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FreezePeach said: Not in manga either from what I remember. Adaptation has already taken liberties as is. Foreshadowing is one of them. They're likely changing the order of big reveals as well. Adds mystery to the story, but most anime onlys see it as leaving questions unanswered. Just got to be patient and finish the series before asking.Awesome episode. I don't remember the tower part in LN, is it from manga? Church has an interesting emblem, they keep throwing in little hints about the bigger picture. |
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| Pretty good direction and animation. But I still think the way the whole world conspires against the protagonist is very contrived. The "bad guys" are depicted as either incurably stupid or irredeemably evil. I'm not against shows that depict false accusation and mob mentality. I'm a fan of the 2012 film The Hunt. I have also spent a lot of time reading on the history of anti-semitism and specifically the Dreyfus affair (one of the most famous false accusation case in that history.) So I'm pretty sympathetic to the kind of resentment being represented in this anime. But I just find the way it depicts everyone else apart from those who are on the protagonist's side is very shallow. And it has only gotten worse in later development (I'm speaking as a manga reader.) Compare this to The Twelve Kingdom, where there is a great variety of nuanced ways of reacting to the unwelcome outsiders in different social contexts, Tate Yuusha paints almost everything in black and white. |
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| I wish Naofumi had let the monsters eat the Knights. It would have been quite satisfying. I have a feeling Malty is going to suffer a wicked end. Maybe not soon, but eventually. |
-Stray said: Naofumi's less broken here than in the manga, manga he was really angsty and on edge af during this wave fight, but here he's actually kinda happy he's risking his life for random people, whereas in the manga he's like this And he also got cold with Raph after their confrontation with Motoyasu in the manga while here he wasnt really that flipped off. You guys can check the spoiler imgs since its already done with anyways, just fun comparing the two. I like how they interpreted him in the anime, then. In the manga his angstiness is more annoying than actually contributing to his character. It's understandable why he questioned himself for fighting for the town, but him getting so angry on the verge of losing it is not Naofumi's personality. It's also understandable that he somewhat thinks Raphtalia is genuine, as he says "That so?" Rather than in the manga he just thinks she would cross him if she had the chance. Definitely like the anime persona more than the manga. |
SeaVee said: hahahaha putting on raincoat for oncoming flood of sjw tears.This episode has a serious moral lesson: Don't level up your loli. |
BlakexEkalb said: -Stray said: Naofumi's less broken here than in the manga, manga he was really angsty and on edge af during this wave fight, but here he's actually kinda happy he's risking his life for random people, whereas in the manga he's like this And he also got cold with Raph after their confrontation with Motoyasu in the manga while here he wasnt really that flipped off. You guys can check the spoiler imgs since its already done with anyways, just fun comparing the two. I like how they interpreted him in the anime, then. In the manga his angstiness is more annoying than actually contributing to his character. It's understandable why he questioned himself for fighting for the town, but him getting so angry on the verge of losing it is not Naofumi's personality. It's also understandable that he somewhat thinks Raphtalia is genuine, as he says "That so?" Rather than in the manga he just thinks she would cross him if she had the chance. Definitely like the anime persona more than the manga. He doesnt trust Raph as well here, tho not as straight forward and cruel as it was in the manga, Raph was asking him what happened with him and the other heroes and he thought "Even if I tell the truth, no one will believe me" As for me I prefer the manga one a lot more, it payed off with how his and Raph's relationship deepened after this events. |
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| Raphtalia promoted to slave-in-name-only, as shown by her calling the shots in the blacksmith. The fight scene exceeded my expectations (I think its presentation was more clear than in the manga, heresy, I know). I also liked how they presented the confrontation with the knights and the splinter group that came to their aid. Finally how they had Raph kinda break down at the end, showing that her scars are still there, she’s just learning to live with them. |
-Stray said: BlakexEkalb said: I like how they interpreted him in the anime, then. In the manga his angstiness is more annoying than actually contributing to his character. It's understandable why he questioned himself for fighting for the town, but him getting so angry on the verge of losing it is not Naofumi's personality. It's also understandable that he somewhat thinks Raphtalia is genuine, as he says "That so?" Rather than in the manga he just thinks she would cross him if she had the chance. Definitely like the anime persona more than the manga. He doesnt trust Raph as well here, tho not as straight forward and cruel as it was in the manga, Raph was asking him what happened with him and the other heroes and he thought "Even if I tell the truth, no one will believe me" As for me I prefer the manga one a lot more, it payed off with how his and Raph's relationship deepened after this events. That's why I said somewhat, as he doesn't fully trust her yet. I don't know how the dialogue would play out, I'll have to wait and see. |
BlakexEkalb said: -Stray said: He doesnt trust Raph as well here, tho not as straight forward and cruel as it was in the manga, Raph was asking him what happened with him and the other heroes and he thought "Even if I tell the truth, no one will believe me" As for me I prefer the manga one a lot more, it payed off with how his and Raph's relationship deepened after this events. That's why I said somewhat, as he doesn't fully trust her yet. I don't know how the dialogue would play out, I'll have to wait and see. Its not a "somewhat" he literally does not trust her, its the seal that he trusts, not Raph herself. |
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| Oh so the Wave is here now?????/ Ok so Naofumi, doesn't have any offensive weapon and is not even allowed to have one, but boy did he did a force multiplier having the towns folk fighting for him.  They had Raphtalia grew up fast.  So when will that big white chicken appear???? Ya know I'm thinking that them heroes weren't summon to fight the waves, more like this is a last man standing kinda thing, cu'z it's gonna look like that for very wave that come a newer and more advance monster would come. |
JiangHaoyi1979Jan 23, 2019 10:36 AM
JiangHaoyi1979 said: Oh so the Wave is here now?????/ Ok so Naofumi, doesn't have any offensive weapon and is not even allowed to have one, but boy did he did a force multiplier having the towns folk fighting for him. They had Raphtalia grew up fast. So when will that big white chicken appear???? With the pace its been going, around ep5 or 6 at best. |
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| I have a question for LN or Manga reader. For me the hatred the people throw at him feels extremely forced, is there a reason for them to be that mean? Especially when he is helping people it seems extremely unlikely for people to still hold a grudge heavy enough to fuck themselves over. Especially the people that know or at least are aware that he is accused without any evidence have no reason to act the way they are other than being assholes and even that should have some limits especially when it comes to live and death situation. Is there any way to explain the amount of hatred that is so far of the charts? |
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-ShadowClaw- said: Hipster-Haze said: Dang how did you get to this episode so quickly, it isn't even out on crunchyroll for me yet x.x They watch the japanese airing. Anyway i really hate that the bitch and the spear is the biggest horses ass, But i like how naufumi and rapthalia are getting along and there teamwork and battle capabilities have improved. The Action Scenes and the animation were really well made, especially compared to the standard fantasy adaptation and for once not a single monster was CGI. I really hope they keep this up. There was actually CGI with the bugs, but it wasn't that bad, tbh. |
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BlakexEkalb said: ACornelis said: Wow, this episode was so garbage. It was on the same level as Sword art Online when it comes to incompetent writing and directing. If you enjoyed this episode i really need you to watch it again and pay attention to what's going on because you clearly missed how poor and dumb it was. >Assuming your opinion is superior to everyone else because everyone else enjoyed the show Someone doesn't like a show getting popularity. Lol, what a sad and delusional interpretation of what i said. I actually enjoyed the show for the first 2 episodes atleast to some extent but this episode was garbage. |
| REVIVE MECHA |
| After horrible second episode they returned to quality of first episode. As someone who read ranobe I am pleased with this one. Also haha on idiots who think Shieldbro is harem. No girl can compete with Raphtalia and even she is in "father zone" |
| The opinions of people with shit taste, such as yourself, may differ of course. |
| how come the furi-loli is legal now?! and, in a few weeks? P.S were the 3 heroes fighting just 1 boss-lvl creature? That's so stupid, but i guess they'll get the best drop-loot, while shield hero gets common-loot for clearing out the trash-mobs... |
| MAL needs to put a pin comment for the people that keeps asking why/how Raph grew so fast that it will be explained sooner than later, probably NEP in fact. Patience people, all you need to know for the meantime is she's a demi-human, so ofc her growth rate can differ from normal humans, especially in an isekai at that. |
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| So she grew up a few years in a week. the fight against the monsters felt a little shallow for me. It didn't really excite me that much. They really do a great job at making us hate the other heroes and the whore |
| Vicious hedgehogs/porcupines, now that is scary. I liked how Raphtalia was bossing Naofumi around in the weapon shop, it was pretty funny to watch. If I was Naofumi I would have socked Kitamura, hitting him with a shield would hurt a hell of a lot more than a standard punch, all of the other heroes are scum if you ask me. The combination between Raphtalia & Naofumi is pretty incredible to watch, it's almost as if they have been fighting together their entire lives. Rapthalia is pretty impressive anyway, she was too scared to lift a blade not too long now, now she is badass. Good to see that all the villages were grateful, hopefully his reputation with the people around the world improves, he fought incredible hard. That's one wave down, who knows just how many more there are, and next time the monsters could be far worse and stronger than the ones we saw this time around. |
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ttcchen said: Great adaptation, especially like the tower part But i don't like how they didn't mention Raphtalia's appearance grows with her level instead of her age, how her actual age is still 10, and how the lion demon the 3 heroes defeated is the demon boss of the wave. Cuz the way it seems to me is that they spent their entire time fighting one single insignificant monster while Naofumi was doing so much more I don't know about the LN, but I'm pretty sure the aging part was mentioned later on in the Manga. It's clear around which scene the Anime should explain this. Not that her aging matters that much. She ages in both appearance and mentality. As for the Boss, they did mention that the Lion-Snake thing was a Boss. They didn't really go into detail of what it means, but people who played their games will know what it means and this exposition will matter more when Naofumi has to deal with a Boss anyway. In other words, another thing that can be delayed (and as any good writer will tell you, early exposition is never good for multiple reasons). |
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-ShadowClaw- said: Hipster-Haze said: Dang how did you get to this episode so quickly, it isn't even out on crunchyroll for me yet x.x The Action Scenes and the animation were really well made, especially compared to the standard fantasy adaptation and for once not a single monster was CGI. I really hope they keep this up. there was cgi on the monsters. And the monsters were mostly still frames where they were standing around. But the animation on naofumi and the girl was pretty good. |
| Really enjoyed this episode again, directing of the action scenes was top. My only gripe is still how this series deals with our hero. Maybe I wouldn't mind it to this extent if the contrast wasn't all too apparent. |
One Piece episode 914 & 915 & 1027 were a mistake and 957 brought the salvation - FMmatron |
| It takes some skill to make anime more static than manga... There was absolutely no weight to the battle. It was just some random running around and raccoon girl cleaving everything in half with one hit along with the suspension of disbelief. Shield Hero acting like a total bastard got so watered down he becomes indistinguishable from any other isekai MC. Shame. |
Ii tenki desu ne... |
| "Pretty" bad episode. The animation and direction aside... this writing is just atrocious, especially when it comes to the characters (what's wrong with that raccoon LOL). Also, that "summoning" mechanic was probably the dumbest thing I saw in an isekai anime ever. Looks like you only need in-game setting to be #1 anime in the season. And this show is average af... 5/10 |
| Things done well this episode: Raphtalia is really being done right. Right from the start of the episode with her bargaining with the blacksmith we see what is from now on her 'true' character after Naofumi's raised her - no-nonsense, thrifty, very focused on the job. She also feels very nuanced and three-dimensional. Her crying after the wave is defeated is great for showing how awful she still feels about losing her family, even though she's doing her bit now. The music was good as well I guess. Things not done well this episode: Naofumi, what did they do with you? As someone upthread said, he was a lot more bitter and angry at this point in the manga and WN. Call it angsty if you like - it was very much what defined his character at this point and it was a mistake for the anime to blow past it. With the exception of his encounter with the other heroes Naofumi just seemed blase though the whole thing. This is due to the anime skipping bits of characterisation (again, like the little exchange with the blacksmith that someone posted upthread). I was one of those that felt that the pacing was fine last episode - I don't think the same for this one. It's rushing, at the expense of losing the feel of the character. Also - that battle scene. Oh, wow. It's very hard to get pumped up for it when you have groups of villagers standing perfectly still, facing off against monsters who are also perfectly still. There was no dynamism in that scene whatsoever - it felt like the monsters were barely trying to attack, and only a threat because the villagers were barely trying to defend. This was a very bad fight scene - well animated, sure, for those bits in motion, without the CGI being jarring at all, but horribly directed and choreographed. Except when Raphtalia got involved, and we got a lovely flowing bit of sakuga that felt like all combatants were in motion for a couple of seconds. This is because Raphtalia is a ray of sunshine that improves literally everything. Also: "Men, form a phalanx!" "Ha!" "Now, immediately break that phalanx and charge!" |
Maurice_5Jan 23, 2019 11:20 AM
| Shield Hero's ED is my favourite of winter season. If there is a subtitled version of it, link me up. |
Onhel said: Meh. I'm quite disappointed by the pace of this one. There's just no hatred and anger, unlike in manga. They're trying too hard, they should keep the pace slow and steady. The emotions are pretty meh at this one. 6 / 10 I agree in the Light novel and Manga you were able to feel Naofumi's anger and hatred, the anime doesn't do him justice. |
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LavalGaming said: increase her age like an ordinary human being? Anime onlys would watch this episode and wonder why the chibi Raphtalia is suddenly a teenager when only a week has passed. They should have adapted properly and explain how demi-humans grow according to their level, not their age.ttcchen said: Great adaptation, especially like the tower part But i don't like how they didn't mention Raphtalia's appearance grows with her level instead of her age, how her actual age is still 10, and how the lion demon the 3 heroes defeated is the demon boss of the wave. Cuz the way it seems to me is that they spent their entire time fighting one single insignificant monster while Naofumi was doing so much more Well how can you increase the actual age lol. Even if she did that wouldn’t make a difference between Naofumi and Raphtalia |
Daniel_Naumov said: It is something you are supposed to get to know yourself LATER in the series. If it feels forced to you, it does not mean it is in reality. It means you now think, for some reason, it is forced. Actual, decent art addresses such concerns as the story develops, it is a generic and normal storytelling technique. If it is actually forced and is not a properly justified idea, then it is a bad example of art. But we will not know it unless and until when it is addressed. Well, lets just say that with the knowledge we have now (from the anime only) it feels forced and experience with millions of shitty isekai dictates that it never gets addressed and so stands as shitty writing. That is why I asked for clarification if there is more to it or if it is just bad writing from people that read the LN or the manga, because if the answer is non existent I can save myself some time and drop the show and don't have to watch till the end to find out that it never got addressed. |
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-Stray said: MAL needs to put a pin comment for the people that keeps asking why/how Raph grew so fast that it will be explained sooner than later, probably NEP in fact. Patience people, all you need to know for the meantime is she's a demi-human, so ofc her growth rate can differ from normal humans, especially in an isekai at that. Nah, people just need to read posts in topic and realize it's a forum, not a chat. Tho this one was hinted that it will be answered during blacksmith scene - he clearly wanted to tell him, but got interrupted. I'd say that's good way to tell "you will learn later, wait" to watchers. On the other hand some people somehow missed 3 hearoes clearly stating that the monster they fought was a boss, so I idk... OT: I liked the action scenes and big Raph is cute, but tbh I prefer loli version. On the other hand I don't like how other 3 hearoes are made to be disliked - it's too one sided for me. There should be some more hints that they aren't really bad guys (unless they are?) and just manipulated. |
| Naofumi actually ran around punching and shield bashing the mobs to draw aggro. That was a nice touch and I don't remember him doing that from either the manga or LN. I could be remembering wrong though. |
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| Good episode. I also really like the opening. Only problem I have with this series so far is the villains, who I guess are the other three heroes and that one bitch; all four of them are cliched and cartoonish to the point that I can't take them seriously. Also the monsters from the Waves appear to be nameless mobs with no personality, so the other villains in this show are terrible as well. I like the main duo, but they can only carry the show so much. |
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Daniel_Naumov said: Daemon said: Good episode. I also really like the opening. Only problem I have with this series so far is the villains, who I guess are the other three heroes and that one bitch; Bzzzzzzzzt try to guess the villains again. Protip: Villains do not drop into another world together with the protagonist. I've only watched the first three episodes so that's all I have to work with (this is ANIME discussion), and so far it's clear that the heroes and that girl in the beginning have been framed as the main villains. But if you're saying that there are other villains, then my guess would be the king and his advisers or something like that. |
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| Animation and direction arent bad, it's just weak especially when they show like hundreds of monsters spawning that end up flying/standing around it would be cool if they did a better job at showing what's actually happening on the battlefield. AoT and Kingdom do a great job at this by telling the viewer what strategies are being used and what the battlefield looks like on a map which makes the experience immersive, if future battles in this show continue to be bland there's not much to enjoy imo because the plot and characters arent that interesting I could just play some RPG game |
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