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Sep 11, 2016 1:22 PM
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Immahnoob said:
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Ok guys, shall I wait for the BDs or just marathon the TV version?
Just marathon it. I doubt much will change in the BD.
I guess my hopes of animation fixes in the BDs are nothing more than wishful thinking.
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SenpaiJay98 said:
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If they don't have enough money to pay the art department, then they've to cut back on expenses. This leads to less detailed pictures and sloppy transitions between scenes because less scenes and less detailed scenes mean less costs. While the time also plays a role, it could also be the infamous budget allocation mistake.
Time Constraints*............................................................

Do you have proof for your statement? Like I've said, the quality of the animation is closely tied to budget.
INB4 the retards that think TV animation is about Budget...

It's not completely about budget, but budget plays a key role in the final result.

The number of frames that a key animator draws for a movement will depend upon the intentions of the key animator and the nature of the cut, with time, and budget constraints considered.


If you want to really show how "retarded" I am, give me proof. I know that WhiteFox usually has a big budget, but even they can run out of it.
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Immahnoob said:
worldeditor11 said:
Ok guys, shall I wait for the BDs or just marathon the TV version?
Just marathon it. I doubt much will change in the BD.


Unless you want to see more gore. I think the first BD volume featured scenes that were more graphic than the TV version



Also, friendly reminder that calling animation terrible is not a fact
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What's the shape of DNA molecule



Double Felix


Lol. That's too much sausages
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worldeditor11 said:
Immahnoob said:
Just marathon it. I doubt much will change in the BD.
I guess my hopes of animation fixes in the BDs are nothing more than wishful thinking.


He might've referred more (if not entirely) about the gore being more explicitly shown there (uncensored).

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What's the shape of DNA molecule



Double Felix


Lol. That's too much sausages


There's enough h- no... No, no.
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Benphyre said:
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What's the shape of DNA molecule



Double Felix


Lol. That's too much sausages
I actually do not mind if its Felis...

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Sometimes791 said:
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Time*..............................................


If they don't have enough money to pay the art department, then they've to cut back on expenses. This leads to less detailed pictures and sloppy transitions between scenes because less scenes and less detailed scenes mean less costs. While the time also plays a role, it could also be the infamous budget allocation mistake.

Animators/painters/BG painters/photographers are paid by animation cut (range of action for a scene). Time plays a bigger role here.
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This episode was good
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Could someone spoil me on the missing Satella scene? Obviously, use the spoilers tag.

I can't get enough of Betelgeuse. He's definitely the ultimate waifu out there, I don't care what others say.

Sep 11, 2016 1:41 PM

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Z4k said:
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If they don't have enough money to pay the art department, then they've to cut back on expenses. This leads to less detailed pictures and sloppy transitions between scenes because less scenes and less detailed scenes mean less costs. While the time also plays a role, it could also be the infamous budget allocation mistake.

Animators/painters/BG painters/photographers are paid by animation cut (range of action for a scene). Time plays a bigger role here.

It may play a major role as well, but he basically claimed that budget has nothing to with animation (with different words) and called people who brought that up "retards":
INB4 the retards that think TV animation is about Budget...

I initially just wondered whether it has something to do with budget allocation as well and if they're able to pull off a satisfying animation quality for episode 25.
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Sep 11, 2016 1:43 PM

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TsundereHeart said:
subaru has gotten a lot more efficient with his deaths...like the way this is going he only needed one death to pass this obstacle instead of like 4~5
It's not a given that he won't die.
LauraBirdie said:
Immahnoob said:
Just marathon it. I doubt much will change in the BD.


Unless you want to see more gore. I think the first BD volume featured scenes that were more graphic than the TV version



Also, friendly reminder that calling animation terrible is not a fact
I didn't know this, they seem to have censored the scenes in such a way that it's not noticeable that shit is missing.

I think I'll marathon the BD if we ever get a S2.
worldeditor11 said:
Immahnoob said:
Just marathon it. I doubt much will change in the BD.
I guess my hopes of animation fixes in the BDs are nothing more than wishful thinking.
I actually meant it more like "There's little to fix so the BD is just for the video quality.".




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This episode was good


Hmm, maybe that good become a new meme
Sep 11, 2016 1:46 PM
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Immahnoob said:

I actually meant it more like "There's little to fix so the BD is just for the video quality.".


Yeah, I know.

LauraBirdie said:
Immahnoob said:
Just marathon it. I doubt much will change in the BD.


Unless you want to see more gore. I think the first BD volume featured scenes that were more graphic than the TV version



Also, friendly reminder that calling animation terrible is not a fact


That's the main reason why I am asking; whether there is anything more worthwhile to wait for the BDs other than the extra sprinkle of gore and the obvious better video source.
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Sometimes791 said:
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Animators/painters/BG painters/photographers are paid by animation cut (range of action for a scene). Time plays a bigger role here.

It may play a major role as well, but he basically claimed that budget has nothing to with animation (with different words) and called people who brought that up "retards":
INB4 the retards that think TV animation is about Budget...

I initially just wondered whether it has something to do with budget allocation as well and if they're able to pull off a satisfying animation quality for episode 25.


Just for your signature here... 14 days? If you're talking about what I think you are, shouldn't it be 7 days, for ep 25?
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While I agree that the animation quality in this episode took a bit of a dive (They're probably going to focus most of their time on the final episode), I didn't think it was THAT terrible. I didn't even notice it until the second half of the episode.

I mean, Orange's episode 9-10's animation quality was way worse than this. You people are exaggerating and it's pathetic.

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AmejiHunter said:
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It may play a major role as well, but he basically claimed that budget has nothing to with animation (with different words) and called people who brought that up "retards":

I initially just wondered whether it has something to do with budget allocation as well and if they're able to pull off a satisfying animation quality for episode 25.


Just for your signature here... 14 days? If you're talking about what I think you are, shouldn't it be 7 days, for ep 25?

Do you think that I'm so diligent? I'm truly slothful!
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Sometimes791 said:
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Just for your signature here... 14 days? If you're talking about what I think you are, shouldn't it be 7 days, for ep 25?

Do you think that I'm so diligent? I'm truly slothful!


Will your brain tremble?
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This was a hugely satisfying episode. Finally things are coming together for Subaru!

Man, after all this time we're nearing the end. This has been one giant emotional roller coaster. I'll be both happy and sad when it ends.
Sep 11, 2016 1:55 PM
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This was a hugely satisfying episode. Finally things are coming together for Subaru!

Man, after all this time we're nearing the end. This has been one giant emotional roller coaster. I'll be both happy and sad when it ends.


Mainly sad, don't worry. I got spoiled. You're gonna shit in yo' pants :)
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waiting for the fifth one

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AmejiHunter said:
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Do you think that I'm so diligent? I'm truly slothful!


Will your brain tremble?




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waiting for the fifth one

Re:Zero has a "flying people" fetish.
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Sep 11, 2016 1:57 PM
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I thought it was good, more on episode 22s level. But good. I had more of an issue with the pacing than the animation, not like there was much fighting this episode anyway.

Also, white fox has done an amazing job on this series, so im not gonna let 2 medium quality episodes ruin the experience, they're kicking ass still IMO. And I never got the complaints with he whale episodes, I thought those were awesome from a production standpoint for the most part.

Anyway, I'll give this a 4/5.
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Sometimes791 said:
AmejiHunter said:


Will your brain tremble?




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[...]

waiting for the fifth one

Re:Zero has a "flying people" fetish.


I'm gonna trust you to update the number of days. I swear to god it would be hilarious to drop a huge ball of shit on this MAL forum, idk really how, but... you know.
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AmejiHunter said:
I'm gonna trust you to update the number of days. I swear to god it would be hilarious to drop a huge ball of shit on this MAL forum, idk really how, but... you know.



My brain trembles in excitement!
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Sep 11, 2016 2:03 PM
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Why did Subaru not tell Emilia about all his achievements? I just want Emilia to acknowledge him.
Sep 11, 2016 2:05 PM

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GET READY BOYS BECAUSE NEXT EPISODE, AFTER WHAT'S ABOUT TO HAPPEN, MAL IS LEGIT GONNA TURN INTO A SALT FEST. ANIME ONLYS WILL BE TRIGGERED

YOU ALL ARE ALREADY COMPLAINING ABOUT THE ANIMATION (Which isnt even noticeable or bad in any sense except Julius mouth disappearing. The quality did drop but you guys act like it become the end of evangelion or something) AND THE WHALE FOG ABILITY (got explained) AND SUBARU AND SUBARU AND OH YEAH, SUBARU AGAINx3 AND EVERYTHING ELSE IN THIS SHOW THAT GOT EXPLAINED.

I cant wait for next sunday. These forums will truly become a shitshow

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So those theories about Pride and Emilia being vessel proved true. Well, it was expected.

But if anything, in this episode I realize I really don't care about Emilia anymore. she was offscreen way too long and there are tons of better characters than her in this series.

So as a send off for this series to its sequel she can as well become a witch reborn in the last episode.
Sep 11, 2016 2:06 PM

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SenpaiJay98 said:
INB4 the retards that think TV animation is about Budget...

Not really. It could also be:

more budget=more hired staff=more work in same time

OR

more budget=talented staff=better result in same time
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Fuck. FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK!!!!!
They skipped the
scene!? They probably won't the show the

The next episode is 25 minutes, and they'll have to skip who knows how many things to fit the content in. White fox needs to add an extra 20 minutes; they cannot pull off a good ending without it.
nope nope the first one should probably be shown next episode
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Sometimes791 said:
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I'm gonna trust you to update the number of days. I swear to god it would be hilarious to drop a huge ball of shit on this MAL forum, idk really how, but... you know.



My brain trembles in excitement!


I haven't read LN but I got spoiled on... what's gonna happen.. I'm pretty excited to see that.

I put my absolute, irrevocable, genuine, unconditional, humble, complete, sacred trust in you! You are truly slothful!

tbh tho, Betelgeuse is seriously my favorite character in a long time.
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AmejiHunter said:
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My brain trembles in excitement!


I haven't read LN but I got spoiled on... what's gonna happen.. I'm pretty excited to see that.

I put my absolute, irrevocable, genuine, unconditional, humble, complete, sacred trust in you! You are truly slothful!

tbh tho, Betelgeuse is seriously my favorite character in a long time.


this ^ , honestly i hope they don't skip that ,i mean , since i read the spoilers , i have been waiting all these episode for this boy to appear , if they skip that , f u white fox
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A surprising save spot, but I expected what happened.
Sep 11, 2016 2:13 PM

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What is this Ordeal they talked about in this episode? I didn't get it


They literally explained it this episode, they want to test emilia if she is worthy to become the witches vessel and if she is they let satella posses her, although if she isnt it also doesnt matter since the witch is going to be reborn soon anyway.


Kinda of in a rash at the moment but quick clafication here, Satella isn't dead. She was sealed.

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That old man took him 10 seconds to kill Betel , why this is taking more time with Juli , I mean he's not as good as whilhim but still


It's also because Betelgeuse wasn't suprised attack this time around.
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Can't wait to see the shitstorm and salt next week.
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AmejiHunter said:
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My brain trembles in excitement!


I haven't read LN but I got spoiled on... what's gonna happen.. I'm pretty excited to see that.

I put my absolute, irrevocable, genuine, unconditional, humble, complete, sacred trust in you! You are truly slothful!

tbh tho, Betelgeuse is seriously my favorite character in a long time.

I love him as a character and his background story is pretty sad, so he basically carries arc 3. Especially the interactions with Subaru are so damn hilarious.
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Can't wait to see the shitstorm and salt next week.


My body is so ready for it ༼ つ ͡° ͜ʖ ͡° ༽つ MAL will break
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Granted the episode was lacking in animation I still enjoyed every minute of it. We got more Emilia which is always good, and I really enjoyed Subaru in that Cat Ear Cloak. I forgot all about that.

The Finale next week tho!
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Sometimes791 said:
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I haven't read LN but I got spoiled on... what's gonna happen.. I'm pretty excited to see that.

I put my absolute, irrevocable, genuine, unconditional, humble, complete, sacred trust in you! You are truly slothful!

tbh tho, Betelgeuse is seriously my favorite character in a long time.

I love him as a character and his background story is pretty sad, so he basically carries arc 3. Especially the interactions with Subaru are so damn hilarious.


I have only seen one or two lines of his backstory on the wikia, care to spoiler tag it for me?
Sep 11, 2016 2:27 PM

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I'm a bit disappointed that he really was killed & respawned instead of being saved in some weird way but once you get over that the episode was awesome.
Only 1 episode left :///


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So little happened that the episode felt like it was over in 3 minutes. Was too much of a contrast from the previous episode. Sure, in the mansion arc when Subaru is suddenly really cheery, he's usually acting and there's an underlying sense of uneasiness from before. I say this is easily the worst episode of the series and probably would've been fine in any other anime. The sweet Emilia moment with the kids was a breather, but the rest of the episode was just... I can find it in another anime really.

I still think Patarache is amazing~ <3

This couldn't be avoided but the abrupt change from the end of the last ending really was incredibly jarring. I now understand why that scene was put in the very last part of last episode, that was a good choice. I did actually think last week that the aftermath of Subaru's death in that situation would be something very interesting to watch, but I'll just have to assume that the universe implodes into itself when Subaru disappears lol.

Oh well, ON TO THE FINAL EPISODE!!! Hopefully it won't disappoint, but considering it's the final episode, it's probably just gonna be an arc wrap up episode... so if they can make it amazing, I'll be impressed xD
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So little happened that the episode felt like it was over in 3 minutes. Was too much of a contrast from the previous episode. Sure, in the mansion arc when Subaru is suddenly really cheery, he's usually acting and there's an underlying sense of uneasiness from before. I say this is easily the worst episode of the series and probably would've been fine in any other anime. The sweet Emilia moment with the kids was a breather, but the rest of the episode was just... I can find it in another anime really.

I still think Patarache is amazing~ <3

This couldn't be avoided but the abrupt change from the end of the last ending really was incredibly jarring. I now understand why that scene was put in the very last part of last episode, that was a good choice. I did actually think last week that the aftermath of Subaru's death in that situation would be something very interesting to watch, but I'll just have to assume that the universe implodes into itself when Subaru disappears lol.

Oh well, ON TO THE FINAL EPISODE!!! Hopefully it won't disappoint, but considering it's the final episode, it's probably just gonna be an arc wrap up episode... so if they can make it amazing, I'll be impressed xD



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Subaru trolling Betelgeuse is always funny to me and I enjoyed it here. Also, nice to see that Subaru and Julius are still getting well even after the reset. I can't wait for the final episode next week.
Also, I think the art/animation didn't look bad. I personally didn't notice anything out of ordinary unlike with Orange or 91 Days.
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Betelgeuse is one of my favourite villains ever. That flying he done B-). I love how Subaru basically messes with him when he meets him these past few eps.

It seemed weird seeing things go to plan this well but gotta give Subaru credit with the new plans. Can't wait for next week! Though I'm upset its the last... Cool Julius too. Really love the idea of the cloak with the spell on it.
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_Hans_ said:
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Can't wait to see the shitstorm and salt next week.


My body is so ready for it ༼ つ ͡° ͜ʖ ͡° ༽つ MAL will break




This will be a glorious day.
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Sometimes791 said:
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My body is so ready for it ༼ つ ͡° ͜ʖ ͡° ༽つ MAL will break




This will be a glorious day.


The only sad thing is
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Good episode. Just one problem that I remember, if subaru and knight share senses and knight only sees what subaru sees, why the hell did subaru close his eyes mid fight for like 5 seconds?
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Could someone spoil me on the missing Satella scene? Obviously, use the spoilers tag.

I can't get enough of Betelgeuse. He's definitely the ultimate waifu out there, I don't care what others say.



Its not in this episode

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Immahnoob said:
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Yeah that part was so unrealistic it became cringy AF. Why didn't more people notice that? lmao
Because it was explained right after that the coat has a spell on it. I wrote that before I watched the entire episode and left it as is because it's still lolworthy.

I would have paid for a scene in which Emilia is like "Subaru, I know it's you.".


Emilia style of cloak isn't even unique, the Iron Fang members (including the humans) have s similar design even up to the ear shapes on the back of the hood. Only the color is different so it a be bit of logic for Emilia to bypass the magic through that. Otherwise you can buy that commonly.
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i think we all got from this episode that Emilia is precious and must be protected, that is all.
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Because it was explained right after that the coat has a spell on it. I wrote that before I watched the entire episode and left it as is because it's still lolworthy.

I would have paid for a scene in which Emilia is like "Subaru, I know it's you.".


Emilia style of cloak isn't even unique, the Iron Fang members (including the humans) also have ear shapes on the back of the hood. Only the color is different so it a be bit of logic for Emilia to bypass the magic through that.
Dude, I doubt it's hard to understand that someone is wearing your coat, be it similar to other coats or not. They did explain it was the magic, not that she's so dumb not to notice that it's her cloak.

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i think we all got from this episode that Emilia is precious and must be protected, that is all.
That's episode 1 material. Without Subaru she'd be dead from ep 1 and no resets.




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