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| Do you think morally unacceptable things like rape , incest, phedophile and other same type of things should not be present in anime and only present on hentai. So one of my friend recently start watching anime and come in handy of anime include those ,he can't even think about it that those type of think even exist outside of porn and hentai . He says this type of think only look good in hentai and porn and if it present in other media it's simply disgusting and should be banned. What your opinion is it only stick to porn media or it's should present in such a way it's acceptable or any other opinion regarding sensitive topic? in anime |
aerolagroxNov 22, 2021 6:31 PM
| The most dangerous irony is, people are angry with others because of their own incompetence |
| I don’t think it should be banned at all, I think it should be present in anime as long as it’s done well (even then fuck censorship) but yeah as long as it’s fiction I see nothing wrong with it; but then again that’s just my view on it since I am able to distinguish fiction from reality |
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| I mean, it's a pretty ridiculous notion that only porn should be allowed to address controversial topics, don't you think? Obviously your friend is an idiot. |
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| Fiction should never be banned, it's nonsense treating fiction as if it should set a good moral example or some other nonsense. For the life of me I can't understand how sexualizing women or female characters is controversial, and is treated as if it's sexist and dehumanizing. Not only is it ironic because that very logic is sexist against females, but porn also exists, where you're one click away from an endless supply of seeing women treated like sex objects, so... talk about fucking pointless. |
| If you reply back to me and I never respond, I lost interest and don't care. Sorry about that. |
| Well I think. But It will not. Its their strategy for making money. They know there is some perverters in everybody and there is no person that will buy porn cd from store. And there they sell their anime which is has many that kind of cd. And most thing, even Japanese government support them. So you can't do anything. If you stop buying it will no matter bcz they have a huge market in Japan. |
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| The real problems in a society start when we begin sweeping all the horrible things we don't like under the rug and never discuss them instead of acknowledging they exist and doing something about them. These things exist in fiction so people will react to them and were designed that way on purpose. We see them and realize the world is a scary, disgusting cesspool and resolve ourselves to be the kind of person who doesn't make it any worse. |
KruszerNov 22, 2021 8:16 PM
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| The more controversial topics explored the better, not saying those shows will be good though(they still need a good writer use Redo of Healer for example) but eventually it will happen. |
| The second we start banning shit on the vague premise of being offensive is the day authors lose even more freedom when it comes to creating stories. I loathe Redo of a Healer, but I will absolutely defend it's ability to exist because the alternative is worse. Ya can't punish something like Redo of a Healer with sweeping changes without punishing Berserk. People mistake controversial topics with being problematic, just because something has rape in it doesn't suddenly mean rape cases are going to go up in the real world, I doubt even Redo of a Healer did that. |
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| Should it be banned? No. Does having it make it immune to criticism? Equally no. Like with any other story element, it's all about execution. |
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| No. I firmly believe banning this kind of content is basically the same as sweeping it under the rug and trying to forget it. You don't address problems by pretending they don't exist. Any rational person would see stuff like that, process how fucked up it is, and realize that shit should never be replicated in real life. And anyone who already had those thoughts in their head would likely follow through with it to some extent, regardless of whether a cartoon said its ok. |
FanofActionNov 22, 2021 9:14 PM
| Banning something because you find it offensive and disgusting is the very definition of censorship. Don't make the assumption that people on the internet can't discern fiction from reality. Controlling what people can and cannot create is also suppressing freedom of expression. |
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Otaku_garvit said: I mean if anime bugs you this much then stop watching it because you're automatically supporting it that way. Oh and without mentioning how stupid your comment isWell I think. But It will not. Its their strategy for making money. They know there is some perverters in everybody and there is no person that will buy porn cd from store. And there they sell their anime which is has many that kind of cd. And most thing, even Japanese government support them. So you can't do anything. If you stop buying it will no matter bcz they have a huge market in Japan. |
| " Shounen Nowadays Is Better Than Most Seinen In The Past 10 Years " - Sun Tzu  Also, Redline Is The Best Movie Mankind Ever Made |
| I just watched Mushoku Tensei a few days ago, I was honestly baffled, I hated it, I was disgusted by the plot, I absolutely despised the protagonist, it was just a very horrible experience in general and I gave it a one, despite all of that, I'd say leave it alone, because now we can detect actual weirdos and avoid them. |
| Now, I understand why some people hate newbies |
| " Shounen Nowadays Is Better Than Most Seinen In The Past 10 Years " - Sun Tzu Also, Redline Is The Best Movie Mankind Ever Made |
aerolagrox said: in some shows like berserk it is necessary Do you think morally unacceptable things like rape , incest, phedophile and other same type of things should not be present in anime and only present on hentai. So one of my friend recently start watching anime and come in handy of anime include those ,he can't even think about it that those type of think even exist outside of porn and hentai . He says this type of think only look good in hentai and porn and if it present in other media it's simply disgusting and should be banned. What your opinion is it only stick to porn media or it's should present in such a way it's acceptable or any other opinion regarding sensitive topic? in anime |
| It should not be banned since it is fiction. Immorality in media is ok. If you ban one thing it will lead a bad precedant for everything people dislike to be banned. I believe in freedom of speech and to create what you want in fiction. |
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| As long as its done in a mannered way and shows how deplorable it is. Am alright. But... if its rationalizing things like rape, pedo etc. than yeah. Its fucked up. |
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HottestCrabEver said: Otaku_garvit said: I mean if anime bugs you this much then stop watching it because you're automatically supporting it that way. Oh and without mentioning how stupid your comment isWell I think. But It will not. Its their strategy for making money. They know there is some perverters in everybody and there is no person that will buy porn cd from store. And there they sell their anime which is has many that kind of cd. And most thing, even Japanese government support them. So you can't do anything. If you stop buying it will no matter bcz they have a huge market in Japan. That why people call them weeb bcz they can't hear opposite side of anime.And for your knowledge rape ,phedophile is not a comedy scene. I am not against ecchi, I am against rape content. |
garvit_kunNov 22, 2021 11:43 PM
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| no, we should have more questionable content in anime |
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| i bet your friend loves watching porn and hentai |
aylarchan said: In mushoku tensei, only you give 1 because of this type of content or any other things you considered to scoring the show.I didn't mean to say you can't give 1 just because of this it's enough if you feel uncomfortable or simply disguist but I like to know if you considered any other point.I just watched Mushoku Tensei a few days ago, I was honestly baffled, I hated it, I was disgusted by the plot, I absolutely despised the protagonist, it was just a very horrible experience in general and I gave it a one, despite all of that, I'd say leave it alone, because now we can detect actual weirdos and avoid them. |
| The most dangerous irony is, people are angry with others because of their own incompetence |
Asturaetus said: what type of execution you are talking about, is it to sympathise the character or to develop its character or any other.can you give an exampleShould it be banned? No. Does having it make it immune to criticism? Equally no. Like with any other story element, it's all about execution. |
| The most dangerous irony is, people are angry with others because of their own incompetence |
aerolagrox said: Asturaetus said: what type of execution you are talking about, is it to sympathise the character or to develop its character or any other.can you give an exampleShould it be banned? No. Does having it make it immune to criticism? Equally no. Like with any other story element, it's all about execution. It all boils down how it fits into the narrative, presentation and intent. The question as an author you always have to ask yourself is: Why are doing something? What's the purpose behind this story element? What do you intend to communicate? And the audience will tell you if you were effective or not (and if they like it or not). And what you mentioned in regards to symathising with a character is one part of it. Are you using it to develop a character? How they are dealing with the aftermath, the trauma and helplessness, etc. Or are you just throwing it in there for cheap shock value. And you could very well used anything else and it wouldn't have made much of a difference. But it can also be framing or presentation. Are you presenting it with gratious shots? A lot of naked skin? Or do you focus on the victim show their pained expression. Nails diging into the back of perpetrator. Or maybe do it offscreen and you maybe just hear it. This also plays into which characters perspective you present it from - the victim or the perpetrator. Or how you contextualize it in the story. Do you try to communicate that the perpatator was in the right (maybe because he is the MC) or that it was something horrific. There are a lot of factors that come into play with execution. |
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| idk am i just wierd guy or something, if the media is take "in real life" like on film, porn, normal life.... im very-very hate those thing (pedophile, rape, incest, s&m, furries and other shit) even its a fiction story example film "Cuties" from Netflix, but if it's a joke I laugh because I'm the type of person who laughs at dark jokes. If the media is "animation" its kinda OK to me, so in my mind its like "do what ever you want i dont care". and yeah i watch hentai.... most all of them i like it (except furries). so in short if it's in the real world i hate it, but if it's animation it's ok. Sorry for bad grammar |
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| It's part of our world, there are not only bright sides. So it should also be included in media but not put in a positive way. It shouldn't be glorified. So it's a hard topic to add in any media and handled with care. |
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| Depends on how the series handles it, there's no need to entirely ban those subjects but if you are going to fetishize/romanticize such things then please keep that shit in your degenerate genres. |
| Yes, all those things, including extreme violence, sex scenes of any kind, and people smoking and drinking should be completely banned from all types of anime. |
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| These themes shouldn't be banned from anime. It's only when it's glorified that it becomes problematic. A clear example where it's done right is Perfect Blue. Sexual assault is present but not glamourized. |
| No Because I like anime like Redo of Healer. It would not exist if it get banned ALso, why rape should not exist in anime ? Because it hurts the feeling of feminazi and SJW ??! I can't think of good reason... If it hurts your feeling then you can always watch another anime instead of forcing everyone not to watch it. Some people enjoy rape fantasy.. or Some people enjoy realistic violent anime that has all kinds of violence that happens in real life |
thepathNov 23, 2021 7:46 AM
| And look at OP's forum picture. I don't need to take him seriously. |
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| Even if an anime encourages this behavior, there would be no reason to ban these things. Fiction is fiction, period. If someone takes offense, the problem is with them. I'm so tired of people attacking creators for not supporting LGBTQ communities, BLM and the like. It's sad to see how the world is becoming a big fat piece of snowflake, falling apart at the slightest thing. "Oh my god! X person said that there are only two genders! Let's attack them!" Everyone thinks what they want. Somehow, we have forgotten that and start witchhunts on a dily basis. I have no problem with the goals of these LGTBQ communities, but man, the individual people behind the cause are the worst I've seen on the planet. It's almost like want nothing but to drag people down with themselves. What I want to say with this is: fuck them and fuck people who can't separate fiction from reality and crave representation in said fiction, also because they feel it is tied to their lives directly. Also fuck them for ruining video games. Damn that felt good. |
| I don't think so. Media should be allowed to cover controversial things. It's artistic expression. |
| My waifu is the most wonderful waifu. Mai Valentine. We're freaking out that we're running out of time, but to do what? Should i stop and think of that? Is there something i could do to slow it down? Live in a day for once, instead of watch it sprinting by |
| It's fiction, who gives a shit. (30ch) |
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But, why exactly do you like that show? |
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Alcorin said: A lot of very crazy people, like the government of Saudi Arabia, China, Afghanistan, Russia and so on. It's a privilege to live in a liberal democracy with full freedom of speech and the arts, most humans don't have it.It's fiction, who gives a shit.(30ch) To celebrate free speech, I've voted "No this things make anime better same as I feel pleasure after masturbation". |
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| People that think it should be banned should just mind their own business. |
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| No there is no reason to ban something because of it's nature it depends more in ecxecution than the topic itself. A lot of movies,books and other media have touched sensitive topics before also banning something because you don't like it will give the impretion to other peoples that they can do the same which will lead to a really negative and closed minded way of thinking.To conclude touching sensitive and controversial topics is the best way to explore them and see why they are controversial but when we ignore or try to hide them you just don't accomplish something |
Asturaetus said: Thank you for your response I get it and maybe someday I can also look this type of details in fiction series .aerolagrox said: what type of execution you are talking about, is it to sympathise the character or to develop its character or any other.can you give an example It all boils down how it fits into the narrative, presentation and intent. The question as an author you always have to ask yourself is: Why are doing something? What's the purpose behind this story element? What do you intend to communicate? And the audience will tell you if you were effective or not (and if they like it or not). And what you mentioned in regards to symathising with a character is one part of it. Are you using it to develop a character? How they are dealing with the aftermath, the trauma and helplessness, etc. Or are you just throwing it in there for cheap shock value. And you could very well used anything else and it wouldn't have made much of a difference. But it can also be framing or presentation. Are you presenting it with gratious shots? A lot of naked skin? Or do you focus on the victim show their pained expression. Nails diging into the back of perpetrator. Or maybe do it offscreen and you maybe just hear it. This also plays into which characters perspective you present it from - the victim or the perpetrator. Or how you contextualize it in the story. Do you try to communicate that the perpatator was in the right (maybe because he is the MC) or that it was something horrific. There are a lot of factors that come into play with execution. |
| The most dangerous irony is, people are angry with others because of their own incompetence |
| where is the "context and presentation matters " option !?!? gta is a work of fiction.. killing people is a normal thing in gta.. killing isn't ok in real life but in gta we are bad people that's why its ok same if a anime is about a rapist... then rape is ok to be shown. .if its a crime thriller about catching a rapist... its still ok.. its only not ok when the story is set in the real world (not some different world were human rules and ethics are diff) and grape is glorified go watch handmaids tale if you think a good story cant be written around rape |
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| By erasing bad things from the media, you are not erasing them from real life. Just like forbidding to speak the N-word or calling women "bodies with vaginas" you are not eliminating racism and making trans people more accepted in society. |
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| My belief is that it shouldn't exist in hentai. Then again, I believe hentai shouldn't exist at all. |
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