silversaint said: Rudy Giuliani (you know the guy from Borat 2) claims that they will be showing evidence of fraud tomorrow... so i guess Trump supporters you might have a chance, that being said its Trump an he lies a lot so don't get too much hope on this Trump fans will overdose on copium on mass at by the time we get to see it. But sure...let's see what they got, I'm having too much fun over all of this. |
jennicide said: When are they announcing Kamala Harris as President? Trump is what, 3 years younger than Biden? Wow, such youth, such health, wow. Wait he almost died of covid hoax, but that's ok. |
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jennicide said: Hopefully VP is the end of the road for her career in politics-- I can see her going SCOTUS afterwards and it wouldn't be a crazy notion.When are they announcing Kamala Harris as President? silversaint said: Funny, the fraud claims they presented to the courts already were-- evident less. If the campaign team can do it, maybe they'll atleast salvage their reputation in courts. Rudy Giuliani (you know the guy from Borat 2) claims that they will be showing evidence of fraud tomorrow... so i guess Trump supporters you might have a chance, that being said its Trump an he lies a lot so don't get too much hope on this --ALEX-- said: Hm, hard to say. Most oppressed don't actually know the systems, mechanisms or grander plan of how they were oppressed. Many "Latinos" (I have qualm with the word as an identifier for the group but not a problem with the group? which is why its in quotations) in higher education learn how, and even that isn't the same as experiencing the policies enacted in the country of origin, while also saying how many aren't in higher education to learn such things. Yes, I was VERY disappointed in Florida. Cuban Americans are nuts to me...they voted for Trump in huge numbers because they literally believe Biden is an actual Socialist that will turn the U.S into Cuba. These people are ignorant to highly degrees. Its sad cause it causes a semi-division between the younger generation and their elders, so there voting style is expected. Especially the way the people were grouped and micro-targeted with fearmongering designed on those experiences. Don't be too hard on them. |
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--ALEX-- said: JFuji said: Well you got your win my friend. Congratulations. Although it must've bothered you to see Florida not only remain red, but to see people that share your ethnicity leave your side in droves. Regardless, the next 4 years won't change much for us, just like it didn't in the previous 4. I will admit that I will miss your passionate rants and you shouting people down on this board with you capitalizing every other word in your posts. You did go a bit off the deep end during this election cycle but you have always been a treasured member of current events. ~ Warmest regards, Ayotunde Ndiaye Yes, I was VERY disappointed in Florida. Cuban Americans are nuts to me...they voted for Trump in huge numbers because they literally believe Biden is an actual Socialist that will turn the U.S into Cuba. These people are ignorant to highly degrees. Aside from Cubans and maybe Venezuelans every other Hispanic group voted for Biden in BIG numbers. In fact, once all the votes are counted I believe the Latin vote in Arizona and Georgia will be BIG factors why Biden won those states. It’s really not surprising since the Democrats courted the far left for their vote, giving the impression they supported their radical socialist views. |
Ghemotoc said: jennicide said: When are they announcing Kamala Harris as President? Trump is what, 3 years younger than Biden? Wow, such youth, such health, wow. Wait he almost died of covid hoax, but that's ok. Biden has obvious signs of cognitive decline. Kamala will replace him, mark my words. |
jennicide said: --ALEX-- said: Yes, I was VERY disappointed in Florida. Cuban Americans are nuts to me...they voted for Trump in huge numbers because they literally believe Biden is an actual Socialist that will turn the U.S into Cuba. These people are ignorant to highly degrees. Aside from Cubans and maybe Venezuelans every other Hispanic group voted for Biden in BIG numbers. In fact, once all the votes are counted I believe the Latin vote in Arizona and Georgia will be BIG factors why Biden won those states. It’s really not surprising since the Democrats courted the far left for their vote, giving the impression they supported their radical socialist views. Please! I’m sure in your eyes I would be a “socialist” since I was a Bernie supporter and I want Medicare for all, $15 minimum wage, and more serious change. I voted for Biden to get rid of Trump...NOT because I think Biden is the “best” choice. The BEST choice was Bernie. Anyone who thinks the U.S is gonna turn socialist under Biden is a fucking IDIOT! like literally fucking stupid. |
--ALEX-- said: jennicide said: It’s really not surprising since the Democrats courted the far left for their vote, giving the impression they supported their radical socialist views. Please! I’m sure in your eyes I would be a “socialist” since I was a Bernie supporter and I want Medicare for all, $15 minimum wage, and more serious change. I voted for Biden to get rid of Trump...NOT because I think Biden is the “best” choice. The BEST choice was Bernie. Anyone who thinks the U.S is gonna turn socialist under Biden is a fucking IDIOT! like literally fucking stupid. "I’m sure in your eyes I would be a “socialist” since I was a Bernie supporter and I want Medicare for all, $15 minimum wage, and more serious change." Those are Social Democratic policies, and Social Democracy is a form of Socialism. Also America won't be able to get Universal healthcare (which is what medicare for all is???), since there is no common identity among Americans. Modern day America is more similar to Austria-Hungary, than it is to 1950s America. So when a country has many nationalities, they don't feel a sense of unity and commonality among their fellow countrymen, people won't want to pay for a comprehensive welfare state that helps people different from them. |
deg said: RunescapeIsGreat said: Those are Social Democratic policies, and Social Democracy is a form of Socialism. social democracy is social capitalism this is like saying if socialism or capitalism in social democracy is half full or half empty So Social Democracy has elements of Capitalism and Socialism. |
--ALEX-- said: jennicide said: It’s really not surprising since the Democrats courted the far left for their vote, giving the impression they supported their radical socialist views. Please! I’m sure in your eyes I would be a “socialist” since I was a Bernie supporter and I want Medicare for all, $15 minimum wage, and more serious change. I voted for Biden to get rid of Trump...NOT because I think Biden is the “best” choice. The BEST choice was Bernie. Anyone who thinks the U.S is gonna turn socialist under Biden is a fucking IDIOT! like literally fucking stupid. The fact that you think Bernie was the best choice, the guy who got backstabbed TWICE by the DNC and he still bent over for them, makes you an idiot. We all know the best choice was Jeb! |
jennicide said: --ALEX-- said: Please! I’m sure in your eyes I would be a “socialist” since I was a Bernie supporter and I want Medicare for all, $15 minimum wage, and more serious change. I voted for Biden to get rid of Trump...NOT because I think Biden is the “best” choice. The BEST choice was Bernie. Anyone who thinks the U.S is gonna turn socialist under Biden is a fucking IDIOT! like literally fucking stupid. The fact that you think Bernie was the best choice, the guy who got backstabbed TWICE by the DNC and he still bent over for them, makes you an idiot. We all know the best choice was Jeb! Alex is the bigger Left wing nut hugger on these boards. He's made countless anti Trump threads for his entire term. He calls Latino's idiots for voting for Trump yet the irony is the Latino's who voted for Trump in high numbers have more sense than a majority of the country who voted Biden. Latino's especially Cubans know how to sniff out a socialist. |
Zeroflamez said: jennicide said: The fact that you think Bernie was the best choice, the guy who got backstabbed TWICE by the DNC and he still bent over for them, makes you an idiot. We all know the best choice was Jeb! Alex is the bigger Left wing nut hugger on these boards. He's made countless anti Trump threads for his entire term. He calls Latino's idiots for voting for Trump yet the irony is the Latino's who voted for Trump in high numbers have more sense than a majority of the country who voted Biden. Latino's especially Cubans know how to sniff out a socialist. lmao imagine thinking any American big politician isn't right wing by any rest of the world standard lmao That's why Europe laughs at you every time you open your mouth to talk about stuff like healthcare lmao |
RunescapeIsGreat said: --ALEX-- said: Please! I’m sure in your eyes I would be a “socialist” since I was a Bernie supporter and I want Medicare for all, $15 minimum wage, and more serious change. I voted for Biden to get rid of Trump...NOT because I think Biden is the “best” choice. The BEST choice was Bernie. Anyone who thinks the U.S is gonna turn socialist under Biden is a fucking IDIOT! like literally fucking stupid. "I’m sure in your eyes I would be a “socialist” since I was a Bernie supporter and I want Medicare for all, $15 minimum wage, and more serious change." Those are Social Democratic policies, and Social Democracy is a form of Socialism. Also America won't be able to get Universal healthcare (which is what medicare for all is???), since there is no common identity among Americans. Modern day America is more similar to Austria-Hungary, than it is to 1950s America. So when a country has many nationalities, they don't feel a sense of unity and commonality among their fellow countrymen, people won't want to pay for a comprehensive welfare state that helps people different from them. lmao American don't want healthcare because half of them are literally conditioned to think that stuff that any first world country has like gun control and healthcare are "communism", not realizing they share more in common with third world African countries at this point when it comes to taking care of theier citizens lmao |
Code_Geass9 said: Zeroflamez said: Alex is the bigger Left wing nut hugger on these boards. He's made countless anti Trump threads for his entire term. He calls Latino's idiots for voting for Trump yet the irony is the Latino's who voted for Trump in high numbers have more sense than a majority of the country who voted Biden. Latino's especially Cubans know how to sniff out a socialist. lmao imagine thinking any American big politician isn't right wing by any rest of the world standard lmao That's why Europe laughs at you every time you open your mouth to talk about stuff like healthcare lmao Ah yes, Europe The rotting carcass of the world trying to hold on to relevancy since losing its empires after 2 world wars. Don’t worry, it’s China’s time to shine now. |
jennicide said: --ALEX-- said: Please! I’m sure in your eyes I would be a “socialist” since I was a Bernie supporter and I want Medicare for all, $15 minimum wage, and more serious change. I voted for Biden to get rid of Trump...NOT because I think Biden is the “best” choice. The BEST choice was Bernie. Anyone who thinks the U.S is gonna turn socialist under Biden is a fucking IDIOT! like literally fucking stupid. The fact that you think Bernie was the best choice, the guy who got backstabbed TWICE by the DNC and he still bent over for them, makes you an idiot. We all know the best choice was Jeb! I’m not a fucking Democrat....I fucking Hate the DNC. They are the embodiment of the establishment that has made this country insufferable. Bernie ran as a Democrat because he has no choice, we live in a 2-party political system. In reality, he’s an Independent and his views do NOT align with the Democratic Party. What we need is a REAL Left wing party in America...and the pathetic Democrats can become the new Republicans. All you Trump Supporters melting down makes me laugh... Mostly because you think Biden is a Leftist when he’s not. I WISH Biden was the things you THINK he is. |
ItachiIsGod said: Crawlie said: I am a retard who thinks I am cool because I troll people on the internet with overused memes. I still have a shitty life and even my parents hate me. Yea yea okay kid I will save that copium for you in December Just like daddy trump you cant accept an obvious loss lol  |
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Code_Geass9 said: jennicide said: Ah yes, Europe The rotting carcass of the world trying to hold on to relevancy since losing its empires after 2 world wars. Don’t worry, it’s China’s time to shine now. lmao imagine calling an entire continent of first world countries a carcass lmao or bitching about war when america was in that too, it's called WORLD WAR for a reason lmao didn't they teach you in school or American education is really that bad ahah Tt least our citizen don't have to hold two jobs to buy insulin lmao Oh don't worry, Canada and Japan laugh at you too every time some dumb dude shoots a school because some girls rejected him lol A world war that Europe started twice? Yeah, you guys just have to worry about getting decapitated, run over, blown up, stabbed and shot by extremists over there. See I can do that too. |
| @Code_Geass9 "lmao imagine calling an entire continent of first world countries a carcass" It is only Northwestern European countries that are first world, not the entirety of Europe. "least our citizen don't have to hold two jobs to buy insulin" Why is that? California tried to get Universal Healthcare, yet they couldn't afford it, even though they have a bigger economy than Britain. Western countries will eventually lose their universal healthcare and welfare states, as the west become less and less cohesive, as there isn't enough productive tax payers paying into the system without taking so much out of the system (welfare, government housing, universal healthcare, pensions). I have right wing views because I don't want to lose my welfare state, I don't want to be without universal healthcare. |
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| Guys I gotta find the video that shows MAGA Chuds a few days before the election literally predicting that Trump was gonna win in a landslide and possibly picking up 40 or more states. Like, they were NOT joking or memeing either. Tim Pool was one of these retarded individuals...holy shit, it is fucking gold! When I find a good video, I’ll share it....it’s soooo good! |
| https://www.yahoo.com/tech/m/528a0c52-5920-309f-80c6-f3d3ad512f47/biden%E2%80%99s-choice-for-his.html here we go. country on a downhill path |
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Kayle_x_Morgana said: https://www.yahoo.com/tech/m/528a0c52-5920-309f-80c6-f3d3ad512f47/biden%E2%80%99s-choice-for-his.html here we go. country on a downhill path America has been on a downhill path since 1960. However that article is absurd, people should be hired based on merit. |
RunescapeIsGreat said: Kayle_x_Morgana said: https://www.yahoo.com/tech/m/528a0c52-5920-309f-80c6-f3d3ad512f47/biden%E2%80%99s-choice-for-his.html here we go. country on a downhill path America has been on a downhill path since 1960. However that article is absurd, people should be hired based on merit. How is "Former US Surgeon General" not enough merit for a pandemic task force? This is what happens when people don't read past the title of an article and immediately knee-jerk to a reactionary stance. |
GamerDLMNov 9, 2020 2:31 PM
| Why is this thread still alive? Lol at the people trying to bash Europe to feel better. Imagine living in a place where poor people are not left to die when they have a health issue. Seems like Hell I know... Amusing too to see people still calling Biden a socialist or even a communist, that shows how well the anti-left propaganda worked in the US. |
Zlyiond said: Meusnier said: Why is this thread still alive? Lol at the people trying to bash Europe to feel better. Imagine living in a place where poor people are not left to die when they have a health issue. Seems like Hell I know... Amusing too to see people still calling Biden a socialist or even a communist, that shows how well the anti-left propaganda worked in the US. Election threads are alive until the president is sworn in. At least, that's what I think. And oh, communism in America was heavily looked down upon since the cold-war, so that may have to dp with it. I see, thank you for your reply. Amusing that the one four years ago had about 600 replies if I recall correctly. Of course, but what is called socialism in Europe has nothing to do with this frightening idea people seem to have in the United States of America since the Cold War. What does "dp" mean? |
RunescapeIsGreat said: Imagine a trump voter saying that. With the likes of Betsy Devos, Stephen Miller, Jared Kushner, Chad Wolfe, John Ratcliffe, Bill Barr, and others, in office currently. These threads have been great comedic reliefs these past couple of days.Kayle_x_Morgana said: https://www.yahoo.com/tech/m/528a0c52-5920-309f-80c6-f3d3ad512f47/biden%E2%80%99s-choice-for-his.html here we go. country on a downhill path America has been on a downhill path since 1960. However that article is absurd, people should be hired based on merit. |
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Zlyiond said: Meusnier said: I see, thank you for your reply. Amusing that the one four years ago had about 600 replies if I recall correctly. Of course, but what is called socialism in Europe has nothing to do with this frightening idea people seem to have in the United States of America since the Cold War. What does "dp" mean? Given America's education, they probably equate communism with socialism, and I'm not even being saratistical when I'm saying this. And I meant to 'do with it', "dp" was a typo. I also heard that a few times, so it does not indeed look satirical. I should have assumed that... Internet slang makes me doubt these days. |
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| The results of any elections in the USA shouldn't come too surprising and are much rather always directed It is not a coincidence that Skull and Bones members like the two former Bush presidents had won the presidency in the past To me, it feels like the ones who have power had purposefully selected Donald J. Trump and now Joe Biden Trump is like "the rebellious candidate" that did the whole "America first" and has made amazing progress with the peace process in the Middle East, particularly when it comes to Israel It is not a coincidence that under the Trump administration, you can find Mnuchin as his finance minister and Schwarzman as his former advisor Oddly enough, the part about Mnuchin seems to have been replaced in this article: https://webcache.googleusercontent.com/search?q=cache:bd9kC7o95HUJ:https://www.businessinsider.com/most-powerful-members-yale-skull-and-bones-2017-3+&cd=1&hl=en&ct=clnk&gl=en George W. Bush, also a Skull and Bones member, has pretty much announced the decision and outcome of the election: https://www.bushcenter.org/about-the-center/newsroom/press-releases/2020/11/president-george-w-bush-statement-joe-biden.html Basically, Trump is allowed to be portrayed as the "rebel" and may win some counties or states more in the election, but in the end, the result has been predetermined to make Joe Biden win, just how it was predetermined to make Bush win and how it was predetermined to make Trump win Now I think that Joe Biden has been sent to do some damage control with regards to the poor Covid-19 reaction and the stronger isolation with some of Americas strategic partners in the world Interesting will be much more who will be the president for 2024: either the "rebellious" "Trump card" again or Harris, who will likely be prepared to be the first woman president (whose husband is of Jewish origin). Though it's very possible that Harris will get to be president in 2028 and then in 2032, if she performs well enough Harris has an actual chance, unlike Hillary Clinton, whose role was it to just play the candidate of "the establishment" to make it seem like someone from outside would have won the previous elections against the establishment, when in truth, it's been always "the establishment" who gets to decide the president and they will influence public opinion. It's not a coincidence that Trump was successful with his smear campaign against Hillary Clinton, but not against Joe Biden with the media being supportive of Donald Trump during his first campaign: According to an article in the Columbia Journalism Review, “in just six days, The New York Times ran as many cover stories about Hillary Clinton’s emails as they did about all policy issues combined in the 69 days leading up to the election.” Mrs. Clinton lost the election for myriad reasons, but it did not help that The Times’s coverage of this issue reinforced many voters’ suspicions that she was untrustworthy. Jeffrey Toobin, chief legal analyst for CNN, apologized this week for hyping the email story during that crucial moment. If The Times wants to regain the trust of its readers heading into 2020, it should do the same. https://www.nytimes.com/2019/10/24/opinion/letters/clinton-emails-giuliani-trump-war.html Curiously, The New York Times outright rejected the story with Hunter Biden's laptop Also, unlike last time, big tech worked against Trump The media even cut him off, which is something unprecedented and further shows that he is being ostracized: https://www.nytimes.com/2020/11/05/business/media/trump-tv.html As for Trump: a realistic scenario would be for him to step down shortly before the inauguration of Biden and have president Pence pardon him, which will increase Trump's chances to get re-elected in 2024 if the elites decide for it. After all, Trump is still fairly popular and liked by many Americans edit: I'm surprised that no one else seems to have mentioned the connection to Skull and Bones Also, Trump is part of "the establishment" himself who has powerful "friends" like Rupert Murdoch He had allegedly called him in an angry voice, but the decision was already made, so Fox played along with the others in announcing Joe Biden as the President-elect I wonder if Trump realises himself that he is just a puppet of the "deep state" himself or whether he just successfully plays his role as "the rebel" |
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| Looks like most Japanese are glad Joe Biden win. |
| It doesn't matter if you like LoGH,Monster etc.If you are a jobless or college/school dropout living in your mom basement, you are still an unintelligent loser. Taste in anime does not make you a better person. |
Sourire said: RunescapeIsGreat said: Imagine a trump voter saying that. With the likes of Betsy Devos, Stephen Miller, Jared Kushner, Chad Wolfe, John Ratcliffe, Bill Barr, and others, in office currently. These threads have been great comedic reliefs these past couple of days.America has been on a downhill path since 1960. However that article is absurd, people should be hired based on merit. I'm not a Trump voter, I am English. And I don't think Trump should have given those unqualified people those positions, but at least he didn't give those people those positions based on diversity, as that means the state is favouring some groups over other groups. @GamerDLM Well then why isn't the article clearly talking about the person being hired being the former US Surgeon General, rather than talking about how people should be hired because of diversity and "that's a great thing". The average working man (who you leftists are supposed to represent, lol) want their important civil servants to be hired based on merit, so that the country is doing the best it can, why would they want people getting hired just because they are from the state favoured groups, which does lead to incompetence, since it isn't meritocratic, and is discrimination against the majority of Americans. |
RuneRemNov 10, 2020 3:04 AM
RunescapeIsGreat said: Sourire said: Imagine a trump voter saying that. With the likes of Betsy Devos, Stephen Miller, Jared Kushner, Chad Wolfe, John Ratcliffe, Bill Barr, and others, in office currently. These threads have been great comedic reliefs these past couple of days. I'm not a Trump voter, I am English. And I don't think Trump should have given those unqualified people those positions, but at least he didn't give those people those positions based on diversity, as that means the state is favouring some groups over other groups. @GamerDLM Well then why isn't the article clearly talking about the person being hired being the former US Surgeon General, rather than talking about how people should be hired because of diversity and "that's a great thing". The average working man (who you leftists are supposed to represent, lol) want their important civil servants to be hired based on merit, so that the country is doing the best it can, why would they want people getting hired just because they are from the state favoured groups, which does lead to incompetence, since it isn't meritocratic, and is discrimination against the majority of Americans. The article mentioned he was a former surgeon general in the first line if you didn't expand the text. If you went to the full article it was literally the second sentence and a full list of people he chose with their former roles that made them qualified (Ie. former FDA commissioners, health policy advisors, public health commissioners, medicine professors, etc.). In order to not have that information you would have had to stop reading at the headline. If you want a reason as to why they made that the headline the author is self promoted as a "culture and lifestyle reporter" so it's to appeal to their core audience for clicks. |
GamerDLMNov 10, 2020 3:14 AM
GamerDLM said: RunescapeIsGreat said: I'm not a Trump voter, I am English. And I don't think Trump should have given those unqualified people those positions, but at least he didn't give those people those positions based on diversity, as that means the state is favouring some groups over other groups. @GamerDLM Well then why isn't the article clearly talking about the person being hired being the former US Surgeon General, rather than talking about how people should be hired because of diversity and "that's a great thing". The average working man (who you leftists are supposed to represent, lol) want their important civil servants to be hired based on merit, so that the country is doing the best it can, why would they want people getting hired just because they are from the state favoured groups, which does lead to incompetence, since it isn't meritocratic, and is discrimination against the majority of Americans. The article mentioned he was a former surgeon general in the first line if you didn't expand the text. If you went to the full article it was literally the second sentence and a full list of people he chose with their former roles that made them qualified (Ie. former FDA commissioners, health policy advisors, public health commissioners, medicine professors, etc.). In order to not have that information you would have had to stop reading at the headline. If you want a reason as to why they made that the headline the author is self promoted as a "culture and lifestyle reporter" so it's to appeal to their core audience for clicks. You mislead me, you made me think that the US Surgeon General and all those other high ranking positions (FDA Commissioner, Health policy advisors, public health commissioner, medicine professors) were all merit based appointments, but that's not actually true, because if those people got to be "health policy advisor" because of diversity hiring in the past, well when they get another high ranking appointment, it still isn't merit based as they were never originally qualified. X person get important position because of Diversity hiring in year 20XX, then when they are get appointed/hired in Year 20XX, "well don't you see they are qualified since they got a important job in the past" That is your argument. |
RuneRemNov 10, 2020 3:34 AM
RunescapeIsGreat said: GamerDLM said: The article mentioned he was a former surgeon general in the first line if you didn't expand the text. If you went to the full article it was literally the second sentence and a full list of people he chose with their former roles that made them qualified (Ie. former FDA commissioners, health policy advisors, public health commissioners, medicine professors, etc.). In order to not have that information you would have had to stop reading at the headline. If you want a reason as to why they made that the headline the author is self promoted as a "culture and lifestyle reporter" so it's to appeal to their core audience for clicks. You mislead me, you made me think that the US Surgeon General and all those other high ranking positions (FDA Commissioner, Health policy advisors, public health commissioner, medicine professors) were all merit based appointments, but that's not actually true, because if those people got to be "health policy advisor" because of diversity in the past, well when they get another high ranking appointment, it still isn't merit based as they were never originally qualified, and you are just arguing they are qualified because these diversity hires have a history of high ranking positions they got because of diversity hiring. Having a history of qualified positions is the literal definition of merit based hiring. Especially because, again, all these positions are for his COVID-19 taskforce. You're arguing that they only got to those high ranking positions because of their diversity which is effectively the same as saying you'll never merit a person's qualifications if they happen to be from a different background. Edit: Also you're free to look up their backgrounds more in-depth to see their merits because these are just headline titles. For example the "Health Policy Advisor" was his title when he worked with the Obama administration but he was also a former professor at Harvard Medical school and is currently heading a medical Department at University of Pennsylvania. But I guess to you because he happens to be Jewish all of that was just "given" to him and he has no merits. |
GamerDLMNov 10, 2020 3:46 AM
GamerDLM said: RunescapeIsGreat said: You mislead me, you made me think that the US Surgeon General and all those other high ranking positions (FDA Commissioner, Health policy advisors, public health commissioner, medicine professors) were all merit based appointments, but that's not actually true, because if those people got to be "health policy advisor" because of diversity in the past, well when they get another high ranking appointment, it still isn't merit based as they were never originally qualified, and you are just arguing they are qualified because these diversity hires have a history of high ranking positions they got because of diversity hiring. Having a history of qualified positions is the literal definition of merit based hiring. Especially because, again, all these positions are for his COVID-19 taskforce. You're arguing that they only got to those high ranking positions because of their diversity which is effectively the same as saying you'll never merit a person's qualifications if they happen to be from a different background. So you are saying Diversity Hiring only ever happens at high level positions, and not the lower positions. That is absurd. Diversity Hiring affects the entire structure of employment. |
RunescapeIsGreat said: GamerDLM said: Having a history of qualified positions is the literal definition of merit based hiring. Especially because, again, all these positions are for his COVID-19 taskforce. You're arguing that they only got to those high ranking positions because of their diversity which is effectively the same as saying you'll never merit a person's qualifications if they happen to be from a different background. So you are saying Diversity Hiring only ever happens at high level positions, and not the lower positions. That is absurd. Diversity Hiring affects the entire structure of employment. No I'm saying you can't pretend to favor merit based systems when you arbitrarily disqualify people based on diversity without actually looking into their merits. |
GamerDLM said: RunescapeIsGreat said: So you are saying Diversity Hiring only ever happens at high level positions, and not the lower positions. That is absurd. Diversity Hiring affects the entire structure of employment. No I'm saying you can't pretend to favor merit based systems when you arbitrarily disqualify people based on diversity without actually looking into their merits. When a system of Affirmative Action exists, that is dismantling the meritocracy that Western countries used to have, it becomes difficult to discern which person is hired on merit, and which isn't. When Governmental administrations make a point of hiring people based on diversity, it becomes a lot easier to see which people are hired based on diversity. Also Trump hired people not based on merit or diversity, but people that funded his campaign, so it is fine to critique Government appointments, since in liberal countries, appointments aren't like to be made based on merit anymore. |
RunescapeIsGreat said: GamerDLM said: No I'm saying you can't pretend to favor merit based systems when you arbitrarily disqualify people based on diversity without actually looking into their merits. When a system of Affirmative Action exists, that is dismantling the meritocracy that Western countries used to have, it becomes difficult to discern which person is hired on merit, and which isn't. When Governmental administrations make a point of hiring people based on diversity, it becomes a lot easier to see which people are hired based on diversity. Also Trump hired people not based on merit or diversity, but people that funded his campaign, so it is fine to critique Government appointments, since in liberal countries, appointments aren't like to be made based on merit. But then it is up to you to individually investigate their merits, you consistently seem to reject the notion of doing that instead painting a broad brush of "they only got those other positions because they were diversity hires and affirmative action". Which, to reiterate, means you don't actually care about merits because you refuse to acknowledge people from a different background could actually have started and continued their careers based on merit. In fact you effectively said it's impossible that a person from a different background could ever have merit based only on the notion that affirmative action exists. I even gave one example in an edited post prior because you specifically called out one title. |
| Looks like getting Esper out of the way was to make room for Barr & Pompeo to orchestrate a coup. They don't realize the world is watching and it will fail. Can't wait to see this administration prosecuted and jailed in the coming months/years. |
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SargonTheGreat said: Sourire said: Oh boy I wish, I'd be the first one running across the border to enlist.Looks like getting Esper out of the way was to make room for Barr & Pompeo to orchestrate a coup. They don't realize the world is watching and it will fail. Can't wait to see this administration prosecuted and jailed in the coming months/years. So what are you? An Americaboo? You seem to be obsessed with America even tho you're not. Anyways....for those that want to see just how ridiculous and LAUGHABLE the Trump's Lawyers are with this whole thing....I will refer you to this: ^This dude is a genuine lawyer and is very popular on YouTube talks about a lot of court stuff....and since this is now an issue, he decided to talk about all the lawsuits the Trump team has tried to do since the election ended. Spoiler alert....get ready for massive face palms at how retarded the Trump lawyers are. |
| MORE FUN!! Watch your favorite retarded Youtube Right Wing chuds on copium. EDIT....here's is MORE FUN!! Oh man...I'm literally fapping at some of these reactions from Trump fans...it's SOOO good. |
--ALEX--Nov 10, 2020 12:56 PM
Meusnier said: Caring about other people is communism, while only caring about yourself is not only your right, but your God-given duty.Why is this thread still alive? Lol at the people trying to bash Europe to feel better. Imagine living in a place where poor people are not left to die when they have a health issue. Seems like Hell I know... Amusing too to see people still calling Biden a socialist or even a communist, that shows how well the anti-left propaganda worked in the US. |
LoneWolf said: @Josh makes me sad to call myself Canadian. |
| OK....this is the BEST one yet... Holy shit...you guys thought the leftists freaked out in 2016? MAGA is in FULL meltdown...and Jan. 20 is still 71 days away! |
Josh said: Meusnier said: Caring about other people is communism, while only caring about yourself is not only your right, but your God-given duty.Why is this thread still alive? Lol at the people trying to bash Europe to feel better. Imagine living in a place where poor people are not left to die when they have a health issue. Seems like Hell I know... Amusing too to see people still calling Biden a socialist or even a communist, that shows how well the anti-left propaganda worked in the US. Mmh... yeah no, open a book before talking next time. Since you bring up God, do you know about Jesus Christ? He did not care much about himself. I hope that you are trolling, but seeing this ridiculous post count, that would be somewhat... disappointing. @--ALEX-- Hahaha, this guy with the BBQ Beer Freedom T-shirt, the new motto of the United States of America? |
| Why is the USA so slow when it comes to counting election votes? In the UK we have lots of people on the floor going through all the votes. We get a result within a day or so. Over a week and there is still counting to be done in the USA. Even without the asinine Trump tantrum. |
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UberBat said: For starters, we're talking about a different population sizes with wildly different institutions and processes. I'd be shocked if voting styles as well as counting were uniform throughout all the world democracies.Why is the USA so slow when it comes to counting election votes? In the UK we have lots of people on the floor going through all the votes. We get a result within a day or so. Over a week and there is still counting to be done in the USA. Even without the asinine Trump tantrum. |
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