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When it comes to the shojo area many of which are fluffy wholesome cute lighthearted stories.

But then there's a twist to some of them, Godchild,X/1999,Bananafish and Angel Sanctuary comes to mind and even romance stories as well could have its own sense of "edge" so to speak like Neji from Kaori Yuki. So it comes to show that not all "shojo" stuff is girl going after popular boy.

So yeah tldr is there any manga/anime under the shojo label that you think is pretty edgy?

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the sailor moon manga is pretty dark compared to the series, but i wouldn't call it edgy.
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Aside from obvious candidates like X, Utena, or Kaze to Ki no Uta...

The Unico movies are a lot edgier than the manga.
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well assuming we take edgy as just "bad series' that are dark" and not just any ol dark show like the buzzword it is, then the only shoujo's I can think of are Nanoka no Kare, Revenge Game and maybe Soredemo Bokura wa Koi wo Suru


though if we go full buzzword 'edgy' i.e., anything that is dark, then From Nightmare to Love and A Star Twinkles Above a Flower in Sodom would be included as well
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Nana. It's very mature and has its dark/edgy moments.



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Nayuta, Glass Mask, BokuImo, Vampire Princess Miyu, Alpen Rose, Lady Georgie, Andromeda Stories, Pygmalio cone to mind
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karekano is so edgy you won't believe, I recommend to anyone to stay away from the manga/anime
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Crow, you and I both know by now that Life belongs under this category lol




mangadere said:
the sailor moon manga is pretty dark compared to the series, but i wouldn't call it edgy.
Agreed, I'm glad someone else actually recognizes how messed up the original series actually is.
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Fario-P said:
Crow, you and I both know by now that Life belongs under this category lol




mangadere said:
the sailor moon manga is pretty dark compared to the series, but i wouldn't call it edgy.
Agreed, I'm glad someone else actually recognizes how messed up the original series actually is.


This was way before i was introduced to lntroduced toLife lol And its by far one of the best shojo manga ever to be created.

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Out of the ones I watched, I wouldn't consider any of them edgy. Some of them are just darker maybe than others.

BUT, I'm really concerned with how we're calling Banana Fish edgy.
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Outside of examples already highlighted, think Ayashi no Ceres (Ceres, Celestial Legend) and Oniisama E... (Dear Brother) would also fit the bill for dark shoujo titles as far as their story developments and themes goes.
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samashi20 said:
Out of the ones I watched, I wouldn't consider any of them edgy. Some of them are just darker maybe than others.

BUT, I'm really concerned with how we're calling Banana Fish edgy.


Late reply but fuck it i'm going through any old thread i think thats interesting and see what others think about it.

LOL, Bananafish is not Shadow The Edgehog, if you want Edgy try something from studio trigger or play The World Ends With You come to think of it, you should play The World Ends With You. The best kind of edge imo.

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Outside of examples already highlighted, think Ayashi no Ceres (Ceres, Celestial Legend) and Oniisama E... (Dear Brother) would also fit the bill for dark shoujo titles as far as their story developments and themes goes.


I forgot about these maybe i should give them a go.

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samashi20 said:
Out of the ones I watched, I wouldn't consider any of them edgy. Some of them are just darker maybe than others.

BUT, I'm really concerned with how we're calling Banana Fish edgy.


Late reply but fuck it i'm going through any old thread i think thats interesting and see what others think about it.

LOL, Bananafish is not Shadow The Edgehog, if you want Edgy try something from studio trigger or play The World Ends With You come to think of it, you should play The World Ends With You. The best kind of edge imo.
Since you recommended it, I would check it out. I like me some edge sometimes, edgy shoujo would be interesting to watch. Yeah Banana Fish was rather stabbing and tragic, no where near edgy.
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samashi20 said:
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Late reply but fuck it i'm going through any old thread i think thats interesting and see what others think about it.

LOL, Bananafish is not Shadow The Edgehog, if you want Edgy try something from studio trigger or play The World Ends With You come to think of it, you should play The World Ends With You. The best kind of edge imo.
Since you recommended it, I would check it out. I like me some edge sometimes, edgy shoujo would be interesting to watch. Yeah Banana Fish was rather stabbing and tragic, no where near edgy.


Oh you're going to love the world ends with you its a really great video game. And enjoy!!


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Crow_Black said:
This was way before i was introduced to lntroduced toLife lol And its by far one of the best shojo manga ever to be created.
yo now that you returned to this thread, would you consider Othello to be edgy in any way? i still need to finish reading that too



also yeah @samashi20 please play TWEWY, seriously don't bother with the anime adaptation for the love of the composer
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Fario-P said:
Crow_Black said:
This was way before i was introduced to lntroduced toLife lol And its by far one of the best shojo manga ever to be created.
yo now that you returned to this thread, would you consider Othello to be edgy in any way? i still need to finish reading that too



also yeah @samashi20 please play TWEWY, seriously don't bother with the anime adaptation for the love of the composer


Since i've read it not too long ago and since i'm such a huge visual kei stan along with Metropyramid.

Anything thats visual kei related is the good kind of edgy and that and visual prison are both stuff i really liked.

And also because of how much of a edgelord Nana is compared to her reserved counterpart Yaya. And it was just so zetta satisfying af seeing her just stand up to bullies.
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Fario-P said:
mangadere said:
the sailor moon manga is pretty dark compared to the series, but i wouldn't call it edgy.
Agreed, I'm glad someone else actually recognizes how messed up the original series actually is.
Old message but I must say Naoko Takeuchi planned Sailor moon to be a lot more edgy. There was some mini comics where she explained how Ami-chan was first in her drafts a robot that slowly breaks and how after the first arc everybody dies and stays dead. She called people behind 90's anime adaptation pussies for bringing the girls back at the end in s1 lmafo. Man I love that woman.

But my answers are The Bride of the Demon and Twilight Of The Dark Master. both are older ovas so they do follow same trends as shounen/seinen ovas, violence and sexual violence. If however we include yaoi oh boy, there are so many series that include some questionable content. There was some yaoi manga about a pastor who gets raped by a soldier, but he graves for the soldier's dick again and when he meets him after years the soldier had his dick cut off by te enemy so the pastor cries for losing such a great dick :DD
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Let me throw in a few more I'm missing in this thread:

https://myanimelist.net/anime/17513/Diabolik_Lovers + clones (see recs) (domination fetish)
https://myanimelist.net/anime/2621/Natsu_e_no_Tobira (reverse age gap + BL)
https://myanimelist.net/anime/2219/Ryokunohara_Meikyuu (dementia tag)


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josei is usually like shoujo but with added edge
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josei is usually like shoujo but with added edge
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Trinity Blood and 7SEEDS have some edginess to them.
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Banana Fish comes to mind, it's not your typical shoujo for sure.
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konkelo said:
Fario-P said:
Agreed, I'm glad someone else actually recognizes how messed up the original series actually is.
Old message but I must say Naoko Takeuchi planned Sailor moon to be a lot more edgy. There was some mini comics where she explained how Ami-chan was first in her drafts a robot that slowly breaks and how after the first arc everybody dies and stays dead. She called people behind 90's anime adaptation pussies for bringing the girls back at the end in s1 lmafo. Man I love that woman.
Oh yeah, heard about the original plan to Sailor Mercury a cyborg... but not the latter lmao, did she actually??
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Fario-P said:
konkelo said:
Old message but I must say Naoko Takeuchi planned Sailor moon to be a lot more edgy. There was some mini comics where she explained how Ami-chan was first in her drafts a robot that slowly breaks and how after the first arc everybody dies and stays dead. She called people behind 90's anime adaptation pussies for bringing the girls back at the end in s1 lmafo. Man I love that woman.
Oh yeah, heard about the original plan to Sailor Mercury a cyborg... but not the latter lmao, did she actually??


Takeuchi later said she planned to kill off the protagonists, but Osano rejected the notion and said, "[Sailor Moon] is a shōjo manga!" When the anime adaptation was produced, the protagonists were killed in the final battle with the Dark Kingdom, although they were revived. Takeuchi resented that she was unable to do that in her version.


I just looked this up in on the wikipedia page of Sailor Moon.

@Fario-P ah i getcha now think this is also the first time i heard about this as well
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Crow_Black said:
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Oh yeah, heard about the original plan to Sailor Mercury a cyborg... but not the latter lmao, did she actually??


Takeuchi later said she planned to kill off the protagonists, but Osano rejected the notion and said, "[Sailor Moon] is a shōjo manga!" When the anime adaptation was produced, the protagonists were killed in the final battle with the Dark Kingdom, although they were revived. Takeuchi resented that she was unable to do that in her version.


I just looked this up in on the wikipedia page of Sailor Moon.
Oh no, I knew that part too... I was referring to what @konkelo said about her response to the end of season 1
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Alcoholicide said:
Banana Fish comes to mind, it's not your typical shoujo for sure.


D.N Angel as well like Bananafish are also another shoujo that can also be appealing to guyz as well 2

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Fario-P said:
konkelo said:
Old message but I must say Naoko Takeuchi planned Sailor moon to be a lot more edgy. There was some mini comics where she explained how Ami-chan was first in her drafts a robot that slowly breaks and how after the first arc everybody dies and stays dead. She called people behind 90's anime adaptation pussies for bringing the girls back at the end in s1 lmafo. Man I love that woman.
Oh yeah, heard about the original plan to Sailor Mercury a cyborg... but not the latter lmao, did she actually??
Not in such a crude manner as I did but yes. I think I read it from a short comic extra, the ones where Naoko drew herself as a bunny. But I am unable atm to check was it an official translation or fantranslation.
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Lucifrost said:
Aside from obvious candidates like X, Utena, or Kaze to Ki no Uta...

The Unico movies are a lot edgier than the manga.


Still waiting for a reboot and complete ending of it to this day. And there is lot more CLAMP stuff that needs to be brought back to life as well too.
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Alcoholicide said:
Banana Fish comes to mind, it's not your typical shoujo for sure.


D.N Angel as well can also be considered as not a typical affair either. Its pretty shonen inspired as well too in story and artstyle.

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Let me throw in a few more I'm missing in this thread:

https://myanimelist.net/anime/17513/Diabolik_Lovers + clones (see recs) (domination fetish)
https://myanimelist.net/anime/2621/Natsu_e_no_Tobira (reverse age gap + BL)
https://myanimelist.net/anime/2219/Ryokunohara_Meikyuu (dementia tag)



Diabolik lovers boy..... that series is absoulte cancer and i regret watching it to this day.

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One of the edgiest and worst shoujo titles, both manga and anime. Manga goes to the limits of what constitutes "acceptable" incest



https://myanimelist.net/anime/819/Boku_wa_Imouto_ni_Koi_wo_Suru
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Mahou Shoujo Site, both the anime and manga, are edgy asf
Although, I prefer the manga because it actually has an ending unlike the anime


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I'm thinking of works that are not mentioned by name, but that I have read....

Darkness of the sea, shadow of the moon
Ao no Fuuin
Ryuu no Nemuru Hoshi
Kaguyahime
Top Secret
Kodomo no Omocha
Honey Bitter

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Hakuouki is pretty 3edgy5me (it's a josei but close enough)
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kihel said:
I'm thinking of works that are not mentioned by name, but that I have read....

Darkness of the sea, shadow of the moon

I would like to read that manga, but it does not yet have an English translation. How does it compare to Shinohara's other works? Do you recommend any in particular?

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Hakuouki is pretty 3edgy5me (it's a josei but close enough)

Having a plot is considered edgy?
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Lucifrost said:
kihel said:
I'm thinking of works that are not mentioned by name, but that I have read....

Darkness of the sea, shadow of the moon

I would like to read that manga, but it does not yet have an English translation. How does it compare to Shinohara's other works? Do you recommend any in particular?


Oh, there is no English translation? Since your favorite included Pygmalion, I figured that with Chie Shinohara's work, you would like this one the best. By the way, Pygmalion, although I didn't put it in my favorites, is my favorite work.

I found Darkness of the Sea and Shadow of the Moon "scarier" than the other works. Isn't it already "scary" from the cover? I would recommend to you, honestly, "Darkness of the Sea, Shadow of the Moon" as my first choice, followed by "Purple Eye of Darkness" and "Seal of Blue"... I think... If you like historical fantasy, "The Sky is Red by the River" might be a good choice. But the latest one, "Dream Drop, Golden Birdcage," is more of a romance or a female relationship game, so I think it has less horror elements.



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Crow_Black said:
When it comes to the shojo area many of which are fluffy wholesome cute lighthearted stories.

But then there's a twist to some of them, Godchild,X/1999,Bananafish and Angel Sanctuary comes to mind and even romance stories as well could have its own sense of "edge" so to speak like Neji from Kaori Yuki. So it comes to show that not all "shojo" stuff is girl going after popular boy.

So yeah tldr is there any manga/anime under the shojo label that you think is pretty edgy?


I think you are mistaking shojou to BL or Yaoi series lol. Its in the same vain how Yuri or Girl to girl is not shonen.

Angel Sanctuary is shojo, but Godchild and Banana Fish is straight up Yaoi and not shojo

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Angel Sanctuary is shojo, but Godchild and Banana Fish is straight up Yaoi and not shojo

Angel Sanctuary and God Child were serialized in the same magazine. Because girls are interested in both.
https://myanimelist.net/manga/magazine/21/Hana_to_Yume
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kihel said:
I'm thinking of works that are not mentioned by name, but that I have read....

Darkness of the sea, shadow of the moon
Ao no Fuuin
Ryuu no Nemuru Hoshi
Kaguyahime
Top Secret
Kodomo no Omocha
Honey Bitter


darkness of the sea shadow of the moon is so going on my list.

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All romance shoujo stuff is pretty edgy in the era of metoo isn't it? Like 99% of it is "oh no... the bishonen class president revealed his EDGY side and pressed me against the locker against my will and now he's blackmailing me and now I'm madly in love with him"
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samashi20 said:
Out of the ones I watched, I wouldn't consider any of them edgy. Some of them are just darker maybe than others.

BUT, I'm really concerned with how we're calling Banana Fish edgy.



Alcoholicide said:
Banana Fish comes to mind, it's not your typical shoujo for sure.


would Banana FIsh be considered Shojo tho ?
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kushmonatl said:
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Out of the ones I watched, I wouldn't consider any of them edgy. Some of them are just darker maybe than others.

BUT, I'm really concerned with how we're calling Banana Fish edgy.



Alcoholicide said:
Banana Fish comes to mind, it's not your typical shoujo for sure.


would Banana FIsh be considered Shojo tho ?

Yes. Shojo refers to the demographic, the target audience for Banana Fish is young females, so yes, it is a Shojo. The genre focuses on personal and romantic relationships. We can clearly see personal relationships in Banana Fish, so it is a shojo.
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kushmonatl said:
would Banana FIsh be considered Shojo tho ?

It was serialized in this magazine. I've not read most of these titles, but they look pretty shoujo to me.
https://myanimelist.net/manga/magazine/54/Betsucomi
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Lucifrost said:
kushmonatl said:
would Banana FIsh be considered Shojo tho ?

It was serialized in this magazine. I've not read most of these titles, but they look pretty shoujo to me.
https://myanimelist.net/manga/magazine/54/Betsucomi


its a good anime

it does have some boy love elements , i guess it can be considered shojo
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kushmonatl said:
samashi20 said:
Out of the ones I watched, I wouldn't consider any of them edgy. Some of them are just darker maybe than others.

BUT, I'm really concerned with how we're calling Banana Fish edgy.



Alcoholicide said:
Banana Fish comes to mind, it's not your typical shoujo for sure.


would Banana FIsh be considered Shojo tho ?


Yeah i would see bananafish as a shojo and a gay one as well too but with lots of crime elements to make it appeal to shonen fans.

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Hakuouki is pretty 3edgy5me (it's a josei but close enough)


welp i still have yet to play those visual novels.

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Ayashi no Ceres is the series that comes to my mind.
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