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| Wow this was the worst adapted episode of any LN, I've read in a while. Maybe I'll join the SAO haters to hate on it. |
Biswa_29Aug 1, 2020 2:14 PM
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| The villains suck but at least they redeem themselves by taking out Asuna's group and making them trovel at the hand of the U.S. Reddit army. |
| To think that we still have a connection to all the way back in Alfheim, I swear to god, the moment I saw Sugou's name pop up, still dislike that guy eventho I have not seen him in over 50 episodes! Sinon managed to resist the Subtilizer, that was a close call! Switching the bow for her Hecate! I hope she can do a number on him next week! Asuna's group had to surrender :( I think it was the right call! That cliffhanger though!! Next week it's showtime!! |
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| Funny lol. Another crazy guy (Yanai) ... and the sudden reveals that the other guys didn't know about him and his code (the thing with the eye). :D (Weird. I thought it was on purpose cause they were military and wanted to use this to create Alice.) Felt like good comedy -this episode. :D |
dabdan43 said: Could someone explain the necklace scene that happened with sinon. what was the context around it? A royal fuck up by the anime. In that scene, Sinon was just going through trauma and no one was actually choking her. And as Gabe was about to suck her soul, she was reminded about the previous time when she was in a similar situation. And her pendant was a memento she kept from that scene as a lucky charm. So due to that, she incarnated through her pendant and hence she was repelled from him. And she got out of her trauma as well. This scene was so badly fucked up in the anime that everything seemed ridiculous and idiotic. I mean wth, Kirito doesn't even know that she has this pendant. The anime staff gave all of her own credit to Kirito? |
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| I've read the light novel for SAO for this arc a few months ago and I didn't remember the interaction between Sinon and Subtilizer being this cringy.. Yikes.. I mean, personal opinion.. I cannot wait for the next episode nonetheless ldanes said: Anyone can explain how in Yanai Name, Ya=hachi?, i know 7=nana "na" and 1=ichi "i"? To quickly answer your question, "Ya" comes from Old Japanese or so what Wikipedia said (https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/%E5%85%AB) Kyle_Kirchner said: There was a ton of plot this episode and I think Kirito will wake up soon so we can "Finish the Fight" and this was the end of Volume 17 in the light novel so that means that we can now get into the volume 18 content after maybe some anime original content mixed in. I have a hunch Kirito is going to wake up maybe the end of the next episode or by the latest two episodes later. I cannot wait! I really wonder how the anime will go about it because I know that they tend to leave some important details out.. |
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| Known each other for 5 minutes and fought each other for 3 of them. Acting like they know each other personally and are soulmates. Meh. Pig people. Meh. Oh and how did a converted GGO character get this kind of abilities? Never mind them suddenly using guns instead of just bows etc. "871? I have never heard that number before!" Poor guy can only count to 870 Im sorry I just cant. Its way too cringy to watch them react so heavily to virtual death. You lose your character. MAYBE. Thats it. Sure it must be kinda PTSD for the original SAO guys to see someone they played with die but I just cant take this serious anymore. |
| "This emotion is mine alone. It is for Madoka alone." - Homura or how I would descripe Mahou Shoujo Madoka Magica. |
As said by someone else, "ya" comes from old Japanese, and indirectly from Chinese. But this pronunciation (kun reading actually) is still used today in some words, the most common one being to count things (yattsu やっつ). |
ldanes said: Anyone can explain how in Yanai Name, Ya=hachi?, i know 7=nana "na" and 1=ichi "i"? The episode was OK, the author or director likes sexual tension but we know it from the first season, but no everyone likes it. I'm disappointing with the code because no one found it, they don't made revisions or what? I'm forgetting some about that explanation There are to many Deus Ex Machina in this show, I hope they don't make Kirito the savior of all, again. From that the animation was Fine, I'm waiting for action. There is more than one way to say Japanese Numbers, in Sino-Japanese 8 is 八 (hachi), but in Native Japanese 8 is 八つ (yattsu), consequently, ya short for yattsu, hence 8(ya) 7(na from nana) 1(i from ichi). Japanese is a really complicated language. "I hope they don't make Kirito the savior of all, again." Sorry to say this bud, that's exactly what will happen. Hope you didn't forget that Kirito is the main character, so I see no reason to why Kirito saving the day is so bad. Ironically, that's what most people wants now, they want Kirito to come back and save the day. |
 I said keep your hands on the table |
| All these people complaining "They can just make a new world, those are only A.I" did you even watch Alicization? I'm sorry but y'all aren't even trying right now. The whole point of Asuna and Kirito is that A.I matters and they have their rights, they feel pain, they are just like us. And then we have a bunch of idiots complaining "Oh why are they getting so dramatic they are only A.I." SAO haters always amuse me. |
I said keep your hands on the table |
| Is SAO just trying to identify itself by rape at this point? Not only did we get an unnecessary throwback to S1's tentacle rape scene, but then we had another uncomfortable, rapey scene for Sinon. It feels intentional at this point. That said, there was some interesting Actual plot progression in this episode, unraveling some of the mysteries like the code 871. That had actually always bugged me, since it seemed to go against the goals of the organization running the server, but I had just dismissed that until now. I guess next episode we'll see Kirito wake up and maybe the following episode he kicks ass? The pacing of this season is hard to handle because of the multiple plot angles. So much can happen, yet so little time is supposed to have passed. I don't know, At this point I'm just here to finish the series as a whole. I don't actually care what happens in this arc. SAO has had its quality arcs, but this one falls flat to me. A few days ago I went back and rewatched the first half of the Aincrad arc, and all it did was make me sad. I'm sad remembering how the main characters originally actually had good motivations and personalities. Where are those now? I don't see any realistic motivations anymore. And personalities just don't exist anymore. Project Alicization originally fixed this problem by giving us a fresh set of characters (cause let's face it, all of the old SAO gang, especially the girls, are boring now...they just all want to help Kirito cause they love him or whatever). Alice and Eugeo and even Kirito all felt like they had realistic persoanlities/motivations once again. But at the start of the War of the Underworld arc that all started to disappear once again. It's like the writer can't keep developing a character after a single arc. Once the arc is done, the character is from then on stale because they're "developed" already. So yeah, bit of a rant, but that pretty much surmises my feelings of this new season so far. Overall disappointed, even though I will probably finish it just to see how the story ends up, but at this point I don't care what the characters do because they just aren't interesting anymore. |
Is Blue Box my favorite manga? Not yet...Yes. Yes it is.  |
| Damn a cliffhanger, didn't want to see Gabriel again xD I really thought that Sinon was going to be raped. Things are more and more serious now |
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Ashhk said: Damn a cliffhanger, didn't want to see Gabriel again xD I really thought that Sinon was going to be raped. Things are more and more serious now Weren't ln readers saying that a sinon rape scene was coming? Did they skip it or is it still gonna happen in the near future |
| This anime shit is addictive |
spectrojan said: That's why I totally thought she was about to be raped, but some people said it was false, and now that's a proof that there is no Sinon rape sceneAshhk said: Damn a cliffhanger, didn't want to see Gabriel again xD I really thought that Sinon was going to be raped. Things are more and more serious now Weren't ln readers saying that a sinon rape scene was coming? Did they skip it or is it still gonna happen in the near future |
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spectrojan said: Ashhk said: Damn a cliffhanger, didn't want to see Gabriel again xD I really thought that Sinon was going to be raped. Things are more and more serious now Weren't ln readers saying that a sinon rape scene was coming? Did they skip it or is it still gonna happen in the near future They were messing with you and I absolutely didn't get any rape vibe while reading, be it in this scene or in Leafa's infamous one. |
| Wait So the remaining "AI human" troops of Underworld got exterminated and all the survivors are that few around Asuna? More yet, so all that minions of the factions of ALfheim Online now lose their special accounts and must begin from zero? Poor japaneses, some may have commit suicide after it. Well, that is why people say this is the last season of SAO. No more random numerous friends to help Kirito like in Alfheim, Mother Rosario, or Ordinal Scale. And the leader of Laughing Coffin is right in front of Kirito vegetable, ready to abuse of this boy who did not recovered his conscience even after be comforted by all and every girl of harem. I see the that amount of DEUS EX MACHINA in the next episode will be huge. |
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| Lame episode. But I like how they make usa look so shitty. |
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Kyragos said: Leafa's one is understandable (because of the tentacles) but for Sinon there is just nothing.spectrojan said: Weren't ln readers saying that a sinon rape scene was coming? Did they skip it or is it still gonna happen in the near future They were messing with you and I absolutely didn't get any rape vibe while reading, be it in this scene or in Leafa's infamous one. |
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| looks like koreans are idiots and all the japanese players are bad at games because they're losing as high levels to a bunch of fodder mobs and why is no one using sacred arts |
| another episode another rape attempt Kikuoka and Rinko having that “oh shit...” moment was the best part of the episode |
trwygon said: lezerman said: To be fair, this episode has almost everything people hate about SAO, from the almost rape to the awful villain character. At this point you have to accept the story will go on like this forever or just stop watching. Almost rape? You surely didn't watch the same anime as anyone else... How was that almost-rape? Ok, almost sexual assault, better? jesus |
| can we like... stop with all the "almost"? You either do it or you don't. |
| I was expecting Season 3 to be way worse than season 1 and even season 2, and I was right :3 No idea what's happening anymore cuz they assume you have to watched every single SAO series from the past to understand what's going on XD. (I mean most series will do a quick recap /buildup for new audience, especially those stuffs are like how long ago? 8 years?) Also every good guy suddenly lost their power for no reason XD. Are those initial aoe attack from god account like 1 time use or something? Like seriously most of them go down without even a fight. (Sinen what are you doing lol) If the god account is this weak, much weaker than Dark Emperor , I don't think these clown developers know how to manage the game. Also that cease the fire just to harass main casts is so comedic and terrible. SAO being SAO. Can't have villains that's not stupid. |
Ventus_SAug 1, 2020 5:51 PM
| Please I'm still lazy to try reading the light novel. Can someone spoil me please what will happen next? :( idk if this is allowed tho |
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| So, was the sinon rape scene skipped, or is it something that is still to happen next? |
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| It's understandable, it's just a job for Yanai, allying with US NSA because he wants money and position overseas. Also, achieving what his boss wants. Nothing personal. I guess it's also understandable since he's a simp, Administrator dying made him mad. But he's blaming the wrong guy, it's not Kirito who killed him, it's the other simp, the Clownn. Sinon getting her gun Hecat sounds like Gurrren Lagann spiral power, making gigadrillss. Show em fight the powaaaa!!! Not gonna lie, I was intimidated with Subtitlelizer, he's a soul eater! Leafa gonna solo the red soldiers like his onichan soloing a floor boss. Pooh saying It's Showtime! to unresponsive kid, that's f*ck up. |
WraithFuryAug 1, 2020 6:29 PM
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| It was such a great episode, it really excited me. I haven't get so excited since Asuna arrived to Underworld. You know something awesome is about to happen when everybody starts to get hurt badly and putted on the ropes. Especially with that post credits scene |
lezerman said: trwygon said: Almost rape? You surely didn't watch the same anime as anyone else... How was that almost-rape? Ok, almost sexual assault, better? jesus Saiklo said: Yes. An "almost" rape. It is never quite fun when some "almost" attempts rape against someone else. Perhaps you can say that "almost" raping someone is a form of sexual assault which this series is so fondly in love with. :) Seriously what is it with these threads and rape... Someone loses their life in media. Everyone point and laugh! Someone is groped by some tentacles in anime. It's time to lose your minds. There has been no rape in SAO and somehow, someway, rape discussion always manages to find its way here. Ah, yes now it's time for the attempted rape and sexual assault topic. SAO aside, WOU p2, Leafa and Sinon's 'scenes' are clear examples of sexualized assault, not sexual assault. Both DIL and Subtilizer/Gabriel's intents are clear, neither are sexually assaulting anyone. Their assaults are shown in a sexualized manner for fan service. I genuinely don't understand people's standards and expectations of media. Apparently dying and first degree murder in anime A-OK. Sexualized Assault, no no no, unacceptable. |
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| The reason why SAO will never be the best anime, because in terms of characteristics and nature, the main character is always dealing with bad villains. & The reason why the story is so emotional, because the author is making "present" plot with the "past" concept . simple though using the story of present, but in every war scene always switched with different scene like a flashback story with a smells dramatic. |
| Aside from that, Sakuya's short fight was incredible. This is what we've been deprived of... Quality fighting and actual movements. I'm not sure why that was prioritized over Asuna's fights, but I'll forgive since it was fairly nice addition. In fact, it was probably one of the best short fights in Alicization, (Even tho I don't care for Sakuya) lol. I feel like this is being really underdiscussed. Am I the only one that had an issue with Asuna's incredibly weak fight scenes or all the Kirito v Integrity Knight sword locks? Sinon breaking free from Subtilizer and their incarnation guns... I'll give it a pass, except, even if it was an exposition dump. Someone should have explained incarnation sometime before they got to this point. The art and animation sure was clean for a majority of this episode, hopefully it remains this way until the end. |
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Saiklo said: Yes. An "almost" rape. It is never quite fun when some "almost" attempts rape against someone else. Perhaps you can say that "almost" raping someone is a form of sexual assault which this series is so fondly in love with. :) In the first place, the anime shouldn't have gone this way. What I am saying is that if they really want to make this disturbing, then they really should make it disturbing. If not, then don't do it at all. As it is, this feels like the director wanted to do hentai, but couldn't bcs this is mainstream public consumption. It is ruining what, otherwise, is a decent plot. |
| Are the two new characters Moonphase and Mei filler characters or they have more important role in future? |
Saiklo said: Inorichi said: Seriously what is it with these threads and rape... Someone loses their life in media. Everyone point and laugh! Someone is groped by some tentacles in anime. It's time to lose your minds. There has been no rape in SAO and somehow, someway, rape discussion always manages to find its way here. Ah, yes now it's time for the attempted rape and sexual assault topic. SAO aside, WOU p2, Leafa and Sinon's 'scenes' are clear examples of sexualized assault, not sexual assault. Both DIL and Subtilizer/Gabriel's intents are clear, neither are sexually assaulting anyone. Their assaults are shown in a sexualized manner for fan service. I genuinely don't understand people's standards and expectations of media. Apparently dying and first degree murder in anime A-OK. Sexualized Assault, no no no, unacceptable. Well its not hard to see why a discussion about an anime that uses rape and sexual assault as a shitty plot device to make BAD GUY BAD in about 25% of its episodes would lead back to... rape. Its not the fact that its being used. Its that its so tasteless and needlessly abundant to the point where I think the author has a serious rape fetish. Its clearly just being shoved in at this point to cover up bad writing. Lets not forget this gem the author wrote to show how weird he is with sex: "Two years worth of semen made a glopping noise as it flowed endlessly into asuna." Ah yes, like espionage, illegal human experimentation, kidnapping, drugging, murder etc fail to make a bad guy 'bad'. Of course, groping someone with tentacles in VR is the worst crime of them all! Not taking someone's life, but groping them in a virtual space makes them so bad! You throw out a bunch of claims regarding SAO, but have absolutely no examples. Clearly the discussion is going nowhere since your only arguments are fueled by your imagination. The double standards here. People dying in every episode - not an issue. Sexual assault in 25% of episodes oh no. It's not like the number of sexual assault crimes in a given year exceed murder crimes? Totally unrealistic am I right? 'Plot device' - Like DIL and Gabriel groping Leafa and Sinon actually progress or interact with the overarching story in anyway shape or form. 'Bad Writing' - Yes. We have an expert here. The objective almighty God of writing. Someone who can pass judgement on entertainment. Someone who lacks all subjectivity. It's entertainment, the goal is to entertain. Which ultimately, some people will enjoy and others will not. For everytime you call it bad, someone else will call it good. You must be an expert btw, next CEO of the LN industry. Cracked the code to top of the chart sales figures in an instant. Using sexual assault will consistently get your books to sell absurdly well. Yep, using sexual assault in SAO got Reki Kawahara's Accel World, SAO Progressive, and The Isolater to sell, all being simultaneously serialized. The only example you do present is non-canon material, also translated which you use to judge the author on his 'sexual fetishes' which you came up with. It's not like the Leafa scene didn't annoy me. But that's only because A1 turned a dark and desperate DIL into some air manspreading clown dancer? It's fine if you want to hate on SAO, but if you want to make up a reason, please come up with a better one. Either that or just don't watch if you hate it so much. Do you just have so much free time you force yourself to read up on media you hate? (wow and I thought forcing yourself to watch anime you hate was bad). All joking aside, you present 0 examples, don't explain your standards, and your arguments are fueled by your subjective opinions. You 'THINK' its tasteless and needless. You 'THINK' they have a fetish, etc, etc. I could 'THINK' a bunch of things. It doesn't necessarily make for a good discussion if all we're doing is throwing opinions around. |
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Gorochu said: Are the two new characters Moonphase and Mei filler characters or they have more important role in future? Well they were introduced last week (or was it the week before, idr). But Moonphase's intro was cut short compared to the novel, it was lengthier and explained more of the JP / KR / CN virtual reality mmo relations. They're side chars. Not Mobs, but not really super important. Revvie-chan said: Saiklo said: Yes. An "almost" rape. It is never quite fun when some "almost" attempts rape against someone else. Perhaps you can say that "almost" raping someone is a form of sexual assault which this series is so fondly in love with. :) In the first place, the anime shouldn't have gone this way. What I am saying is that if they really want to make this disturbing, then they really should make it disturbing. If not, then don't do it at all. As it is, this feels like the director wanted to do hentai, but couldn't bcs this is mainstream public consumption. It is ruining what, otherwise, is a decent plot. That I can more or less agree with, aside from the director comment. Though, it's not impossible. Like the DIL scene was way over the top and felt ridiculous. |
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| well this is becoming depressing.... damn.... nice season btw |
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DarthWeeaboo said: looks like koreans are idiots and all the japanese players are bad at games because they're losing as high levels to a bunch of fodder mobs and why is no one using sacred arts Because Sacred Arts are the last resource. Even if it was used all the time in the last season to anihilate the dark forces. BUT last resource. For exemple, if the enemy is going to win, kill almost all the people you came to protect, kill even your friends of real world, erasing their personal characters. And if after all that, the enemy is going to face the disabled Kirito, risking to easily finish with his soul once for all Just to avoid that, the special skills of Asuna should be used, or the sacred arts of the knights there, or any special skill of the other friends. What, wait |
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| Well, this episode was a disaster in storytelling. The plot is butchered brutally and the anime just takes the plot and moves it from point A to point B without any details in between. Asuna, Klein and the others losing against the endless army of soldiers is skipped over and we get the perspective of Sakuya and Rue instead. Gabriel realised how to use incarnation but that was skipped too. The reason for Sinon's pendant to manifest was skipped. But for me the worst offender is how everyone is made to talk in Japanese. Siune is half Korean and she understands both Japanese and Korean. That's why she tried to reason with the attackers. A simple monologue from her would have been enough to get this point across to anime only viewers. But the director or whoever is in charge doesn't care about the actual work. He only cares to adapt it. 2/5 for this episode. |
| Really hard to give a shit when every villain is some wild eyed madman. Why is the only bad guy in all of anime some third-rate ripoff of The Joker. And seriously, who the hell hops into a video game to try to PK someone a hundred levels over you just because some guy, who is clearly an insane asshole, said so? Especially when those people are obviously some of the most famous players in the world. They didn't even find a person with an exclamation mark over their head and accept a quest first. What a waste of animation. |
Chrome_Falcon said: Well, this episode was a disaster in storytelling. The plot is butchered brutally and the anime just takes the plot and moves it from point A to point B without any details in between. Asuna, Klein and the others losing against the endless army of soldiers is skipped over and we get the perspective of Sakuya and Rue instead. Gabriel realised how to use incarnation but that was skipped too. The reason for Sinon's pendant to manifest was skipped. But for me the worst offender is how everyone is made to talk in Japanese. Siune is half Korean and she understands both Japanese and Korean. That's why she tried to reason with the attackers. A simple monologue from her would have been enough to get this point across to anime only viewers. But the director or whoever is in charge doesn't care about the actual work. He only cares to adapt it. 2/5 for this episode. Perfect. I've read this part of light novel and it was ridiculous. The director was not even interested in really "adapt" , but just in hurry to finish it in 12 episodes. As somebody asked above, why did they introduced that Moonphase? - as a plot excuse to explain how are the (lacking of) relations between Korea/China and Japan in the virtual MMO games. - Most of japanese networks are regionally locked to avoid foreigners. - the LN depict it as something bad, by the thoughts of Siune, who is half Korean. - She thinks that the virtual reality should make the people of different countries be closer, but it is doing the opposite. - She speaks in korean to reason over the korean players and it call attention of Moonphase. - In the end it fails anyway, but the message was sent to the audience. Meanwhile, in the heartless bussiness world of anime: "Nah, we are xenophobic, the audience is xenophobic, Siune just will speak and nobody should suppose its not japanese, because f* korea". Thats how these people is. |
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