tbh. Milfs are superior and way better. I look down on loli enthusiasts
Jun 24, 2022 7:12 PM
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Because I understand that Japan isnt america and theyre a totally different country with a totally different culture and ideals. I feel like it would be ignorant and self centered of me to look at them and say they're wrong and my country is right because we objectify 18 plus year olds while they objectify 14 plus year olds. They're a different country it is what it is. Just because im american nd we do shit differently doesnt mean that were right and theyre wrong etc. Age of consent is just some bullshit number people in power make up to tell you how mature you should be to fuck with someone in their 20s. Theres no god given or earth ruling idea of it its just a number some old guy with the power to do so set. So yeah thats how I always looked at it.
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Western anime "fans" are the most fucking annoying "people" on the planet.


bro hentai was literally banned in your country, chill out. Australia is effectively part of the “western world” in terms of social and political customs.

Per the actual thread discussion, imo it’s only a real problem if the character in question looks/acts like a young child. The viewer’s age is also worth considering, but the truth is that the drawing/animating process always involves adults who chose to make a child look sexy.
Jun 24, 2022 7:21 PM
You're an adult now. Learn how to separate reality from fiction.

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I still wouldn't ever let you be in charge of or left alone with children if you love watching sexual depictions of children whether it be fictional or otherwise. It's not some weird quirk, it's very disturbing if you're not also a child


Ok boomer.
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Jun 24, 2022 7:29 PM

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because nearly everyone who watches anime is a pedo in one way or another. i mean look at how many people are defending it here lmfao. gross
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ZechTearz said:
Western anime "fans" are the most fucking annoying "people" on the planet.


bro hentai was literally banned in your country, chill out. Australia is effectively part of the “western world” in terms of social and political customs.

Per the actual thread discussion, imo it’s only a real problem if the character in question looks/acts like a young child. The viewer’s age is also worth considering, but the truth is that the drawing/animating process always involves adults who chose to make a child look sexy.


What? The Australian government are not anime fans, and they are definitely annoying westerners too. My point is that if this existing in your media makes you so upset that you need to shitpost on forums about it, then anime is not for you, and you need to stop engaging with it. You are not entitled to anything.
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Oh yeah I love me some loli cunny, best thing there is out there.
Jun 24, 2022 8:07 PM

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just avoid watching loli anime? idk.
Jun 24, 2022 8:37 PM
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be sure to let me know how your efforts to change that are seen through

maybe you should put some effort into getting some bitches
or dicks, I don't discriminate
Jun 24, 2022 8:37 PM

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There are always two main kinds of non-thinkers in this type of discussion.

Person 1: "It's just fiction bro"

Person 2: "Ur a pedo bro"
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Because most anime fans are perverts and hypocrites that can't think beyond their own lust nor something simple like how fiction reflects and influences reality.

I don't really care what deranged content people consume, but the "it's just fiction bro" argument is beyond stupid. It's just an easy excuse for people who don't want to think too hard about it (and that's fine, you do you, but it's still a stupid argument).
This one specifically gets fixated on, but do you believe this applies to all the unsavory fetishes? Incest, ero guro, "forced" fantasies, etc. I don't deny these things have an effect, but not everyone is going to turn into a criminal from exposure to these things. "It's just fiction" to most people; the issue is people who have a penchant for breaking social norms rather than using the fantasy to satisfy their impulses.
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doesn’t really bother me since I don’t even see anime characters as real people, so I’d be more afraid of being attracted to a drawing in general before I start worrying about their age
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Uh because most anime is for the pubescents who are horny af. Also I don't know. They're 2D paper. If I don't like it. I fuck off.
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RealIllusions said:
I just don't get why most anime fans aren't more concerned by this. I straight up cannot watch a lot of the stuff I liked when I was a teenager because now that I'm an adult I do not want to see high school girls' bodies on display. It's frankly weird how this is so common and isn't considered pedophilic by anime fans. We just accept this, but I don't get why. Why is loli an acceptable term when it's just disgusting?


Idk, maybe because attraction to postpubescent teenagers... wait for it... ISN'T PEDOPHILIA?? Granted, it may be "creepy," and acting on said attraction is likely prohibited by various perfectly reasonable laws meant to protect real individuals in that age range. But something can be creepy, wrong, or even illegal without being pedophilia. But when it comes to fictional characters who aren't exploited or harmed by the making of the material, what's the big deal? Especially since the majority of "highschool girls on display" are in situations involving peers in their own age range, not interacting with older male characters to cater to age-gap fantasies. I mean, is it "pedophilic" for a boy in highschool to be attracted to his classmates now?

Frankly, it's more unnatural to pretend that human sexuality works like a lightswitch that instantly flips from "off" to "on when characters turn 18 or graduate from highschool, whichever comes later. And if the age of consent gets raised to 21 or 25 (as I'm sure some factions would like to do), does attraction to people in the 18-20/18-25 age range suddenly get redefined as "pedophilia??

Also, I started watching anime on a regular basis when I was 21, and I don't have a problem watching the same kinds of stuff I did back then, even ~20 years later. (Maybe that's the distinction: "If it was 'wrong' for me to like it back then, it's still 'wrong' now, so what's the difference?") If you don't feel comfortable doing the same, that's fine, but it doesn't mean that others are sick or deviant for doing so.

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Jun 24, 2022 9:09 PM

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People who say "I know the difference between a drawing and a real person" are total bullshit.

They gain pleasure from the most disgusting things and still believe they're innocent?
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Because littil tiddies are best most sensitive tiddies. I'd smash a loli and shota both, even if it turns me into a real ped. Nippon is a free country, they reject your depravity.
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I love Yaoi Shota Incest, I won't be stopped of fapping to it

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Oh yeah I love me some loli cunny, best thing there is out there.

Based confidence, hickory dickory dock, smooch some cunny and shota cock.
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For all the people saying I want to change Japanese norms, I do not. Normal Japanese adults do not watch that kind of anime and are looked down on by society if they do. Second, I merely wish to change how western anime fans interact with these kinds of animes, and at least realize that it's creepy and weird at minimum.
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I just can't take anyone seriously who throws around the word 'pedophilia' without even knowing what it means, just because it's a buzzword. If you're gonna rant at least know what you're talking about ffs.

I probably regret this post by now.
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I just can't take anyone seriously who throws around the word 'pedophilia' without even knowing what it means, just because it's a buzzword. If you're gonna rant at least know what you're talking about ffs.


Basically this^.
Also it feels much more confortable to use hyperbole on the internet where it doesn't directly impact interpersonal relationships. How would you judge a person who views this stuff irl in your circle? would you try and be a bit more nuanced to maintain interpersonal relations? It's doubtful you yourself truly believe in this, like making this thread is a rant about your personal dislike lol
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The target audience is the underage so it caters to them. For people age 12-18, it's legal, for over, it probably isn't intended for you.

Do you really think 12 yo japanese boys buy extremely expensive pedo bait DVDs and dakimakuras? ^_-
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Deathko said:

Do you really think 12 yo japanese boys buy extremely expensive pedo bait DVDs and dakimakuras? ^_-

It's japan we're talking about....
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