Dauphine said: Pullman said: Nice edit my friend and also I recommend you to google what a question mark means, because it does not mean a statement. But considering how yo do nothing but insult the fans of the show with your attempts at criticism, I'm still gonna go with 'irrational' here. Someone must have hurt you, otherwise that much toxic hatred towards a random show and everyone who doesn't hate it is just never justified. But I guess you should save that for your therapist, you'll need one in your life by the sound of it. Other than that, have a nice day. So that's one down, what about the rest of this thread? What gives you such a hate boner for that show to even ignore a complete thread and the questions it asks just to turn it into an anti Rick & Morty circlejerk instead of staying on topic? That's not some casual disliking, that's dedicated, burning hatred. There has to be a story behind that, I hope. Other than my weeb theory. I haven't personally watched Rick & Morty, but, i saw a picture from it, and that was enough for me to know it's just one of those gross caricatures that make up 90% of Western cartoons nowadays, it's not that i hate them because they are non-Japanese or American or whatever, they could be Canadian, French, German, Italian, Spanish etc. and i would still hated them. I hated caricatures long before i knew what anime really was, i even hate Japanese caricatures likes Shin_chan too, for example. Art style is a contributing factor, to me seeing something as a caricature and avoiding it, but not the most important thing by far, the thing that completely turned me off, a long, long time ago from modern western cartoons, is not in fact the artstyle, but the very gross, disgusting, horrible and downright repulsive "humour" and "comedy" that they employ, and then they expect me to find it funny, when all i feel like is throwing up after seeing it. It's a fact, they don't make good non disgusting cartoons like Tom & Jerry, Looney Tunes, The Flintstones, Scooby Doo, etc anymore, ever since around the year 2000, western animation took a turn for the worse, and it never recovered. I like anime because they actually have beautiful artwork and don't rely on gross humour to be funny(well, most of the time, there are exceptions of course, *looking at you Gintama*) Ahem, so that's why i'd rather 100% watch an anime with bad animation than a modern western cartoon with fluid animation. Fair enough. If you don't like crude and dark humour and social commentary, Rick and Morty is definitely not gonna be for you. Personally I love the humour, the cynicism and the creativity of the show and I have a bias for witty assholes like Rick and cool sci-fi concepts and designs, which the show has aplenty, but it's not for everyone and that's okay. I don't think you even were one of the people who randomly lashed out against the show and its fans on page 1 of this thread tho. I understand why people wouldn't like the show, I just don't understand the passionate, burning hatred that many anime fans seem to have for it and especially its fans, to the point where they can't even talk about the topic of the thread but instead just vaguely insult anyone who doesn't hate rick and morty as much as they do only because it got casually mentioned. |
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Lasroha said: Jhon_Bacon said: I know anime has a good story telling and other but the animation in most of the anime is shit. Silent voice (best),Your Name , Violet evergarden(Best),MHA are some anime with beautiful animation. And lets name some craps: Food porn: I watched a episode which was just a slideshow with 2 frame mouth animation. Gintama: Even though i like gintama i would be honest that 2018 season animation was shit compared to 2011. Tokyo Ghoul REeeeeeeee : Animation What the fuck is that? BTW i recently watched rick and morty and the animation was smooth why cant anime be like that ?????? Comparing movies with million dollar worth of budget and resources and a lot of time to work with that even won an international award with a series that is possibly under the budget and rushed by "one week one episode" deadline. Yeah, right. Try working there and see if you can do it perfectly without cutting corner or two under the strict deadline and an unforgiving committee. The point is, your examples are either a critically acclaimed movie or a Kyoto Animation's production in which if the latter was chosen, it's because they have time to improve their shit and not making show every season. If every studio follow KyoAni's path, then the term "Seasonal Anime" will be close to nonexistent. Whether it's a good thing or not, I'll leave it to you to contemplate on your own MHA isn't KyoAni tho, it's Bones. The only other noteworthy TV Studio in terms of animation quality probably. Space Dandy or Mob Psycho are other examples of fantastically animated TV shows by them. It's not just KyoAni, and it's not impossible to make seasonal anime look awesome, and Bones is prove of that. Just sayin'. |
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| It really depends on what your definition of "crap animation" really is. I've seen Anime in which people told me look phenomenal, but I didn't like the way it looked. On the other hand, I'm watching the original "Mobile Suit Gundam" series from 1979, which everyone says has "bad animation" due to its low budget, but it looks absolutely fine to me. In my opinion, whoever watched the original MSG and complained about its animation has no idea what poor animation looks like, because I've seen far, far worse. |
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Seiya said: It really depends on what your definition of "crap animation" really is. I've seen Anime in which people told me look phenomenal, but I didn't like the way it looked. On the other hand, I'm watching the original "Mobile Suit Gundam" series from 1979, which everyone says has "bad animation" due to its low budget, but it looks absolutely fine to me. In my opinion, whoever watched the original MSG and complained about its animation has no idea what poor animation looks like, because I've seen far, far worse. There's always worse but the original MSG really doesn't have good animation. Very static action shots a lot of the time and many animation techniques that involve more dynamic perspectives, camera movement and three-dimensionality didn't exist yet or were just in the process of being involved. I think this video or rather the examples it uses gives a decent overview over how action scenes looked when MSG came out and how much they developed in the few years after that. MSG has elements of both but overall is definitely more leaning to the older, less refined techniques. Zeta already looks much, much better a few years later. Animation really started to improve drastically during the 80s and the first Gundam was just a bit too early to fully profit from these developments yet. |
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Pullman said: Seiya said: It really depends on what your definition of "crap animation" really is. I've seen Anime in which people told me look phenomenal, but I didn't like the way it looked. On the other hand, I'm watching the original "Mobile Suit Gundam" series from 1979, which everyone says has "bad animation" due to its low budget, but it looks absolutely fine to me. In my opinion, whoever watched the original MSG and complained about its animation has no idea what poor animation looks like, because I've seen far, far worse. There's always worse but the original MSG really doesn't have good animation. Very static action shots a lot of the time and many animation techniques that involve more dynamic perspectives, camera movement and three-dimensionality didn't exist yet or were just in the process of being involved. I think this video or rather the examples it uses gives a decent overview over how action scenes looked when MSG came out and how much they developed in the few years after that. MSG has elements of both but overall is definitely more leaning to the older, less refined techniques. Zeta already looks much, much better a few years later. Animation really started to improve drastically during the 80s and the first Gundam was just a bit too early to fully profit from these developments yet. You've watched the 1966 Cyborg 009 movie, correct? Now, compare the animation in that to the MSG TV series, and tell me which one think actually looks bad. |
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Seiya said: Pullman said: There's always worse but the original MSG really doesn't have good animation. Very static action shots a lot of the time and many animation techniques that involve more dynamic perspectives, camera movement and three-dimensionality didn't exist yet or were just in the process of being involved. I think this video or rather the examples it uses gives a decent overview over how action scenes looked when MSG came out and how much they developed in the few years after that. MSG has elements of both but overall is definitely more leaning to the older, less refined techniques. Zeta already looks much, much better a few years later. Animation really started to improve drastically during the 80s and the first Gundam was just a bit too early to fully profit from these developments yet. You've watched the 1966 Cyborg 009 movie, correct? Now, compare the animation in that to the MSG TV series, and tell me which one think actually looks bad. Well, my point was that most stuff before 1980 looks worse than stuff that came later because a lot of animation techniques were developed or perfected in the 1980s. So bringing up an even older anime doesn't really prove anything. Doesn't mean Gundam has good animation tho, just not as bad animation as stuff that's even older, which is neither surprising nor related to my argument. As I said, there's always gonna be worse. |
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Pullman said: Seiya said: You've watched the 1966 Cyborg 009 movie, correct? Now, compare the animation in that to the MSG TV series, and tell me which one think actually looks bad. Well, my point was that most stuff before 1980 looks worse than stuff that came later because a lot of animation techniques were developed or perfected in the 1980s. So bringing up an even older anime doesn't really prove anything. Doesn't mean Gundam has good animation tho, just not as bad animation as stuff that's even older, which is neither surprising nor related to my argument. As I said, there's always gonna be worse. Well, Cyborg 009 is a movie, and movies generally have much higher budgets and less time constraints than a TV series. |
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kaleidoscope said: I think the animation of the animes you named as crap is fine. Not every studio has ufotable budget. Ufotable has an average budget though. It's just that they incorporate 2d and cgi to create a unique look. It's like KyoAni. |
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Seiya said: Pullman said: Well, my point was that most stuff before 1980 looks worse than stuff that came later because a lot of animation techniques were developed or perfected in the 1980s. So bringing up an even older anime doesn't really prove anything. Doesn't mean Gundam has good animation tho, just not as bad animation as stuff that's even older, which is neither surprising nor related to my argument. As I said, there's always gonna be worse. Well, Cyborg 009 is a movie, and movies generally have much higher budgets and less time constraints than a TV series. Yeah but at some level of oldness that doesn't really make up for it anymore and imo the 60s are that level of oldness. 70s already have some stuff with fantastic animation but in the 60s I'm not aware of anything that particularly stands out in terms of animation quality. In any case my argument was never about budget, but about MSG's animation quality being limited due to the time it was made in, which was slightly before the 80s when animation quality and experimentation started to explode. You're just trying to change the argument by getting hung up on that one example. |
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dead-eye said: rick & morty's budget was massive but a lot of it was stolen from animators by the dudes up top/in charge and forced their workers to work on barely passable wages and impossible deadlines, im sure the same sort of stuff happens in anime too can I ask you for a source on this piece of knowledge? |
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Pullman said: Seiya said: Well, Cyborg 009 is a movie, and movies generally have much higher budgets and less time constraints than a TV series. Yeah but at some level of oldness that doesn't really make up for it anymore and imo the 60s are that level of oldness. 70s already have some stuff with fantastic animation but in the 60s I'm not aware of anything that particularly stands out in terms of animation quality. In any case my argument was never about budget, but about MSG's animation quality being limited due to the time it was made in, which was slightly before the 80s when animation quality and experimentation started to explode. You're just trying to change the argument by getting hung up on that one example. No, I'd say that you aren't seeing the facts here. MSG doesn't look that bad at all, and I've even seen Anime that was much newer, that looked far worse. This discussion is over. |
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Seiya said: Pullman said: Yeah but at some level of oldness that doesn't really make up for it anymore and imo the 60s are that level of oldness. 70s already have some stuff with fantastic animation but in the 60s I'm not aware of anything that particularly stands out in terms of animation quality. In any case my argument was never about budget, but about MSG's animation quality being limited due to the time it was made in, which was slightly before the 80s when animation quality and experimentation started to explode. You're just trying to change the argument by getting hung up on that one example. No, I'd say that you aren't seeing the facts here. MSG doesn't look that bad at all, and I've even seen Anime that was much newer, that looked far worse. This discussion is over. You do know that you are one of the most unpleasant users on this site to have a conversation with, right? Your social skills seem really underdeveloped in that regard. I just made a simple, polite and concise argument, and you ignored everything I said and got hung up on the fact that MSG isn't the worst looking anime, which noone even tried to say. It's animation quality is clearly below average for the medium and worse looking anime existing doesn't prove anything. Your arguments are not arguments, it's just you being unable to see any perspective aside from your own, narrow-minded one. I'll learn from my mistake and never try to engage in conversation with you again because you clearly are incapable of participating in one in any other way than repeating your own view over and over again while ignoring anything the other side tries to contribute. Have a nice day. |
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Pullman said: Seiya said: No, I'd say that you aren't seeing the facts here. MSG doesn't look that bad at all, and I've even seen Anime that was much newer, that looked far worse. This discussion is over. You do know that you are one of the most unpleasant users on this site to have a conversation with, right? Your social skills seem really underdeveloped in that regard. I just made a simple, polite and concise argument, and you ignored everything I said and got hung up on the fact that MSG isn't the worst looking anime, which noone even tried to say. It's animation quality is clearly below average for the medium and worse looking anime existing doesn't prove anything. Your arguments are not arguments, it's just you being unable to see any perspective aside from your own, narrow-minded one. I'll learn from my mistake and never try to engage in conversation with you again because you clearly are incapable of participating in one in any other way than repeating your own view over and over again while ignoring anything the other side tries to contribute. Have a nice day. Lol, apparently someone's angry. I'm going to block you now. Goodbye. |
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| Most anime is made for japanese domestic market, which influences the budged and the style. If you compare it to, say, Disney, where they expect to get money form both US and abroad and try to cater to a lot of different audiences of course it's gonna be different. A lot of anime is made for domestic audience and even in that for a very niche group who might prefere to have some cheaply animated show every once in a while over having absolutely nothing at all. Global audiences don't bring much income to anime studios, not even when anime is officially licenced and subbed/dubbed and shown on some streaming site for paying customers. And I can't even remember the last time some new anime was shown on tv in my country, must have been Pokemon, Digimon or Moomin (which was a finnish-japanese co-production and inteded for finnish audience in the first place). This is mostly because in Europe at least, tv channels mostly think that animation is for children and should be cheap. There is nowadays many cheap 3D animations for kids that are intended to be shown in many countries and easy to dub, easy to translate bc they're in English originally and easy to sell merch to kids bc it's already part of the McDonald's happy meal. Also abt that side discussion that all anime looks the same, as a hipster anime lover I must say that pls go and watch some 80's science fiction, or anything by Masaaki Yuasa (I hate devilman crybaby sorry, but tatami galaxy for instance is very good), or the show Mononoke (not to be confused with the Miyazaki film although that is great too), or the movie Tekkonkinkreet... And also that mainstream anime varies in style too, and I absolutely love the current trend of very shiny, very glittery anime and I don't mind that it all looks the same. Of course there are trends cause everyone wants to copy the good thing and when there is one hit in the mainstream, a lot of similar shows are gonna follow. |
| >budget The budget has nothing to do with the animation. It has more to do with the staff behind said TV show/movie. |
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dead-eye said: joncjg's seemeafterclass podcast with a friend of his who worked on rick and morty (was ongoing work at the time) and has also worked on a bunch of other animations and is super aware of what was going on around him and in other movies eps 5-7 here's ep 5 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gRyi3D8DkKs the dude is Daniel laszlo thanks bro, I'll check it out later. I'm still gonna love the show but it's good to be aware of those things. |
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Pullman said: Lol people really hate rick and morty for some reason, huh? I don't think I've seen that much random aggression towards a single show since, idk, Shinsekai Yori episode 8. Tell me MAL, did Rick and Morty touch your mothers or how did it become public enemy number one? Is it just because it's a non-japanese animation that a lot of people like so weebs feel threatened because in their worldview nothing non-japanese can ever be worthwile? The hatred is so strong, it has to be some irrational reason. Why are you assuming that they hate the show because they hate anything non-japanese? And preferring anime over western cartoons doesn't make you a weeb. And in what way did they act like weebs? |
DepravedMagi said: Pullman said: Lol people really hate rick and morty for some reason, huh? I don't think I've seen that much random aggression towards a single show since, idk, Shinsekai Yori episode 8. Tell me MAL, did Rick and Morty touch your mothers or how did it become public enemy number one? Is it just because it's a non-japanese animation that a lot of people like so weebs feel threatened because in their worldview nothing non-japanese can ever be worthwile? The hatred is so strong, it has to be some irrational reason. Why are you assuming that they hate the show because they hate anything non-japanese? And in what way did they act like weebs? Once more, you people need to learn what a question mark is. I wouldn't be asking if I thought I knew for sure. I just want some explanation for why people hate the show so much they are willing to ignore the topic and derail the whole thread into a circlehate of the show and anyone who doesn't share their hatred for it. The best way so prove my 'assumptions' wrong is to just name the actual reason why they hate on it so passionately, but noone was able to do that (none of the people I was talking about at least). I'm assuming you can't either, otherwise you would have just done so instead of focusing your reply on misunderstanding the implications of a questionmark. As someone who always enjoyed entertainment from all kidns of mediums and geogrpahical regions, I've had to deal with real weebs and their glorification of japanese/east-asian entertainment over anything else and western entertainment in particular on this site for over 8 years now and one thing I know for sure is that they hate it when anything western gets praise or even gets mentioned positively by other anime fans. I suppose it feels like betrayal for them, since a lot of them are stuck in this 'Us vs them' (anime fans vs 'normies') mentality and having a broad, cross-medium taste is a foreign concept to them. The replies in this thread just perfectly fit their pattern, but ofc it's still just a theory, albeit a probable one, since there is no other apparent reason for their outbursts and as of now noone was able to provide any alternative motivation either. |
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| Bad animation? Lmao The fuck you know about good or bad animation when you have BnHA as "good." The animation in them are well done and don't really have "bad" animation. You want bad animation? Then look at shows like March Maden where the budget and issues made the animation bad and unbearable. I just see you as a bitch who wants movie style budgets on every show and movie like you know what animating means. Lmao Rick and Morty. That show is shit and ugly af. the animation is barely better than march marden, let alone near what Hajime no Ippo is. |
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Pullman said: Rick and Morty is shit though. It's plain retarded and not funny most of the time. Sure it might have some moments but it'd not really great or whatever the fuck people praise it for. Maybe you haven't considered people have watched it and though it was shit. DepravedMagi said: Why are you assuming that they hate the show because they hate anything non-japanese? And in what way did they act like weebs? Once more, you people need to learn what a question mark is. I wouldn't be asking if I thought I knew for sure. I just want some explanation for why people hate the show so much they are willing to ignore the topic and derail the whole thread into a circlehate of the show and anyone who doesn't share their hatred for it. The best way so prove my 'assumptions' wrong is to just name the actual reason why they hate on it so passionately, but noone was able to do that (none of the people I was talking about at least). I'm assuming you can't either, otherwise you would have just done so instead of focusing your reply on misunderstanding the implications of a questionmark. As someone who always enjoyed entertainment from all kidns of mediums and geogrpahical regions, I've had to deal with real weebs and their glorification of japanese/east-asian entertainment over anything else and western entertainment in particular on this site for over 8 years now and one thing I know for sure is that they hate it when anything western gets praise or even gets mentioned positively by other anime fans. I suppose it feels like betrayal for them, since a lot of them are stuck in this 'Us vs them' (anime fans vs 'normies') mentality and having a broad, cross-medium taste is a foreign concept to them. The replies in this thread just perfectly fit their pattern, but ofc it's still just a theory, albeit a probable one, since there is no other apparent reason for their outbursts and as of now noone was able to provide any alternative motivation either. |
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| Well the industry was always Vulnerable to Economic crisisses and had to endure 2 of them. That is the Reason why a lot of animation just doesn't so good now. if the early 90s crash did not happen then there would have been even better Animation now. So saying that Budget doesn't matter is only half true. Berserk 2016 had a Normal budget but the whole production was a nightmare because: - They took to long to decide if they wanted to do 3DCG or not - Their tech was not good enough for the task at hand, They tried to be like the very first Trailer that was made by Universal that looked not bad at all for an tv series. - The Director only did Fast comedy shows and thus was not experienced enough for shows like Berserk and thus Demanded the staff to Animate the stuff that they just couldn't do and wasted a second Studio on just drawing straight lines instead of helping with CG models and etc. Berserk 2016 was just poorly run. Kyoani, Trigger, Bones and such seem to handle themselves much better. Pullman said: DepravedMagi said: Why are you assuming that they hate the show because they hate anything non-japanese? And in what way did they act like weebs? Once more, you people need to learn what a question mark is. I wouldn't be asking if I thought I knew for sure. I just want some explanation for why people hate the show so much they are willing to ignore the topic and derail the whole thread into a circlehate of the show and anyone who doesn't share their hatred for it. The best way so prove my 'assumptions' wrong is to just name the actual reason why they hate on it so passionately, but noone was able to do that (none of the people I was talking about at least). I'm assuming you can't either, otherwise you would have just done so instead of focusing your reply on misunderstanding the implications of a questionmark. As someone who always enjoyed entertainment from all kidns of mediums and geogrpahical regions, I've had to deal with real weebs and their glorification of japanese/east-asian entertainment over anything else and western entertainment in particular on this site for over 8 years now and one thing I know for sure is that they hate it when anything western gets praise or even gets mentioned positively by other anime fans. I suppose it feels like betrayal for them, since a lot of them are stuck in this 'Us vs them' (anime fans vs 'normies') mentality and having a broad, cross-medium taste is a foreign concept to them. The replies in this thread just perfectly fit their pattern, but ofc it's still just a theory, albeit a probable one, since there is no other apparent reason for their outbursts and as of now noone was able to provide any alternative motivation either. Well I will Tell you why I think that many ppl hate R&M. See I think that they Hate the show because of its fanbase and nothing else. some ppl just get turned off be a bad fanbase and I have seen that happen at times. |
Bourmegar said: I can vouch that the fanbase is retarded for R&M, but that the show isn't great either so there is my two cents.... ByeWell the industry was always Vulnerable to Economic crisisses and had to endure 2 of them. That is the Reason why a lot of animation just doesn't so good now. if the early 90s crash did not happen then there would have been even better Animation now. So saying that Budget doesn't matter is only half true. Berserk 2016 had a Normal budget but the whole production was a nightmare because: - They took to long to decide if they wanted to do 3DCG or not - Their tech was not good enough for the task at hand, They tried to be like the very first Trailer that was made by Universal that looked not bad at all for an tv series. - The Director only did Fast comedy shows and thus was not experienced enough for shows like Berserk and thus Demanded the staff to Animate the stuff that they just couldn't do and wasted a second Studio on just drawing straight lines instead of helping with CG models and etc. Berserk 2016 was just poorly run. Kyoani, Trigger, Bones and such seem to handle themselves much better. Pullman said: Once more, you people need to learn what a question mark is. I wouldn't be asking if I thought I knew for sure. I just want some explanation for why people hate the show so much they are willing to ignore the topic and derail the whole thread into a circlehate of the show and anyone who doesn't share their hatred for it. The best way so prove my 'assumptions' wrong is to just name the actual reason why they hate on it so passionately, but noone was able to do that (none of the people I was talking about at least). I'm assuming you can't either, otherwise you would have just done so instead of focusing your reply on misunderstanding the implications of a questionmark. As someone who always enjoyed entertainment from all kidns of mediums and geogrpahical regions, I've had to deal with real weebs and their glorification of japanese/east-asian entertainment over anything else and western entertainment in particular on this site for over 8 years now and one thing I know for sure is that they hate it when anything western gets praise or even gets mentioned positively by other anime fans. I suppose it feels like betrayal for them, since a lot of them are stuck in this 'Us vs them' (anime fans vs 'normies') mentality and having a broad, cross-medium taste is a foreign concept to them. The replies in this thread just perfectly fit their pattern, but ofc it's still just a theory, albeit a probable one, since there is no other apparent reason for their outbursts and as of now noone was able to provide any alternative motivation either. Well I will Tell you why I think that many ppl hate R&M. See I think that they Hate the show because of its fanbase and nothing else. some ppl just get turned off be a bad fanbase and I have seen that happen at times. |
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GurrenLogann said: To be fair, you have to have a very high IQ to understand good art style.Ahh, a Rick and Morty fan, we are not worthy of your presence. Serious answer would be pointing out that there's certain things that bring animation down such as the meeting of deadlines, compensating for money shots, low budgets, etc. Most of the time i'm doing a 25/75 when it comes to reading subtitles and watching the show itself so I miss a lot of the frames that you speak of lol. |
Jhon_Bacon said: Kruszer said: Low Budgets + (Overworked Staff)Underpayed = Low Quality Animator are underpaid huh no wonder the animation will be bad. Yeah there are interesting reports you can read on working conditions for Japanese animators. Like this one: https://fast.animenewsnetwork.com/interest/2017-01-04/director-osamu-yamasaki-discusses-anime-industry-working-conditions/.110623 |
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| Try Gantz O movie and you may experience eyegasm... especially the nude multi-fems scene. The nonmovie is crap. |
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Jhon_Bacon said: Lmao your response is bad. Who said I didn't like cartoons? Only you. Have you watched cartoons like Ed edd and eddy? Johnny Bravo, flinstones, Spongebob(early seasons), and etc. I'm saying R&M is shitty cause it is.Botan-Chan45 said: Bad animation? Lmao The fuck you know about good or bad animation when you have BnHA as "good." The animation in them are well done and don't really have "bad" animation. You want bad animation? Then look at shows like March Maden where the budget and issues made the animation bad and unbearable. I just see you as a bitch who wants movie style budgets on every show and movie like you know what animating means. Lmao Rick and Morty. That show is shit and ugly af. the animation is barely better than march marden, let alone near what Hajime no Ippo is. So you are saying me bitch for just stating my opinion. You are even a bigger bitch and weeb. I bet you didn't watch Rick and morty by just looking at it art. Every Cartoon art cant be kawaiii desu like your anime bitch. |
| Yeah right there is no way a doujin about vomit exists. Good song https://soundcloud.com/yeungkakit33/op4-hekireki-last-alliance Tsumino account is BigMaraIppo Another Good Song Listen to テスト by mukami #np on #SoundCloud https://soundcloud.com/mukami/77a Ashita no Joe and Megalo box are disappointing anime. My reviews:https://myanimelist.net/profile/Botan-Chan45/reviews Best Naruto Op: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ByCNZxOBVWM&list=RDByCNZxOBVWM&index=1 discord name: Chitoge Kirisaki#9564 https://discord.gg/nGKu6zx my discord server for plebs |
Kruszer said: I wouldn't say low pay=lower quality. It's more down to newbies joining in and having to remaster the skills of their forefathers.Yeah there are interesting reports you can read on working conditions for Japanese animators. Like this one: https://fast.animenewsnetwork.com/interest/2017-01-04/director-osamu-yamasaki-discusses-anime-industry-working-conditions/.110623 |
| Yeah right there is no way a doujin about vomit exists. Good song https://soundcloud.com/yeungkakit33/op4-hekireki-last-alliance Tsumino account is BigMaraIppo Another Good Song Listen to テスト by mukami #np on #SoundCloud https://soundcloud.com/mukami/77a Ashita no Joe and Megalo box are disappointing anime. My reviews:https://myanimelist.net/profile/Botan-Chan45/reviews Best Naruto Op: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ByCNZxOBVWM&list=RDByCNZxOBVWM&index=1 discord name: Chitoge Kirisaki#9564 https://discord.gg/nGKu6zx my discord server for plebs |
Jhon_Bacon said: Nah it's a fact. It's really only funny once while. The fact that the fandom also acts like brain geniuses also makes it hard ti believe it's a great show. It's more hyped than actually good.Botan-Chan45 said: Lmao your response is bad. Who said I didn't like cartoons? Only you. Have you watched cartoons like Ed edd and eddy? Johnny Bravo, flinstones, Spongebob(early seasons), and etc. I'm saying R&M is shitty cause it is. Yes i do watch other cartoon and "R&M is shit and retarded" is your opinion not a fact. |
| Yeah right there is no way a doujin about vomit exists. Good song https://soundcloud.com/yeungkakit33/op4-hekireki-last-alliance Tsumino account is BigMaraIppo Another Good Song Listen to テスト by mukami #np on #SoundCloud https://soundcloud.com/mukami/77a Ashita no Joe and Megalo box are disappointing anime. My reviews:https://myanimelist.net/profile/Botan-Chan45/reviews Best Naruto Op: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ByCNZxOBVWM&list=RDByCNZxOBVWM&index=1 discord name: Chitoge Kirisaki#9564 https://discord.gg/nGKu6zx my discord server for plebs |
| Animation is hard, My dude. sometimes you gotta juggle the budget |
| Rick and Morty is truly the pinnacle of animation. I heard Miyazaki asked to work on it and told him no. |
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| >Names movies and shows in the top 5% of TV anime animation-wise I wouldn’t say most TV anime have “crap” animation, but the reason many anime aren’t better animated is because of time and money constraints. Production committees often want their anime now, and studios are generally given a pretty lean budget to work with. Unless you happen to have skilled animators working on the project that are passionate about it, that will translate to an average looking show. |
TripleSRankMay 27, 2018 11:32 AM
| People who are acting like eastern animation is shit or western animation is shit are both wrong. Wildly different industries. |
Stripes said: Damn #rektRick and Morty is truly the pinnacle of animation. I heard Miyazaki asked to work on it and told him no. Will Miyazaki ever recover? |
Please learn about cel animation and its technical process. Learn how special effects and backlighting were done without computers. |
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