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Apr 26, 2020 12:40 PM
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Do you hate it or love it, and why.
Personally i dont quite like harem but DanMachi is exception because Hestia and Lili❀. Also Grisaia xd (you should watch them if you havent)


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I wouldn't say I am a harem fan, but I do enjoy harems. There is something fun about them foresure!
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I hated almost every harem show I was convinced to give a chance to, so nowadays I prefer to just avoid this stuff altogether.
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I can enjoy it if it's a sideplot and it's mainly for comedic purposes. But if the whole plot of the anime revolves around the main character getting a harem, then i'd rather not watch it.
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I can enjoy it if it's a sideplot and it's mainly for comedic purposes. But if the whole plot of the anime revolves around the main character getting a harem, then i'd rather not watch it.


i recommend grisaia series if you havent seen :)
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as long as the chicks are hot, I'm cool with harem
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Harem is the genre I hate the most. I just can't seem to enjoy it. Maybe I just haven't found it yet, but damn I hate it so much when non-harem anime ended up having harem element in it.
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Stian1308 said:
I can enjoy it if it's a sideplot and it's mainly for comedic purposes. But if the whole plot of the anime revolves around the main character getting a harem, then i'd rather not watch it.


This is me, the other thing i hate about Harem is that when we can't get a solid ending, and we get a retarded one instead.
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Apr 26, 2020 1:04 PM

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My opinion depends on which harem we talking about

But as a big fan of romance anime I like several girls or guys fighting over one boy or girl romantically
Apr 26, 2020 1:07 PM

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for the most part i dont really like them

it's kinda like, you're not giving the proper attention and role that each character deserves, having all of them fall in love with the MC just kinda seems blatantly disrespectful to them i suppose.

cutting everyone a piece of the pie doesn't quite cut it when it comes to romance

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I'm alright with them, I enjoy their typical humour from time to time mainly because it's relaxing (most of the time)
The best feeling is when you find a really good harem show because there are a lot of bad harems out there so when you find that one diamond in the rough, it feels very rewarding
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Usually dislike them (especially when the MC is incredibly generic), but they can be good for comedy occasionally.
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I wouldn't watch it often, only a few times in a while to get a nice change of pace from watching or reading something serious.
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Apr 26, 2020 1:11 PM
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I have nothing against harem, I quite like it when done well but the quality of the works have a tendency to be very poor for some reason.
Apr 26, 2020 1:13 PM

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it sucks i think its an excuse to cover up poorly written story
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it's kinda like, you're not giving the proper attention and role that each character deserves, having all of them fall in love with the MC just kinda seems blatantly disrespectful to them i suppose.

cutting everyone a piece of the pie doesn't quite cut it when it comes to romance
Id say that really depends on the context of what show we talking about
There are harem anime and manga that go on for several seasons or hundreds of chapters in which the female cast are given lots of attention each to really show their character and are given respect
Apr 26, 2020 1:20 PM

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It depends, sometimes I enjoy watching harem and sometimes I dislike.
Altough the humour parts are good, I will not spend my time on it like them.
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Almost every harem I've watched has been a 6/10, so, on average, they are fine for me. Most harems have hit and miss in characters. The World God Only Knows pretty much has a good MC and some decent side characters, but the minor characters that show up for one or two episodes aren't really interesting. Tsukiyo, Chihiro and Shiori are all pretty decent in my eyes. The rest, however, I couldn't really care about though the show did enough for them to be 5/10s.

This seems to be generally, a running theme in any large cast shows such as Harems. Balancing all those characters and making them interesting is just going to be considerably harder than smaller cast shows.

I would say, as a side note, that the MC in harem shows are usually the better characters in harems based on my experience. Kae from Kiss Him Not Me was by far the highlight of the show and outshone every other character, Raku was one of the better characters in his show, Haruhi from Ouran was one of the more fun characters to watch, Tohru is in my top 10, Fuutarou was the 2nd best character, Masamune was the main draw in his show, and Tomoya was also pretty cool.
Weirdly enough it's usually the love interests who are lacking for me, assuming the show itself isn't bad in which each of the characters sucks. That's not to say there are good harems that I've enjoyed that didn't have the MCs as the strong point, just that usually for me, the MC is the good character contrary to popular belief.
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In my opinion it is absolute 'haram'. Few works manage to craft characters well around it but they are dime a dozen. Otherwise generally it is almost as if these characters just like to have no self-respect, desperate for attention and unable to move on.
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I like them as usually the comedy aspect appeals to me as i find anything funny. Sometimes the girls can have actually really nice designs and they're cute so there's that too.



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My problem is the harem mc are always so damn boring like how tf does the whole world fall for them. I know that most of the time they're supposed to be self inserts but I still don't like it.

But I guess they're ok. I prefer reverse harems though. And I'm still waiting for a mixed gender harem oh yeah
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I like the idea of a harem (since I am a filthy weeb just like the rest of you)...but I hate the execution of most harem anime.

Realistically speaking, a bunch of girls won't fall for a guy just because he's "nice." Everyone is "nice." Many girls are either attracted to guys who are confident, cool, charismatic...or "bad boys", which they mistake as being charismatic. If neither works, then girls fall for guys whom they have chemistry with, common interests, good conversations.

Harem anime do the complete opposite: the guy is not charismatic, is not a "bad boy," he shares no common interests or proper conversations with the girls. But he is polite, just like 90% of the people in the world, which is somehow enough to get these girls to fall for him...how?

Not to mention, how in harem anime, the girls are rarely, if ever, shown talking to and/or being friends with other guys.

At this point, I'm just waiting for a harem anime where a girl falls for the guy because he opened the fucking door for her.

At least with Highschool DxD, I can kinda can see why the girls are in love with Issei: he gets close to them to a point where they reveal their personnel issues. His goofy perverted, but honest personality makes him endearing.

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My problem is the harem mc are always so damn boring like how tf does the whole world fall for them. I know that most of the time they're supposed to be self inserts but I still don't like it.

But I guess they're ok. I prefer reverse harems though. And I'm still waiting for a mixed gender harem oh yeah


I don't think self-inserts work in an anime; because you, the viewer, are not controlling the protagonist's actions. If you think hard enough about it, there is no such thing as an anime with a self-insert protagonist; because their actions, reactions, and personality, are independent.

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Almost every harem I've watched has been a 6/10, so, on average, they are fine for me. Most harems have hit and miss in characters. The World God Only Knows pretty much has a good MC and some decent side characters, but the minor characters that show up for one or two episodes aren't really interesting. Tsukiyo, Chihiro and Shiori are all pretty decent in my eyes. The rest, however, I couldn't really care about though the show did enough for them to be 5/10s.

This seems to be generally, a running theme in any large cast shows such as Harems. Balancing all those characters and making them interesting is just going to be considerably harder than smaller cast shows.

I would say, as a side note, that the MC in harem shows are usually the better characters in harems based on my experience. Kae from Kiss Him Not Me was by far the highlight of the show and outshone every other character, Raku was one of the better characters in his show, Haruhi from Ouran was one of the more fun characters to watch, Tohru is in my top 10, Fuutarou was the 2nd best character, Masamune was the main draw in his show, and Tomoya was also pretty cool.
Weirdly enough it's usually the love interests who are lacking for me, assuming the show itself isn't bad in which each of the characters sucks. That's not to say there are good harems that I've enjoyed that didn't have the MCs as the strong point, just that usually for me, the MC is the good character contrary to popular belief.


I think The World God Only Knows is definitely one of the better harems: the MC has a very clearly defined personality, the girls around him, all of whom their personnel insecurities are explored and developed.
It's interesting how you say the MCs in harems tend to be better than the other characters, because in my opinion, it's usually the complete opposite; the harem MC tends to be nearly bland, while the other characters have quirks that define them.
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Most of the time, I find it very annoying and one dimensional. Every once in a while however, I see ones that actually pull it off very well, like the Monogatari series and Ouran High School Host Club but this isn't very common from what I've seen.
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I like it when there is a lot of ecchi.
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I like harems, but most of them can't handle the amount of girls (or boys) and save no room for romance or character development, so a lot of them its just an ecchi compilation.




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harems are dope, but most of the time the characters have vry typical traits.
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I like the [b]idea[/i] of a harem (since I am a filthy weeb just like the rest of you)...but I hate the execution of most harem anime.

Realistically speaking, a bunch of girls won't fall for a guy just because he's "nice." Everyone is "nice." Many girls are either attracted to guys who are confident, cool, charismatic...or "bad boys", which they mistake as being charismatic. If neither works, then girls fall for guys whom they have chemistry with, common interests, good conversations.

Harem anime do the complete opposite: the guy is not charismatic, is not a "bad boy," he shares no common interests or proper conversations with the girls. But he is polite, just like 90% of the people in the world, which is somehow enough to get these girls to fall for him...how?

Not to mention, how in harem anime, the girls are rarely, if ever, shown talking to and/or being friends with other guys.

At this point, I'm just waiting for a harem anime where a girl falls for the guy because he opened the fucking door for her.

At least with Highschool DxD, I can kinda can see why the girls are in love with Issei: he gets close to them to a point where they reveal their personnel issues. His goofy perverted, but honest personality makes him endearing.

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My problem is the harem mc are always so damn boring like how tf does the whole world fall for them. I know that most of the time they're supposed to be self inserts but I still don't like it.

But I guess they're ok. I prefer reverse harems though. And I'm still waiting for a mixed gender harem oh yeah


I don't think self-inserts work in an anime; because you, the viewer, are not controlling the protagonist's actions. If you think hard enough about it, there is no such thing as an anime with a self-insert protagonist; because their actions, reactions, and personality, are independent.

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Almost every harem I've watched has been a 6/10, so, on average, they are fine for me. Most harems have hit and miss in characters. The World God Only Knows pretty much has a good MC and some decent side characters, but the minor characters that show up for one or two episodes aren't really interesting. Tsukiyo, Chihiro and Shiori are all pretty decent in my eyes. The rest, however, I couldn't really care about though the show did enough for them to be 5/10s.

This seems to be generally, a running theme in any large cast shows such as Harems. Balancing all those characters and making them interesting is just going to be considerably harder than smaller cast shows.

I would say, as a side note, that the MC in harem shows are usually the better characters in harems based on my experience. Kae from Kiss Him Not Me was by far the highlight of the show and outshone every other character, Raku was one of the better characters in his show, Haruhi from Ouran was one of the more fun characters to watch, Tohru is in my top 10, Fuutarou was the 2nd best character, Masamune was the main draw in his show, and Tomoya was also pretty cool.
Weirdly enough it's usually the love interests who are lacking for me, assuming the show itself isn't bad in which each of the characters sucks. That's not to say there are good harems that I've enjoyed that didn't have the MCs as the strong point, just that usually for me, the MC is the good character contrary to popular belief.


I think The World God Only Knows is definitely one of the better harems: the MC has a very clearly defined personality, the girls around him, all of whom their personnel insecurities are explored and developed.
It's interesting how you say the MCs in harems tend to be better than the other characters, because in my opinion, it's usually the complete opposite; the harem MC tends to be nearly bland, while the other characters have quirks that define them.


I'm with you. I think the general concept has potential but usually fails in execution. Even if you manage to find a better than average harem, most likely it will be a 1-cour rushed adaptation with no resolution which is frustrating and makes me regret watching it in the first place.

Yes the MC is often bland by western standards but maybe that's a reflection of Japanese culture which does encourage young people to conform to being a middle management cog in the machine. I'm not sure I'd like to see a show about many girls perusing a charismatic bad boy...but a somewhat believable reason for the harem situation to evolve wouldn't hurt.
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The problem is that those quirks are often bland in of itself. I mean, take Shuffle, for example, Kaede for most of the show was regulated to her love for the MC and her excessive care for him. She wasn't really anything, but wife material for the vast majority of time watching her and the other characters weren't much better. Primula has all the worst aspects of a stoic character as the general experience of watching her is a deadpan expression with little to no dialogue. This is true of most of the characters in Shuffle, the general experience I have watching the girls of the show is pretty standard and unevolving in that the traits they have aren't shown in that many different ways along with the traits themselves being kind of boring. If you want I can try to back all this up if you disagree.


I think the only shows where the love interests outshone the MCs were Rosairo+Vampire, Amnesia, and Zero no Tsukaima.
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I don't like it on a conceptual level and at best I can tolerate harem elements in favor of other aspects of the show that I really like, but for the most part I just avoid harems, especially when it's a central aspect of the anime.
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Not a fan if harem is the main focus, but i don't mind if MC hanging out with a few girls/boys as occasional social and story going.
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If the show is good then it is good and if the show is bad then it is bad. Really there are not much difference to other genre. But then again if you already hate the concept on fundamental level aka having character getting surrounded by opposite sex then no matter how good the show is it will only fall on deaf ear.
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Before I knew anime terms, I didn't mind them and I use to watch a lot but now that I'm pickier about the stuff I watch, I tend to stay away from them because I don't really like the cliches and usually 90% of the time my favorite girl doesn't get chosen or no girl gets chosen at all
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The problem is that those quirks are often bland in of itself. I mean, take Shuffle, for example, Kaede for most of the show was regulated to her love for the MC and her excessive care for him. She wasn't really anything, but wife material for the vast majority of time watching her and the other characters weren't much better. Primula has all the worst aspects of a stoic character as the general experience of watching her is a deadpan expression with little to no dialogue. This is true of most of the characters in Shuffle, the general experience I have watching the girls of the show is pretty standard and unevolving in that the traits they have aren't shown in that many different ways along with the traits themselves being kind of boring. If you want I can try to back all this up if you disagree.


I think the only shows where the love interests outshone the MCs were Rosairo+Vampire, Amnesia, and Zero no Tsukaima.


I agree for the most part. But I disagree that the MC in some of these harem anime, including Shuffle, are any better. Like, one of my other problems with harem anime, is that the female characters 100% revolve around the male character. What are their aspirations? What career do they want to pursue? How do they feel about pursuing that career? Why don't they have other male friends? Literally, most of the dialogue of most these female characters have revolve around the male MC.

What I love about The World God Only Knows, is that it's kinda less about Keima trying to get girls to fall in love with him, and more about him helping them overcome their personnel insecurities that don't have anything to do with him. Like book girl's social anxiety (which I kinda relate to), the pride of ex-rich girl wanting to carry on her dead dad's legacy, karate girl trying to learn to accept her femininity. These are actually very human problems.
What also is interesting is how this anime kinda breaks the harem fantasy by making it so that:


I love pretty waifus just like anyone else, but I also find them much more attractive when they feel more human.
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I mean he isn't much better, but he is by no means is he worse. He's kind of just on par with every other bad character.

Anyway, I disagree that most female characters in harems evolve around the MC. I think that is a problem pretty unique to Shuffle and with that particular character. I think what you said about God Only Knows focusing on the mental hang-ups of the girls is pretty standard harem practice even in the more bland shows of its genre.
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My problem with harems is the self-insert nature of the genre. The protagonist is always what I would term a "loser": passive, lack of interests, goes with whatever other people suggest, etc. If they made a harem with characters where the relationship dynamic is believable, then it might be a fun watch.
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They are good, especially when they have a big-titted main girl and a tsundere.
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I mean he isn't much better, but he is by no means is he worse. He's kind of just on par with every other bad character.

Anyway, I disagree that most female characters in harems evolve around the MC. I think that is a problem pretty unique to Shuffle and with that particular character. I think what you said about God Only Knows focusing on the mental hang-ups of the girls is pretty standard harem practice even in the more bland shows of its genre.


Highschool DxD
Date a Live
Rosario + Vampire
Monster Musume
Heaven's Lost Property
Oresuki
Oreshura
Sekirei
Kanokon
Omamori Himari
Shomin Sample

These are nearly all the harem anime I've watched.
Once the girls in these anime fall in love with the protagonist, he is all they talk about.

I don't know any other harem anime other than The World God Only Knows, and Highschool DxD that focus on the male MC helping girls with their hangups.
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I oddly prefer reverse harems, in a way. There's just something about it that's way more appealing than normal harems.
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I like harem anime, they are fun to watch. I like a little sex appeal in an anime also.
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Usually I hate them because I can never understand how a bunch of hot girls can fall in love with a generic, bland, shitty excuse for a main character. It's bad enough that the MC has no personality or development, but it adds insult to injury when all the female characters, who might actually have interesting traits and backstories, completely throw all that away when the MC enters their field of vision and they suddenly transform into trash that only exist to fight with their 'rivals,' salivate over the MC, and provide the viewer with eye candy.


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I mean he isn't much better, but he is by no means is he worse. He's kind of just on par with every other bad character.

Anyway, I disagree that most female characters in harems evolve around the MC. I think that is a problem pretty unique to Shuffle and with that particular character. I think what you said about God Only Knows focusing on the mental hang-ups of the girls is pretty standard harem practice even in the more bland shows of its genre.


Highschool DxD
Date a Live
Rosario + Vampire
Monster Musume
Heaven's Lost Property
Oresuki
Oreshura
Sekirei
Kanokon
Omamori Himari
Shomin Sample

These are nearly all the harem anime I've watched.
Once the girls in these anime fall in love with the protagonist, he is all they talk about.

I don't know any other harem anime other than The World God Only Knows, and Highschool DxD that focus on the male MC helping girls with their hangups.


TWOK is not exactly a harem anime. It follows an omnibus structure similar to the gal-games that Keima plays. Instead of having to start over from the beginning after completing a route, the girls forget the 'conquest'. Only in the final season does the harem hijinks truly begin and then it becomes a clusterfuck because there's too many girls and not enough episodes.
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Out of all of those I've only watched Sekirei and Rosario+Vampire, so I'll start by addressing one those shows.


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Harems are by definition just having multiple love interests for one person. They all don't need to be in love with the same person at the same time. That isn't really a rule as far as I am aware.
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I like most harem animes. Reverse harems, too.

Too many harem MCs are either pervy/lecherous, or boring/clueless guys. One that doesn't fall into either of these is Kogarashi from "Yuuna and the Haunted Hot Springs", who has a backstory that reveals how he became the character he is.
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I don't really like them. If the story is interesting I can tolerate them but I usually avoid them. The main character is often really boring and bland so it's hard to understand why so many girls would want to date him. I don't really enjoy reverse harems either. I tried some after thinking that the reason why I didn't like harems might be because I'm not attracted to girls but... nope.
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Judging by my statistics, not a genre I'm really interested in. To keep everybody happy, interested into MC, and to avoid (serious) conflicts, too much fabric softener has to be added to leave room for interesting story and drama.

I prefer the more realistic version called "love triangle/polygon" - School Days is a harem I can actually enjoy :D

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Harems are by definition just having multiple love interests for one person. They all don't need to be in love with the same person at the same time. That isn't really a rule as far as I am aware.


Shit, the old 70's incredible hulk TV series could be called a harem then since Bruce Banner found himself the target of many, many women's romantic affection throughout the series.
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Peaceful_Critic said:

Harems are by definition just having multiple love interests for one person. They all don't need to be in love with the same person at the same time. That isn't really a rule as far as I am aware.


Shit, the old 70's incredible hulk TV series could be called a harem then since Bruce Banner found himself the target of many, many women's romantic affection throughout the series.
I mean I've never watched it, but if that's true, then yeah, that would technically constitute a harem, at least with the definition I'm using.
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Shit, the old 70's incredible hulk TV series could be called a harem then since Bruce Banner found himself the target of many, many women's romantic affection throughout the series.
I mean I've never watched it, but if that's true, then yeah, that would technically constitute a harem, at least with the definition I'm using.


Almost every episode followed the exact formula. Bruce enters into some person's life (usually a woman) and helps them solve their problems...by turning into Lou Ferrigno and smashing shit... Then the cheesy piano theme would play as the woman sadly watches as he wanders off to the next encounter.

Quantum Leap also followed this structure. Lots of 70s/80s shows did now that I think about it.
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Shit, the old 70's incredible hulk TV series could be called a harem then since Bruce Banner found himself the target of many, many women's romantic affection throughout the series.
I mean I've never watched it, but if that's true, then yeah, that would technically constitute a harem, at least with the definition I'm using.
I disagree with @Peaceful_Critic definition, exactly having simultaneous relations with multiple (wo)men is the nature of harem. As compared to womanizers who do it sequentially with frequent change. The difference is in the "keep" factor.

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It’s time to ditch the text file.
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