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| THIS IS A MANGA ONLY DISCUSSION POST. DO NOT DISCUSS ANYTHING BEYOND THIS CHAPTER. ---------------------------------------- "Because my father would've been saddened". What a sincere answer, Sanji. Seems like a buildup chapter though. Capone's plan also sounds pretty risky. |
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| Great chapter. Would love to have Zoro & the others here to battle Big Mom & her crew. Capone such care & love for his wife & crew. YEAH!! Sanji telling Judge off. Zeff is his true dad. RESEPCT!! LOL of course Luffy & Sanji want to fight Big Mom. |
Santoryu_XBurnerJun 29, 2017 1:26 AM
"I’ve set myself to become the King of the Pirates…and if I die trying…then at least I tried!" Monkey D. Luffy (One Piece) |
| Luffy and Sanji coming out at the end was badass! |
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| Dunno why but I enjoyed this chapter so much! Sanjis story got resolved, Namis plan was the intelligent one, but both Sanji and Luffy attacked big mom lol. Let's move on to Wano quickly so that the year of Zoro can begin. This arc is probably one of the best in one piece so far so I can't wait for the much awaited Wano Arc |
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| This looks way too fuckin cool. Hope Oda does something similar The chp was great. I can't think of any other possibility for them to escape. They had to fly. The Vinsmoke going out there to let them escape was cool. But ofc it won't go smoothly xD Luffy and Sanji to the rescue. I still have no idea how they'll escape. Or well maybe Sanji sky walks the hell out of there |
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| Great chapter after last week break. Well now it seems like a fight with Big Mom is inevitable and still i want Reiju to become a straw hats.May be she will ask Luffy to take his responsibility for saving her just like with Robin. |
| This chapter was amazing. Chiffon showing her face to BM after being repeatedly beaten up for looking like Lola. Great plan Chiffon. Great plan xD Nami's speech to Luffy was good. Trying to be reasonable. *Luffy's ready to take on a yonko* *Can't break free of Chopper* LOL Bege's love for his wife, kid and subordinates was great to see. My favorite moment of the chapter was the Sanji and Judge. Would have loved to see him get a kick but the speech he gave was equally good. His reason for saving his family, how he refused to hold on to the hatred of his childhood and how he fucking gave it to Judge to never show his face again was really great to see. I loved that scene ^_^ Caesar tripping never gets old does it? xDD Reiju - "My Little brother is not so cute" Lol. I loved how Luffy and Sanji came in to save her. That was a really cool scene :D And them arguing over coming out was funny haha. Wish to see a but more of this fight. I wonder how their escape will go tho. Really excited for next week :D |
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| Absolutely fantastic chapter! Oda with the 10/10 Chapters every week. "My father would have been saddened" got me so hyped. When I saw Luffy and Sanji at the end come out and attack and then start arguing, it put a smile on my face. That's so like the Straw Hat's. Sanji's back with us! Can't wait for next week! |
| Luffy and Sanji classed with Big Mom to protect Reiju. Sanji forced his father to announce that he won't bug him ever again or call him family. Also, I am glad to see that Bege truly cares for his family and this marriage wasn't only for personal benefits. Ceasar has once again one of the most dangerous roles lmao |
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| Things are in full swing now in this conflict with Big Mom, with the Germa taking her on. Of course, this wouldn't be One Piece if Luffy didn't join the fight, despite being repeatedly told not to. He and Sanji intercepting her attack at the end was pretty cool. |
thebrentinator24Jun 30, 2017 5:29 PM
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| No way! I thought they'd finally found a way to escape through the germa 66 sacrificing themselves but... Luffy actually jumped out! :D Incredible chapter. Can't wait for next week! |
| Wow, Sanji showed us again why he's the kindest person of the straw hats. I already liked him before, but after this arc he could end up as my favorite member behind Luffy. The Vinsmokes are also making a good impression so far, especially Ichiji, seems like I understimated them. The panel with Luffy and Sanji looked awesome, overall pretty good chapter. |
One Piece episode 914 & 915 & 1027 were a mistake and 957 brought the salvation - FMmatron |
| Whew, loved this chapter. I can't wait to see Luffy, Sanji and the rest going ham against Big Mom. |
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 can we take a moment to appreciate this so big mom arc probably ending in like 8 weeks max? nice |
| It's good that Slop leveling won the CR awards with such a power gap, Gaijin Weebs don't deserve good anime. Not after what they did to frieren, kusuriya, and many others |
| hype out of my mind for the next chapter |
| Sanji finally getting it straight with judge and the germa will cover for them while they escape with ceasar. Luffy and sanji now out to save reiju. |
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DEVILKILLER1234 said: Btw,it isn't oda who hyped vinsmoke up,it was the fans We all know that vinsmokes are nothing without their raid suits Now don´t start backpedaling. It was Oda who drew this Panel, not the fans It was also Oda who drew this Panel. Picture one isn´t redeeming the bitchface from picture two. The end! I was always sceptical of the Vinsmokes since they were Lanji´s family, came out of nowhere and had no former introction until this arc. Furthermore, they are such scrubs that they can´t conquer a single one of the blue seas on their own.. If Shanks would invade the North Blue he´d take that shit in a week, according to hype. The Vinsmokes are scubs! Oda can make them pose all he wants. Their feats are negative too average at best. |
| I have to say, I was kinda hoping/expecting them to actually leave the Vinsmokes behind.. but damn I couldn't help but smile when I saw that "Gomu Gomu no... / Diable Jambe...!" line. If nothing else that means that Reiju will probably make it through this. It really is against Luffy, and Sanji's, natures to just let someone die so that they can live. Also, it doesn't really redeem Judge, but it was pretty touching, and badass, that he just stood up and walked towards his death like that. On another note, seems like Niji at least has some sense of compassion for Reiju. Yeah I was thinking that was a really creative fan-art as well. I could honestly see something like that happening, and it would be badass. Even the way Kid was fighting seemed right up his alley. And all the samurai up top and the way they were dressed in edo style clothing... I kinda hope it does happen, seems to match Oda's creative style. |
JokerVentura said: Awesome Chapter, Luffy and Sanji ready to fight, but I do have a question. Sanji jumps out with Luffy, uses Diamble Jamble, does that mean he technically kicked Big Mom. Has he and will he continue to break his life code to never to kick a woman? He didn't actually kick Big Mom. He only blocked her attack. He blocked Kalifa's attack as well. |
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| Great chapter. Sanji asking Judge to disown him and cut all ties right to his face was really cool. Flying is the only way to get out of there, I hope they make it. I doubt things would go that well though. Germa prepare to fight and the final panel with Sanji and Luffy entering the fight was awesome. I'd be more surprised if they hadn't come out. xD As much as Sanji says he doesn't want any connection to the Vinsmokes, it does feel like he does have some amount of compassion towards them. |
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| I'm still not satisfied Sanji is letting the Germa go scott-free after all the crimes they've done. |
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| Another great chapter. The beginning of the chapter seemed a bit slow though. We shouldn't forget that the tamatebako(the chest with the bomb) is still there, and it it might explode soon. Except if Oda plans that Big Mom's going to open it after this arc, when she's trying to calm down for all that happened, and it explodes into her face as some sort of gag. We'll see if it has a role. About 3, max 5 chapters left, according to the interview in december, so I'm curious how things will go. I loved the part where Sanji told the Judge to f off, and that he doesn't consider him as his dad. I guess the chef is his real daddy now. Like "Mary Poppins" I guess. |
tkrisz2 said: Well, that doesn't exactly hold true since Du Feld dropped it off the side of the mountain. If 3-5 chapters is actually accurate, then all I can see is maybe it blows up at the foot of the mountain and causes chaos as the mountain collapses. Doesn't really feel likely, but I'm not sure where he's going with that fact. I feel like the majority of fans (especially those that don't discuss it on forums) probably don't even remember that though... so using that as such a huge game-changer would probably be too out of the blue... but we'll see. Not like he couldn't throw a 1-2 panel reminder in there.We shouldn't forget that the tamatebako(the chest with the bomb) is still there, and it it might explode soon. Except if Oda plans that Big Mom's going to open it after this arc, when she's trying to calm down for all that happened, and it explodes into her face as some sort of gag. We'll see if it has a role. About 3, max 5 chapters left, according to the interview in december, so I'm curious how things will go. tkrisz2 said: I think it's been that way since his introduction in chapter 43.I loved the part where Sanji told the Judge to f off, and that he doesn't consider him as his dad. I guess the chef is his real daddy now. Like "Mary Poppins" I guess. Isterio said: I actually understand where you're coming from here. They're definitely useless without their gear... but calling them scrubs for not being able to take over a sea doesn't seem fair. Admitting that they would do better by allying with someone considered one of the top 4 most powerful and influential villains in the world is hardly a weakness. It would be like (were it not for time) Kim Jong-un allying with Hitler because Hitler has much more resources and a wider influence.Now don´t start backpedaling. It was Oda who drew this Panel, not the fans It was also Oda who drew this Panel. Picture one isn´t redeeming the bitchface from picture two. The end! I was always sceptical of the Vinsmokes since they were Lanji´s family, came out of nowhere and had no former introction until this arc. Furthermore, they are such scrubs that they can´t conquer a single one of the blue seas on their own.. If Shanks would invade the North Blue he´d take that shit in a week, according to hype. The Vinsmokes are scubs! Oda can make them pose all he wants. Their feats are negative too average at best. Also if that makes them scrubs, then the World Government/Marines are also scrubs for not simply taking out the 4 Yonkou, and ending Dragon's rain of rebellion. Also for the record, I'm pretty sure Shanks couldn't take over one of the 4 seas if he wanted to. Whitebeard, known as the strongest in the world, couldn't even beat back the Marines an inch at their headquarters, how would he take a quarter of their control from them in less than a week? Nonetheless I get that you're just saying they're reputed much more highly than they deserve, even by the other characters. I'm honestly surprised people don't already know that by now... I thought that was proven the moment Sanji beat Yonji and almost Judge, like it was nothing, until Judge sacrificed his own men. Though at least for me, I never realized how much their tech improves their abilities til last chapter... so there's not telling how strong they really are when fully geared up. ColdJester said: I don't think the Straw Hats really concern themselves with what people have done in the past. Obviously it's different when it's blood, but Sanji already said he wants to be released from his ties with them. But still, Sanji said that for him it's more about what Luffy and Zeff expect of him.. and it can certainly be said that Luffy will forgive just about anything as long as it's not who they are at present.I'm still not satisfied Sanji is letting the Germa go scott-free after all the crimes they've done. |
| Huh, how are they supposed to get away now? I doubt they'll be beating the Big Mom crew like that. |
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| so that's how they come to terms, huh? I pretty much hoped Germa 66 become Straw Hat ally for the time being, making Luffy fleet even stronger. Luffy and Sanji at the end is pretty much predicted, there's no way they want to be indebt too, since they're also a blockhead lol |
ColdJester said: I'm still not satisfied Sanji is letting the Germa go scott-free after all the crimes they've done. crimes? their criminal record is basically clean if you think about it even a bit you'll understand they committed absolutely no crime |
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| I like the way Oda is approaching characters. We're seeing less black and white, good and evil characteristics, leaning more towards gray personalities. I like that, makes the characters more realistic. Not saying that they should be, as the whole One Piece world is storm of craziness, but it's a good thing imo. JudgeRuthless said: ColdJester said: I'm still not satisfied Sanji is letting the Gzree after all the crimes they've done. crimes? their criminal record is basically clean if you think about it even a bit you'll understand they committed absolutely no crime Well, you might consider child abuse and kidnapping, I guess. |
JudgeRuthless said: I dunno if I'd go that far... according to Sanji, Reiju, and their reputation... they've murdered many people possibly in the hundreds. Clones or not, they sacrificed their followers on multiple occasions on-screen. crimes? their criminal record is basically clean if you think about it even a bit you'll understand they committed absolutely no crime And of course, like pardored mentioned the abuse he dealt Sanji is a crime in itself. Also I'm not positive but I'm pretty sure their cloning breaks some sort of laws. The fact that they're known as a criminal organization already speaks for itself though. Nonetheless, I doubt anything they did beyond what they did to Sanji is anything the Straw Hats would seek to deliver punishment for. Reiju already told Sanji not to rescue them because she's committed just as many atrocities... and since Sanji pushed that aside already, I don't think he seeks to punish them. |
tkrisz2 said: Another great chapter. The beginning of the chapter seemed a bit slow though. We shouldn't forget that the tamatebako(the chest with the bomb) is still there, and it it might explode soon. Except if Oda plans that Big Mom's going to open it after this arc, when she's trying to calm down for all that happened, and it explodes into her face as some sort of gag. We'll see if it has a role. About 3, max 5 chapters left, according to the interview in december, so I'm curious how things will go. I loved the part where Sanji told the Judge to f off, and that he doesn't consider him as his dad. I guess the chef is his real daddy now. Like "Mary Poppins" I guess. tkrisz2 said: Another great chapter. The beginning of the chapter seemed a bit slow though. We shouldn't forget that the tamatebako(the chest with the bomb) is still there, and it it might explode soon. Except if Oda plans that Big Mom's going to open it after this arc, when she's trying to calm down for all that happened, and it explodes into her face as some sort of gag. We'll see if it has a role. About 3, max 5 chapters left, according to the interview in december, so I'm curious how things will go. I loved the part where Sanji told the Judge to f off, and that he doesn't consider him as his dad. I guess the chef is his real daddy now. Like "Mary Poppins" I guess. What is that Bomb???? |
On the fishman island there was a chest in the royal palace filled with the steroids, which was rigged with bombs so anyone who opens it, gets killed. It was stolen, Luffy got it back, and they gave it to Pekoms to give it to Big Mom. They didn't know about the bomb though. Now it's there on the wedding and we already saw it, but fell off the island I think. I hope it will have some sort of role. |
tkrisz2 said: On the fishman island there was a chest in the royal palace filled with the steroids, which was rigged with bombs so anyone who opens it, gets killed. It was stolen, Luffy got it back, and they gave it to Pekoms to give it to Big Mom. They didn't know about the bomb though. Now it's there on the wedding and we already saw it, but fell off the island I think. I hope it will have some sort of role. Looool sounds like a big spoiler for me I didn't remember that at all I was eagerly waiting to see what was inside and I thought something related to ponygleph was there looooooooooooool |
| I hope they don't beat Big Mom with raw strenth or some asspull. A lot of those stupid One Piece theory Youtubers already made videos about Luffy using Gear 5th on BM... |
| well that was something..judge still kept his pride it seems |
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| well, 2 stupid people, lOl |
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pardored said: JudgeRuthless said: crimes? their criminal record is basically clean if you think about it even a bit you'll understand they committed absolutely no crime Well, you might consider child abuse and kidnapping, I guess. Under whose legislation? I am baffled. How can you even for a second think that the germa will indict themselves. HalibelTheEspada said: I dunno if I'd go that far... according to Sanji, Reiju, and their reputation... they've murdered many people possibly in the hundreds. Clones or not, they sacrificed their followers on multiple occasions on-screen. So what if they've murdered hundreds of people? Why not look up in the real world history of Earth what the top ten blood thirsty rulers were and think about it a bit. None of them is considered a criminal. attrocities and crimes aren't considered the same thing in the modern world of today |
JudgeRuthlessJul 6, 2017 8:28 AM
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JudgeRuthless said: Lmao, wait what? I just saw this post... this is the most ridiculous claim I've ever heard in my life. Have you never heard of "war crimes"? Hitler was going to be executed before he killed himself. He realized he was going to be executed because his ally in Italy, Benito Mussolini was recently executed. Nicolae Ceausescu was executed along with his wife for initiating lethal attacks against protestors. They were all considered criminals for atrocities they had committed. I don't know what bullshit lies your head has been filled with but this is just pathetic.So what if they've murdered hundreds of people? Why not look up in the real world history of Earth what the top ten blood thirsty rulers were and think about it a bit. None of them is considered a criminal. attrocities and crimes aren't considered the same thing in the modern world of today Yes there have been many leaders who lead wars that cause many deaths, but generally they are treated as heros because they did revolutionary things. If Trump decided to try to take over the world today and attack other countries with no other reason than personal gain / control of territory he would be considered a criminal and quickly executed. Unless he was able to forge a bullshit story, then he would be immediately considered a criminal. And even in that case if the truth ever came out, every monument and tribute to him would be burned and destroyed and assuming he's still alive, he'd be executed. Killing unjustly, without following the laws is, and always will be, considered a crime. I really just don't know what you're trying to say here... Germa 66, since their introduction, has been hailed as a super criminal organization. They themselves have acknowledged it, others acknowledged it. Your initial argument was that Sanji shouldn't hate them, because they have committed no crimes. Now you're arguing that they wouldn't admit to them in a trial, essentially. Doesn't matter what anyone could prove... Sanji still knows the truth of how they are... he has plenty of reasons to hate them beyond what they did to him. |
| Only losers are accused of war crimes. See the US succesfully doing wars for the past two decades without having to deal with any of the nonsense you talk about. |
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