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firemagnet said: Revvie-chan said: Oh so I was wrong. You watch quite a bit. But somehow you still complain about the horrible "directing" in Darling in the FranXX. (Especially after that long essay of yours of how you defend this anime regarding its sexual innuendos on that other thread.) Horrible directing for that particular scene, not the anime as a whole, in that the scene didn't clearly link the disappearance of Hiro's infection to past events re: Zero-Two. Makes it seem like a deus-ex-machina rather than the "transformation" it should have been. what past events? I don't think they've told us more than hinting that it's riding with 02 that causes Hiro's AIDS. Which past event do you mean? |
| Zero Two is starting to remind me more and more of Asuka (Evangelion) with each episode. Not necessarily a bad thing since I adore Asuka. But I kind of want Hiro to grow a backbone and call her on her bullshit in future episodes instead of enabling her. What made it easier for me to tolerate and sympathize with Asuka was the fact that she acted like your typical bitchy ace pilot, but she got realistic responses from everyone, including Shinji, whether that be fear, annoyance, etc. Zero Two gets called out but never by Hiro. I think it might take one of Plantation 13's pilots getting killed off because of Zero Two for Hiro to actually get angry with her. I wouldn't be surprised if that ends up happening in the near future though... |
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Caeli_No_Sora said: Zero Two is starting to remind me more and more of Asuka (Evangelion) with each episode. Not necessarily a bad thing since I adore Asuka. But I kind of want Hiro to grow a backbone and call her on her bullshit in future episodes instead of enabling her. What made it easier for me to tolerate and sympathize with Asuka was the fact that she acted like your typical bitchy ace pilot, but she got realistic responses from everyone, including Shinji, whether that be fear, annoyance, etc. Zero Two gets called out but never by Hiro. I think it might take one of Plantation 13's pilots getting killed off because of Zero Two for Hiro to actually get angry with her. I wouldn't be surprised if that ends up happening in the near future though... Nah fam he will blame himself (like he always does) if that happens |
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Hibaena said: Caeli_No_Sora said: Zero Two is starting to remind me more and more of Asuka (Evangelion) with each episode. Not necessarily a bad thing since I adore Asuka. But I kind of want Hiro to grow a backbone and call her on her bullshit in future episodes instead of enabling her. What made it easier for me to tolerate and sympathize with Asuka was the fact that she acted like your typical bitchy ace pilot, but she got realistic responses from everyone, including Shinji, whether that be fear, annoyance, etc. Zero Two gets called out but never by Hiro. I think it might take one of Plantation 13's pilots getting killed off because of Zero Two for Hiro to actually get angry with her. I wouldn't be surprised if that ends up happening in the near future though... Nah fam he will blame himself (like he always does) if that happens God, I hate that you're probably right. |
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Angel942 said: Revvie-chan said: what past events? I don't think they've told us more than hinting that it's riding with 02 that causes Hiro's AIDS. Which past event do you mean? maybe he means, the scene when hiro wakes up and understands that 02 is her wing and the tumor disappears Nah I also captured that. But he said "past events" re: (I read this as "regarding", like usual) 02. In which I said: what past events? The whole events of the previous 5 episodes? The point here is that he's blaming the directing for that scene only, while I "blame" the directing and story-telling of the series' overall. it's your usual "is it shit, or not shit?" anime discussion. ps.: tbh, there's a way bigger problem than Hiro being suddenly cured (be it temporarily or permanently.) |
| I loved this episode. The relationship between zero two and Hiro seems to be developing. They both make a cute pair. Zero two x Hiro FTW! |
| I will give this show a 10/10 if they have a gut to kill Ichigo |
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| What a fucking badass episode!!! |
| “I love heroes, but I don't want to be one. Do you even know what a hero is!? For example, you have some meat. Pirates will feast on the meat, but the hero will distribute it among the people! I want to eat the meat!” - Monkey D. Luffy |
| Lol, so he just ends up on the brink of death and somehow is able to regain strength and achieve newer heights. I didn't like the episode so much. |
shanimebib said: Epicenter said: What does that even mean? Hero and heroine literally mean the exact same thing split between male and female. I can't even be a screen time type comment since Hiro has clearly been the focus and who we stay with more. Unless it means personality/role wise together, somehow symbolically, which would kind of make sense but still a weird way to put it. Just say one provides support and the other is more aggressive. You don't have to take it with the actual meaning. Everyone knows the definition of hero and heroine. However, in classical literature Hero is considered as a character who makes things happen and Heroine is the one for whom those things are made to happen. Likening it to the fairy tales of the old, where the Prince rescuing the Princess from her captivity of some evil queen or a dragon. 002 is like Oscar who is considered a Hero character in Versailles no Bara. The emphasis is also given on how 002 refers to herself as Boku, which is masculine term and gets lost in the translations because there is no English equivalent. She is the one who offers 016 the opportunity to get out of this life inside a cage (literally and metaphorically). 016 has been this timid princess like character who is there to be married off and he was ready to accept his fate until his meeting with 002, giving him new hope and belief. The role reversal happens for a bit in this episode but it is not established yet. "002 is still the Prince (Hero) of the story, and 016 is her Princess (Heroine) in classical definition" is what Tomatsu Haruka meant in her interview. Sossig said: Run out of fuel when piloting Gundam? Use GN Drive 👌 But I did mention burst mode which is equivalent to Trans-Am. Even GN Drive cannot be unlimited source of potential energy ready to be used for indefinite amount of time, which can backfire because of overdrive/heating. :) I don't want to go off topic more than this but the level of details Sunrise/Bandai put on Gundam franchise is out of this world. Just check the video below. It just contains an insignificant fraction of all the mecha that appeared in the franchise, some even come with transformations. Compare it with the FRANXXs, and all the mecha anime out there. Considering the number of designs in all the Gundam series, I don't think the entire industry will have the same number of distinct mechas that is in the Gundam franchise alone with this level of details, functionalities that really give off the feeling of versatility of mechas. Yeah ,was pretty surprised in 02 using Boku than Watashi at first...but i guess it fits perfectly with their role with her being the dominant one in their relationship and the one showing him the path for his dormant power to surface...The role reversal should might happen when 02 confronts her darker past .. |
| [quote=MOB_ABOMINATOR It's an original anime, there's no manga so it will conclude[/quote] There is a manga going on actually,,it is not a 1:1 adaptation but follows close to the Anime BeyondTheStars said: MOB_ABOMINATOR said: I just wanted to ask does some one knows once the season ends the series will conclude as well ? Because if the manga goes on then I'm not interested in this anime. But if it concludes then i might give it a try. It's an original anime, there's no manga so it will conclude There is a ongoing manga actually...It is not an 1:1 adaptation but follows relatively close to the Anime |
firemagnet said: Revvie-chan said: Nah I also captured that. But he said "past events" re: (I read this as "regarding", like usual) 02. In which I said: what past events? The whole events of the previous 5 episodes? The point here is that he's blaming the directing for that scene only, while I "blame" the directing and story-telling of the series' overall. it's your usual "is it shit, or not shit?" anime discussion. ps.: tbh, there's a way bigger problem than Hiro being suddenly cured (be it temporarily or permanently.) To address you directly, I'd say that it's not "shit," but it's hardly a classic. The world and characters certainly aren't as fleshed out and empathetic as, say, in Re:Creators, Made in the Abyss, or Mahoutsukai No Yome; The writing of the plot thus far simply hasn't allowed for truly meaningful development, since the need to focus on the entire cast as a method of fleshing out Hiro and Zero-Two has taken away from world-building, which means that the characters are harder to invest in because we haven't yet seen why what they are doing should matter to the audience. I also agree with you re: broader problems with writing after having viewed other material, but I'll get to that later. Watching some of E;R (this guy: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC4BZtFgtCuHUt0p8J-XENiA) has helped me clear some things up a bit, particularly his critiques of Star Wars Episodes 7 & 8, as well as "Legend of Korra." Viewing his material, particularly on the spread of bad writing and mary-sue/Gary-stu characters in modern fiction has given me a new perspective on what's going on. With respect to Hiro, and the hate for him: in the previous five episodes, we are given five pieces of information about him: 1. He is considered to be a prodigy 2. He considers himself to have failed and been useless because of the incident with Naomi, reflecting his values (and Japanese cultural values) regarding merit. 3. He has been told by Zero-Two that he has "An ability" 4.He has an intrinsic "factor" that makes him stand out (episodes 2 & 3) 5.He genuinely longs to have some purpose and responsibility, and considers himself duty-bound to do what he is doing. Moreover, he genuinely questions his own worth and actions, as shown in episodes 3 & 4. However, none of these things are shown to have a direct link to this particular scene on episode 6, where what can best be described as a "cancer" spontaneously disappears from his body. Throughout the previous episodes, the audience has been shown that his pairing with Zero-Two in Strelitzia is taking a toll on him, though to a lesser extent than on Mitsuru. The audience also has the concept of the "three ride limit" reinforced. At no point, however, is the audience given any indication regarding Hiro's recovery; even the commentary from Nana and Hachi regarding his blood cell count plays into the negative consequences. So, when he miraculously recovers, it feels like an unexplained cop-out that has no precedent and simply comes out of nowhere, with no explanation other than sheer force of will. This is pretty simply bad writing and directing, and almost makes him a Gary-Stu.......which leads me to how this relates to the hate for him, and this show more broadly. Put bluntly, a Gary-Stu is exactly what Hiro's haters wanted; As E;R pointed out (and implies) in his critiques of Star Wars Episode 8, the Legend of Korra, as well as his comparison of Deadpool vs Onepunch man, there is a significant flaw in modern western heroes, as well as in Japanese anime to a far more limited extent. Perhaps as an effort to involve the audience more, the majority of heroes and heroines have become Gary-Stus and Mary-Sues to the point that this archetype is expected, almost normalized, even; it allows the audience to vicariously put themselves in the shoes of the Hero or Heroine as a method of total escape from association with real-life and regular consequences. As he also points out via Korra (and via Rey in Star Wars), these heroes and heroines are essentially adult-children in the negative sense. They: 1. suffer no consequences for their actions, and are essentially free to break the rules as they please 2. when they break the rules, they are eventually perceived as being in the right, regardless of the consequences of their actions (See 1) 3. They do almost everything effortlessly and without sufficient prior explanation, even when previous characters or heroes were shown to take years of effort. 4. Any suffering afflicting them or any consequences are usually removed by the plot within the same scene or with the span of the episode or film itself; no adversity is permanent. 5. descending from 4, these characters usually, but not always, have powers as the plot demands 6. They are usually well-liked for doing almost nothing, and they are considered to have merit simply because they are the "hero." If anyone defies the hero, they are usually shouted down or otherwise humiliated within the plot-arc. Consider the evidence: The haters, generally criticized Hiro for not breaking the rules, standing down for fear of suffering a reprimand, hated that he faced adversity in speaking up for his own desires, and particularly hated that he didn't "have the balls" to make anything with a twat his; indeed, they screamed themselves blue when precisely the opposite happened, and derided the girls as "sluts" or "that ho over there" for making their interest in him known. What I find far more disturbing, however, is what this behavior suggests; beyond the mere normalization of mediocrity by having a one-dimensional audience-avatar character simply show up out of nowhere and be validated or given authority for their ability or status alone, gifted or otherwise, (Rey, Korra, Kirito & Midoriya), we have the implication that such characters are heroic because of that inherent ability or status, and not because they actually done anything to earn recognition or heroic status. The disturbing part is that these characters and their frequency appear to reflect normalization of such traits in broader society, including a re-validation of the old Puritan notion that wealth is the ultimate indicator of merit, intelligence, and morality. To connect this back to the writing, the long story short is that Hiro was reviled because he didn't represent a specific cultural epitome of power and authority (through lack of meaningful accountability and responsibility to authority), and therefore they (the haters) weren't free to assume that mantle through him. This of course, actually makes him more human, and is actually a sign of good writing; Hiro is seen to obsess over his own purpose, has visible doubts, lies to reassure his friends, and is generally shown to be a pensive and thoughtful character who places others before himself, even though his actions are otherwise generally shown to be selfish. Where the bad writing starts is, well, with Zero-Two, who has little character beyond her rebelliousness, possessiveness for Hiro, and outright dismissal of everyone else unless they satisfy her interest. At best, the audience has received implications that this is but an act to mask a much more fragile personality, however it doesn't change the fact that at this point Fubuki of the Kancolle anime arguably had more development and characterization than Zero-Two does. Hell, even Ichigo arguably has more depth and characterization than Zero-Two, and Ichigo literally exists for the sole purpose of providing a romantic challenger to Zero-Two via the class-rep/order-keeper archetype, even after getting sibling-zoned. Another problem is that the rest of the characters are largely used to define these three, at the loss of the sense of world and gravitas. It says much that episode 5, which really allowed the characters to come into their own, was one of the best. Basically the alpha ,beta theorists ...hiding in their own little comfort zones putting up a facade of pseudo intellectualism while embroiled in a constant domineering contests with his/her peers than putting up a genuine effort to form some emotional connection between two individuals and look at them as equals ...https://m.youtube.com/watch?feature=share&v=nHd3xfDzTg8...The reason i love this vid so much... |
firemagnet said: What you said and the video... The link goes to multiple videos page, so I picked the last one about Star Wars, I quickly jump-watched, All I can say, the movie itself is bad, the video owner is nicely explaining with humor. The movie is a bad attempting of injecting comedy, Avengers style by denying many things that Force Awakens has built. For example, 'an important figure is gone without any important progressing of the story' And your writing about Zero Two and Hiro. Hero and Heroine definitions have many meanings in real world and literature. In this anime series, I know the explanation of Zero Two's and Hiro's own actions, mono/dialogues, struggles... but I will not write, because it will be pointless for now. As you implied that 'bad writing', I will wait until the series is finished, because what the writers can squeeze into 20-minute episodes. Until now, they have used the time very well, not wasting on useless scenes. Zero Two Heroine and Hiro Hero or vice versa; this is business and the project committee along with the developers may be forced to hook the audience quickly and by as much as powerful 'affection' and attachment rate due to their own business and general industry conditions, so you get characters like Zero Two and Hiro, their decisions, their gamble and their game... a 'take it or leave it' dilemma. After all we are not living in Neon Genesis Evangelion's time (90s) where writers, creators can get away with their own interesting traits and preachings, they could insert their delusions into the original work, anime,manga,game... Until now Zero Two is number one focused character, based on what the series has shown me about her until now. I want to know more about her. The second is Hiro and then Goro-Ichigo equally. Goro's character has progressed well, Ichigo's, too. None of these characters are 'normal' human, not even 'they were human at past then they got supernatural abilities', they are different from start. That's why I will hold my verdict back until the very ending. Their 'becoming' heroes' conditions and reasons are different. For Hiro, he is still hero to me; 'die as a failure byproduct or grab any hope whatever and whenever coming his way'. Actually, the other kids in the team are supposed to be heroes, saving domes from klaxosaurs by beating them with cool methods. But the enemy is so powerful, they are about to be killed, but Sterilizia comes in and saves the day. In other words, the hero is only one definition for now; Zero Two+Hiro+Franxx. Another note is that if we still want to linger around this heroism junk, they should show what Zero Two and Hiro alone and together without Franxx in such dire condition; they can be separated, they can be left without tools; will they rise up, will they quickly assess the environmental and personal situations, get the tools, fight back to the light, find each other, unite and become heroes? While they are in their own life and survival struggles, I also want to see how the team can fight and survive against any enemies. As far as I see that only Hiro is actually working on making a team out of other kids, giving a feeling of teammates, comrades, we are all friends, together we can fight...Did Ichigo do something similar? Simply no, the other kids were messy, simple that. That's why Hiro is still a hero. bakakisima said: ...https://m.youtube.com/watch?feature=share&v=nHd3xfDzTg8...The reason i love this vid so much... I don't know from which anime series, but it is so good, so right. I DON'T LIKE ANY MYTHOLOGY/CULTURAL TERMINOLOGY SHIT! I simply hate them, here I am playing FFXII, those stupid names infested everywhere; gungnir, ame murakomo, genji, leviathan, bahamut... fffxxxxx!!! long ago I watched Appleseed movie and there is a name like Briarioruswhatchamatchacallingsheeti of that rabbit ear roboman, I HATED SO MUCH! It was from Greek mythology, pathetic, simply pathetic, Japanese literature workers should stop lame trend, it is not original, not cool. If you want to make a work, like God of War series, then you can use Zeus, Kratos, but don't put those names because they are sounding cool. And the last thing;Hades... Sorry for ranting, but that video you linked have to be shown every anime. movie, video game, manga creators. Make your own cool terms and names, that is better. |
firemagnet said: Revvie-chan said: Nah I also captured that. But he said "past events" re: (I read this as "regarding", like usual) 02. In which I said: what past events? The whole events of the previous 5 episodes? The point here is that he's blaming the directing for that scene only, while I "blame" the directing and story-telling of the series' overall. it's your usual "is it shit, or not shit?" anime discussion. ps.: tbh, there's a way bigger problem than Hiro being suddenly cured (be it temporarily or permanently.) <Sorry I have to cut the long text. Since, you know, I don't want to turn the scroll bar too thin> First, let me express my heartfelt thanks to you for putting so much time and effort in writing an in-depth analysis of what you think about that part, this episode, and this series in-general. You see, MAL (just like any fan forum) often lacks... putting thought in their argument, creating a pretty cancerous fandom. Darling in the FranXX even more so. There's a little bit of a conspiracy theory that the project have acquired the services of a massive cyber army to supplement the huge amount of advertisement it already got. They do huge campaigning and anti-campaigning other series almost everywhere. I'll spare you from the detail, for it's not relevant to this discussion. But in short, I figured out that I need a quality discussion, if those fake accounts and bot-voting machine-ruled polls are to be knocked off. Let's get to discussion. Regarding Hiro: I agree with you on most part. But what I don't agree is that "should we call leaving such an important plot point a good writing?" It clearly tries to be good. (I'm a supporter of "True character development happens inside the head." Same as you, maybe?) But should we call it good simply bcs it tries? Let me remind you that it has 5 episodes to tell us that. They had ample opportunities to do so, especially since they spent quite a lot of time for battle scenes. Battle scenes that could have been used to tell us, to build into the FranXXes and why Hiro, 02, and Strelizia are special even among the special test squad. But no, they don't. They want that to be the big thing. They want that to be the main plot. (Which is why we haven't got more about 02, as well. It's plot-relevant.) In doing so, imho, they close out any room for the plot to grow, and worse, room for Hiro to grow beyond the current "I fight bcs I have 02" believe. (I wouldn't have complained about this if only this is not the 6th episode out of 24 episodes. But it is the 6th, out of 24.) Regarding the hate on Hiro: The critics people have put on Hiro so far, tbh, is a bit unjustified. It's bcs of how this series tries to picture itself as close as possible to Evangelion not only in its theme and plot, but also in how it images itself in public. Those who dislike its similarities, complain from that aspect, while those who don't dislike the similarities, funnily enough, complain about Hiro the same way people complain about Shinji Ikari: Originally a coward and indecisive, in the movie series reboot they removed that part of him a bit, creating... something that feels just like Hiro now, despite differences in personality. Including that big shiny thick Gary Stu plot armor. So... well, yeah, the hate on Hiro is unjustified. At least I think so. Nor do I hate him. (I think I've made it clear that my "attack" is directed more on the series itself.) ps. for this part: fun fact: nor do I hate Shinji Ikari, actually. I actually prefer the original one. He's a horrible person and a big big idiot, but one hell of a main character. He allows Asuka, Rei, and Evangelion series as an overall, to shine I would love to chat about Gary Stu/Mary Sue and its usage in modern literature works, but I think it's not in topic to this very thread. So... PM? |
Revvie-chanFeb 22, 2018 6:11 AM
KuromeJane95 said: Im amazed by how those fanboy haters like to come into this section and comment how much they hated the series. Sigh, if you dont like the series then dont watch it. Why come in here and wrote such long comments about how much you hate the show. These guys are just attention seekers. When people responded to their hate, they will be happy. Guys, please seek your attention somewhere else and stop affecting people who really liked this anime. Opinions may vary? How about that for an argument? The anime itself isn't a clean slate and has a lot of plot armour going about it so there will be negative comments from normal users as well irrespective of the blind haters. If everyone started to say "OMG! This anime is so good." then the discussion won't reach 7-8 pages per episode. I personally found a lot of the negative comments pretty legit. But that didn't change how much I actually enjoyed the episode overall. And it should not change yours or affect your enjoyment. |
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Angel942 said: Is love that make streltzia is so strong It also magically cleans up all the dirt or damages it takes during the fights. The power of love is too strong in this one. Everything goes pikapika with love. You cannot beat that with logic, reason or science. :) |
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| I appreciated the return of fanservice at the start of this episode, but it didn't quite match the fanservice in episode 2. Those wings look exactly like the ones from Unit-01 in Evangelion. But it's shown me that it's something more already, so it's still an 8. And if it can give me fanservice that was as great as the ass service in episode 2 in any future episode, I'll seriously give it a 10. 10 is for outliers in any aspect. |
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 the face of strelitzia, line blu and red |
| I am shocked by his lips lol . It's a robot or ... ? :p His horn is blue ;) |
Angel942 said: the face of strelitzia, line blu and red So? Is that something we need to consider as special or what? Not gonna lie that your obsession with 002 and 016 is pretty over the top. |
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shanimebib said: 9 Iota is 016. He was the one getting along with the other Children. Also, according to the interview of Tomatsu Haruka, the hero of the anime is actually 002 and 016 is the heroine. Epicenter said: What does that even mean? Hero and heroine literally mean the exact same thing split between male and female. I can't even be a screen time type comment since Hiro has clearly been the focus and who we stay with more. Unless it means personality/role wise together, somehow symbolically, which would kind of make sense but still a weird way to put it. Just say one provides support and the other is more aggressive. You don't have to take it with the actual meaning. Everyone knows the definition of hero and heroine. However, in classical literature Hero is considered as a character who makes things happen and Heroine is the one for whom those things are made to happen. Likening it to the fairy tales of the old, where the Prince rescuing the Princess from her captivity of some evil queen or a dragon. 002 is like Oscar who is considered a Hero character in Versailles no Bara. The emphasis is also given on how 002 refers to herself as Boku, which is masculine term and gets lost in the translations because there is no English equivalent. She is the one who offers 016 the opportunity to get out of this life inside a cage (literally and metaphorically). 016 has been this timid princess like character who is there to be married off and he was ready to accept his fate until his meeting with 002, giving him new hope and belief. The role reversal happens for a bit in this episode but it is not established yet. "002 is still the Prince (Hero) of the story, and 016 is her Princess (Heroine) in classical definition" is what Tomatsu Haruka meant in her interview. The link goes to multiple videos page, so I picked the last one about Star Wars, I quickly jump-watched, All I can say, the movie itself is bad, the video owner is nicely explaining with humor. The movie is a bad attempting of injecting comedy, Avengers style by denying many things that Force Awakens has built. For example, 'an important figure is gone without any important progressing of the story' And your writing about Zero Two and Hiro. Hero and Heroine definitions have many meanings in real world and literature. In this anime series, I know the explanation of Zero Two's and Hiro's own actions, mono/dialogues, struggles... but I will not write, because it will be pointless for now. As you implied that 'bad writing', I will wait until the series is finished, because what the writers can squeeze into 20-minute episodes. Until now, they have used the time very well, not wasting on useless scenes. Zero Two Heroine and Hiro Hero or vice versa; this is business and the project committee along with the developers may be forced to hook the audience quickly and by as much as powerful 'affection' and attachment rate due to their own business and general industry conditions, so you get characters like Zero Two and Hiro, their decisions, their gamble and their game... a 'take it or leave it' dilemma. After all we are not living in Neon Genesis Evangelion's time (90s) where writers, creators can get away with their own interesting traits and preachings, they could insert their delusions into the original work, anime,manga,game... Until now Zero Two is number one focused character, based on what the series has shown me about her until now. I want to know more about her. The second is Hiro and then Goro-Ichigo equally. Goro's character has progressed well, Ichigo's, too. None of these characters are 'normal' human, not even 'they were human at past then they got supernatural abilities', they are different from start. That's why I will hold my verdict back until the very ending. Their 'becoming' heroes' conditions and reasons are different. For Hiro, he is still hero to me; 'die as a failure byproduct or grab any hope whatever and whenever coming his way'. Actually, the other kids in the team are supposed to be heroes, saving domes from klaxosaurs by beating them with cool methods. But the enemy is so powerful, they are about to be killed, but Sterilizia comes in and saves the day. In other words, the hero is only one definition for now; Zero Two+Hiro+Franxx. Another note is that if we still want to linger around this heroism junk, they should show what Zero Two and Hiro alone and together without Franxx in such dire condition; they can be separated, they can be left without tools; will they rise up, will they quickly assess the environmental and personal situations, get the tools, fight back to the light, find each other, unite and become heroes? While they are in their own life and survival struggles, I also want to see how the team can fight and survive against any enemies. As far as I see that only Hiro is actually working on making a team out of other kids, giving a feeling of teammates, comrades, we are all friends, together we can fight...Did Ichigo do something similar? Simply no, the other kids were messy, simple that. That's why Hiro is still a hero. Jesus fucking Christ, delusional 02fags are much worse and much more delirious than delusional slainafags on the AZ threads three years ago.  This is why I definitely hate normalfags arguing about Mecha, because they don't literally understand absolutely nothing about Mecha, and then pretends to know what they’re talking about. ***********************************************  Strelizia outside of its Stampede Mode, follows the same rules as every other FranXX and the Stamen remains the pilot which is in control and Strelizia's choreographies are made by Hiro too. **************************************************************** About the episode: Maiden mode Strelitzia cannot be piloted by 02 alone, since she was struggling even to keep Strelitzia standing after Hiro passed out.  How exactly did 02 survive her encounters whenever she went into Stampede mode? Every time she went berserk, we saw her ass getting kicked (episodes 1 and 6). Did the other Nines have to bail her ass out each time she devoured her Stamen like Hiro did in episodes 1 and 6?  ******************************************************************** How to tame a crazy wild oni   |
Amuro596Feb 22, 2018 4:41 PM
shanimebib said: Angel942 said: the face of strelitzia, line blu and red So? Is that something we need to consider as special or what? Not gonna lie that your obsession with 002 and 016 is pretty over the top. Is not a obsession, I noticed this thing on instagram and I thought it was interesting! |
| Great episode I give it a 10/10 |
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| Well, the action in this episode was pretty cool, but what an underwhelming conclusion to the whole AIDS thing. It just built some fake tension up, only to get brushed off because the power of love saves sthe day in the end. And please don't tell me those last few seconds were hinting on a romantic rival arc to come next... |
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| ... it's a moving warehouse, with horns... Lots of action... but... wish it was a bit more intense. Was alright for a first arc climax I guess. The whole "smashing" thing and that coming back to life with powerup... reminds me of Eva (wonder if that influenced this?) |
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| Great finale episode but we are never gonna get answered what happened are we ? |
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| Yes yes yes! What a good episode!! |
| Loved the full ep battle. The budget will probably take a break cause the beach ep is next. Strelitzia saving the day seems to be a running theme in the show. I hope at some point the rest of the squad will actually hold their own and not just get jobbed out to make Strelitzia look strong. |
Angel942 said: Fappa said: I'm kinda surprised people really don't see why his Klaxosaur infection reversed. In Episode 1 Zero two literally said "Your potential is probably just dormant. I can awaken it for you" And then she asked him to be her darling. The rest is piecing the puzzle pieces together. She puts an emphasis on kiss as something special, kisses him unlike other stamen. This plays into the OP called kiss of death where the lyrics and imagery imply that while it may seem as the kiss of death at first it's actually reviving something. So you have Zero Two explaining her intentions, the condition which is to be her darling and her stamen and the kiss to awaken whatever every one of these children has already in them to begin with. Then they went ahead and made again clear that Hiro experiences the exact opposite reaction compared to all the other stamen before him, his yellow blood cell counts increases rather than decreasing. He's not being drained, he's been given something. All that was left for Hiro to accept Zero Two and the Klaxosaur in her as well as him and his body started to accept it similar to symbiosis it seems rather than trying to fight it. And there you have the awakened potential just how Zero Two said. He has to see her as his other half, his other wing that will enable him to fly rather than a double edged wing that might eventually kill him or snap. The Jian theme wasn't complete until this episode. In Episode 1 Zero two pretty much carried Hiro on her wing. They couldn't work as equals, as one being cause Hiro still was in the mindset that all he wanted to do was to ride a FranXX. The fact that only one wing is functioning at the point is supported by the visual imagery that only Zero Two is conscious and supports Hiro all by herself. In Episode 4 Hiro realized after the failings of Episode 2 & 3 that he can and only wants to pilot a FranXX with her and only her. That's when he learned to rely on these wings of her even if they will hurt him in some way. And now in this episode the Jian motif became complete. Hiro fully embraces Zero Two as a person now rather than his partner with all her dark past, problems and quirks. It was him who supported Zero Two right there for the very first time. Both functioned as equals, two wings that a bird needs to fly. That's why for the first time we see these wings in their finishing move. It's again supported by the imagery of this shot. Both climb out of the FranXX as equals that symbolize a bird that has spread his both wings. Fappa said: I'm kinda surprised people really don't see why his Klaxosaur infection reversed. In Episode 1 Zero two literally said "Your potential is probably just dormant. I can awaken it for you" And then she asked him to be her darling. The rest is piecing the puzzle pieces together. She puts an emphasis on kiss as something special, kisses him unlike other stamen. This plays into the OP called kiss of death where the lyrics and imagery imply that while it may seem as the kiss of death at first it's actually reviving something. So you have Zero Two explaining her intentions, the condition which is to be her darling and her stamen and the kiss to awaken whatever every one of these children has already in them to begin with. Then they went ahead and made again clear that Hiro experiences the exact opposite reaction compared to all the other stamen before him, his yellow blood cell counts increases rather than decreasing. He's not being drained, he's been given something. All that was left for Hiro to accept Zero Two and the Klaxosaur in her as well as him and his body started to accept it similar to symbiosis it seems rather than trying to fight it. And there you have the awakened potential just how Zero Two said. He has to see her as his other half, his other wing that will enable him to fly rather than a double edged wing that might eventually kill him or snap. The Jian theme wasn't complete until this episode. In Episode 1 Zero two pretty much carried Hiro on her wing. They couldn't work as equals, as one being cause Hiro still was in the mindset that all he wanted to do was to ride a FranXX. The fact that only one wing is functioning at the point is supported by the visual imagery that only Zero Two is conscious and supports Hiro all by herself. In Episode 4 Hiro realized after the failings of Episode 2 & 3 that he can and only wants to pilot a FranXX with her and only her. That's when he learned to rely on these wings of her even if they will hurt him in some way. And now in this episode the Jian motif became complete. Hiro fully embraces Zero Two as a person now rather than his partner with all her dark past, problems and quirks. It was him who supported Zero Two right there for the very first time. Both functioned as equals, two wings that a bird needs to fly. That's why for the first time we see these wings in their finishing move. It's again supported by the imagery of this shot. Both climb out of the FranXX as equals that symbolize a bird that has spread his both wings. I'm so happy this is love! For me your interpretation in correct! Compliment!! I ask yuo 1 question, in this scene  02 was furious because she bielieve to kill hiro or she was in stampete mod? |
| Evangelion episode 6 This also happens in this episode of Darling, specifically the part where they ask each other why do they pilots them robots. Oh and then we have this shit Why do they do this? This show has me seriously hyped... |
ConfusionHazeFeb 27, 2018 5:02 PM
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| So like, if the huge Klaxo could just wail on the habitat like that, why were they even worried about it attacking? After a few thrusts it didn't seem to do much more damage. |
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| Curious about the people at the end |
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| Amazing episode! Epic battle, glad that they won. I wonder what happened to Hiro? Because that thing he had, completely disappeared... Can't wait to know what happened to him. And now it makes sense, why 02 never cares about her partner because she suffered so much alone that she doesn't even care about them...not until she found Hiro ;) Btw i wonder who were those people in the end... |
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| Entertaining action scene, nothing more in this episode. 3/5 |
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| Always, in all the series, there are some episodes when not happen nothing, this is one!!! kekeke |
Angel942 said: Arcaedes said: in that scene when hiro is dead, why 02 is furios? For hiro that is dead or because she was in stampede mode?Resolved a lot of stuff at the end there. Goro has been a stand up guy throughout but the others have had their ups and downs, and the end of this one was an up for all of them. Hopefully now Ichigo let some of her emotion show in front of Hiro, there won't be so much crap due to stuff left unsaid in future. Again with Hiro Zero, it was confirming what was said in ep 1, they're the birds with one wing that need each other to fly. But they have to be perfectly linked to do so, and prior to this point it was potential compatibility but not true symbiosis. The fact they're called parasites, and the roles are pistil and stamen also drive home the concept that a perfect pair have to be symbiotic. The "sickness" Hiro was having seemed to suggest that either he had to undergo some physical changes to match up, or that his body and mind (due to it being a mind link) was still trying to unconsciously resist and reject a full link with Zero Two. Once he managed to overcome that it was reversed - admittedly a little too quickly, but for an action/drama mecha anime it's not that much of an ass pull. kiss, connect, become two wings of the same bird. That's been the theme Both, she thought Hiro was gone and that she wasn't going to be able to get out of the situation she was in. At that point her feelings for Hiro are quite superficial, and she doesn't actually know what it's like to really care for someone. Only that she recognises compatibility with him and likes the feeling. So the rage in stampede mode was because when the Klaxosaur took away her darling it left her screwed as unable to beat it on her own. |
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