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Yourmom53 said: You've been diagnosed with the chronic disability to be unable to put yourself in somebody else's shoes. My condolences to you, good sir.I said it before but compared to Raphtelia Naofumi comes of across as an emo teenager with his "hatred" than a tragic character |
| I honestly have no idea what I'm supposed to type here. *imitates an old man* "Back in my day, we used to write our names fancy when they asked our signature!" |
| Raphtalia's backstory was sad to see. Her story till now really was a hard one. She survived all that to get where she is today. Next episode we getting the most awaited character of the show? DarVox said: MrMickeei said: Right? At first I didn't notice, but then as time went by I was like, *Is that a Swedish word I just heard?*. Very bizarre indeed. Why would they even have a random Swedish song in an Isekai set in a medieval parallel world? Maybe because it sounds... foreign? I have no idea. I want to find the lyrics though, because it sounded like a lovesong or something (from the words I could hear, since it wasn't that easy to hear). Well, well, at least Sweden is getting some recognition from Japan, that is always cool. (If someone finds the song, I would be happy if you shared it, because I want to to hear how well/badly it fits with the moment in the anime). Here's the lyrics that i heard from the episode Original lyrics ‘’En annan tid, då allt fanns kvar inuti mitt bröst, det är allt som jag. Sitt fjälla fall *Character talking over the song* en polare, under din vrå och jag kan höra hur syrsan spelar. *Character talking over the song* ett annat liv, en bortglömd stad som ingen minns utom jag. *Character talking over the song* i varje träd finns sången kvar och jag kan känna hur skogen gråter.’’ My translation of the lyrics ‘’Another time, when everything were in my breast, that’s all I am. It’s scaling fall *character talking over the song* a buddy, under your corner and i can hear how the mantis plays. *Character talking over the song* another life, a forgotten city that no one remembers except me. *Character talking over the song* in every tree, the song still exist and i can feel how the forest is crying.’’ Maybe that's a poem of some sort. It really matched the scene I'd say. |
When someone asks me why I like anime, I'd say Just Because. |
| Ahahaha, the swedish song caught me completely off guard. Any info on why they picked a song like this? Väldigt oväntat, lite konstigt, men ganska coolt.  |
ZackoApr 17, 2019 11:12 AM
Zaugr said: And the MC asking for forgiveness from Ralph because "it's the right thing to do" and seemingly taking the teacher/mentor role despite not understanding any of what she or the others went through or having really any actual grasp of the situation, that's insulting (done presumably for the sake of wanking off about how "cool" the MC is and his "handle" of the situation to the audience, like with most shitty, cheap Isekai stories). And he really showed a lot of emotion for his close friend while she was in complete distress and confronting her past torturer... I don't know. I feel like most people in his position would have been uhhhh, upset or maybe angry? Good point to bring up. It really emphasizes how little development there has been of Naofumi's character, but the writing is acting like he is much deeper and more complex than he actually is. I think you're right about the motivation, Naofumi is written to be "cool" and in control - regardless of whether it makes sense, and at the expense of any emotional depth to his character. It's the same reason he always has that constipated grimace on his face. The show is pandering at this point. Any original good ideas that were there have been buried under the garbage writing. |
| I found Shield Hero to stick out in the beginning because the characters weren't always morally just all the time. It was refreshing. This episode had some development on Raphtalia indeed, and her backstory was tragic. But I just didn't find her choice interesting, because Raphtalia's choice is literally what any other cliche "good" MC would do. Well that's not the route I thought the studio would go with, I guess I just have to deal with that. |
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Antanaru said: This episode was atrocious. At first I was about to mention how God damn awful and cliche all the bullshit with Raccon Girl and Fat Bad Guy was but awful CG dinosaur sealed the deal, I'm not going to bother. Like manga, this anime started strong but is getting worse and worse as time goes. Anime is just even shittier though. I agree that this episode was just way to isekai cliche for my tastes. Not the backstory though, I kinda liked her backstory. |
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Farabeuf said: He was stabbed with the energy blade. In the manga the cut sliced on his fat belly. Either way the only damage he took was from the fall an is just a two stories mansion. You may break a bone but you will not die unless you land on your head.How did FUB survive being stabbed and falling out of a third floor window like that? Is he a demihuman of some sort too? Next episode |
nightcrawlercypApr 17, 2019 11:50 PM
nightcrawlercyp said: Farabeuf said: He was stabbed with the energy blade. In the manga he cut sliced on his fat belly. Either way the only damage he took was from the fall an is just a two stories mansion. You may break a bone but you will not die unless you land on your head.How did FUB survive being stabbed and falling out of a third floor window like that? Is he a demihuman of some sort too? What's got me more curious is the sense in those guards... It quite clearly showed three guards observing his fall and checking on him? I'd figured they'd have checked their lord's body for a pulse or some sign of life and all that before claiming death, but I guess they really just took one look at their lord-- who as you said, dropped just "two stories-- and said "yup he dead, let's abandon this place and retreat"... |
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| That was...............very depressing.....I was secretly hoping the episode would completely half-ass the backstory, too. |
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| This was an emotional episode, and yet I felt nothing. Maybe if the writer didn’t hammer down with the torture porn and cliches it could have resonated with me. “If I kill you I will be as bad as you” I hate this troupe with a passion. I don’t want death as the punishment all the time, but when it’s a generic fat xenophobic bastard with no redeeming qualities, why keep him alive? Raphtalia’s a dumbass if she thought he would atone for his atrocities. It’s cringe how the writer portrays Raphtalia as this pure, good hearted saint who encourages the poor demi humans to keep living. Also, let’s use this opportunity to wank the Shield Hero as this legendary hero who will save the demi humans, despite Edgelord Hero not initially giving a fuck about them. Of course Raphtalia’s friend wanted to marry the Shield Hero, so like any good friend she’ll fulfil her dream for her! They butchered Raphtalia’s development at the end by making and all the tramua/guilt she felt killing someone redundant with the other cliche where the generic noble summons an evil monster to kill his enemies, only for the CGI T-Rex to backfire and kill him instead. |
FlexstyleApr 17, 2019 2:12 PM
| Showing how much you have grown as a person was an effective way of showing how much better than Raphtalia was compared to the scumbag. Going down to the cells though must have been pretty challenging for Raphtalia though. Still her determination to overcome her past sure was impressive. The scene where Raphtalia found her friend now nothing more than bones though sure was a heartbreaking one. If anything Naofumi and Raphtalia's meeting really ended up saving both of them from the darkness of this world and allow them to blossom into hero's. The scene where Raphtalia was able to converse with her friend was a nice touch. Lol ironic in that scumbag ended up being killed by his summon karma huh. An excellent ep that while featuring only brief action was also an emotional one as it allowed us to see just how harsh Raphtalia's life and the life of her fellows was prior to her meeting with Naofumi. The pairing of the present scenes with how she acted in the past sure was a perfect combo as it showed just how much she has changed since then. |
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| I liked this episode. I didn't expect much, but it turned out rather well. Naofumi actually showing some kind of pride in being a Shield Hero was interesting moment too. I just wish it didn't end with some big monster battle... |
| I was actually expecting scene similar to the conclusion of "Se7en", but this works as well. Glad that Naofumi, Rapthalia and gang managed to save more demis. |
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Figurinha said: I hate the whole "If I kill you I'd be as bad as you" shit, but I guess here it makes sense since Raphtalia has never killed a person. Don't lower your standards man, that doesn't justify it at all. At least not with how they executed it. 2 minutes after not even purposefully (or even actually? he fell by himself...) killing your ex torturer and all of your friends' one torturer and murderer out of complete self-defense (because he tried to kill you again), you would not go "oh no, I'm just as bad as him now, what have I done". There's nothing about how they did this that's justifiable. SSL443 said: Zaugr said: And the MC asking for forgiveness from Ralph because "it's the right thing to do" and seemingly taking the teacher/mentor role despite not understanding any of what she or the others went through or having really any actual grasp of the situation, that's insulting (done presumably for the sake of wanking off about how "cool" the MC is and his "handle" of the situation to the audience, like with most shitty, cheap Isekai stories). And he really showed a lot of emotion for his close friend while she was in complete distress and confronting her past torturer... I don't know. I feel like most people in his position would have been uhhhh, upset or maybe angry? Good point to bring up. It really emphasizes how little development there has been of Naofumi's character, but the writing is acting like he is much deeper and more complex than he actually is. I think you're right about the motivation, Naofumi is written to be "cool" and in control - regardless of whether it makes sense, and at the expense of any emotional depth to his character. It's the same reason he always has that constipated grimace on his face. The show is pandering at this point. Any original good ideas that were there have been buried under the garbage writing. Thank you for being way more concise about it than me. It's really just standard, cliche isekai fare - sacrificing depth in order to pander and make the perfect, ""all good"", most widely relatable protagonist for those viewers who just want someone to place themselves into... And if you develop that character too much, how they gonna do that? He's basically just that standard protag who "wins the heart of every girl he comes across" by just being so different from every other guy at this point. The stuff grosses me out, but you can't really blame the authors - clearly it's successful... |
ZaugrApr 17, 2019 11:54 AM
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OG_Guts said: This was an emotional episode, and yet I felt nothing. Maybe if the writer didn’t hammer down with the torture porn and cliches it could have resonated with me. The torture porn in this episode is what I would call emotional manipulation. It's just meaningless suffering for the sake of having something bad happen to character we know nothing about and have no other reason to care for. Zaugr said: Thank you for being way more concise about it than me. It's really just standard, cliche isekai fare - sacrificing depth in order to pander and make the perfect, ""all good"" protagonist for those viewers who just want someone to put themselves into. The standard protag who "wins the heart of every girl he comes across" shit by just being so different from every other guy... The stuff grosses me out, but you can't really blame the authors - clearly it's successful... That's the kicker, people are still eating this stuff up, clamoring for stuff like Malty to be raped and so on. This is the kind of content that is popular... |
SSL443Apr 17, 2019 11:54 AM
| this show abuses justice/morality porn way too much to the point that i didn't really feel much from the backstory everything in this show feels so forced and inorganic bc they overuse the same themes over and over again really enjoyed this show for maybe several episodes but this show has really dropped off a cliff i thought it was the end for that stupid one dimension villain but he had to survive the fall and summon terrible cgi t-rex LMAO the guards said he was dead but some how he is alive derp |
| I can't make a decision. On one hand, there's a buttload of changes from the source material that made me uncomfortable, and one of them was so drastic, it was dumb as shit. On the other hand, that same dumbass decision led to the most emotionally charged scenes in the show thus far. SOMEONE HELP ME DECIDE. |
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| I'd say the build up to her death is pretty good up until she said she wanna be shield hero's wife lol |
| This was probably the best episode yet. |
Zaugr said: Probably to make Raphtalia just even more perfect (stupid) waifu-bait material. And that was fucking retarded. I'm starting to really hate this show. "Oh no I killed the person who tortured and killed my entire village, how will I ever live with myself?" Really? I'm pretty sure the one she was talking about was Rifana because she couldn't save her and feels guilty of "killing" her. Raphtalia even cried when saying those words and I don't think she would cry because of the one that tortured her. |
| Never EVER Spare a person who is rotten to the core! Or else they might retaliate, such as when the fat ass took Raphtalia by surprise and has almost sliced her down if only she was not skilled at sword fighting. Good thing this bastard fell to his death How fucking trashy can a whole damn Kingdom be? After barely surviving the first wave, the demi-humans find the conviction to rebuild their village, their lives. But oh no no no! Fucking Knights slaughtered them and sell them off as slaves and torture-dummies. The backstory is actually very solid! They way the ep handled the pieces of flashbacks and yet still progressing the present story made this backstory really good. Made me care and saddened to see Raphtalia losing her friend and breaking down for a while for not being able to do anything. This ep is really a huge step forward for Raphtalia's character development. She even got a clear goal too now, which is really exciting! Maybe Naofumi will lead an army of demi-humans in the future! Never EVER Let go if a person who is rotten to the core, even if they 'died'! Turns out the fat ass is alive and intentionally break a seal to let some dino-monster out. Only to be stepped on by it... Lol, that'll do for the weekly dose of satisfaction. |
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Groenboys said: Chill out it wasn’t that good.This is the best episode yet, if not one of the best episodes of the year, right up there with episode 11 of The Promised Neverland and Episode 5 of Mob Psycho 100. |
| Great episode again! Love how the studio enhance the back story of Raphtalia but when it comes to the scene where Raphtalia is going to slice Idol is kinda cliche. I like those scenes tbh because they have a point, the "If you kill him right now, will it satisfy you?" type of line has a really strong message. Melty realizing what's really happening in the country is really important because she can have a motivation to work hard if she become the Queen one day. |
| A really great episode!!!! Good thing that fat guy was stomped by the T-Rex but the bad thing is they have a monster to deal with. It broke my heart when I heard Raphtalia cried when she saw Rifana's corpse. |
SSL443 said: Aniteku said: I bet if keel (dog boy) was a girl all this lowly crits would be yelling "harem" all over this discussion by now as if harem anime is a bad thing. I mean it could still be a harem. Keep an open mind. VeryLTTP said: So should someone tell him about Keel's gender then? It's not like some huge plot point in the story or anything like that.Aniteku said: I bet if keel (dog boy) was a girl all this lowly crits would be yelling "harem" all over this discussion by now as if harem anime is a bad thing. They've been crying harem just because a male character has multiple members of the opposite sex in his party while ignoring the fact that harem anime involves female characters vying for the male MC's romantic affection. |
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| Apparently I'm not the only one who felt more and more...bored (i don't find a better expression) with the episodes going. The series had a nice and fresh start in a familiar setting and now it gets more and more chliched. Why the heck didn't Raphtalia stab him? It would make sense and everyone would be happy. This crap about being just as bad as the torturer is bullshit. Even more so if Karma kills the bad guy anyway. That's cheap writing. I want a story where the character makes a choice and has to live with it. Meaning, let him live and face it that he might torture again or kill him and live with it. The second major point I couldn't like the episode is a tiny little detail which ruined the whole sobbing backstory. Raphtalia tells us she can't smile like she used to and milliseconds later she smiles like she did many times before. If you have such a cruel backstory for a charakter, don't let her be so cheerful, then explain why it is that way and then show us how she gradually changes and can smile again. I also really hope they explain why everyone hates the Shield Hero and has a good reason for that other than: so Shield Hero can shine. For now it looks like this is the whole point and that would be a total shame. |
| Raphtalia against fatty was handled much better in the manga FeelsBad... |
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| That CGI Tyrannosaurus was straight out of the Rewrite anime. Gave me some serious Vietnam flashbacks. |
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| The fat noble guy was all like "nothing can stop me" and the T-Rex was like "you're in my way" I saw it coming but it was still funny |
| This, why can't we have more of this? I had given up on quality episodes that scale up to the first 4 of the series, and I had already ranted over this the last episode, but this week's episode flipped the table on me and I never saw it coming, and you know what, that's immensely satisfying, like, the show is really not all that predictable like I ranted about. I'm a bit upset that I got spoiled on what has become of Rifana-chan from last week's episode's comment section, it would have definitely got me even harder than this. I'm super happy that we got this much quality from a storytelling perspective after all this time, and would hope for the series to continue at the same pace. I hope Keel-kun gets to join the party with them, it's time we've had a dude join in, it would be cool to see his leveled up grown-up design. That psychic torture lover got what he deserved at the end, Raphtalia's sword was going to slay so!e big shots, and he doesn't have the preliminary honor to be slain by the same sword that would probably live throughout the ages and get its story told on a long term basis. “what happened to that evil chub dad?”, “Ahh, he just fell down to his death, ugh, scratch that, he got stepped on by a mosquito, the very one he helped release, one very horrifying like the CGI it was”, a lame end deserving for a lame sorry excuse for a turd. |
| They absolutely nailed the tone of this episode. It's a shame the horrible CGI T Rex think and the end was a distraction. |
| I was really hoping they wouldn't go with the " i don't not like you bullshit" , it's almost like they decided to go with the most cliche shit , and obviously after that we have to go through the " i'm a monster" "no , you're not" i've seen these so many times that i can't take them seriously anymore . and btw , what was the point of torturing these kids ? it seemed kinda pointless , other than having a sad backstory of course . |
That's quite disappointing. I only read the manga so I assumed that the LN, which the anime is adapting, had a different scene. |
| Well japan must have saddest backstories . Good episode but it was heartbreaking with that sad backstory :( :( |
mary_zervou said: Daamn.. The feels in this episode. Raphthalia-chan's cry was heartbreaking. Also I have a question. Keel-kun is the same age as Raphtalia, right? When they were kids they seemed like they had the same age. But now Raphtalia looks a lot older than him. Is it because he was malnutritioned and depressed that his growth was delayed, whereas Raphtalia had the chance to eat and train and be happy? That helped her grow faster? Did you forget that Raphtalia only grew older because she leveled up by fighting for Naofumi? Keel is still young because they never leveled up like Raphtalia did. |
| i know i say this almost every episode, but fuuuck this soundtrack is soooo good. I can just picture it over one of those old gloomy cel animated dementia anime perfectly. sadly however, this summer daydream is not reality. this ethereal soundtrack is merely the background to a overly-melodramatic character arc in an anime that has at best normal art. guh-guh-guh-gayyyyyyyyyy tis really is sad this show is so average |
| Good grief this has gone from mildly entertaining/something to watch on Wednesday to just laughably bad. Oh well I've invested 15 weeks might as well see how much worse this trainwreck gets |
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