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Thug_Gou said: @GD1551 : ok Daw11 said: Just how big is Japan in this anime? Assuming that the train can barely outran the kabane and it travel at best at 50km/h, it shouldn't take them more than a day to travel from one side to the other of japan. In the anime it seems that it takes them days to reach another town. LOL That makes more sense and you even got a calculation. *thumbs up* @StevePen387 This was the kind of proof (sort of) that I was looking for in one of your points. Not hating on your NOtp, but that's just a small age gap. LOL You should check out Erased xD 10-11 years Besides, when she turns 18, Ikoma is still 23. As adults, it's not that big of a problem. Yeah, that's what I meant, in a very weird construction of sentences. wat? HyperL said: To the ones that have a problem with the train "pushing" scene I think everyone is over reacting to the pushing scene. YES, pushing does not help in the slightest, BUT the act of pushing was what we could call an "human effort". People do tend to do extra unecessary stuff when trying to acomplish something they don't know exactly how to, specially in critical situations. That was a first for most people in the train and they were all just following Ayame's orders to beggin with, so they pushed not knowing if it makes a difference or not, just hoping whatever they did would work. Also keep in mind that science/physics is not something that people keep in mind too often, again, specially in critical situations. At last, just think, if we can manage to talk about physics here, don't you think the writters of the show also do? They're not stupid, they know pushing the train doesn't change a thing, which reinforces my statements, the train people pushed the train as a hopeful "human effort", and the writters made them do it to show that they were all doing their best to save themselves. Now i hope that people read this message. And please feel free to rebut it if you still think there's something wrong with the scene in question or my statements. yeah.... I'm just gonna give this a +1 :D superzombie23 said: Can you explain how they managed to find where they were buried in the mine and have enough time to get a crane to lift the debris while the Black Smoke is lurking around? I thought the Black Smoke would have gotten in the way while they use the crane to lift the debris. They kind of cut around that part so they don't really show how they evaded the Black Smoke to get to the crane. That time the Black smoke was still trying to regenerate itself. It got dispersed when they closed the giant metal gate. That was long......... X_X I am just now seeing this- yea this is true and I guess they did have to make changes for the anime of course, just didn't realize it would factor into small distances as well! And btw to respond to the other post- I am just now reading your longer post on here and this one, so I apologize for making it seem like I wasn't listening, I just am not that attuned to this forum system as much as others might be- thanks for your explanations and I guess they are small concerns of mine well not even concerns just curious differences. |
kamisama751 said: Not inherently bad but that doesn't mean they can't be used wrong. Good that it was done properly here. Because it's natural in this extreme situation to try to lean on right side as much as they can so obviously they needed to glue to walls. kamisama751 said: The moment whenthey start pushing... It already pleased me by giving me this entertaining discussion. Because you love to needlessly nitpick. |
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BLmatsu said: Animayham said: I'd take your comment a lot more seriously if it wasn't "badly" written with typos. (Did you even try?) It's not necessarily bad writing to come up with more challenging "antagonists" for the main characters to face. If you think about it, it'd be hard to keep the viewers' interest in the show if the only enemies the MCs faced were mindless, human-sized, slow, unevolving kabanes. This is an action, shounen anime anyway. You should expect this much.Honestly this felt like a jump the shark episode for me. The whole cabana colony is just a joke on many levels and does not make sense. Seems like bad writing for the sake of "keeping up the intensity" for each installment. KAbane continue to act or exhibit inconsistency in their behaviors due to whatever the writer deems needed for the plot. Could careless about how typos shape your opinion. Enemies must evolve in some form to keep the show interesting, Duh. But this whole Kabane colony thing is just weak IMO. It feels contrived with not a lot of great reasoning for it's existence. It's created for the sake of adding something and only adds to the issue that Kabanes in general are wildly inconsistent with every episode. We have no true understanding of how they should generally act, what they are capable of, and thus a solid expectation. So you are really undermining my point by limiting it to the need for a more challenging antagonist. Generally if you do create new antagonist or obstacles the ground work for their existence has been meticulously formatted previously to allow for a non asspul reason for their creation. IMO this wasn't done at all. A reason may have been provided for how they could form this colony but that does not make it a well written nor good plot development. I mean we have already seen Kabanes be slow mindless zombies at first, to fast paced rabid monstrosities when needed by the story. We have also seen Kabanes who presented as only being capable of hunting for prey before to now having the ability to wield swords and have combat mastery. Now we have them ganging up for a random reason to form a big black monster because the whole "Whats with all these damn Kabanes on the train" is so played out now. I know we will have some other Kabane iteration in the future I just hope it's creation seems natural and sensible and not some concoction just cause. |
bastek66 said: How was it done properly?kamisama751 said: Not inherently bad but that doesn't mean they can't be used wrong. Good that it was done properly here. Because it's natural in this extreme situation to try to lean on right side as much as they can so obviously they needed to glue to walls. FallIntoDespair said: http://myanimelist.net/forum/?topicid=1512510 12 episodes confirmed. Also Ikoma is 17 and Mumei 12, a relationship between them would create some backlash. More likely Ikoma will get Ayame.Yet again another amazing episode! Really loving this series! It seems like there may be a possible romance between ikoma and mumei which would be awesome! But of course this series is action highlighted so I don't expect it to be heavy on any romance! Hope this will be a 24/25 episode season like attack on titan |
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StevePen387 said: I am just now seeing this- yea this is true and I guess they did have to make changes for the anime of course, just didn't realize it would factor into small distances as well! And btw to respond to the other post- I am just now reading your longer post on here and this one, so I apologize for making it seem like I wasn't listening, I just am not that attuned to this forum system as much as others might be- thanks for your explanations and I guess they are small concerns of mine well not even concerns just curious differences. It's cool. Thanks for reading them again then. xD For anyone thinking that the writers are really dumb because of that combined mass of Kabanes (The Black Smoke) and how they can function if they just got "glued" together , here's a Real Life and Scientific example :P and no, not a Zombie Example. lol Torrible said: Example in real life: The Portuguese man-of-war is a siphonophore, an animal made up of a colony of organisms working together. It is not a single multicellular organism, but a colonial organism made up of specialized minute individual organisms called zooids. These zooids are attached to one another and physiologically integrated to the extent that they cannot survive independently and function as if they were an individual organism. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Portuguese_man_o%27_war Not that far-fetched to imagine that this can happen to the Kabane, who already have been co-opted by a virus and are already behaving in a herd-like manner. The virus could have evolved to co-opt multiple bodies by means of physical integration rather than just herding. Since virus already modifies the human body (heart cage), further biological (and anatomical) modification to pave the way for integration is not out of the question. On a side note, this is also similar to the evolution of multi-cellular organisms. The first multi-cellular organisms came about when single cell bacteria evolved traits that entrenched them into group behavior, paving the way for multi-cellular life. http://www.astrobio.net/news-exclusive/multicellular-life-evolve/ Also, if you guys haven't noticed the blue heart-kabane-person is the one controlling them and connecting them together. ~~~~~~ zal said: Also Ikoma is 17 and Mumei 12, a relationship between them would create some backlash. More likely Ikoma will get Ayame. Then who will Kurusu end up with? :( :( :( |
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Thug_Gou said: Kurusu is just her bodyguard, support characters don't deserve the main girl or you get the shippers mad like with Erased.StevePen387 said: I am just now seeing this- yea this is true and I guess they did have to make changes for the anime of course, just didn't realize it would factor into small distances as well! And btw to respond to the other post- I am just now reading your longer post on here and this one, so I apologize for making it seem like I wasn't listening, I just am not that attuned to this forum system as much as others might be- thanks for your explanations and I guess they are small concerns of mine well not even concerns just curious differences. It's cool. Thanks for reading them again then. xD For anyone thinking that the writers are really dumb because of that combined mass of Kabanes (The Black Smoke) and how they can function if they just got "glued" together , here's a Real Life and Scientific example :P and no, not a Zombie Example. lol Torrible said: Example in real life: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Portuguese_man_o%27_war Not that far-fetched to imagine that this can happen to the Kabane, who already have been co-opted by a virus and are already behaving in a herd-like manner. The virus could have evolved to co-opt multiple bodies by means of physical integration rather than just herding. Since virus already modifies the human body (heart cage), further biological (and anatomical) modification to pave the way for integration is not out of the question. On a side note, this is also similar to the evolution of multi-cellular organisms. The first multi-cellular organisms came about when single cell bacteria evolved traits that entrenched them into group behavior, paving the way for multi-cellular life. http://www.astrobio.net/news-exclusive/multicellular-life-evolve/ Also, if you guys haven't noticed the blue heart-kabane-person is the one controlling them and connecting them together. ~~~~~~ zal said: Also Ikoma is 17 and Mumei 12, a relationship between them would create some backlash. More likely Ikoma will get Ayame. Then who will Kurusu end up with? :( :( :( I don't think you want to bring the discussion to a scientific level. It's just a super natural monster and its inspiration was't from that creature at all. If you want to continue I can dismantle this theory too. |
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Well, scene was tense and people like it. Just because some nitpickers complain is meaningless. zal said: kamisama751 said: She told them to stand on one side but they "push" instead. Because it's natural in this extreme situation to try to lean on right side as much as they can so obviously they needed to glue to walls. He is mentioning the fact that they push the train from inside which is laughable not the fact that they moved on the side of the train which kinda makes sense. Who cares if it's laughable or not? Answer: Nitpickers. Anyone would be glued to the wall if something like thathappened to them. |
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bastek66 said: The issue is not that they were glued but that they actually tried to push.zal said: How was it done properly? Well, scene was tense and people like it. Just because some nitpickers complain is meaningless. zal said: He is mentioning the fact that they push the train from inside which is laughable not the fact that they moved on the side of the train which kinda makes sense. Who cares if it's laughable or not? Answer: Nitpickers. Anyone would be glued to the wall if something like thathappened to them. "Scene was tense and people like it" is not that convincing to say that it was done properly. Calm down a bit, almost everyone thinks that scene was weird but no one said that it was the worst show ever because of that. Can't we have some fun with the dumb scenes? |
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zal said: Thug_Gou said: Kurusu is just her bodyguard, support characters don't deserve the main girl or you get the shippers mad like with Erased.It's cool. Thanks for reading them again then. xD For anyone thinking that the writers are really dumb because of that combined mass of Kabanes (The Black Smoke) and how they can function if they just got "glued" together , here's a Real Life and Scientific example :P and no, not a Zombie Example. lol Also, if you guys haven't noticed the blue heart-kabane-person is the one controlling them and connecting them together. ~~~~~~ Then who will Kurusu end up with? :( :( :( I don't think you want to bring the discussion to a scientific level. It's just a super natural monster and its inspiration was't from that creature at all. If you want to continue I can dismantle this theory too. Have you not seen shoujo anime? The knights get the one they're protecting!!! I thought Mumei was the Main Main grill? Each to their own ship. and if you didn't notice some people do ship them*coughYoutubeAMVscough* You don't need to debunk this. I wasn't saying that the writers got it from this organism, I was just saying that the Black Smoke had similarities with the Portugese Man of War, so it's still technically plausible that it's how the Black Smoke functions... being a creature made up of a colony of organisms(Kabanes) (sort of) working together and all. |
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Thug_Gou said: I don't know much about the shippers community. I am not that much into anime. In the shoujo anime you have in mind the knight is the mc? If yes my point still stands.zal said: Kurusu is just her bodyguard, support characters don't deserve the main girl or you get the shippers mad like with Erased. I don't think you want to bring the discussion to a scientific level. It's just a super natural monster and its inspiration was't from that creature at all. If you want to continue I can dismantle this theory too. Have you not seen shoujo anime? The knights get the one they're protecting!!! Each to their own ship. and if you didn't notice some people do ship them*coughYoutubeAMVscough* You don't need to debunk this. I wasn't saying that the writers got it from this organism, I was just saying that the Black Smoke had similarities with the Portugese Man of War, so it's still technically plausible that it's how the Black Smoke functions... being a creature made up of a colony of organisms(Kabanes sort of) working together and all. Then to keep it simple, the way it move is just not coherent with the colonialism structure, it is impossible. It has no regular bone and muscular structure, it would kinda fall apart. That creature lives in water which it way easier for that kind of creature Another question is how are they connected? Just by nerves wouldn't be enough. |
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zal said: Thug_Gou said: I don't know much about the shippers community. I am not that much into anime. In the shoujo anime you have in mind the knight are the mc? If yes my point still stands.Have you not seen shoujo anime? The knights get the one they're protecting!!! Each to their own ship. and if you didn't notice some people do ship them*coughYoutubeAMVscough* You don't need to debunk this. I wasn't saying that the writers got it from this organism, I was just saying that the Black Smoke had similarities with the Portugese Man of War, so it's still technically plausible that it's how the Black Smoke functions... being a creature made up of a colony of organisms(Kabanes sort of) working together and all. Then to keep it simple, the way it move is just not coherent with the colonialism structure, it is impossible. It has no regular bone and muscular structure, it would kinda fall apart. That creature lives in water which it way easier for that kind of creature Another question is how are they connected? Just by nerves wouldn't be enough. Well technically the knight will be one of the MCs if they're a love rival (in a shoujo manga). -->> Like for example Ikoma x Ayame x Kurusu (but since this isn't a romance anime so ofc Kurusu's not one of the MCs, it's not focused on Romance after all) He could be a love rival (not saying that he alctually is yet) but not the MC and still get the girl.There are two main grills, and the MC can't have a harem in a non-harem anime, so he has to choose (if he does choose anyway.) ┐(´∇｀)┌ Edit---Oh yeah, you also mentioned ERASED. Yeah.... that one's A REALLY GOOD EXAMPLE xD Airi's a supporting character, Hiromi's a supporting character... you catch my drift?--- You may be right on that one, but if you noticed that blue sticky thinggy, that might be enough to hold them together and control them (and by control, it could mean that the Kabane can hold onto each other or bite on each other just to get "glued" together), but not enough that they wouldn't topple down if too much force hits them. |
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Thug_Gou said: Yep, that's why I can't get into fanfiction and shipping, too many conjectures.zal said: I don't know much about the shippers community. I am not that much into anime. In the shoujo anime you have in mind the knight are the mc? If yes my point still stands. Then to keep it simple, the way it move is just not coherent with the colonialism structure, it is impossible. It has no regular bone and muscular structure, it would kinda fall apart. That creature lives in water which it way easier for that kind of creature Another question is how are they connected? Just by nerves wouldn't be enough. Well technically the knight will be one of the MCs if they're a love rival (in a shoujo manga). -->> Like for example Ikoma x Ayame x Kurusu (but since this isn't a romance anime so ofc Kurusu's not one of the MCs, it's not focused on Romance after all) He could be a love rival (not saying that he alctually is yet) but not the MC and still get the girl.There are two main grills, and the MC can't have a harem in a non-harem anime, so he has to choose (if he does choose anyway.) ┐(´∇｀)┌ You may be right on that one, but if you noticed that blue sticky thinggy, that might be enough to hold them together and control them (and by control, it could mean that the Kabane can hold onto each other or bite on each other just to get "glued" together), but not enough that they wouldn't topple down if too much force hits them. From a supernatural point of view yes does work, kinda. But once you go beyond that it falls apart. Even I didn't have too much problems accepting the monster itself, my issue was most about how the writers used it. Make it seem like a super boss and then having him beaten quite cheaply... meh, not bad but just meh. |
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zal said: Yep, that's why I can't get into fanfiction and shipping, too many ifs. From a supernatural point of view yes does work, kinda. But once you go beyond that it falls apart. Even I didn't have too much problems accepting the monster itself, my issue was most about how the writers used it. Make it seem like a super boss and then having him beaten quite cheaply... meh, not bad but just meh. and that's why it's hard to be shipper </3 Well it does ruin the whole SCARY ZOMBIE THING, since now it became....well...THAT. |
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Thug_Gou said: That's the issue with evolving the enemies, at a certain point you look back and find ridiculous how weak the basic enemies were (naruto just to name one). Even I think that comparing it to a titan is a bit forced but it was inevitable.zal said: Yep, that's why I can't get into fanfiction and shipping, too many ifs. From a supernatural point of view yes does work, kinda. But once you go beyond that it falls apart. Even I didn't have too much problems accepting the monster itself, my issue was most about how the writers used it. Make it seem like a super boss and then having him beaten quite cheaply... meh, not bad but just meh. and that's why it's hard to be shipper </3 Well it does ruin the whole SCARY ZOMBIE THING, since now it became....well...THAT. Don't worry he can't see my posts. I have them protected from him so he doesn't annoy me anymore |
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zal said: Thug_Gou said: That's the issue with evolving the enemies, at a certain point you look back and find ridiculous how weak the basic enemies were (naruto just to name one). Even I think that comparing it to a titan is a bit forced but it was inevitable.and that's why it's hard to be shipper </3 Well it does ruin the whole SCARY ZOMBIE THING, since now it became....well...THAT. Don't worry he can't see my posts. I have them protected from him so he doesn't annoy me anymore Pretty much every shounen does that and it's frustrating. I really don't know what they should've done, but they should've at least placed that thing on the last parts...........or EVIL ANIKI IS SO EVIL THAT HE'S THE FINAL BOSS D: |
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Thug_Gou said: It would be hilarious if Aniki (transformed into kabane and then become blue) resembled an actual titan in the final battle. Not only a huge creature that moves on four legs but A TITANIC KABANE! The end of the anime community how we know it today.zal said: That's the issue with evolving the enemies, at a certain point you look back and find ridiculous how weak the basic enemies were (naruto just to name one). Even I think that comparing it to a titan is a bit forced but it was inevitable. Don't worry he can't see my posts. I have them protected from him so he doesn't annoy me anymore Pretty much every shounen does that and it's frustrating. I really don't know what they should've done, but they should've at least placed that thing on the last parts...........or EVIL ANIKI IS SO EVIL THAT HE'S THE FINAL BOSS D: |
zalMay 21, 2016 4:47 AM
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zal said: It would be hilarious if Aniki (transformed into kabane and then become blue) resembled an actual titan in the final battle. Not only a huge creature that moves on four legs but A TITANIC KABANE! The end of the anime community how we know it today. M I N D B L O W N  |
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| Man i feel like everyone is missing my opinions on the pushing scene. Is on post #259 and i'm sure it will be of great contribution to this marvelous discussion. And i just know people like @zal and @kamisama751 will love to stomp on it hehehe, i can't wait,........maybe i'm a masochist....... |
HyperLMay 21, 2016 5:13 AM
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HyperL said: Man i feel like everyone is missing my opinions on the pushing scene. Is on post #259 and i'm sure it will be of great contribution to this marvelous discussion. b-bu-but senpai I noticed it. and gave it a +1 xD But srsly though, they're just being Cause only 1 guy seems to be and was the only one who yelled PUSH during that scene. |
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Thug_Gou said: HyperL said: Man i feel like everyone is missing my opinions on the pushing scene. Is on post #259 and i'm sure it will be of great contribution to this marvelous discussion. b-bu-but senpai I noticed it. and gave it a +1 xD But srsly though, they're just being Cause only 1 guy seems to be and was the only one who yelled PUSH during that scene. Honestly it seriously doesn't even matter if they were pushing or not. As long as they were all putting their weight on the other side to balance out hte train they could even have a fucking conga line it would achieve the same thing |
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HyperL said: I ignored it because you are taking that point too seriously for me. I laughed when I saw it because it seemed absurd to me, that's it. I didn't make a big fuss of it, or so I think. You can find 100 reason to make it make sense but won't change my reaction.Man i feel like everyone is missing my opinions on the pushing scene. Is on post #259 and i'm sure it will be of great contribution to this marvelous discussion. And i just know people like @zal and @kamisama751 will love to stomp on it hehehe, i can't wait,........maybe i'm a masochist....... @Thug_Gou that one that yelled wasn't the only one to push. Those that pushed the beds were fine though. |
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zal said: HyperL said: I ignored it because you are taking that point too seriously for me. I laughed when I saw it because it seemed absurd to me, that's it. I didn't make a big fuss of it, or so I think. You can find 100 reason to make it make sense but won't change my reaction.Man i feel like everyone is missing my opinions on the pushing scene. Is on post #259 and i'm sure it will be of great contribution to this marvelous discussion. And i just know people like @zal and @kamisama751 will love to stomp on it hehehe, i can't wait,........maybe i'm a masochist....... @Thug_Gou that one that yelled wasn't the only one to push. Those that pushed the beds were fine though. ok, but aside from the bed-pushin-guys, the others were really just leaning on the wall. ``` it's sad that 03 can't see the prev posts, now he thinks I'm also antagonizing the show. LOLOLOLOL |
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zal said: HyperL said: I ignored it because you are taking that point too seriously for me. I laughed when I saw it because it seemed absurd to me, that's it. I didn't make a big fuss of it, or so I think. You can find 100 reason to make it make sense but won't change my reaction.Man i feel like everyone is missing my opinions on the pushing scene. Is on post #259 and i'm sure it will be of great contribution to this marvelous discussion. And i just know people like @zal and @kamisama751 will love to stomp on it hehehe, i can't wait,........maybe i'm a masochist....... @Thug_Gou that one that yelled wasn't the only one to push. Those that pushed the beds were fine though. Oh, so you just find it funny that the train people were stupid and didn't know physics, i get ya, but i feel like theres many people here that are seriously picking this as a proof of stupid writing and are missing the true purpose of the scene. At least you didn't think the writers were stupid......right? Also @Thug_Gou don't worry, i did noticed ya. |
HyperLMay 21, 2016 5:57 AM
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Thug_Gou said: Welcome to the dark side :Dzal said: I ignored it because you are taking that point too seriously for me. I laughed when I saw it because it seemed absurd to me, that's it. I didn't make a big fuss of it, or so I think. You can find 100 reason to make it make sense but won't change my reaction. @Thug_Gou that one that yelled wasn't the only one to push. Those that pushed the beds were fine though. ok, but aside from the bed-pushin-guys, the others were really just leaning on the wall. ``` it's sad that 03 can't see the prev posts, now he thinks I'm also antagonizing the show. LOLOLOLOL Is him the only one pushing? In the last image only the 2 in the back HyperL said: They could have avoided it but this simple event didn't affect my opinion of them, not much at least. Also I don't think I can judge if a writer is stupid or not just for how he writes in an anime. The whole thing was to give hype and suspense to the scene which it did so they kinda did their job, even if I find it laughable. Maybe it is the drector's fault.zal said: I ignored it because you are taking that point too seriously for me. I laughed when I saw it because it seemed absurd to me, that's it. I didn't make a big fuss of it, or so I think. You can find 100 reason to make it make sense but won't change my reaction. @Thug_Gou that one that yelled wasn't the only one to push. Those that pushed the beds were fine though. Oh, so you just find it funny that the train people were stupid and didn't know physics, i get ya, but i feel like theres many people here that are seriously picking this as a proof of stupid writing and are missing the true purpose of the scene. At least you didn't think the writers were stupid......right? Also @Thug_Gou don't worry, i did noticed ya. |
zalMay 21, 2016 6:12 AM
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| A little too self-indulgent and forced into making people appear charismatic characters, then the question of the gun, it seems that these are found on the street, a little surreal, but the fault impute to the narrative that latita of certain events. I was expecting something more from this episode, I'm disappointed. Always go to nitpick. XD Only pure fanservice, there was no need to show that Yukina was undressing just to pull a lever. |
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zal said: Welcome to the dark side :D Is him the only one pushing? In the last image only the 2 in the back wow, you got some proof there. xD But most of the people who were "pushing" were actually pushing the bed *points at Ikoma* *points at children* same steel bars. Although the guy that did yell push was just pushing the wall. I could say they were so "passionate" and don't know the laws of physics cause it's FEUDAL JAPAN or maybe this sourceless argument: 1.) I just realized that pushing doesn't necessarily mean that the weight of the foot (that causes friction or the "reaction" or wtv) goes to the opposite direction. half or probably more of that force is actually directed at the ground (due to gravity, the person's weight and the motion). So maybe pushing actually helps slighly, in tilting that thing down. 2. ) Also running towards the wall and hitting it generates more force to the opposite side causing to it lean back. Cause you know physics and all that velocity and speed shit.. yeah idk... hahahaha I'm not any expert on Physics but here's an ugly doodle on paint that I made. (cause it's hard to explain hahahaha) Also, I meant that he can't see you and the other guy's posts, so when I do agree with your points, he thinks I'm antagonizing it. WHAT?! I gave this thing a 10/10 xD xD xD xD xD how can he even? ~~~ terrablu2003 said: Only pure fanservice, there was no need to show that Yukina was undressing just to pull a lever. That's a new type of fanservice though *wink wonk* instead of bewbs we see muscles.  |
Thug_GouMay 21, 2016 8:15 AM
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StevePen387 said: The question is, do humans have enough iron in their body to achieve that? In the blood there's around 5/6 grams but if used I assume the Kabane would die.zal said: I ignored it because you are taking that point too seriously for me. I laughed when I saw it because it seemed absurd to me, that's it. I didn't make a big fuss of it, or so I think. You can find 100 reason to make it make sense but won't change my reaction. @Thug_Gou that one that yelled wasn't the only one to push. Those that pushed the beds were fine though. To Zal and Thug- I think a scientifically viable theory other than supernatural "stickiness" is the iron in the bodies of the kabane- we know the heart is iron and I am guessing the glowing veins/lines all over the bodies are also some metal material. Electromagnetic forces emanating from the main heart (blue kabane) could also control on a magnetic level from one kabane to the next, creating a sort of octopus like structure- this would not need bones or strong muscles, just a whole lot of connecting tissue that can also act as muscle tissue like an octopus. This also explains why the cannon is able to blow off a chunk of the dead kabane at a time- by breaking the magnetic chain from a certain point of connection, and the kabane from that point to the outermost kabane then lose charge and fall off from the main body, and with no charge they also "unstick" from each other body as well. (Because maybe I am wrong and misheard- but isn't the shadow monster made of dead kabane that it consumes? Or maybe it doesn't kill and just absorbs them alive? I am guessing the people it eats is for blood and nutrition, not to be added as new "muscle tissue") Let me know if that makes any sense lol. |
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StevePen387 said: zal said: I ignored it because you are taking that point too seriously for me. I laughed when I saw it because it seemed absurd to me, that's it. I didn't make a big fuss of it, or so I think. You can find 100 reason to make it make sense but won't change my reaction. @Thug_Gou that one that yelled wasn't the only one to push. Those that pushed the beds were fine though. To Zal and Thug- I think a scientifically viable theory other than supernatural "stickiness" is the iron in the bodies of the kabane- we know the heart is iron and I am guessing the glowing veins/lines all over the bodies are also some metal material. Electromagnetic forces emanating from the main heart (blue kabane) could also control on a magnetic level from one kabane to the next, creating a sort of octopus like structure- this would not need bones or strong muscles, just a whole lot of connecting tissue that can also act as muscle tissue like an octopus. This also explains why the cannon is able to blow off a chunk of the dead kabane at a time- by breaking the magnetic chain from a certain point of connection, and the kabane from that point to the outermost kabane then lose charge and fall off from the main body, and with no charge they also "unstick" from each other body as well. (Because maybe I am wrong and misheard- but isn't the shadow monster made of dead kabane that it consumes? Or maybe it doesn't kill and just absorbs them alive? I am guessing the people it eats is for blood and nutrition, not to be added as new "muscle tissue") Let me know if that makes any sense lol. Wow, we're really going full blown Nerd mode here. xD *Calls Bakugo* anyway They did mention that the shield for the Kabane's heart was made of metal, so maybe those blue sticky thinggy were also partly metal... and then we use that Electromagnetic explanation of yours to stick them together. mmmhmmm seems good to me xD I think the Black Smoke wasn't literally eating them, more like gathering more parts so that he can get bigger or something. Cause when they dispersed, I'm pretty sure no one was being eaten while it regenerated. |
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Nope, still funny, hahahahahahahahaha. That scene, even tho I critiqued it, but there are no words to describe it for how stupidly laughable is, the effect is enhanced by the guy that yells "Everyone, push!". xD |
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StevePen387 said: zellami said: @StevePen387 I didn't get what had you worried, but ... what I see from the map is basically this - the purple lines signify the railroad for steam-trains. The red/orange lines - the maintenance crane and the connections b/w other construction facilities. The green lines depict the spiral of the central ore mostly; aside the main ore in the center, there are two extensions to the respective entrances/exits. The entrances/exits are only two. There's one rail-crossing, which would either allow a train to move forward (or backward) directly between the entrances/exits after the quarantine zones, and a big loop (on the highest walls), where a train has to make a complete circle of the station and leave it only by the entrance where Kotetsujo came from. Apparently, the direction of the gates is west-east. As far as the map is concerned, I can assure you it didn't change throughout the last two episodes - they showed in from various points. The jib of the crane lies on the tracks that could lead to the other side of the station. This is why they were discussing whether to go back in episode 5, because it was the only possible maneuver, in case the jib couldn't be removed. Yes this is not the entirety of what I meant however- I did indeed notice the maps were the same- which is why the crossing in the beginning of Ep. 6 seems like an impossible crossing. They are running back to the initial gatehouse(quarantine zone) from the area in the track where they stopped because the rubble was still in the way- from this point there should only be one crossing from what I can see on the way back to the quarantine zone and based on the overhead shots- and that crossing in about the direction 180 degrees opposite of where the crane is facing, on the map and in reality. However, that crossing seems to be oriented in the opposite direction of the one shown in the beginning escape scene in Ep. 6, making it only assesible when coming from initial gatehouse they entered, on the way to where the rubble is(The route to the other gatehouse). The way it is shown in Ep. 6 is showing a crossing where they can go left and right and they choose right, I am assuming right to continue taking the loop to the first gatehouse when they are reversing at full speed to escape the shadow monster. It is really not a big deal just something I noticed based on the map I saw in previous ep. and this one- I couldn't find that same crossing in the overhead shots. The crossing appears to be possible if we look at a the purple lines on the map showing a crossing right near the first gatehouse- but that does not exist in all the other scenes and overhead shots, and only the crossing I was speaking of, at 3 o clock if the crane is facing at about 9 o clock if we were to call the second gate or escape gatehouse they need to get to as 12 o clock. The other issue main issue was how ridiculously long they seemed to take to get from where the rubble had been to the gatehouse they needed to escape to in the end of the episode- based on track width, train height vs. characters etc., and track width vs distance needed to travel, it is quite obvious that action scene realistically would only last 15-25 seconds max at the speeds they were traveling. Honestly no worries if nobody noticed this, just something weird I noticed and curious if others did as well. You are actually right - the crane should have faced them in the beginning of episode 5 and not to point on the opposite direction. It creates the impression they made the entrance from the same point they exited in episode 6. After this shot, the crane actually points in the right the direction, but not before they entered the station. If you look at the map, the crossing are actually two - according the map and according episode 5. There's one shot however that suggests the crossing for the small loop is way below, while they should be approximately at the same level. When the crossings are shown closely, we can see them clearly. but some of the perspectives could be misleading indeed. Honestly, I don't how much time it should take for a steam train to escape backwards, but it's acceptable to assume they barely made it, as shown in the anime. In the previous episode, they took the big loop at the first crossing, circled the station on the highest wall, passed over the (their) exit gate (no crossings there) and stopped on the other side, next to the boiler room and the crane paths. Ikoma, the bushi, and Mumei got off. Then the train continued on the wall following the loop (the big and the small loops are side by side at this point, but not connected). If Ikoma and the others had succeeded in moving the watchtower, the train would have been in position for a quick escape after they board. However, they were forced to move backwards because of the Black Smoke and the tower still on the rails, so Yukina drove back the train trough the high-wall crossing and behind the gate. From there, when the tower was eventually moved, it was almost a straight flight to the exit. Anyway, the crossings are two (not one) and better seen in episode 6. I think this a better picture for the second crossing: |
Thug_Gou said: StevePen387 said: To Zal and Thug- I think a scientifically viable theory other than supernatural "stickiness" is the iron in the bodies of the kabane- we know the heart is iron and I am guessing the glowing veins/lines all over the bodies are also some metal material. Electromagnetic forces emanating from the main heart (blue kabane) could also control on a magnetic level from one kabane to the next, creating a sort of octopus like structure- this would not need bones or strong muscles, just a whole lot of connecting tissue that can also act as muscle tissue like an octopus. This also explains why the cannon is able to blow off a chunk of the dead kabane at a time- by breaking the magnetic chain from a certain point of connection, and the kabane from that point to the outermost kabane then lose charge and fall off from the main body, and with no charge they also "unstick" from each other body as well. (Because maybe I am wrong and misheard- but isn't the shadow monster made of dead kabane that it consumes? Or maybe it doesn't kill and just absorbs them alive? I am guessing the people it eats is for blood and nutrition, not to be added as new "muscle tissue") Let me know if that makes any sense lol. Wow, we're really going full blown Nerd mode here. xD *Calls Bakugo* anyway They did mention that the shield for the Kabane's heart was made of metal, so maybe those blue sticky thinggy were also partly metal... and then we use that Electromagnetic explanation of yours to stick them together. mmmhmmm seems good to me xD I think the Black Smoke wasn't literally eating them, more like gathering more parts so that he can get bigger or something. Cause when they dispersed, I'm pretty sure no one was being eaten while it regenerated. Either way, no matter what glues the kabane together, it doesn't explain why it is able to move and act like one single being. Not that this should be questioned since the monster is a work of fiction and is allowed to break a few concepts of reality for the sake of its own existance. |
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HyperL said: Thug_Gou said: Wow, we're really going full blown Nerd mode here. xD *Calls Bakugo* anyway They did mention that the shield for the Kabane's heart was made of metal, so maybe those blue sticky thinggy were also partly metal... and then we use that Electromagnetic explanation of yours to stick them together. mmmhmmm seems good to me xD I think the Black Smoke wasn't literally eating them, more like gathering more parts so that he can get bigger or something. Cause when they dispersed, I'm pretty sure no one was being eaten while it regenerated. Either way, no matter what glues the kabane together, it doesn't explain why it is able to move and act like one single being. Not that this should be questioned since the monster is a work of fiction and is allowed to break a few concepts of reality for the sake of its own existance. ikr! |
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| The first half was quite boring sadly, the clichee back story did not help either. Can we not get something a bit more original? The second half however, was better, the action sequence was well done, the suspense was missing even though they tried to make it seem like it was an actual threat, since it was clear that everything will work well in the end. I really wish the'll get rid of that train in the next episode and move to a more interesting setting. |
Zalmox1s said: The first half was quite boring sadly, the clichee back story did not help either. Can we not get something a bit more original? The second half however, was better, the action sequence was well done, the suspense was missing even though they tried to make it seem like it was an actual threat, since it was clear that everything will work well in the end. I really wish the'll get rid of that train in the next episode and move to a more interesting setting. You are aware the show is called Kabaneri of the IRON FORTRESS, right? And the Iron Fortress IS the train. |
| Good episode, Hope there were no people in the last car tho. |
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| Am i the only one that really likes the 2 random bushi that always go in the missions? I mean like when they were going to the crane it was Ikoma, Kibito and the other two. They're always there yet never have any development. Not only that but I feel they have some respect for the kabaneri. Well Ikoma at least, they don't talk smack about him! I hope we at least learn their names later |
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Madara22 said: Good episode, Hope there were no people in the last car tho. There weren't. That was the one where Ikoma and Mumei were detained at the start |
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Darklight0303 said: Zalmox1s said: The first half was quite boring sadly, the clichee back story did not help either. Can we not get something a bit more original? The second half however, was better, the action sequence was well done, the suspense was missing even though they tried to make it seem like it was an actual threat, since it was clear that everything will work well in the end. I really wish the'll get rid of that train in the next episode and move to a more interesting setting. You are aware the show is called Kabaneri of the IRON FORTRESS, right? And the Iron Fortress IS the train. That does not mean that all the has to take place on that damned train tho. |
Zalmox1s said: Darklight0303 said: You are aware the show is called Kabaneri of the IRON FORTRESS, right? And the Iron Fortress IS the train. That does not mean that all the has to take place on that damned train tho. No but it means the train will continue to play a big part of it. |
GD1551 said: The train also fleshes out the world since they constantly have to move. Next episode seems to be a cooldown one. I wonder how that safe haven will get wrecked forcing the gang to leave again |
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