AzorAhai said: I'm confused to why life-sentence is NOT A THING in that universe. do they have like death sentence or humiliation as only options? (like with Naofumi in ep1 lol, where he had to be executed, but since he's a hero, he was humiliated instead) Life sentences are not really a thing (if you don't send them to the mines to work theiir asses off) in a medivial setting, death is much cheaper, and i don't think that the queen would send their daughter and husband to the mines or sell them into slavery as punishments. |
AzorAhai said: @NthDegree That being said I'm a bit iffy about what the OP thinks would be "mature and realistic"... Eh, although it's bad writing I wouldn't say that fixing it would make the show any more mature. For example, you can write a tragedy where bad guys win and still be mature. |
Blaze35 said: Snaita said: If you think what I wrote is a personal attack, you are the only one lacking in social skills. I'm talking as one who as done the same thing as you, can't see how I am offending you but ok... Whenever does this makes something biased "This ending was well written I must say", the ending was written to match with Naofumi characterization, it was not written by me, as I said the premise has always been Naofumi cooping with his anger. It's a fact, one that you just don't like. You can't just conveniently pick things that other users write, just cause they align somewhat with what you think and you picked a bad example at that. Malty could be locked yes, but she can't be killed since she's still the King and Queen daughter, she still has political value, she can be used and will be used in the future. Something that user just forgot to mention it to you. In history Kings don't kill their sons and daughters for their mistakes, they can't do it publicly. It gives monarchy a bad name and masses start to question the kings authority, they cover the whole thing up and exiled them or other nobles assassinate them. Melty has as much plot armor as any of the side characters and main characters, since none have died. Have you wondered that she might still die in the future? I was that user and yes the queen conveniently left her alive(well in the anime was naofumi a big change i say to be honest)for "political" reasons but at the same time I found it stupid seeing what she does afterwards and what the result is. Well I expect nothing but shit from her since she gives off a psychopath vibe, but the Queen and Naofumi doesn't seem know that yet. I can totally see her fucking everything up, at least we won't have the cliché route of redemption where she falls in love in the MC or something... |
Snaita said: dude i watch only anime so it made 0 sense why queen would propose death sentence. As someone mentioned in manga or ln queen refuses naofumi's offer to kill the two. In anime we don't even get info onto why the queen doen't want to kill the two. We have a false impression of a monarch doing her duty, but turns out she just gambled. Shitty writing, at least in anime, and what's with you and your "the story is about Naofumi cooping with his anger"? Just forget about Naofumi for a second please and think about queen's decision and Malty's punishment. I'm ranting about that yet you keep shoving Naofumi in the picture. Once again, i haven't read manga or ln so i don't care if they're well written. I'm watching an anime and it was definitely not written well.AzorAhai said: So many wtf's in a single comment. First of all "it didn't go the way you wanted" has nothing to do with anything at all! Second, you reply to ME and state I'm just writing a biased opinion and i should "Just forget about it and think about it the next day BUT MORE RATIONALLY". If you don't think that's personal, i don't know what is. If you think what I wrote is a personal attack, you are the only one lacking in social skills. I'm talking as one who as done the same thing as you, can't see how I am offending you but ok... AzorAhai said: Re-read your first sentence mate, you say my opinion is biased and then say "This ending was well written I must say". So my opinion is biased, but your is not. THE fact is you simply had to post counter-arguments instead. I'm saying that the writing is bad and say why. Let me just copy/paste a reply to another user: The story spares evil character like Malty for the sake of plot-convenience and nothing else. It's unrealistic since Malty having a royal blood is enough reason to keep her locked up or dead. It is insanely stupid to let her roam free just because she has a silly name now, and because she was stripped of power. Malty, as a person is still too dangerous and everyone just laughs about the said danger. As someone who read the novels posted to me, Malty manages to FK things up for others in the future, so have it. Nice writing - the author basically plot-armors a villain to have her fk things up in the future. A cheap way to make the story longer. Whenever does this makes something biased "This ending was well written I must say", the ending was written to match with Naofumi characterization, it was not written by me, as I said the premise has always been Naofumi cooping with his anger. It's a fact, one that you just don't like. You can't just conveniently pick things that other users write, just cause they align somewhat with what you think and you picked a bad example at that. Malty could be locked yes, but she can't be killed since she's still the King and Queen daughter, she still has political value, she can be used and will be used in the future. Something that user just forgot to mention it to you. In history Kings don't kill their sons and daughters for their mistakes, they can't do it publicly. It gives monarchy a bad name and masses start to question the kings authority, they cover the whole thing up and exiled them or other nobles assassinate them. Melty has as much plot armor as any of the side characters and main characters, since none have died. Have you wondered that she might still die in the future? |
AzorAhai said: Snaita said: dude i watch only anime so it made 0 sense why queen would propose death sentence. As someone mentioned in manga or ln queen refuses naofumi's offer to kill the two. In anime we don't even get info onto why the queen doen't want to kill the two. We have a false impression of a monarch doing her duty, but turns out she just gambled. Shitty writing, at least in anime, and what's with you and your "the story is about Naofumi cooping with his anger"? Just forget about Naofumi for a second please and think about queen's decision and Malty's punishment. I'm ranting about that yet you keep shoving Naofumi in the picture. Once again, i haven't read manga or ln so i don't care if they're well written. I'm watching an anime and it was definitely not written well.If you think what I wrote is a personal attack, you are the only one lacking in social skills. I'm talking as one who as done the same thing as you, can't see how I am offending you but ok... Whenever does this makes something biased "This ending was well written I must say", the ending was written to match with Naofumi characterization, it was not written by me, as I said the premise has always been Naofumi cooping with his anger. It's a fact, one that you just don't like. You can't just conveniently pick things that other users write, just cause they align somewhat with what you think and you picked a bad example at that. Malty could be locked yes, but she can't be killed since she's still the King and Queen daughter, she still has political value, she can be used and will be used in the future. Something that user just forgot to mention it to you. In history Kings don't kill their sons and daughters for their mistakes, they can't do it publicly. It gives monarchy a bad name and masses start to question the kings authority, they cover the whole thing up and exiled them or other nobles assassinate them. Melty has as much plot armor as any of the side characters and main characters, since none have died. Have you wondered that she might still die in the future? Come on you can't expect the Queen to be "perfect" there's not one perfect character in this anime. She would never kill her daughter, it was inferred before that she was a just and kind ruler... She making an offer of exchanging her life for a life is equivalent with her character(excluding the King since he was played by the church and his daughter, shouldn't be put to death) |
Huex3 said: Blaze35 said: @Huex3 to be honest she was better dead than alive at that point. At least she hasn't been resurrected 8 times in the LN (unlike the web novel version when she did). Also wasnt that part with the faubly king only in the web novel version? I don't remember that part being present in the LN to be honest. Faubley king wanting Myne is still on the LN. It's one of those stuff in a story that you can't change else the story breaks. The part about Myne getting sent to him for her "punishment" is not in the LN though. Good, good! I was worried she would get off easy. Now I'm relieved. Thank you. Also, first post! |
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| @Snaita Come on you can't expect the Queen to be "perfect" there's not one perfect character in this anime. She would never kill her daughter, it was inferred before that she was a just and kind ruler... She making an offer of exchanging her life for a life is equivalent with her character(excluding the King since he was played by the church and his daughter, shouldn't be put to death) I never said i expected Queen to be "perfect", nor do i expect others to be perfect. Most - well written - stories don't have perfect characters in them, that's what makes it more believable. You say she would never kill her daughter, BUT, using ANIME as the only source (excluding LN, manga), the Queen DID seem like a type of character who would have killed her - as a Queen, but would rather spare her as a mother. She seemed like a character with balls, who takes the role of Queen above the role of mother; because of RESPONSIBILITIES and shit. If she would NEVER kill her daughter, it makes 0 sense to why she, ON HER OWN, would propose death sentence to Naofumi and then to the entire kingdom or the capitol or whatever! The only way i can redeem this character now is if we later find out that the Queen actually manipulated Naofumi into thinking that she's just a poor-sobbing woman who doesn't want to kill her daughter, but has to, unless Naofumi intervenes. Naofumi felt sorry for the Queen and intervened. What Naofumi doesn't know though is that the Queen was also planning on using a "dirty trick" such as threatening to end her own life had he stayed AFK. I'm sure if it were to come to that, Naofumi would have to agree to HER terms, since she saved his life in the last battle + he's not that heartless... Naofumi fell for the bait, and the queen's scheme worked. Now that would save the story from being below average. But the witting in this anime proved so brainless that it will most likely not go that path. Imagine the confusion in people who have no reason to doubt the queen is serious on her intent to kill her family, only to see her weeping and begging shield hero for mercy - moments after she showed her cold determination to be a JUST ruler to the end and see heads flying; strict, even towards the family. That would have destroyed her character and make her scheme RETARDED, since she was the ONE who initiated the execution to begin with so WTF? It's like she cut the branch she was sitting on! Even the masses would lose faith and respect towards her, so why the hell would she even propose something as stupid as death sentence. (once again, it all makes sense ONLY if we consider that she simply made a scene and was 99% sure Naofumi would save her ass!) You see now why it doesn't make sense and is a shitty writing? In manga it makes sense since the queen tells Naofumi RIGHT AWAY that she's NOT going to kill the two, and proposes alternative punishment instead. For me, as only Anime viewer, the queen's decision in the entire 21 episode is retarded. It downgrades characters and the story. - For a moment everyone wants to see blood, and a seconds later they all laugh and are ok with shaming. W T F?! |
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AzorAhai said: @Snaita Come on you can't expect the Queen to be "perfect" there's not one perfect character in this anime. She would never kill her daughter, it was inferred before that she was a just and kind ruler... She making an offer of exchanging her life for a life is equivalent with her character(excluding the King since he was played by the church and his daughter, shouldn't be put to death) I never said i expected Queen to be "perfect", nor do i expect others to be perfect. Most - well written - stories don't have perfect characters in them, that's what makes it more believable. You say she would never kill her daughter, BUT, using ANIME as the only source (excluding LN, manga), the Queen DID seem like a type of character who would have killed her - as a Queen, but would rather spare her as a mother. She seemed like a character with balls, who takes the role of Queen above the role of mother; because of RESPONSIBILITIES and shit. If she would NEVER kill her daughter, it makes 0 sense to why she, ON HER OWN, would propose death sentence to Naofumi and then to the entire kingdom or the capitol or whatever! The only way i can redeem this character now is if we later find out that the Queen actually manipulated Naofumi into thinking that she's just a poor-sobbing woman who doesn't want to kill her daughter, but has to, unless Naofumi intervenes. Naofumi felt sorry for the Queen and intervened. What Naofumi doesn't know though is that the Queen was also planning on using a "dirty trick" such as threatening to end her own life had he stayed AFK. I'm sure if it were to come to that, Naofumi would have to agree to HER terms, since she saved his life in the last battle + he's not that heartless... Naofumi fell for the bait, and the queen's scheme worked. Now that would save the story from being below average. But the witting in this anime proved so brainless that it will most likely not go that path. Imagine the confusion in people who have no reason to doubt the queen is serious on her intent to kill her family, only to see her weeping and begging shield hero for mercy - moments after she showed her cold determination to be a JUST ruler to the end and see heads flying; strict, even towards the family. That would have destroyed her character and make her scheme RETARDED, since she was the ONE who initiated the execution to begin with so WTF? It's like she cut the branch she was sitting on! Even the masses would lose faith and respect towards her, so why the hell would she even propose something as stupid as death sentence. (once again, it all makes sense ONLY if we consider that she simply made a scene and was 99% sure Naofumi would save her ass!) You see now why it doesn't make sense and is a shitty writing? In manga it makes sense since the queen tells Naofumi RIGHT AWAY that she's NOT going to kill the two, and proposes alternative punishment instead. For me, as only Anime viewer, the queen's decision in the entire 21 episode is retarded. It downgrades characters and the story. - For a moment everyone wants to see blood, and a seconds later they all laugh and are ok with shaming. W T F?! As I said before the Queen is regarded as kind too in the anime, not only having a set of big balls. I don't think she would beg to Naofumi, she would ask him one sidely to spare the other two and proceed to kill herself promptly so he wouldn't have the time to refuse hence the knife. If she was going to beg there was no need for a knife... They could have gone too the way of the manga, but I think both ways work. The thing about people wanting to see blood and then they laugh, it's on Naofumi he was the victim and decided that was the punishment, so no one can oppose his decision. If this was Akame ga Kill it would make sense a blood bath, but here not a single side or main character has died yet. |
| @Snaita As I said before the Queen is regarded as kind too in the anime, not only having a set of big balls. I don't think she would beg to Naofumi, she would ask him one sidely to spare the other two and proceed to kill herself promptly so he wouldn't have the time to refuse hence the knife. If she was going to beg there was no need for a knife... They could have gone too the way of the manga, but I think both ways work. The thing about people wanting to see blood and then they laugh, it's on Naofumi he was the victim and decided that was the punishment, so no one can oppose his decision. If this was Akame ga Kill it would make sense a blood bath, but here not a single side or main character has died yet. You seem to be skipping the following over and over again. Why did the Queen even propose death sentence if she would NEVER do it?!!!! You don't THINK she would beg lol? In the anime here's the direct quote (Queen to Melty): "I was going to offer up my life and beg him to spare theirs" This happens on 21:33 minute mark - So she WAS going to beg, and that would have been RIDICULOUS and STUPID, and confuse a lot of people, and make 0 sense! Why was there no need for a knife man?! Can't think of anything like using a knife to threaten to cut her own throat or an artery maybe? she was going to beg, and knife was there in case if Naofumi be like "ok, then kill yourself and i'll spare theirs". Knife was there because she'd kill herself with it OBVIOUSLY, but before that she'd most likely put it up against own throat and guilt-trip Naofumi or persuade him to spare the two. You also forget that NAOFUMI was HARDLY the only victim and people were quite bloodthirsty, wanting to see some heads roll. IT'S insane for an angry populace to suddenly all laugh and be content with shaming. It makes sense ONLY if people are all liars and since nobody was actually hurt, they're all like "ok, whatever i guess...!" and that is bullshit as well! |
AzorAhai said: Disappointment, outrage, disbelief is what i felt. WTF? So the series went all "child-friendly" again and showed us again how author lacks BALLS to do something mature and realistic! Another disappointment that is too stupid EVEN for a piece of fiction! Malty crimes: -accuses hero of rape. -tries to get a hero (and whoever's in his party) assassinated -tries to assassinate her own freaking sister PERSONALLY. A sister who's a freaking princess and an hair to the throne - HOLY SHIT! that alone is enough reason for a death sentence! -countless cases of her abusing her powers as a royalty that leads to countless civilian deaths, suffering, people losing money, homes and so on. WTF MAN? And even shield hero, a person who was ruthless even towards people who showed kindness towards him, was now all like "yeah, whatever...water under the bridge i guess" How can you not hate the writing in this show at this point? Malty's Punishment: Getting called a slut for the rest of her life and losing all the titles. Also getting laughed at by commoners. NOT EVEN A LIFE SENTENCE! THAT'S IT? WTF? And the queen was even going to beg Naofumi for their lives, by going as far as taking HER OWN?! How dumb and immature are these people and the story? How did she even become so powerful if she's so damn WEAK when it comes to being responsible AND A leader?! This is a perfect example of corrupt and shitty government with incompetent and irresponsible leaders placing THEIR needs above others. IF SHIELD HERO had brains and BALLS, he'd accuse the queen of abusing her power and thinking the royal blood is ABOVE THE LAW, but guess she saved his life so WHATEVER! Malty almost killed your precious second daughter who's THE ONLY ONE truly capable of managing a country, and you're going to gloss over that fact entirely?! Oh she's still a mother who doesn't want her daughter killed? WELL BOOHOO, justice HAD to be served, FK your feelings. 90% cases no matter how cruel and evil a child is, a mother is most likely going to still protect him/her, but we don't give a shit; if the damage is done, there has to be a PROPER punishment! Anyone still caring about JUSTICE in that country? Nobody worrying that for the same crime OTHER people would get slaughtered on the spot most likely without trial? The punishment should have been death or LIFE TIME IN PRISON AT LEAST!!! In the end what do we get? Malty was lying to the very end and kept using her "i'mma poor innocent woman" despite getting exposed. At this point no one should feel sorry for her since, as the saying says, "only the grave will make her change"; so who feels sorry for her in the end. Her mother, sister and the Shield hero who got hit the most yet still felt EMPATHY towards her and was CONTENT on making her a CLOWN! wow... Queen, who has to be a symbol of a nation, was still going to be just a whiny mother begging a police officer not to shoot her daughter, despite her daughter firing several shots at the said police officer and even at one of the family members! Melty who heard her sister shamelessly admitting she wanted to kill her and take the throne, is also FINE with Malty getting spared. Because being blood related is above everything i guess. The freaking crowd, who LITERALLY moments ago (before Naofumi enters the scene) thirsted for Malty's blood, SEEM OK with her getting spared and just laugh it off! H O L Y S H E E E T. How many times in history, just being a BASTARD of a royalty was not something to gloss over. You telling me, someone as manipulative as Malty, would just be a "slut" adventurer and no one would worry her one day showing up with an army of another nation and fighting for the throne again or just burning shit for the sake of revenge?! I don't know man...IF the show was dumb before, it went full retard now! Congrats! The Queen is a mother and wife, no matter what she still loves them regardless, but as queen was ready to take drastic measures, which is what she did, in the end, putting her life at risk can be considered one, since regardless, she would be taking responsability for it, as the ruler of the kindgom. Naofumi wanted them dead much more in the LN, he didnt intervene like on the anime, also killing bitch and trash would have repercutions inside the kindgom, it is not like they are commoners, their sins aside, many of the nobles would have risen against the queen if she had really killed them both, it would bring up more problems. Also being called Bitch for the rest of her life, for the personna that Malty is almost as worst as death... she never learns though, trash eventually comes to regret his decisions, but bitch never does, and really has a very pathetic future ahead of her (the days of her being a BITCH, are still not finished). |
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Playcool said: AzorAhai said: Disappointment, outrage, disbelief is what i felt. WTF? So the series went all "child-friendly" again and showed us again how author lacks BALLS to do something mature and realistic! Another disappointment that is too stupid EVEN for a piece of fiction! Malty crimes: -accuses hero of rape. -tries to get a hero (and whoever's in his party) assassinated -tries to assassinate her own freaking sister PERSONALLY. A sister who's a freaking princess and an hair to the throne - HOLY SHIT! that alone is enough reason for a death sentence! -countless cases of her abusing her powers as a royalty that leads to countless civilian deaths, suffering, people losing money, homes and so on. WTF MAN? And even shield hero, a person who was ruthless even towards people who showed kindness towards him, was now all like "yeah, whatever...water under the bridge i guess" How can you not hate the writing in this show at this point? Malty's Punishment: Getting called a slut for the rest of her life and losing all the titles. Also getting laughed at by commoners. NOT EVEN A LIFE SENTENCE! THAT'S IT? WTF? And the queen was even going to beg Naofumi for their lives, by going as far as taking HER OWN?! How dumb and immature are these people and the story? How did she even become so powerful if she's so damn WEAK when it comes to being responsible AND A leader?! This is a perfect example of corrupt and shitty government with incompetent and irresponsible leaders placing THEIR needs above others. IF SHIELD HERO had brains and BALLS, he'd accuse the queen of abusing her power and thinking the royal blood is ABOVE THE LAW, but guess she saved his life so WHATEVER! Malty almost killed your precious second daughter who's THE ONLY ONE truly capable of managing a country, and you're going to gloss over that fact entirely?! Oh she's still a mother who doesn't want her daughter killed? WELL BOOHOO, justice HAD to be served, FK your feelings. 90% cases no matter how cruel and evil a child is, a mother is most likely going to still protect him/her, but we don't give a shit; if the damage is done, there has to be a PROPER punishment! Anyone still caring about JUSTICE in that country? Nobody worrying that for the same crime OTHER people would get slaughtered on the spot most likely without trial? The punishment should have been death or LIFE TIME IN PRISON AT LEAST!!! In the end what do we get? Malty was lying to the very end and kept using her "i'mma poor innocent woman" despite getting exposed. At this point no one should feel sorry for her since, as the saying says, "only the grave will make her change"; so who feels sorry for her in the end. Her mother, sister and the Shield hero who got hit the most yet still felt EMPATHY towards her and was CONTENT on making her a CLOWN! wow... Queen, who has to be a symbol of a nation, was still going to be just a whiny mother begging a police officer not to shoot her daughter, despite her daughter firing several shots at the said police officer and even at one of the family members! Melty who heard her sister shamelessly admitting she wanted to kill her and take the throne, is also FINE with Malty getting spared. Because being blood related is above everything i guess. The freaking crowd, who LITERALLY moments ago (before Naofumi enters the scene) thirsted for Malty's blood, SEEM OK with her getting spared and just laugh it off! H O L Y S H E E E T. How many times in history, just being a BASTARD of a royalty was not something to gloss over. You telling me, someone as manipulative as Malty, would just be a "slut" adventurer and no one would worry her one day showing up with an army of another nation and fighting for the throne again or just burning shit for the sake of revenge?! I don't know man...IF the show was dumb before, it went full retard now! Congrats! The Queen is a mother and wife, no matter what she still loves them regardless, but as queen was ready to take drastic measures, which is what she did, in the end, putting her life at risk can be considered one, since regardless, she would be taking responsability for it, as the ruler of the kindgom. Naofumi wanted them dead much more in the LN, he didnt intervene like on the anime, also killing bitch and trash would have repercutions inside the kindgom, it is not like they are commoners, their sins aside, many of the nobles would have risen against the queen if she had really killed them both, it would bring up more problems. Also being called Bitch for the rest of her life, for the personna that Malty is almost as worst as death... she never learns though, trash eventually comes to regret his decisions, but bitch never does, and really has a very pathetic future ahead of her (the days of her being a BITCH, are still not finished). Will we ever learn why she is being such a bitch in the first place? You can spoil me pls |
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Blaze35 said: Shicchi said: Will we ever learn why she is being such a bitch in the first place? You can spoil me pls Ah I see... that's too bad. Tbh watching the show I just can't stand the characters especially the villains and everyone other than the MCs tbh. I thought they will get better later. Thanks anyway! :DD |
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| @Playcool also killing bitch and trash would have repercutions inside the kindgom, it is not like they are commoners, their sins aside, many of the nobles would have risen against the queen if she had really killed them both, it would bring up more problems. |
AzorAhai said: @Playcool also killing bitch and trash would have repercutions inside the kindgom, it is not like they are commoners, their sins aside, many of the nobles would have risen against the queen if she had really killed them both, it would bring up more problems. It makes sense, she knows they deserve it, and as a ruler, she cant really let this be forgiven, but she also loves them, it is a battle between logic and emotion, what is the doubt here? As for why they deserve to be senteced, all their crimes and sins where explained, everything pilled up warrented them a death sentence, she was just making her duty as the ruler on top, what had to be done, but underneat she was letting her emotions win, which is why she was prepared to take responsability, spare their life and take the blame herself as the one that wasnt able to stop all that occured from happening. Again, it makes sense, we are talking about human emotions where, what did you expect? |
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-Aincrad- said: IMO this anime is absolutely amazing, it's already one of my favourites! I love everything about it, and there wasn't a single episode I didn't enjoy Waiting for angry replies from haters trying to convince me why this show is bad. not a surprise coming from a person nicknamed after SAO xd |
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AzorAhai said: Disappointment, outrage, disbelief is what i felt. I agree with you, however if the anime doesn't trip on it's self in these last 4 ep, I plan on giving it an 8/10. But you have a big glaring point, so if the last episodes give me at least one of three things I might rate it even higher. 1. Have a companion of the protagonist die, or sacrifice himself in some way. 2. The protagonist getting some action (sexual) 3. A good backstory, the mc's or someone interesting, since I wasn't impressed with Raphtalia's and it's sad that we only got her backstory. Now I just have to pray that these last episodes don't bore or worse piss me off, since I have the bad habbit of lowering the score of an anime if it pisses me off. |
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| Mainly disappointment. The anime built up that the entire kingdom hates Naofumi due to Malty's accusation. Then we spend time looking at Naofumi's hardships and him slowly gaining respect among people. It would have been more fitting if Naofumi was directly responsible for clearing his name and showing the people that Malty was lying. But we get queen suddenly appearing and doing that job for him. That makes me feel that everything that happened between episode 4 and episode 21 were pointless. Also it looks like the alteration to Naofumi's character made by the anime is going to backfire in the future episodes. The people he is angry with already got the punishment that he wanted. It means there is no more reason for his rage shield to be activated. It is going to look dumb if he uses rage shield again. |
TheoPKTNS said: -Aincrad- said: IMO this anime is absolutely amazing, it's already one of my favourites! I love everything about it, and there wasn't a single episode I didn't enjoy Btw if this is the best reply you could come up with, I really feel sorry for you Waiting for angry replies from haters trying to convince me why this show is bad. not a surprise coming from a person nicknamed after SAO xd actually, I've been using this nickname for years on different sites/games, and I only started watching anime in September last year. I've heard this name somewhere a long time ago and I liked it, so I started using it, I had no idea it's from an anime |
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| @AzorAhai , I wanted to write similar post to yours, but there is no need. I fully agree with you. This episode was a huge disappointment. What we've got was an episode looking like a final one that many of us have been waiting for since this show began airing. And we've got something like this. No need to add more than you've already written, mate. Or nah, I will point out one thing: it's been a while since I saw something so naive pretending to be serious. Am I to believe that all those efforts made by Myne and King against Shield Hero (propaganda, bribes etc.), crimes against citizens and demolishing huge part of the country (burning up a forest, in example) and attempts to kill the legal heir to the throne (that goes only for Myne, 'cause her father did not know about it), worth of convicting to slow death in agony, were just changed into "hehe offensive names durr"? That one act of forgiveness changed maybe not only Queen's will (secretely in her hear she wanted it to happen), but affected law system and changed attitude of crowd from bloodthirsty screams into laughing off about new names of former royals? What's more, Queen left them go, and by that she created potential enemies (if Myne lied to the end, then I doubt she will leave her plans of becoming an only ruler; King's pride is wounded as well). This show was naive, I won't deny it, but this episode presented naiveness at its peak, lol. I didn't expect this show to have mature plot or something, but content as presented in episode 21 is in some moments illogical to verges of absurd. As for the question asked in this thread's title, I dunno to be frank. Perhaps we will have more dull adventures, fighting with waves and maybe more naiveness when political-themed elements will return (I say it as anime-only viewer, by the way). |
AdnashJun 4, 2019 5:30 PM
Playcool said: No it doesn't make sense. The queen pretty much gambled EVERYTHING, her power, her image, even her own life, and for what? For the people who she "loves"? Those same people nearly killed her daughter (melty), conspired behind her back, caused enormous damage to the nation, the heroes, and the people. EVEN if we are to say "fuck it!" and close our eyes on those crimes, the QUEEN is still the ONE, who came up with "i'm definitely gonna chop their heads off!" proposal. IT MAKES NO SENSE for her to MAKE IT SEEM, like she WOULD kill the two, since she was NEVER actually planning for that to happen!!! That's ridiculously stupid writing. The Queen basically has to suck Naofumi's D, because if not for Naofumi, she would have embarrassed herself NATIONWIDE, and would look like a brainless moron with no real authority! I'm sure, Naofumi would not accept queen giving her life in order to save the two morons, but can you imagine yourself as literally ANYONE, but Naofumi looking at this circus that was the episode 21, and wonder WTF you just saw! You, listen how the queen brings light to the crimes her family committed, she, without remorse, coldblooded, sentences the two of her own family to death! She doesn't seem like a woman who lets emotions reign over JUSTICE! and then, as the heads are about to fly, the same cold, ruthless Queen you adore for having balls to go that far for the sake of justice, country and people, suddenly stops the execution and starts crying and begging Naofumi to spare the lives of the GUILTY imbeciles she HERSELF detained, judged and sentenced to death!!!!!! WTF?! Woun't you be confused to WHY she'd make such a DRAMATIC change??? It would make sense if ANYONE but the QUEEN sentenced the two to death. It would make sense if Naofumi were to be one to sentence the two to death, only for him to later realize how that decision would harm the queen, thus, at the last moment choose to humiliate them instead - thus pitying the queen. But the bullshit we saw here, made 0 sense and belongs in a dumpster! Atrocious writing! It's amazing how people can still defend this... AzorAhai said: @Playcool Then there is ABSOLUTELY no sensible reason to why QUEEN would propose death sentence to Naofumi, ON HER OWN, and LATER even make it PUBLIC - only for her to be so against it. Doesn't she know she's basically shooting herself in the foot at this point? I understand why you people say she wouldn't kill, but none has explained why the queen's decision to kill the two (in the first place!) isn't a shitty writing? It makes sense, she knows they deserve it, and as a ruler, she cant really let this be forgiven, but she also loves them, it is a battle between logic and emotion, what is the doubt here? As for why they deserve to be senteced, all their crimes and sins where explained, everything pilled up warrented them a death sentence, she was just making her duty as the ruler on top, what had to be done, but underneat she was letting her emotions win, which is why she was prepared to take responsability, spare their life and take the blame herself as the one that wasnt able to stop all that occured from happening. Again, it makes sense, we are talking about human emotions where, what did you expect? |
| The anime kinda butchers the characters (not only the Queen, but literally everyone else as well), tbh, they changed a whole lot of things from it's manga and LN versions and it certainly was nearly never for the best. At this point I only enjoy the show to see the characters I love from the LN to be animated and that's it. Ep 22 again had chnages and I don't understand why they were needed at all, it's confusing me a whole lot. |
| I like it honesty. I think it is a pretty good show but not a great show. I feel what holds it back is how they frame Naofumi as the perfect hero when he has fucked up a little than the others. I don't like how they go out of the way to make everyone else besides his party and a few others shitty and him the saint. They do nothing wrong. I have been checking in what got cut and feel there were some scence that they should have added in to make Naofumi not come off like this egomaniac with a shield who is only better than the other three heroes because he knows not to treat it like a game. And they tell me anime Naofumi is nerf compared to light novel Naofumi when I think he is a little mroe reasonable there and not a massive jackass like he is in the show sometimes. Either way, it's a good show and I am happy I can call someone in the show Bitch and not look like an asshole. |
| I got a Masters degree. I don't have to worry bout school anymore. |
Huex3 said: Faubley king wanting Myne is still on the LN. It's one of those stuff in a story that you can't change else the story breaks. The part about Myne getting sent to him for her "punishment" is not in the LN though. So it's only threatened but she's not really been sent for punishment? Ugh. |
| If music be the food of love, play on. |
She's really grown up by lots.~  |
 サディスティックな考え "JUST KILL ME." サディスティックマインド |
| Well after this recent episode, I can safely say that this show is kinda garbage in almost every way, except music, and animation. |
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zaverix said: They are fiercely arrogant, narcissistic people. The things they cherish the most are wealth, power, and respect. This punishment took away all three of the things that give their lives meaning. They are no longer royalty --> Strips them of their vast wealth Their rank was stripped --> Strips them of their power/influence New Names --> Strips them of any chance of acquiring respect in their new lives These embarrassing names will a constant reminder to themselves and to everyone they encounter of their crimes and their shame. They will forever be a laughing stock. With names like those it holds the two part purpose of never allowing them the opportunity to regain power (who would respect or follow or even take them seriously) as well as ensuring the passing of time doesn't allow for them to regain power either (time won't make people forget as there is a constant in-your-face reminder every time you have to interact with them.) This is 100% correct. |
| lmao i already gave up on the show after episode 5.. and after the 16th episode i couldn't even bear to watch any further ... |
TheDiabolicEsperJun 7, 2019 4:27 AM
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Huex3 said: I think you're misunderstanding. She wasn't sent to the punishment because at that point she's missing. She's escaped and is currently in hiding. They don't know where she is. Oh my, I wonder what kind of end is in store for her? |
| If music be the food of love, play on. |
| Let me start with saying that I watched 5 episodes today since I haven't watched it during the last few weeks. I still have 3 eps left until I reach the most current episode. However, watching that many eps back to back made me realize even more what is wrong with this show. The pacing is incredible slow. I don't care about slow pacing most of the time as long as it adds something to the story or fits the whole atmosphere. Shield Hero is running in circles, though. Something happens and Naofumi ends up being hated again, everyone is accusing him, nobody wants to have a serious talk and all ends up in blah blah blah or chaos. This show would actually profit from a faster pacing since it feels like there's no real target right now. Yes, they need to defeat the waves and so on, but it rather seems that it's just about "How to fuck with Naofumi the best way?" and Naofumi isn't helping it with his personality. It's very exhausting and boring to watch to be honest, I feel zero motivation to keep on watching. Being that close to the end now, however, I want to see how they're going to conclude this. At first I really liked Raphtalia and was hoping for a sweet relationship between Naofumi and her, but by now it just became an unhealthy "I love being used by Naofumi" relationship. Also, most characters aren't memorable aside from being a huge pain... It sounds like I'm hating on the whole thing, but I'm really just disappointed about how this turned out as I was expecting more from it. I want to add that I love the visuals and the OST, though. |
  I will show no mercy for you You had no mercy for me The only thing that I ask Love me mercilessly |
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