| why are, for example, Ghost Stories and Danganronpa 3 wayy better in dub version ? |
| Hahahaha. No. Better? No. Less unbearable, yes. If you're gonna say that's the same, I'll just go ahead and say that "So bad it's good" exists. |
| I mean ghost stories dub is a joke. and danganronpa probably feels better because you're used to the English cast (although admitedly I don't like naegi's voice actor, but I do prefer the japanese voice actors for the girls) |
Sherlupin said: why are, for example, Ghost Stories and Danganronpa 3 wayy better in dub version ? I don't know about those two, but i really liked the dubbed version Cowboy Bebob and Psycho-pass, more than the japanese dub |
| Chost stories is just an abridged series though. As for the reason.... there really is no reason |
| Panty and Stocking undeniably. Since it's a profanity heavy show the dub works pretty well to that degree. Gurren Lagann, Steins;Gate and Attack on Titan, to some degree as well, had dubs that ain't that bad. Mind you, looking back now, I'd never rewatch those series in dub again. |
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| I don't think I've ever heard a dub that was better than the Japanese cast. I don't even think highly acclaimed dubs like cowboy bebop and baccano are all that great. |
demonskul777 said: I mean ghost stories dub is a joke. and danganronpa probably feels better because you're used to the English cast nope, it's just that I find it to be utter genius the voice actors are doing a fine job https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rO_Vk6vrXRw https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MwhgHz3Fm3o |
demonskul777 said: I mean ghost stories dub is a joke HOW CAN YOU CALL THE BEST ANIME OF ALL TIME "A JOKE??????!" but actually though. Depends on the cast and how they change the wording from Japanese to English, I think. |
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| This has to be the joke of the year, dub is never better than the subbed version. The English voice actors can't be compared to any seiyuu, they have no feeling when they work. |
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| I guess it's a matter of personal preference? Sometimes I really enjoy dubs, especially if they add a little humour that wasn't in the original version...the 90s dubs were good for this. I'd never watch Pokemon in anything but dub, anyway. Quality of voice acting is a thing in any language, but I guess it's more noticeable in your native language. |
Wobblyguy said: I don't think I've ever heard a dub that was better than the Japanese cast. Panty & Stocking is like...objectively better dubbed. |
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| I don't know why you can watch dub. for me, dub is very cringe and awkward to hear. |
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Ulquiorra said: This has to be the joke of the year, dub is never better than the subbed version. The English voice actors can't be compared to any seiyuu, they have no feeling when they work. the original Ghost Stories anime flopped hard in Japan whereas, it's one of the most popular anime of all time in the West therefore, dub > sub |
| It depends differently from person to person, what I think is good english dub is probably bad for you :3 |
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Wobblyguy said: Agreed. For example I recently watched a review of Suzumiya Haruhi no Shoushitsu where the author was essentially worshipping Crispin Freeman. He shows a clip of the scene where Kyon is having the argument with himself and as I'm watching/listening to it I'm thinking "how is Crispin even half as good as Tomokazu Sugita in the same scene?" Sorry, color me unconvinced.I don't think I've ever heard a dub that was better than the Japanese cast. I don't even think highly acclaimed dubs like cowboy bebop and baccano are all that great. Same when I watched Ergo Proxy. I figured since it was a non-Japanese setting that I'd give the dub a try but after 2 episodes the va's voice for Vincent was annoying the hell out of me: afterwards it was sub the rest of the way. I can't fathom why anyone would listen to some English nobody rather than award-winning va's like Rie Kugimiya as Taiga (or any of the award winning seiyu in a role they won an award for). I'm sure a few of the English-speaking cast do a good job and dub fans have their favorites (apparently Freeman is one of them) but even the best of the best English voice actors just don't do it for me. Long before MAL when I bought my first few anime I watched them dubbed (not knowing any better). However, even though I've already re-watched Rurouni Kenshin: Tsuioku-hen many times over the years and consider the dub pretty good the next re-watch will be subbed. |
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Sherlupin said: demonskul777 said: I mean ghost stories dub is a joke. and danganronpa probably feels better because you're used to the English cast nope, it's just that I find it to be utter genius the voice actors are doing a fine job https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rO_Vk6vrXRw https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MwhgHz3Fm3o So we are arguing about opinions again huh.Then let me say this. I think Shitcom has really good dubs. |
| OMG danganronpa? Are you nuts? Danganronpa has the best seiyuus lined up one after other. |
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| I think you meant to ask why some people like some dubs more than their original versions. And I'm sure there are plenty of reasons, starting with basic stuff like disliking subtitles and preferring your own language up to liking or disliking certain voice actors in certain roles or preferring a language that fits the setting better. Or in the case of Ghost Stories comparing two more or less different shows with each other. Of course there will be people who prefer one over the other. Just like when you compare Steins:Gate and FMA: Brotherhood. That's about how much the Ghost Stories dub has to do with the original anime. Might as well be a different show. |
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Sherlupin said: Ulquiorra said: This has to be the joke of the year, dub is never better than the subbed version. The English voice actors can't be compared to any seiyuu, they have no feeling when they work. the original Ghost Stories anime flopped hard in Japan whereas, it's one of the most popular anime of all time in the West therefore, dub > sub The fact that an anime was liked more in the west doesn't mean it was because of the "good" dubs. The only reason that I can think about is that it was aired on TV in the west and that's how people make the silly mistake thinking that the dubs are good and they can't stand the Japanese voice, once you get used to them you will never go back to dubs. |
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Bobby2Hands said: Sorry, I don't agree. I felt they went way overboard with the swearing and the acting is better for the Japanese version. The occasional english swearwords in the sub felt way more effective and funny.Wobblyguy said: I don't think I've ever heard a dub that was better than the Japanese cast. Panty & Stocking is like...objectively better dubbed. |
| Dub will never be better than sub full stop. There are some dubs that are better than other dubs but all of them are inferior to the subbed. |
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Wobblyguy said: I don't think I've ever heard a dub that was better than the Japanese cast. I don't even think highly acclaimed dubs like cowboy bebop and baccano are all that great. Aye, baccano's English dub is horrible compared (though only seen parts of the dub in YouTube, so may have only watched the bad bits?) to it's Japanese dub as for other anime I've watched the first 400 One Piece episodes in dub and like the sub better, watched ansatsu kyoushitsu's 1st season in dub and the 2nd in sub I didn't mind it in dub, watched 300 bleach episodes in dub haven't watched in dub yet, seemed good, watched SAO in dub seemed fine as well haven't watched in sub yet, baka and test probably would've been better in sub, haven't watched in sub yet, watched fma in dub was alright haven't watched it in sub, it's better than fmab sub though, only watched up to episode 5 in dub been on hold for ages so I restarted it in sub still haven't finished it yet, plan to watch again soon, these as from when I first started watching anime but now I only watch in sub so I don't know about any other dubbed anime |
YuriEmpireNov 6, 2016 6:06 AM
| You come out saying Danganronpa...bruh at least say something like Wolf's Rain. The Danganronpa games have awful dubs and the anime one isn't much better. |
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| This is just simply about preference. Japanese anime will of course be good in their own Japanese sub, because they take into account my things when deciding. Some members like subs and some likes dub more, preference. As you can see the above members comment, different kind of answer which is against what you said. Plus even if the dub is better just like you said in some animes, that will only be just minority of members like 1% to 10% think that. So it doesn't really represent the whole majority. Preference my boy preference. |
valvravetruthNov 6, 2016 6:09 AM
| The english dangan ronpa voices sound so bad and generic |
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| Most people who post regularly on this forum are a bunch of kids who only watch subs, so finding dub fans in these threads is going to be hard. I watch both, so I'm kinda 50/50. It really depends on what language you first watched the show in. I can't imagine watching "Akira" with the original Japanese dialogue, because I grew up with the original English dub with Cam Clarke as Kaneda. But at the same time, I can't imagine watching "Futari wa Precure" with English dialogue, because while the English dub didn't edit any episodes out, and did an okay job, I saw it subbed first, so that's one of the cases where I'd prefer it in Japanese. As far as I'm concerned, nobody should just watch subbed or dubbed only. A little of both is far more interesting. |
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demonskul777 said: I mean ghost stories dub is a joke. If you mean "joke" because ADV Films was given free reign to change 90% of the original script, and the royalties the Japanese made from Dub sales in the West was more than their own BD/DVD sales, then yeah, it's a joke. Bourmegar said: Ghost stories is just an abridged series though. It's not abridged, they didn't shorten anything, they just changed most of the script. 8oomer said: I can't fathom why anyone would listen to some English nobody rather than award-winning va's like Rie Kugimiya as Taiga (or any of the award winning seiyu in a role they won an award for). #1 Who gave them that award.. the Japanese. Given by the Japanese, to a Japanese, for doing something in Japanese. That award means diddly here in the West. #2 Plenty of Western VAs win awards too, so why aren't you praising them over the Japanese VA that didn't get an award for that same role? 8oomer said: I'm sure a few of the English-speaking cast do a good job and dub fans have their favorites (apparently Freeman is one of them) but even the best of the best English voice actors just don't do it for me. That's you... and that's fine, but your preference isn't necessarily everyone else's preference. Sherlupin said: why are, for example, Ghost Stories and Danganronpa 3 wayy better in dub version ? It's not so much that dubbing is better, it is just more preferred by some people. The most common reason seems to be not having to watch the bottom of the screen for subtitles so they can enjoy/not miss the visuals. |
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| I almost never watch dubbed anime, I just like hearing Japanese voices while watching it xD I really liked watching Sen to Chihiro no Kamikakushi dubbed into my first language though. I was still a child when I saw it for the first time. Few years later I did a rewatch, in Japanese this time, and didn't like it that much. The original version is ok, but I do like dubbed version more. |
Older_than_dirt said: demonskul777 said: I mean ghost stories dub is a joke. If you mean "joke" because ADV Films was given free reign to change 90% of the original script, and the royalties the Japanese made from Dub sales in the West was more than their own BD/DVD sales, then yeah, it's a joke. Yes, that's what I mean, because you can't tell me they were very serious about the script changes. |
| Either the anime takes place somewhere where a good dub would improve the quality or the animation is so drop dead gorgeous that it would be a crime to watch it with subs. Those are the main reasons imo, other than joke dubs like OP pointed out with Ghost Stories |
| Its the same for me, some anime like 91 days are way better as a dub. I mean come on, Italians in America, speaking Japanese, it just doesn't make sense. Anime that have a basis around Japan and/or Japanese culture should be watched in sub, dub would be weird in that case. Thats just my opinion, but some people like Japanese voice acting better all in all compared to english voice acting and thats fine, since Japanese tends to be a language rich with different tones which a lot of people (my self included) find appealing. But personally due to simplicity i prefer watching dubs if it fits the anime . |
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oryouohagi said: OMG danganronpa? Are you nuts? Danganronpa has the best seiyuus lined up one after other. maybe but the dub has even better english seiyuu |
| Some shows work better as a dub especially more western influenced ones. Ex. Baccano and Space Dandy. Also for most people, the version they watched first ends up the one they prefer. |
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tehcanemc2 said: I've always thought this line of thinking is really dumb because it is never consistently applied. What about non english speaking countries? What about fantasy lands? What about talking animals? I think the best way to go about this is to just ignore the language and assume they're are speaking the language of their origin. Different languages should only come into play if you're trying to illustrate that two characters can't converse with each other.Its the same for me, some anime like 91 days are way better as a dub. I mean come on, Italians in America, speaking Japanese, it just doesn't make sense. Anime that have a basis around Japan and/or Japanese culture should be watched in sub, dub would be weird in that case. Thats just my opinion, but some people like Japanese voice acting better all in all compared to english voice acting and thats fine, since Japanese tends to be a language rich with different tones which a lot of people (my self included) find appealing. But personally due to simplicity i prefer watching dubs if it fits the anime . For example in sora no woto everybody speaks Japanese, even though the language they're actually speaking is French, as can be seen from the writing. When a character later comes in that speaks German and isn't understood by anyone, they show that by letting her speak actual German. |
| Panty & Stocking works much better, but that is literally it. I will not agree that Danganronpa is better dubbed, the dub in the games was atrocious and from what I can tell with a few fragments, neither the animated DP1, nor 3, have changed that. |
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| lmao OP. Subs > dubs. English cast can't match qualty that is JP seiyuu. |
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Specimen021 said: I will not agree that Danganronpa is better dubbed. have you even watched the clips I posted https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rO_Vk6vrXRw https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MwhgHz3Fm3o |
Sherlupin said: Specimen021 said: I will not agree that Danganronpa is better dubbed. have you even watched the clips I posted https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rO_Vk6vrXRw https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MwhgHz3Fm3o Now, I have. The delivery of the lines is mostly stiff as fuck, Enoshima's voice physically hurts and the others' aren't much better. The changes in lines, as well as the voice recording quality and mixing seem like an abridged version, a really bad one at that. So, your point? |
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